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    2. S9359338
    3. Yes. that was Charles Ray Severs and he and his son live on Tindell Lane in Knoxville. He has not traced his family back enough to connect to any of the lines I have listed on Severs -L. I have not contacted him recently. I believe he is only l generation away from a connection. There is another Severs family in Knoxville that may or may not be connected. Jason Severs is a grandson of James Earl Severs who died recently at about age 85. I do not have a current email of Charles Ray Severs but possibly Jason (listed above) could help. You might try Rsevers1@msn.com as that address may still be active. I have emails of persons interested in various Severs groups, but not all of them. Possibly a "roll call" would be a great thing for everyone interested in Severs to outline their groups back to the oldest, and list associated names and email addresses of interested parties.. Charles Severs In a message dated 02/25/08 22:59:54 Eastern Standard Time, pmp@icsofidaho.net writes: Hi Charles ! Tell me if you remember. It seems to me there was a Severs ( SP.) living in Knoxville and Don Carden & I went to visit their son but he was out of town. The father who took us to his son's home was retired from the Knoxville Fire Dept. This was in 1998. Ring a bell ? Phyllis

    02/26/2008 04:33:39
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] Wm Severs born 1752? Hessian Deserter DOB Search
    2. Phyllis
    3. Hi Charles ! Tell me if you remember. It seems to me there was a Severs ( SP.) living in Knoxville and Don Carden & I went to visit their son but he was out of town. The father who took us to his son's home was retired from the Knoxville Fire Dept. This was in 1998. Ring a bell ? Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Evans" <rpevans@att.net> To: <tnanders@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [TNANDERS] Wm Severs born 1752? Hessian Deserter DOB Search > Hi Charles, > > I will check with Mary at the PGHS meeting on Thursday to see if she > continued her research on this family. > > Thanks, > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of S9359338 > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:00 AM > To: tnanders@rootsweb.com; monoda@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNANDERS] Wm Severs born 1752? Hessian Deserter DOB Search > > Some years ago Mary Harris was doing research on a family who came to > Anderson Co that had 6 daughters and 6 Sons in law. Three of the Sons in Law > were named Seiber, Seeber, Seeber, or similar to Severs and she thought > William Severs born l752 and married to Catherine Peck was one of the sons > in law. I am sure that was not the case but wonder if she ever completed > that research. > I have traced a family legend of a Hessian Soldier and William l752 seems to > be the only candidate to a Johannes Wilhelm Siebert born l751 who deserted > the von Wissenbach troops in July of l782 who were in Savanna GA. The next > record of William Severs was in Montgomery Co VA in l793 when he married > Catherine Peck. In l793 Montgomery County was HUGE and included Kentucky and > , maybe, Tennessee. He was later in Knox Co TN, before Anderson Co was > formed and in Anderson County just after formation. I believe he was in the > part of Anderson Co that was taken from Knox Co. > I have traced the Hessian soldier to a family in Metzebach Germany just > South of Kassel hoping for a direct male but have been unable to trace the > descendency for a dna test. Since I know the exact birth date for J W > Siebert , The birth date for William Severs would be WONDERFUL for > comparison. The Hessian was born before the Calender change of l752 and some > adjustment of the DOB might have occurred .. > > This is a good PUZZLE HELP NEED DOB of William Severs born Ca l752 + > or - 2 years. > Any SUGGESTIONS appreciated. He lived in ANderson Co from its formation to > l848. Surely he had to fill out a form of some sort that is still LYING > AROUND. He lived until l852 but his tombstone says age l00 but no DOB. He > was buried in Nodaway Co Mo > Many THANKS > Charles Severs > > > > In a message dated 02/24/08 18:25:26 Eastern Standard Time, rpevans@att.net > writes: > Like I mentioned yesterday, the "Bicentennial History of Anderson County > 1796-1996" is $45 plus $5 shipping. Book is hardback cover with 496 pages > and over 200 pictures. > > You can send a check to: > > Pellissippi Genealogical and Historical Society > 118 So. Hicks St. > Clinton, TN 37716 > > ... or, can visit Mary Harris at the Anderson County archives to pick up a > copy and save the shipping charges. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/25/2008 02:07:50
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] Wm Severs born 1752? Hessian Deserter DOB Search
    2. Ron Evans
    3. Hi Charles, I will check with Mary at the PGHS meeting on Thursday to see if she continued her research on this family. Thanks, Ron -----Original Message----- From: tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of S9359338 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:00 AM To: tnanders@rootsweb.com; monoda@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNANDERS] Wm Severs born 1752? Hessian Deserter DOB Search Some years ago Mary Harris was doing research on a family who came to Anderson Co that had 6 daughters and 6 Sons in law. Three of the Sons in Law were named Seiber, Seeber, Seeber, or similar to Severs and she thought William Severs born l752 and married to Catherine Peck was one of the sons in law. I am sure that was not the case but wonder if she ever completed that research. I have traced a family legend of a Hessian Soldier and William l752 seems to be the only candidate to a Johannes Wilhelm Siebert born l751 who deserted the von Wissenbach troops in July of l782 who were in Savanna GA. The next record of William Severs was in Montgomery Co VA in l793 when he married Catherine Peck. In l793 Montgomery County was HUGE and included Kentucky and , maybe, Tennessee. He was later in Knox Co TN, before Anderson Co was formed and in Anderson County just after formation. I believe he was in the part of Anderson Co that was taken from Knox Co. I have traced the Hessian soldier to a family in Metzebach Germany just South of Kassel hoping for a direct male but have been unable to trace the descendency for a dna test. Since I know the exact birth date for J W Siebert , The birth date for William Severs would be WONDERFUL for comparison. The Hessian was born before the Calender change of l752 and some adjustment of the DOB might have occurred .. This is a good PUZZLE HELP NEED DOB of William Severs born Ca l752 + or - 2 years. Any SUGGESTIONS appreciated. He lived in ANderson Co from its formation to l848. Surely he had to fill out a form of some sort that is still LYING AROUND. He lived until l852 but his tombstone says age l00 but no DOB. He was buried in Nodaway Co Mo Many THANKS Charles Severs In a message dated 02/24/08 18:25:26 Eastern Standard Time, rpevans@att.net writes: Like I mentioned yesterday, the "Bicentennial History of Anderson County 1796-1996" is $45 plus $5 shipping. Book is hardback cover with 496 pages and over 200 pictures. You can send a check to: Pellissippi Genealogical and Historical Society 118 So. Hicks St. Clinton, TN 37716 ... or, can visit Mary Harris at the Anderson County archives to pick up a copy and save the shipping charges. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/25/2008 12:24:07
    1. [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage and possible Family Names
    2. Carolyn, I enjoyed your message so much and thank you for writing it. I hope others will also. My native heritage is supposed to come through my Dad's side of the family. I believe it was Joyce who said that Native American blood most generally comes through the female line. I'm reading and listening and trying to soak all this up until/if I get an indication of where I want to go with this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Husband was told by his Grandmother that she was 1/2 Cherokee. Her name was Hester SLOVER WHALEY. Her Father was William H. SLOVER and Mother was Parthenia ROBERTS. I haven't figured out who was of Cherokee descent. Hester married Pinkney H. WHALEY whose Father (I believe) was George Bradford Whaley and his Mother might be in question. George Bradford's description on Civil War records possibly might show features of Native American Heritage too. Do I think my Husband has Cherokee in his background? Absolutely!! He has skin color that seems fairly light in the winter but immediately tans deeply when the sun comes out here in Michigan! (Michigan is cloudy most of the winter) His cheek bones also might show the influence of Indian heritage too. Also, remember that my Husband doesn't remember much of his childhood BUT his Grandma Hester took him out to the woods too! He only remembers two things. 1. She taught him to dig Sassafras's Roots. He doesn't remember why (he is a Pepsi person!) 2. (No one try this!!!) But she made him eat poison ivy leaves so he wouldn't be allergic to it!! He swears this is why he isn't allergic to it or poison oak BUT I bet he wasn't allergic to it in the first place!! I am sure there were more things she tried to teach him but he doesn't remember. She was also wonderful about "eating off the land" (he remembers her squirrel soup as awesome! She did her own hunting too most of the time! A Friend of my Husband when hearing this story brought me a squirrel and as soon as he left, I took it out and buried it!! Please don't think I am against home remedies, there is nothing better than Slippery Elm bark tea for sore throats or my asthma! Also bee pollen. Another thing when talking about DNA tests, My Husband's Grandmother was Hester Slover and her Sister was Lula Bell Slover AND my Husband's Mother was Alma Slover , Daughter of Lula Bell Slover Johns, AND my Husband's Father Onas, is Son of Hester Slover Whaley! The are first cousins!! Bettie Bird told me years ago that ONAS is an Native American name of honor. BUT would my Husband's DNA show on his Female side which should be doubled?? I am hoping to hear any other's ideas on how to figure out solutions! Also if we can't figure out Native American DNA, I guess we can't figure out MEGELEON or "BLACK DUTCH" either?? Carolyn Whaley **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duff y/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/25/2008 11:08:39
    1. [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage and possible Family Names
    2. My Husband was told by his Grandmother that she was 1/2 Cherokee. Her name was Hester SLOVER WHALEY. Her Father was William H. SLOVER and Mother was Parthenia ROBERTS. I haven't figured out who was of Cherokee descent. Hester married Pinkney H. WHALEY whose Father (I believe) was George Bradford Whaley and his Mother might be in question. George Bradford's description on Civil War records possibly might show features of Native American Heritage too. Do I think my Husband has Cherokee in his background? Absolutely!! He has skin color that seems fairly light in the winter but immediately tans deeply when the sun comes out here in Michigan! (Michigan is cloudy most of the winter) His cheek bones also might show the influence of Indian heritage too. Also, remember that my Husband doesn't remember much of his childhood BUT his Grandma Hester took him out to the woods too! He only remembers two things. 1. She taught him to dig Sassafras's Roots. He doesn't remember why (he is a Pepsi person!) 2. (No one try this!!!) But she made him eat poison ivy leaves so he wouldn't be allergic to it!! He swears this is why he isn't allergic to it or poison oak BUT I bet he wasn't allergic to it in the first place!! I am sure there were more things she tried to teach him but he doesn't remember. She was also wonderful about "eating off the land" (he remembers her squirrel soup as awesome! She did her own hunting too most of the time! A Friend of my Husband when hearing this story brought me a squirrel and as soon as he left, I took it out and buried it!! Please don't think I am against home remedies, there is nothing better than Slippery Elm bark tea for sore throats or my asthma! Also bee pollen. Another thing when talking about DNA tests, My Husband's Grandmother was Hester Slover and her Sister was Lula Bell Slover AND my Husband's Mother was Alma Slover , Daughter of Lula Bell Slover Johns, AND my Husband's Father Onas, is Son of Hester Slover Whaley! The are first cousins!! Bettie Bird told me years ago that ONAS is an Native American name of honor. BUT would my Husband's DNA show on his Female side which should be doubled?? I am hoping to hear any other's ideas on how to figure out solutions! Also if we can't figure out Native American DNA, I guess we can't figure out MEGELEON or "BLACK DUTCH" either?? Carolyn Whaley **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/25/2008 08:45:16
    1. [TNANDERS] Wm Severs born 1752? Hessian Deserter DOB Search
    2. S9359338
    3. Some years ago Mary Harris was doing research on a family who came to Anderson Co that had 6 daughters and 6 Sons in law. Three of the Sons in Law were named Seiber, Seeber, Seeber, or similar to Severs and she thought William Severs born l752 and married to Catherine Peck was one of the sons in law. I am sure that was not the case but wonder if she ever completed that research. I have traced a family legend of a Hessian Soldier and William l752 seems to be the only candidate to a Johannes Wilhelm Siebert born l751 who deserted the von Wissenbach troops in July of l782 who were in Savanna GA. The next record of William Severs was in Montgomery Co VA in l793 when he married Catherine Peck. In l793 Montgomery County was HUGE and included Kentucky and , maybe, Tennessee. He was later in Knox Co TN, before Anderson Co was formed and in Anderson County just after formation. I believe he was in the part of Anderson Co that was taken from Knox Co. I have traced the Hessian soldier to a family in Metzebach Germany just South of Kassel hoping for a direct male but have been unable to trace the descendency for a dna test. Since I know the exact birth date for J W Siebert , The birth date for William Severs would be WONDERFUL for comparison. The Hessian was born before the Calender change of l752 and some adjustment of the DOB might have occurred .. This is a good PUZZLE HELP NEED DOB of William Severs born Ca l752 + or - 2 years. Any SUGGESTIONS appreciated. He lived in ANderson Co from its formation to l848. Surely he had to fill out a form of some sort that is still LYING AROUND. He lived until l852 but his tombstone says age l00 but no DOB. He was buried in Nodaway Co Mo Many THANKS Charles Severs In a message dated 02/24/08 18:25:26 Eastern Standard Time, rpevans@att.net writes: Like I mentioned yesterday, the "Bicentennial History of Anderson County 1796-1996" is $45 plus $5 shipping. Book is hardback cover with 496 pages and over 200 pictures. You can send a check to: Pellissippi Genealogical and Historical Society 118 So. Hicks St. Clinton, TN 37716 ... or, can visit Mary Harris at the Anderson County archives to pick up a copy and save the shipping charges.

    02/25/2008 03:00:18
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage
    2. In a message dated 2/24/2008 10:58:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, pmp@icsofidaho.net writes: James Wilson Marr. Darsey Lovely 20, DEc. 1838 Levi Wilson marr. 19 Jan. 1839 Eliza Adkins James Wilson b. 1812 d. 1863 son of William Wilson b 1792 NC d June 09, 1884, Anderson County, Tn. and Margaret Unknown, married Dorcus or Dorcas Lovely Levi Wilson b. 1819 d. October 1864 son of Abraham Wilson b. 1770 NC d.1839 in Campbell County, Tn and Sarah Frances McLean b. 1770 NC and died 1855 in Campbell County, Tn married Elzira Adkins. William Wilson b. 1792 NC married Margaret Unknown He was a brother to Levi...can anyone help with who he married? **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/24/2008 05:19:25
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage
    2. Phyllis
    3. Jerry, I'm confused did she know there are 2 Tobis Peters ?Here are some notes. Alfred Cross Marr. Zipporah PETERS 2, May 1840. Duncan Wilson Marr. Sarah LOVE, 16, July 1839 Davidson A.L. Marr. Sarah A. Peters. 18 Jan. 1848 William England, Marr. Mary PETERS 11 Aug.1844 John England, Marr. Jane Peters 23 May May 1839 A.A. Oliver Marr. Emily Peters 19, Jul. 1855 Tobis Peters, marr. Louisa Henderson, 4, Oct. 1836 # 2 Martha Mayes date ? William Peters, Marr. Susannah Yarnell 15, Nov. 1845 H.C. Peters Marr. Perlina Shelton 13, 1848 Vincent Packet marr. Mary Wilson. 21 Sept. 1855 John Scarborough marr. Mary Peters. 24,May 1849 James Wilson Marr. Darsey Lovely 20, DEc. 1838 Levi Wilson marr. 19 Jan. 1839 Eliza Adkins Amos Wilson Marr. Mary Patterson 16, Feb. 1839 Hamelton Wilson Marr. Mary Ann Keys 14, Sept.1848. >From Anderson Co., Marriage book by PAULA GUMMELL COPYIED 1997'S----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Morris" <marilynmorris@charter.net> To: <tnanders@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage > I was sure we had, but did not want to let the opportunity pass. MM > > > On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Jerry Bryan wrote: > > >> I enjoyed reading your information very much!! Are your Peters > >> connected to James and/or John Peters? MM in TN > > > > We have corresponded before, by the way. > > > > The correct answer to your question is "probably but nobody can > > prove it". > > Which is to say that your line is from Tobias Peters Sr. and my > > line is from > > Henry Peters Sr. > > > > Tobias and Henry were probably brothers, but nobody can prove it. > > So I > > research two Peters trees, one for Tobias and one for Henry. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 03:06:19
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] mountain remedies, Noah Harness, Byrd Duncan
    2. Phyllis
    3. I loved reading that story and wish people would tell us poor city raised people more.I remember a so called aunt that read tea leaf's for my Mom & Mom took it as gospel. Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: <JennH13@aol.com> To: <TNANDERS-l@rootsweb.com>; <TNCAMPBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: [TNANDERS] mountain remedies, Noah Harness, Byrd Duncan > I'm actually looking for Ron. Ron are you out there??? =) > > A few weeks ago you posted some info about Noah that I was really interested > in. I was comparing it to what I have on him and noticed that you have 2 > birth dates. One that was in the intro area that said 10-25-1846 in TN. But, the > obit that you listed said 6-15-1848. Do you know which date is correct? > > Also, I got a kick out of seeing Byrd Duncan listed as being a physician!!! > I am assuming this is the same Byrd Duncan that I knew as a little girl. I > would think that there wouldn't have been many up in Laurel Grove. My dad > pastored Laurel Grove Baptist Church for a few years so we were often invited to > stay for dinner so we didn't have to drive back to Clinton. One Sunday we were > invited to the Duncans' for a family get together of some sort. My sister who > is 9 years older than me has a much clearer recollection than I do probably. > I was about 6 or so at the time. I don't remember much about the food or the > games that the kids must have played outside. > > There was a certain type of tree in Sam's front yard and he took some kind of > stick that he got from the woods (my sister says it might have been willow) > and cut it to my height. He measured a place at the tree trunk that stood in > his yard, took a hand drill and drilled a hole in the trunk of it. Then he cut > my hair, stuffed it into that hole and filled it in with the shavings from > the drilling, plugging it. That tree was full of holes that had been plugged. > I remember thinking it was a very weird looking tree. He took the stick that > was cut to my height and placed it under the barn where it was dark and said > when I out grew the stick, I would out grow my bronchitis. My mother swears > that it worked...that I didn't suffer from bronchitis again as a child. > Now...as an adult, I have suffered from it, so I figure that either my hair or stick > has since rotted or maybe they've gotten rid of the barn and thew my stick > away!!! Who knows! > > Also, Byrd would say a Bible verse over warts to take the warts away. My > sister had a doctor's appointment that next week to have the wart cut off which > was going to require stiches. The wart fell off early in the week before going > to the doctor which saved a doctor bill! > > I can remember the family getting together on the front porch playing guitars > and probably banjos (but I can't remember for sure). My sister tells me that > Byrd taught others how to read shape notes. I know that they played and > played and played and that the music and singing was wonderful. They sang a lot > of hymns. > > My sister also remembers that the men ate first, then the women and guests, > and then the children ate last. She said that "Mamaw Duncan" (Sam's wife) was > the very last one to eat because she said she had to get everyone else taken > care of first. > > There was also a log cabin that was still standing and there were some > visitors (not sure if they were family or not) staying in the log cabin. > > This would have been about 1978 or 1979. > > Jennifer Harness Ayers > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du ffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 02:35:32
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage
    2. Marilyn Morris
    3. I was sure we had, but did not want to let the opportunity pass. MM On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Jerry Bryan wrote: >> I enjoyed reading your information very much!! Are your Peters >> connected to James and/or John Peters? MM in TN > > We have corresponded before, by the way. > > The correct answer to your question is "probably but nobody can > prove it". > Which is to say that your line is from Tobias Peters Sr. and my > line is from > Henry Peters Sr. > > Tobias and Henry were probably brothers, but nobody can prove it. > So I > research two Peters trees, one for Tobias and one for Henry. > > Jerry > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 02:26:20
    1. [TNANDERS] mountain remedies, Noah Harness, Byrd Duncan
    2. I'm actually looking for Ron. Ron are you out there??? =) A few weeks ago you posted some info about Noah that I was really interested in. I was comparing it to what I have on him and noticed that you have 2 birth dates. One that was in the intro area that said 10-25-1846 in TN. But, the obit that you listed said 6-15-1848. Do you know which date is correct? Also, I got a kick out of seeing Byrd Duncan listed as being a physician!!! I am assuming this is the same Byrd Duncan that I knew as a little girl. I would think that there wouldn't have been many up in Laurel Grove. My dad pastored Laurel Grove Baptist Church for a few years so we were often invited to stay for dinner so we didn't have to drive back to Clinton. One Sunday we were invited to the Duncans' for a family get together of some sort. My sister who is 9 years older than me has a much clearer recollection than I do probably. I was about 6 or so at the time. I don't remember much about the food or the games that the kids must have played outside. There was a certain type of tree in Sam's front yard and he took some kind of stick that he got from the woods (my sister says it might have been willow) and cut it to my height. He measured a place at the tree trunk that stood in his yard, took a hand drill and drilled a hole in the trunk of it. Then he cut my hair, stuffed it into that hole and filled it in with the shavings from the drilling, plugging it. That tree was full of holes that had been plugged. I remember thinking it was a very weird looking tree. He took the stick that was cut to my height and placed it under the barn where it was dark and said when I out grew the stick, I would out grow my bronchitis. My mother swears that it worked...that I didn't suffer from bronchitis again as a child. Now...as an adult, I have suffered from it, so I figure that either my hair or stick has since rotted or maybe they've gotten rid of the barn and thew my stick away!!! Who knows! Also, Byrd would say a Bible verse over warts to take the warts away. My sister had a doctor's appointment that next week to have the wart cut off which was going to require stiches. The wart fell off early in the week before going to the doctor which saved a doctor bill! I can remember the family getting together on the front porch playing guitars and probably banjos (but I can't remember for sure). My sister tells me that Byrd taught others how to read shape notes. I know that they played and played and played and that the music and singing was wonderful. They sang a lot of hymns. My sister also remembers that the men ate first, then the women and guests, and then the children ate last. She said that "Mamaw Duncan" (Sam's wife) was the very last one to eat because she said she had to get everyone else taken care of first. There was also a log cabin that was still standing and there were some visitors (not sure if they were family or not) staying in the log cabin. This would have been about 1978 or 1979. Jennifer Harness Ayers **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/24/2008 02:21:01
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] History of Anderson Co 1776-1996
    2. Ron Evans
    3. Hi Jennifer, Didn't see a family heading for Harness, but they might be associated with another family. There are a couple of pages for the Frank R. Sharp and Winnie E. Hunley Sharp family. Also a couple of pages for the Stansberry Family. Thanks, Ron -----Original Message----- From: tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JennH13@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:09 PM To: tnanders@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNANDERS] History of Anderson Co 1776-1996 Is there much Harness, Sharp, or Stansberry/Stansbury info in there? Just curious, Jennifer Ayers **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du ffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 12:22:09
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] History of Anderson Co 1776-1996
    2. Is there much Harness, Sharp, or Stansberry/Stansbury info in there? Just curious, Jennifer Ayers **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/24/2008 12:08:59
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] History of Anderson Co 1776-1996
    2. Ron Evans
    3. Hi Charles, I didn't see a section on Severs, but there is a couple of pages on the Seiber Family submitted by Keith Seiber. Unfortunately, the book isn't indexed, but the sections are arranged so you can find things pretty easily. The family sections are arranged alphabetically, so it's easy to locate the major family headings. Like I mentioned yesterday, the "Bicentennial History of Anderson County 1796-1996" is $45 plus $5 shipping. Book is hardback cover with 496 pages and over 200 pictures. You can send a check to: Pellissippi Genealogical and Historical Society 118 So. Hicks St. Clinton, TN 37716 ... or, can visit Mary Harris at the Anderson County archives to pick up a copy and save the shipping charges. Thanks, Ron -----Original Message----- From: tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnanders-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of S9359338 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:18 PM To: tnanders@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNANDERS] History of Anderson Co 1776-1996 Ron: I would appreciate a look up in the index for Severs Family HOw does one get a copy What does it cost How many pages in it and is it well indexed?? Charles Severs S9359338@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 11:23:43
    1. [TNANDERS] (no subject)
    2. _TopoZone - Browse Anderson County, Tennessee Topo Maps and Aerial Photos_ (http://www.topozone.com/states/Tennessee.asp?county=Anderson&feature=Church) This took me back to the days of when my dad was going from church to church preaching. I'm sure I've been to at least 20 of the churches listed here! Just thought I'd share what I found. Jennifer Harness Ayers **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/24/2008 11:10:53
    1. [TNANDERS] Island Home Church
    2. Does anyone know if church services are still held there? Also...has anyone 'mapped' out the cemetery that is in the back of the church? My mother's 2 infant brothers are buried there and I'd like to see if the stones are still there. But, this is hard for me to do, seeing as I live 2 hours away in Chattanooga. Just curious! Jennifer Harness Ayers **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/24/2008 10:55:32
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage
    2. Jerry Bryan
    3. >I enjoyed reading your information very much!! Are your Peters > connected to James and/or John Peters? MM in TN We have corresponded before, by the way. The correct answer to your question is "probably but nobody can prove it". Which is to say that your line is from Tobias Peters Sr. and my line is from Henry Peters Sr. Tobias and Henry were probably brothers, but nobody can prove it. So I research two Peters trees, one for Tobias and one for Henry. Jerry

    02/24/2008 10:38:48
    1. [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage
    2. Jerry, I too enjoyed the account of your family and it's possible Native American affiliation - they all sound really neat. Thanks for taking the time to write and share with us. In my Voiles family, Dr. William learned the Native American ways of doctoring, also - hence the name of Dr. William. I love all the stories though they are most difficult to document. Helen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have any of you been told that you have a Native American ancestor? I have but have not discovered any truth to the story, though I'm sure that it's possible. Are you aware of any Native American ancestry in Anderson Co., TN? Or in the surrounding area? Helen We have a Native American ancestor story in my Peters family, but it's only oral history and it's pretty vague. The best version of the story I have is from my grandfather's sister Ella Mae Peters (married first Bayard Yadon and married second Thomas Clyde (Clyde) Cole). Aunt Ella died in 1987, which unfortunately was before I started doing family history and I never heard the story directly from Aunt Ella. The best living source I have is Aunt Ella's daughter Ada Louise Yadon, and I have heard the story directly from Ada. The story is that as a little girl, Ella was taken out in the woods and taught Indian lore (herbs, spices, that sort of thing) and told Indian stories by her grandmother who had Indian ancestry. Ada's telling of the story elaborates a little more than that, but the key missing fact is that Ada doesn't know if the grandmother in question was Aunt Ella's maternal grandmother or her paternal grandmother. Because Aunt Ella was my grandfather's sister, both of her grandmothers were my gg grandmothers. Aunt Ella's paternal grandmother was Hulda Asberine (Asberine) Cross who married John Henry Peters. Aunt Ella's maternal grandmother was Vesta Clay (Vestie) England who married first William Cole and who married second Chesley J. Scarbrough. My family is all descended through William Cole rather than through Chesley J. Scarbrough. However Vestie is remembered in my family either as Grandma Vestie or as Grandma Scarbrough. Aunt Ella was born in 1902. In the 1900 census, Asberine Cross Peters was living in the household of Aunt Ella's parents (and Asberine's son and daughter-in-law) Alva Edward Peters and Sallie Jane Cole. Vesta England Scarbrough was living next door in the home of her son-in-law and daughter Phillip Hancher Wells and Ida Rhoda Cole. Sallie was my g grandmother, and Aunt Ida was Sallie's sister. That suggests that Aunt Ella grew up with both of her grandmothers. However, in the 1910 census, Asberine Cross Peters was still living in the household of Aunt Ella's parents in Bear Creek Valley, but Vesta England Scarbrough was living a bit further away. Namely, Vesta England Scarbrough was living in the household of her daughter Mollie on "River Road" in Dist. 9. of Anderson County. I don't know where "River Road" was in 1910. It surely was along the Clinch River, and surely wasn't far from Bear Creek Valley because Bear Creek Valley was also in Dist. 9. But it also surely wasn't next door to Aunt Ella the way things were in 1900. Even taking the 1910 census into account, I don't think it's possible to say which of the grandmothers was the one who was reported to have Indian ancestry. And in any case, Asberine Cross and Vesta Clay England were first cousins. So possibly they both could have had Indian ancestry, and possibly they both could have shared the same Indian ancestor. Vesta Clay England was the daughter of John England and Jane (Jenny) Peters. There is no particular indication that either one of them was native American. Indeed, John England's Civil War pension application confirms indirectly that Jenny Peters was the daughter of Thomas Peters and Sarah (Sallie) England. Namely, the pension says that Jenny Peters was the sister of Mary A. (Polly) Peters who married John W. Scarbrough, and Polly Peters is known to have been the daughter Thomas Peters and Sarah (Sallie) England. John England's case itself is a little more interesting. He was the son of Titus England and Elizabeth. Elizabeth's parents are not known. The 1850 census says she was 55 years old born in North Carolina. The 1860 census says she was 67 years old born in North Carolina. And it may not have anything to do with anything, but John England's Civil War pension application reports that he also served in the "Florida war" (i.e., the Seminole War). In any case, Elizabeth who married Titus England might be a candidate to have been Native American. Asberine Cross was the daughter of Alfred Carter Cross and Zipporah Peters. Zipporah was the sister of Jenny Peters, which is why Asberine and Vesta were first cousins. Alfred was the son of William Cross. Alfred's mother was born in Canada, and I suspect that her name was Mary. But that's about all I know about her. Zipporah was the daughter of the aforementioned Thomas Peters and Sarah (Sallie) England. I simply see no evidence or even reasonable possibility for Native American ancestry in this branch of the family. I do not have a picture of Asberine Cross. I do have a picture of Vesta Clay England that was probably made in the early 1920's (she died in 1924). She had high cheekbones and looks a little bit like she could have had Native American ancestry, but those sorts of things can be very deceptive. Jerry Bryan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

    02/24/2008 08:37:22
    1. Re: [TNANDERS] Native American Heritage
    2. Marilyn Morris
    3. I enjoyed reading your information very much!! Are your Peters connected to James and/or John Peters? MM in TN On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Jerry Bryan wrote: >> Have any of you been told that you have a Native American >> ancestor? I >> have >> but have not discovered any truth to the story, though I'm sure >> that it's >> possible. Are you aware of any Native American ancestry in >> Anderson Co., >> TN? >> Or in the surrounding area? >> Helen > > We have a Native American ancestor story in my Peters family, but > it's only > oral history and it's pretty vague. The best version of the story > I have is > from my grandfather's sister Ella Mae Peters (married first Bayard > Yadon and > married second Thomas Clyde (Clyde) Cole). Aunt Ella died in 1987, > which > unfortunately was before I started doing family history and I never > heard > the story directly from Aunt Ella. The best living source I have > is Aunt > Ella's daughter Ada Louise Yadon, and I have heard the story > directly from > Ada. > > The story is that as a little girl, Ella was taken out in the woods > and > taught Indian lore (herbs, spices, that sort of thing) and told Indian > stories by her grandmother who had Indian ancestry. Ada's telling > of the > story elaborates a little more than that, but the key missing fact > is that > Ada doesn't know if the grandmother in question was Aunt Ella's > maternal > grandmother or her paternal grandmother. > > Because Aunt Ella was my grandfather's sister, both of her > grandmothers were > my gg grandmothers. Aunt Ella's paternal grandmother was Hulda > Asberine > (Asberine) Cross who married John Henry Peters. Aunt Ella's maternal > grandmother was Vesta Clay (Vestie) England who married first > William Cole > and who married second Chesley J. Scarbrough. My family is all > descended > through William Cole rather than through Chesley J. Scarbrough. > However > Vestie is remembered in my family either as Grandma Vestie or as > Grandma > Scarbrough. > > Aunt Ella was born in 1902. In the 1900 census, Asberine Cross > Peters was > living in the household of Aunt Ella's parents (and Asberine's son and > daughter-in-law) Alva Edward Peters and Sallie Jane Cole. Vesta > England > Scarbrough was living next door in the home of her son-in-law and > daughter > Phillip Hancher Wells and Ida Rhoda Cole. Sallie was my g > grandmother, and > Aunt Ida was Sallie's sister. That suggests that Aunt Ella grew up > with > both of her grandmothers. However, in the 1910 census, Asberine Cross > Peters was still living in the household of Aunt Ella's parents in > Bear > Creek Valley, but Vesta England Scarbrough was living a bit further > away. > Namely, Vesta England Scarbrough was living in the household of her > daughter > Mollie on "River Road" in Dist. 9. of Anderson County. I don't > know where > "River Road" was in 1910. It surely was along the Clinch River, > and surely > wasn't far from Bear Creek Valley because Bear Creek Valley was > also in > Dist. 9. But it also surely wasn't next door to Aunt Ella the way > things > were in 1900. > > Even taking the 1910 census into account, I don't think it's > possible to say > which of the grandmothers was the one who was reported to have Indian > ancestry. And in any case, Asberine Cross and Vesta Clay England > were first > cousins. So possibly they both could have had Indian ancestry, and > possibly > they both could have shared the same Indian ancestor. > > Vesta Clay England was the daughter of John England and Jane > (Jenny) Peters. > There is no particular indication that either one of them was native > American. Indeed, John England's Civil War pension application > confirms > indirectly that Jenny Peters was the daughter of Thomas Peters and > Sarah > (Sallie) England. Namely, the pension says that Jenny Peters was > the sister > of Mary A. (Polly) Peters who married John W. Scarbrough, and Polly > Peters > is known to have been the daughter Thomas Peters and Sarah (Sallie) > England. > John England's case itself is a little more interesting. He was > the son of > Titus England and Elizabeth. Elizabeth's parents are not known. > The 1850 > census says she was 55 years old born in North Carolina. The 1860 > census > says she was 67 years old born in North Carolina. And it may not have > anything to do with anything, but John England's Civil War pension > application reports that he also served in the "Florida war" (i.e., > the > Seminole War). In any case, Elizabeth who married Titus England > might be a > candidate to have been Native American. > > Asberine Cross was the daughter of Alfred Carter Cross and Zipporah > Peters. > Zipporah was the sister of Jenny Peters, which is why Asberine and > Vesta > were first cousins. Alfred was the son of William Cross. Alfred's > mother > was born in Canada, and I suspect that her name was Mary. But > that's about > all I know about her. Zipporah was the daughter of the aforementioned > Thomas Peters and Sarah (Sallie) England. I simply see no evidence > or even > reasonable possibility for Native American ancestry in this branch > of the > family. > > I do not have a picture of Asberine Cross. I do have a picture of > Vesta > Clay England that was probably made in the early 1920's (she died > in 1924). > She had high cheekbones and looks a little bit like she could have had > Native American ancestry, but those sorts of things can be very > deceptive. > > Jerry Bryan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNANDERS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 07:21:57
    1. [TNANDERS] History of Anderson Co 1776-1996
    2. S9359338
    3. Ron: I would appreciate a look up in the index for Severs Family HOw does one get a copy What does it cost How many pages in it and is it well indexed?? Charles Severs S9359338@aol.com

    02/24/2008 07:17:55