Fay, Are the Leinart's still in the Campbell county area? Thanks. Sandie

>Jerry, I just read Phyllis Peterson's reply to you and wonder about her Key >relatives!!! Do you think there could be any connection to the Keys who >might (with a good probability) be connected to our William Cole? I have wondered about that several times myself. I really don't know. The disconcerting piece of that possibility is that the Keys who showed up with the Coles in the west part of Knox County moved there from Blount County. I would be happier with a Cole connection to Phyllis Peterson's Key family if the Keys who were living next to the Coles had moved to Knox County from Anderson County instead of from Blount County. To those of you who might wonder what this conversation is about, William Cole and Vesta Clay England were married in Anderson County on 5 Dec 1865. Ann and I are both descended from William and Vesta. Vesta Clay England's ancestry is fairly well known. She was descended from Henry Peters Sr. and Mary Wiatte who moved to Anderson County in 1797 (before Anderson County was Anderson County), and she was also descended from John England and Vesta Zipporah Choate who moved to Anderson County around 1799 (I have not been able to pin down the exact date, but the Englands and the Choates were both on the 1802 tax list for Anderson County). But William Cole is a severe brick wall. William and Vesta were enumerated in the 1870 census in Knox County, living in the Beaver Ridge community. William's property was at the intersection of what is now Middlebrook Pike and Lovell Road. Their last child was born in 1873 and William died before the 1880 census. Vesta was enumerated in the 1880 census in the Concord community of Knox County, but two of her four young daughters were living in 1880 with relatives in Anderson County. She married Chesley J. Scarbrough in Anderson County in 1885, and she was in Anderson County for the 1900 and 1910 censuses. But I digress. There is apparently some connection between my William Cole's family and Martha M. Key of Blount County. Martha M. Key was the daughter of David Key and Nancy Bright of Blount County. She was married three times. She married (1) Warren J. Hyden on 6 Apr 1853 in Blount County, (2) William Cole on 29 Oct 1867 in Knox County, and (3) Joseph Yarnell on 12 Dec 1872. I haven't figured out who Joseph Yarnell was yet, but I suspect he was from Anderson County. I suspect that Martha M. Key's second husband William Cole was related to my William Cole, perhaps his father or his uncle. But I haven't yet figured out who either William Cole really was. My William Cole bought his land in Knox County from James H. Cox of Knox County. Martha M. Key bought land in Knox County that was just west of William Cole's land, and she bought it from A. Cox of Anderson County. Given that the two pieces of land were adjacent, it seems likely that James H. Cox of Knox County and A. Cox of Anderson County were related, but I haven't figured out who they were. But in any case, it seems to me that the fact that Martha M. Key and my William Cole owned adjacent parcels of land, that they both bought their land from Cox men, and that Martha M. Key's second husband was named William Cole strongly suggests a connection. Here is Martha M. Key age 45 in 1870. At the time, she was living in Concord and was apparently widowed from William Cole whom she married in 1867. I believe that William Cole age 24 was her stepson, and possibly could have been a first cousin of my William Cole. George Cole age 38 was also probably her stepson. The Hyden children were her children from her first marriage. Dist. 10, p.187b, HN 90, FN 90, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO Key David 78 m w farmer $6000/$800 TN Nancy 70 f w TN Cole George 38 m w farmer /$600 TN Elizabeth 38 f w keeping house TN Margaret 4 f w at home TN Martha 1 f w TN Dist. 10, p.187b, HN 91, FN 91, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO Martha 45 f w keeping house $1200/$100 TN Hyden Cordelia 11 f w TN Victoria 9 f w TN Roxey 7 f w TN Margaret 6 f w TN Cole William 24 m w TN Dist. 10, p.188a, HN 92, FN 92, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO Key Wesley 52 m w /$200 TN Catharine 36 f w TN Mary 13 f w TN David 12 m w TN Nancy 10 f w TN Rosa 7 f w TN Jordan 4 m w TN Lucy 1 f w TN In 1880, Martha M. Key was living on her land in Beaver Ridge adjacent to what had been my William Cole's land. She was now married to Joseph Yarnell. I don't know what happened to all the Coles who were with her in the 1870 census. Surely, not all of them died between 1870 and 1880. Dist. 19, Knox County, Tennessee, Jun 1880 p.417b, HN 224, FN 234 Yarnell Joseph 50 head m m w farmer TN TN TN Martha M. 53 wife f m w keeping house TN TN TN Maggie I. 20 dau f s w TN TN TN Bell M. 19 dau f s w TN TN TN Mary P. 15 dau f s w TN TN TN attended school Thomas D. 13 son m s w TN TN TN attended school Olly A. 11 dau f s w TN TN TN attended school Hiten Victory 19 Sdau f s w TN TN TN Maggie 15 Sdau f s w TN TN TN attended school Jerry Bryan

I will look but the name Cox might run into the Key's seems I found one living with them. Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Bryan" <c24m48@hotmail.com> To: <TNANDERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [TNANDERS-L] John Peters update, Anderson County, Tennessee > >Jerry, I just read Phyllis Peterson's reply to you and wonder about her Key > >relatives!!! Do you think there could be any connection to the Keys who > >might (with a good probability) be connected to our William Cole? > > I have wondered about that several times myself. I really don't know. > > The disconcerting piece of that possibility is that the Keys who showed up > with the Coles in the west part of Knox County moved there from Blount > County. I would be happier with a Cole connection to Phyllis Peterson's Key > family if the Keys who were living next to the Coles had moved to Knox > County from Anderson County instead of from Blount County. > > To those of you who might wonder what this conversation is about, William > Cole and Vesta Clay England were married in Anderson County on 5 Dec 1865. > Ann and I are both descended from William and Vesta. > > Vesta Clay England's ancestry is fairly well known. She was descended from > Henry Peters Sr. and Mary Wiatte who moved to Anderson County in 1797 > (before Anderson County was Anderson County), and she was also descended > from John England and Vesta Zipporah Choate who moved to Anderson County > around 1799 (I have not been able to pin down the exact date, but the > Englands and the Choates were both on the 1802 tax list for Anderson > County). > > But William Cole is a severe brick wall. William and Vesta were enumerated > in the 1870 census in Knox County, living in the Beaver Ridge community. > William's property was at the intersection of what is now Middlebrook Pike > and Lovell Road. Their last child was born in 1873 and William died before > the 1880 census. Vesta was enumerated in the 1880 census in the Concord > community of Knox County, but two of her four young daughters were living in > 1880 with relatives in Anderson County. She married Chesley J. Scarbrough > in Anderson County in 1885, and she was in Anderson County for the 1900 and > 1910 censuses. But I digress. > > There is apparently some connection between my William Cole's family and > Martha M. Key of Blount County. Martha M. Key was the daughter of David Key > and Nancy Bright of Blount County. She was married three times. She > married (1) Warren J. Hyden on 6 Apr 1853 in Blount County, (2) William Cole > on 29 Oct 1867 in Knox County, and (3) Joseph Yarnell on 12 Dec 1872. I > haven't figured out who Joseph Yarnell was yet, but I suspect he was from > Anderson County. I suspect that Martha M. Key's second husband William Cole > was related to my William Cole, perhaps his father or his uncle. But I > haven't yet figured out who either William Cole really was. > > My William Cole bought his land in Knox County from James H. Cox of Knox > County. Martha M. Key bought land in Knox County that was just west of > William Cole's land, and she bought it from A. Cox of Anderson County. > Given that the two pieces of land were adjacent, it seems likely that James > H. Cox of Knox County and A. Cox of Anderson County were related, but I > haven't figured out who they were. > > But in any case, it seems to me that the fact that Martha M. Key and my > William Cole owned adjacent parcels of land, that they both bought their > land from Cox men, and that Martha M. Key's second husband was named William > Cole strongly suggests a connection. > > Here is Martha M. Key age 45 in 1870. At the time, she was living in > Concord and was apparently widowed from William Cole whom she married in > 1867. I believe that William Cole age 24 was her stepson, and possibly > could have been a first cousin of my William Cole. George Cole age 38 was > also probably her stepson. The Hyden children were her children from her > first marriage. > > Dist. 10, p.187b, HN 90, FN 90, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO > Key David 78 m w farmer $6000/$800 TN > Nancy 70 f w TN > Cole George 38 m w farmer /$600 TN > Elizabeth 38 f w keeping house TN > Margaret 4 f w at home TN > Martha 1 f w TN > Dist. 10, p.187b, HN 91, FN 91, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO > Martha 45 f w keeping house $1200/$100 TN > Hyden Cordelia 11 f w TN > Victoria 9 f w TN > Roxey 7 f w TN > Margaret 6 f w TN > Cole William 24 m w TN > Dist. 10, p.188a, HN 92, FN 92, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO > Key Wesley 52 m w /$200 TN > Catharine 36 f w TN > Mary 13 f w TN > David 12 m w TN > Nancy 10 f w TN > Rosa 7 f w TN > Jordan 4 m w TN > Lucy 1 f w TN > > In 1880, Martha M. Key was living on her land in Beaver Ridge adjacent to > what had been my William Cole's land. She was now married to Joseph > Yarnell. I don't know what happened to all the Coles who were with her in > the 1870 census. Surely, not all of them died between 1870 and 1880. > > Dist. 19, Knox County, Tennessee, Jun 1880 > p.417b, HN 224, FN 234 > Yarnell Joseph 50 head m m w farmer TN TN TN > Martha M. 53 wife f m w keeping house TN TN TN > Maggie I. 20 dau f s w TN TN TN > Bell M. 19 dau f s w TN TN TN > Mary P. 15 dau f s w TN TN TN attended school > Thomas D. 13 son m s w TN TN TN attended school > Olly A. 11 dau f s w TN TN TN attended school > Hiten Victory 19 Sdau f s w TN TN TN > Maggie 15 Sdau f s w TN TN TN attended school > > Jerry Bryan > > > > ==== TNANDERS Mailing List ==== > Please do not write your message with CAPS on. It is seen as anger.You may put Surnames in CAPS. > Do not send your letter as a Forward and do not send Attachments. Rootsweb Does Not Accept Attachments. > >

I think your right as "always" I don't think my "Keys" went to Blont Co., John Wesley Key ran the first poor house was a J.P. in Anderson.Co., I have a letter where my G Uncle went fox hunting in Anderson Co.with Wm Key.. I'm so rum dumb from reading all that I have yesterday & believe me it's a stack I can't think, see ya all later or tomorrow when I can give better information. & Ann, there is a book on the Key's & I will tell you when my mind is clear. Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Bryan" <c24m48@hotmail.com> To: <TNANDERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [TNANDERS-L] John Peters update, Anderson County, Tennessee > >Jerry, I just read Phyllis Peterson's reply to you and wonder about her Key > >relatives!!! Do you think there could be any connection to the Keys who > >might (with a good probability) be connected to our William Cole? > > I have wondered about that several times myself. I really don't know. > > The disconcerting piece of that possibility is that the Keys who showed up > with the Coles in the west part of Knox County moved there from Blount > County. I would be happier with a Cole connection to Phyllis Peterson's Key > family if the Keys who were living next to the Coles had moved to Knox > County from Anderson County instead of from Blount County. > > To those of you who might wonder what this conversation is about, William > Cole and Vesta Clay England were married in Anderson County on 5 Dec 1865. > Ann and I are both descended from William and Vesta. > > Vesta Clay England's ancestry is fairly well known. She was descended from > Henry Peters Sr. and Mary Wiatte who moved to Anderson County in 1797 > (before Anderson County was Anderson County), and she was also descended > from John England and Vesta Zipporah Choate who moved to Anderson County > around 1799 (I have not been able to pin down the exact date, but the > Englands and the Choates were both on the 1802 tax list for Anderson > County). > > But William Cole is a severe brick wall. William and Vesta were enumerated > in the 1870 census in Knox County, living in the Beaver Ridge community. > William's property was at the intersection of what is now Middlebrook Pike > and Lovell Road. Their last child was born in 1873 and William died before > the 1880 census. Vesta was enumerated in the 1880 census in the Concord > community of Knox County, but two of her four young daughters were living in > 1880 with relatives in Anderson County. She married Chesley J. Scarbrough > in Anderson County in 1885, and she was in Anderson County for the 1900 and > 1910 censuses. But I digress. > > There is apparently some connection between my William Cole's family and > Martha M. Key of Blount County. Martha M. Key was the daughter of David Key > and Nancy Bright of Blount County. She was married three times. She > married (1) Warren J. Hyden on 6 Apr 1853 in Blount County, (2) William Cole > on 29 Oct 1867 in Knox County, and (3) Joseph Yarnell on 12 Dec 1872. I > haven't figured out who Joseph Yarnell was yet, but I suspect he was from > Anderson County. I suspect that Martha M. Key's second husband William Cole > was related to my William Cole, perhaps his father or his uncle. But I > haven't yet figured out who either William Cole really was. > > My William Cole bought his land in Knox County from James H. Cox of Knox > County. Martha M. Key bought land in Knox County that was just west of > William Cole's land, and she bought it from A. Cox of Anderson County. > Given that the two pieces of land were adjacent, it seems likely that James > H. Cox of Knox County and A. Cox of Anderson County were related, but I > haven't figured out who they were. > > But in any case, it seems to me that the fact that Martha M. Key and my > William Cole owned adjacent parcels of land, that they both bought their > land from Cox men, and that Martha M. Key's second husband was named William > Cole strongly suggests a connection. > > Here is Martha M. Key age 45 in 1870. At the time, she was living in > Concord and was apparently widowed from William Cole whom she married in > 1867. I believe that William Cole age 24 was her stepson, and possibly > could have been a first cousin of my William Cole. George Cole age 38 was > also probably her stepson. The Hyden children were her children from her > first marriage. > > Dist. 10, p.187b, HN 90, FN 90, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO > Key David 78 m w farmer $6000/$800 TN > Nancy 70 f w TN > Cole George 38 m w farmer /$600 TN > Elizabeth 38 f w keeping house TN > Margaret 4 f w at home TN > Martha 1 f w TN > Dist. 10, p.187b, HN 91, FN 91, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO > Martha 45 f w keeping house $1200/$100 TN > Hyden Cordelia 11 f w TN > Victoria 9 f w TN > Roxey 7 f w TN > Margaret 6 f w TN > Cole William 24 m w TN > Dist. 10, p.188a, HN 92, FN 92, 18 Aug 1870, Concord PO > Key Wesley 52 m w /$200 TN > Catharine 36 f w TN > Mary 13 f w TN > David 12 m w TN > Nancy 10 f w TN > Rosa 7 f w TN > Jordan 4 m w TN > Lucy 1 f w TN > > In 1880, Martha M. Key was living on her land in Beaver Ridge adjacent to > what had been my William Cole's land. She was now married to Joseph > Yarnell. I don't know what happened to all the Coles who were with her in > the 1870 census. Surely, not all of them died between 1870 and 1880. > > Dist. 19, Knox County, Tennessee, Jun 1880 > p.417b, HN 224, FN 234 > Yarnell Joseph 50 head m m w farmer TN TN TN > Martha M. 53 wife f m w keeping house TN TN TN > Maggie I. 20 dau f s w TN TN TN > Bell M. 19 dau f s w TN TN TN > Mary P. 15 dau f s w TN TN TN attended school > Thomas D. 13 son m s w TN TN TN attended school > Olly A. 11 dau f s w TN TN TN attended school > Hiten Victory 19 Sdau f s w TN TN TN > Maggie 15 Sdau f s w TN TN TN attended school > > Jerry Bryan > > > > ==== TNANDERS Mailing List ==== > Please do not write your message with CAPS on. It is seen as anger.You may put Surnames in CAPS. > Do not send your letter as a Forward and do not send Attachments. Rootsweb Does Not Accept Attachments. > >

Hi Ann, Right now I wish I were a "Peters" (smile) I don't know if I am in your line but if you have "Key" in your tree from Anderson Co., I bet I am . I'm so mixed up on this line and have been for over 30 years & I tossed it a side but now I'm having a book printed and must try again and what I did have is wrong as of this weekend as I thought my great grandmother went to Texas (Sarah F. Key who married Thomas Jefferson Prosise) went to Texas because other "Keys" were there but they went there because the Hoskins were there.I've never seen so many John, James, William, & etc in my life.Bet they didn't miss Peter. By 1850 when they first listed all the names some of the Children had marrieid and left home. I've heard they had 12 children but can only find 9. John Wesley Key, born in Tennesse 1797\1798. He died in Anderson Co., 1882 and is buried at the Key-Hoskins Cemetery, in Anderson Co., He married Elizabeth ? who was born in Va. some say she was an Allred & I don't think so & others thought John W. Key married an Matilda. I find she married his son James W. Key. I believe that Elizabeth died before the 1880 census. Here are their children: James Wesley Key, born 20, Aug. 1819 in Anderson Co., married Matilda Early 20, Nov. 1845.died , 15, Dec.1892 & is buried at the Key - Hoskins Cem. Anderson Co., Female Key, Some say she is a Louisa Henderson but I find she married Tobis Peters. She as born in 1822, In Anderson Co. Isaac Miller Key, born 22, April 1824 in Anderson Co., Married Lodema Caroline Hoskins on 30 Dec. 1850 in Anderson Co., He died 2, April 1863 at Panola, Texas. & is bried there in the Youngblood Cem. Male Key, born 1825\1829 in Anderson Co., Male Key, born 1825\1829 in Anderson Co., they may be twins or as much as 4 years apart. William A. Key, 26, July 1834 in Anderson Co., Married Nancy E.V, Hoskins 23, Dec. 1869 in Anderson Co., died 24, July 1880 buried at the Sunset Cem. Anderson Co., Polly E. Key, born 1836 in Anderson Co., no infor. Sarah F. Key, born in 1838 ( my Great Grandmother) married Thomas Jefferson Prosise abt.1846 and died 20, Feb1869 along with two daughters. Bef. she is buried in the old Baptist Cem. Anderson Co., Male Key, born 1837. no Infro. Now if you really want to be confused get the 1850 census from Sumner Co., Tenn. and find John W. Key there with his wife & children and in the 1850 census in Anderson Co., they are there too. Now you have to admitt this is wonderful work that took 30 years to find (just kidding). I'll keep my fingers crossed until I hear from you & thanks a bunch. Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> To: <TNANDERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [TNANDERS-L] FW: [PETERS] John Peters update, Anderson County, Tennessee > Jerry, I just read Phyllis Peterson's reply to you and wonder about her > Key relatives!!! Do you think there could be any connection to the > Keys who might (with a good probability) be connected to our William > Cole? > > Ann Scarbrough Perrine > On Dec 6, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Jerry Bryan wrote: > > > I posted the following to the Peters list at rootsweb over the > > weekend. I thought it might be interesting to a few people on the > > Anderson County list as well. There are a few parts I would probably > > have written slightly differently if the original intended audience > > had been the Anderson County list, but here it is just as I wrote it > > for the Peters list. > > > > Jerry Bryan > > > > > >> There are a lot of puzzles associated with men named John Peters in > >> Anderson County, Tennessee. I have posted about them several times > >> before, and now I have some new information. > >> > >> A basic working assumption is that all the Peters in Anderson County > >> were descended either from Henry Peters Sr. or Tobias Peters Sr. > >> This assumption seems to hold up at least from the arrival of Henry > >> and Tobias in Anderson County in 1797 until some other Peters lines > >> showed up in Anderson County in the late 19th century. I have never > >> seen any evidence that contradicts this working assumption. > >> > >> This working assumption limits the possibilities for who the various > >> early John Peters in Anderson County might have been. I think there > >> are four main possibilities. > >> > >> #1 Henry Peters Sr. -> Thomas Peters -> John Peters > >> #2 Henry Peters Sr. -> Henry Peters Jr. -> John Peters > >> #3 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters > >> #4 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters -> John Peters > >> > >> John Peters #3 is known to have existed from the will of Tobias > >> Peters Sr. and from deeds where the heirs of Tobias Peters Sr. sold > >> his land after his death. However, very little is known about John > >> Peters #3, for example whether he married or had children. > >> Therefore, the existence of John Peters #4 (son of John and grandson > >> of Tobias Sr.) is highly speculative. I include the possibility of > >> John Peters #4 only for completeness and only because there were so > >> many John Peters that I need a place to put them all. > >> > >> John Peters #1 is known to exist from tax records and a deed. Thomas > >> Peters paid taxes on 134 + 50 acres in 1839. John W. Peters paid > >> taxes on 134 + 50 acres in 1840. John W. Peters paid taxes on 184 > >> acres in 1841. John W. Peters and William Peters sold 184 acres to > >> George W. Keith on 31 Dec 1841. The land was adjacent to land of > >> Thomas Peters. G.W. Keith paid taxes on 184 acres in 1842. There > >> was no extant deed that transferred the land from Thomas Peters to > >> John W. Peters and William Peters between 1839 and 1840. Under these > >> circumstances, I think it is extremely likely that John W. Peters and > >> William Peters were sons of Thomas Peters. > >> > >> The existence of John Peters #2 is speculative. But there were so > >> many John Peters, that #2 seems likely to me to have existed. See > >> below for more discussion on this point. > >> > >> There are a number of records about various John Peters, but the > >> records that interest me the most are two marriage records. John W. > >> Peters married Ruby Smith on 26 Jun 1840 in Anderson County. John W. > >> Peters married Catherine Lea on 26 Jan 1841 in Anderson County. But > >> of #1, #2, #3, and #4, which one married Ruby Smith and which one > >> married Catherine Lea? > >> > >> I am descended from John W. Peters and Ruby Smith. My John W. Peters > >> died in 1861 in the Civil War, and my Ruby Smith died in 1867 in > >> Anderson County. Ruby filed for a widow's Civil War pension before > >> her death, and one of her children filed for a Civil War pension > >> after her death, based on John's very short Civil War service. These > >> documents are very interesting reading, but they do not provide any > >> information about John's ancestors. > >> > >> I have found no will or settlement for my John W. Peters. I have > >> found an 1867 settlement for the widow Ruby Smith Peters. It really > >> is just an estate sale. But many of the names involved in the estate > >> sale were associated with Thomas Peters, suggesting that my John W. > >> Peters was the son of Thomas (and hence was John Peters #1). > >> > >> For many years, John W. Peters and Catherine Lea seemed to have > >> vanished from the face of the earth after their marriage. The only > >> clue I had was that there was a Robert H. Lea enumerated in the 1840 > >> census for Anderson County. I probably did not pursue this clue > >> aggressively enough, because I now believe that Catherine Lea was the > >> daughter of Robert H. Lea. Here is the 1840 census entry for Robert > >> H. Lea as I currently have it transcribed. > >> > >> p.5a, line 14, 1840, Anderson County, Tennessee > >> Robt. H. Lea 0010101-0210201, 1 male slave 21-24, 10 people total, 4 > >> in agriculture > >> > >> 00-04 0 0 1836-1840 > >> 05-09 0 2 1831-1835 > >> 10-14 1 1 1826-1830 > >> 15-19 0 0 1821-1825 > >> 20-29 1 2 1811-1820 Dr. Jesse L. Lea, Catherine Lea > >> 30-39 0 0 1801-1810 > >> 40-49 1 1 1791-1800 Rev. Robert H. Lea, Jane D. > >> > >> I believe this was the Rev. Robert H. Lea. One of his sons was Dr. > >> Jesse L. Lea, born in 1820 in Cocke County, Tennessee. The family > >> was enumerated in the 1830 census in Jefferson County, Tennessee. By > >> 1840, they were living in Anderson County, Tennessee where I believe > >> Catherine met and married John W. Peters. But I lost track of them > >> after that. > >> > >> I now believe I have found them in Missouri. > >> > >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >> p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 > >> Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN > >> Kitty 28 f w TN > >> Sarah 9 f w TN > >> Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school > >> Thomas S. 5 m w MO > >> Mary L. A. 1 f w MO > >> > >> Kitty is a common nickname for Catherine, but that is not what > >> persuaded me this family was from Anderson County, Tennessee. After > >> all, Tennessee is a big state and John Wesley Peters of Johnson > >> County, Missouri did not have to have come to Missouri from Anderson > >> County. What started to persuade me is that living next door to John > >> Wesley Peters and Kitty was Welcome Raymond McCart and his wife > >> Fanny. > >> > >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >> p.28a, HN 337, FN 339 > >> McCart Welcome W. 27 m w farmer $125 TN > >> Fanny A. 26 f w TN > >> Mary L. M. 1 f w MO > >> > >> I don't know who Fanny was, but Welcome McCart was the son of Robert > >> McCart Sr. and Hannah Peters. The family of Robert McCart Sr. was > >> closely connected to the Peters family. There's the obvious > >> connection that Robert married Hannah Peters. I don't know how > >> Hannah fits into the families of Tobias Peters Sr. or Henry Peters > >> Sr. She could have been the sister of one or the other of them (or > >> both, since we don't know for sure of Tobias and Henry were > >> brothers), or she could have been unrelated. But of more import, > >> Robert McCart's daughter Rebecca married James Peters, son of Tobias > >> Peters Sr. And a probable son of Robert McCart, given name unknown, > >> married Agnes Peters, daughter of Tobias Peters Sr. (Tobias named a > >> daughter Agnes McCart in his will). > >> > >> But there's more. Living next door to the McCarts was Dr. Jesse L. > >> Lea, son of Rev. Robert H. Lea. So surely, Kitty in house number 338 > >> was Jesse's sister Catherine Lea. > >> > >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >> p.28a, HN 336, FN 338 > >> Lea Jesse L. 30 m w physician $1000 TN > >> Harriet 34 f w VA > >> Mary J. 2 f w " > >> > >> Dr. Jesse L. Lea is known to have arrived in Johnson County, Missouri > >> in 1844. He married Harriet Tandy in 1846 in Johnson County. > >> Despite the ditto marks in the census entry for their daughter Mary > >> J. Lea, Mary J. was surely born in Missouri rather than in Virginia. > >> The ages and the birth places of the children of John Wesley Peters > >> and Kitty suggest that they also arrived in Missouri about 1844, so > >> the families probably traveled together. > >> > >> Finally, old Rev. Robert H. Lea himself was also in the Washington > >> Township of Johnson County in 1850, although he wasn't living next > >> door to the rest of the family. > >> > >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 17 Sep 1850 > >> p.20a, HN 242, FN 243 > >> Lea Robt. H. 55 m w M. clergyman $1000 NC > >> Jane D. 54 f w VA > >> Thomas 25 m w farmer TN > >> Brunetta A. 20 f w TN > >> Mary E. 17 f w TN > >> Mirinda J. 15 f w TN > >> > >> So now that I seem to have found John W. Peters and Catherine Lea, > >> which John Peters was he? My first reaction was that he had to have > >> been #3 or #4, which is to say that he had to have been either > >> Tobias's son or grandson. The reason is that it was descendants of > >> Tobias Sr. rather than descendants of Henry Sr. who seem to have > >> interacted with the McCart family. > >> > >> Tobias Sr. and Henry Sr. both moved originally to the part of > >> Anderson County that is called the Scarbrough community. Scarbrough > >> is in the southwest corner of the county. Henry and his sons Henry > >> Jr. and Thomas continued to live in Scarbrough. But Tobias purchased > >> land that I believe was not in Scarbrough, but rather was on the > >> northwest part of the county. I need to do some additional work to > >> try to figure out exactly where Tobias's land was, but it almost > >> certainly was not in Scarbrough. I don't find Tobias's descendants > >> in Scarbrough. For example, Tobias's son James lived in Morgan > >> County, not far across the county line from the northwest part of > >> Anderson County. The McCarts were in the same part of Morgan County. > >> > >> But I ran into trouble trying to fit John W. Peters who married > >> Catherine Lea into the Tobias Peters family. John W. Peters who > >> married Catherine Lea was born about 1815. Most researchers list the > >> birth date of John Peters #3 as about 1800. I'm not sure exactly > >> where that date comes from. Tobias was married in 1797, his first > >> son James was born in 1798, and John #3 was the second son. Maybe > >> it's only natural to assume that John was born in 1800. But the next > >> known son was Wesley who was born in 1816. There were three > >> daughters in between - Rebecca 1800/1803, Agnes 1805 (this is a > >> guess), and Mary 1813. So John Peters #3 didn't have to have been > >> born in 1800; he could have been born considerably later. On the > >> other hand, John Peters #3 and his brother James were named executors > >> of their father's will and guardians of their sister Rachel in 1831. > >> So I think John Peters #3 was at least 21 years old in 1831, and > >> therefore was born prior to 1810. > >> > >> By the same token, the earliest that John Peters #3 could have been > >> born was 1800, so I think it would have been unlikely that he married > >> and had a son by 1815. Women often married that young, but men > >> seldom did. Therefore, I don't think that John Peters #3 or John > >> Peters #4 could have been the John W. Peters who married Catherine > >> Lea. > >> > >> That gets us back to the hypothetical John Peters #2, son of Henry > >> Peters Jr. So it seems to me that John W. Peters born 1815 who > >> married Catherine Lea and John W. Peters born 1822 who married Ruby > >> Smith had to have been first cousins, with one of them being #2 son > >> of Henry Peters Jr. and the other being #1 son of Thomas Peters. But > >> which one was which? > >> > >> The Anderson County marriage book didn't start until the 1830's. We > >> know from his War of 1812 pension application that Thomas Peters was > >> married in 1812, so he could have been the father either of John W. > >> Peters #1 or of #2. His first known child was Zipporah Peters born > >> 1813/1814. It is not known when Henry Peters Jr. was married. He > >> was born in about 1790 and his wife Jane England was born about 1800 > >> (age 50 in the 1850 census). Jane would have been young in 1815 to > >> have been the mother of the John W. Peters who married Catherine Lea, > >> but it is far from impossible. Henry Jr.'s first known child was > >> Mary Jane Peters born 1827. But there are definitely some gaps in > >> the knowledge of Henry Jr.'s children. > >> > >> Here is the 1830 census entry for Thomas, with children placed > >> according to my best current knowledge of the family. > >> > >> p.172, line 8, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 > >> Thomas Peters 0120001-1211001 > >> > >> 00-04 0 1 1826-1830 Susan Peters > >> 05-09 1 2 1821-1825 John W. Peters, Mary Peters > >> 10-14 2 1 1816-1820 Henry Clark (Clark) Peters, William F. > >> Peters, Jane Peters > >> 15-19 0 1 1811-1815 Zipporah Peters > >> 20-29 0 0 1801-1810 > >> 30-39 0 0 1791-1800 > >> 40-49 1 1 1781-1790 Thomas Peters, Sarah (Sallie) England > >> > >> Here is the 1830 census entry for Henry Jr. Note in particular the > >> absence of any male born in the 1815 timeframe. > >> > >> p.172, line 10, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 > >> Peters Henry 0200001-21001 > >> > >> 00-04 0 2 1826-1830 Mary Jane Peters > >> 05-09 2 1 1821-1825 > >> 10-14 0 0 1816-1820 > >> 15-19 0 0 1811-1815 > >> 20-29 0 1 1801-1810 Jane England > >> 30-39 0 1791-1800 > >> 40-49 1 1781-1790 Henry Peters Jr. > >> > >> And indeed, based on the ages of the children in this census entry, I > >> list Henry Peters Jr. and Jane England as having been married about > >> 1820, when Jane was about 20 years old. Well, it easily could have > >> been 1818 or 1819 or so. > >> > >> Given these facts, I am forced to conclude that John W. Peters born > >> about 1815 who married Catherine Lea was probably the son of Thomas > >> Peters and Sarah (Sallie) England. Then, the only place I can put my > >> John W. Peters born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith was as the son > >> of Henry Peters Jr. and Jane England. This is certainly a > >> revisionist history, although as I said the two John W. Peters in > >> question were first cousins and the common ancestors in either case > >> were Henry Peters Sr. and his wife Mary Wiatte. > >> > >> Let's look again at John Wesley Peters and Catherine Lea in the 1850 > >> census in Missouri. > >> > >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >> p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 > >> Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN > >> Kitty 28 f w TN > >> Sarah 9 f w TN > >> Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school > >> Thomas S. 5 m w MO > >> Mary L. A. 1 f w MO > >> > >> Robert W. Peters age 7 was surely named for his grandfather Rev. > >> Robert H. Lea. But notice that there is a Sarah and a Thomas. It > >> surely makes sense that Sarah age 9 was named for her grandmother > >> Sarah (Sallie) England who married Thomas Peters, and that Thomas S. > >> Peters age 5 was named for his grandfather Thomas Peters. The only > >> child that doesn't fit this pattern is Mary age 1 because Rev. Robert > >> H. Lea's wife was named Jane D. But perhaps there was a Jane Peters > >> age 3 who died (note the gap between Thomas age 5 and Mary age 1). > >> Perhaps Robert Lea's wife was Mary Jane. Perhaps the family simply > >> didn't follow the naming pattern for the fourth child. Or perhaps > >> this whole theory isn't correct at all. But an extremely large > >> number of the pieces fit extremely well. > >> > >> Finally, let's return to the settlement of Ruby Smith Peters and look > >> at why it suggests that John W. Peters born about 1822 was the son of > >> Thomas Peters rather than the son of Henry Peters Jr. as I now > >> believe. > >> > >> As I said, it was just an estate sale and in general does not provide > >> a lot of genealogical information. The administrator was W.B. > >> Peters. This was Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, oldest son of John > >> W. Peters and Ruby Smith. But Blair Peters was already known to have > >> been their son, even if the settlement didn't exist. Many of the > >> names of people purchasing items were just neighbors. Peters family > >> members were as follows: > >> > >> * J.H. Peters (John Henry Peters, son of John W. Peters and Ruby > >> Smith) > >> * Alex Cross (William Alexander Cross, son of Alfred Carter Cross and > >> Zipporah Peters and grandson of Thomas Peters) > >> * F.A. Peters (Francis Asbury Peters, son of Henry Peters Jr.) > >> * James Sample (James Samsel, husband of Mary J. Peters and > >> son-in-law of John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) > >> * P.W. Shannon (Preston William Shannon, husband of Sarah Emily > >> Peters and son-in-law of Thomas Peters) > >> * G.H. Peters (probably bad transcription, probably C.H. Peters - > >> Henry Clark (Clark) Peters, son of either Thomas Peters or of Henry > >> Peters Jr., there is conflicting evidence on this point) > >> * A.C. Cross (Alfred Carter Cross, husband of Zipporah Peters and > >> son-in-law of Thomas Peters) > >> * W.B. Peters (the aforementioned Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, > >> son of John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) > >> * John Scarbrough (John W. Scarbrough, husband of Mary Peters and > >> son-in-law of Thomas Peters) > >> > >> So there were definitely people associated with Henry Peters Jr. in > >> the list in addition to people associated with Thomas Peters. And in > >> any case, Henry Jr. and Thomas were brothers and they lived next door > >> to each other. So they would have had the same friends, neighbors, > >> and family. Looked at alone, I still believe that the settlement > >> suggests that John W. Peters born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith > >> was the son of Thomas Peters. But the settlement is not definitive, > >> and I believe that the 1830 and 1850 census data along with the > >> naming patterns of the children of John Wesley Peters and Catherine > >> Lea force me to revise my history. > >> > >> By the way, I am still descended from Thomas Peters. In my previous > >> history, I listed myself as descended from Thomas's children Zipporah > >> Peters, Jane Peters, and John W. Peters. In my revisionist history, > >> I list myself as descended from Thomas's daughters Zipporah Peters > >> and Jane Peters, and from Henry Jr.'s son John W. Peters. Thomas and > >> Henry Jr. were brothers, sons of Henry Peters Sr. > >> > >> Jerry Bryan > > > > > > > > ==== TNANDERS Mailing List ==== > > Post your questions and inquiry about your Ancestor > > regularly...Someone may find a relative. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNANDERS > > > > > > ==== TNANDERS Mailing List ==== > To See Previous Posts http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNANDERS > >

ARREST DESERTER IN SLAYING OF OFFICER CLINTON. Tenn. —(UP)— Addison Jackson. 19 year old hill-billy who "resigned" from the army, and his mother, Cora, are to be charged with murder of a deputy sheriff who tried to arrest him as a deserter, authorities said today. Jackson was arrested at the home of a kinsman near here last night after he, his mother and grandmother fled their home in Briceville, Tenn., where Deputy Sheriff Reuben Fox was slain with his own gun. The rings of Fox's handcuffs were still on Jackson's wrists. Their connecting lock had been severed with a file. The grandmother, Mrs. Pearl White, was found in the LaFollette Hospital with a bullet wound in her hip. Her grandson shot her by accident. Source: Charleroi Mail, Charleroi, Pennsylvania August 23, 1943

A Sad Case. Knoxville. Tenn.. Oct. 2I. Just as the case of Clarence Peake. charged with murder of Silas Hulin. of Clinton. Tenn., was about to be called In the supreme court here yesterday, the supposed dead man appeared and announced that he had been in Colo- rado and had come back to prove Peake's innocence. Peake. who is the son of a prominent family, had been sentenced in a lower court to ten years in the penitentiary, but is now in the insane asylum near here, a raving maniac, because of the charge against him. Source: Daily Chronicle, Elyria, Ohio October 21, 1902

Jerry, I just read Phyllis Peterson's reply to you and wonder about her Key relatives!!! Do you think there could be any connection to the Keys who might (with a good probability) be connected to our William Cole? Ann Scarbrough Perrine On Dec 6, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Jerry Bryan wrote: > I posted the following to the Peters list at rootsweb over the > weekend. I thought it might be interesting to a few people on the > Anderson County list as well. There are a few parts I would probably > have written slightly differently if the original intended audience > had been the Anderson County list, but here it is just as I wrote it > for the Peters list. > > Jerry Bryan > > >> There are a lot of puzzles associated with men named John Peters in >> Anderson County, Tennessee. I have posted about them several times >> before, and now I have some new information. >> >> A basic working assumption is that all the Peters in Anderson County >> were descended either from Henry Peters Sr. or Tobias Peters Sr. >> This assumption seems to hold up at least from the arrival of Henry >> and Tobias in Anderson County in 1797 until some other Peters lines >> showed up in Anderson County in the late 19th century. I have never >> seen any evidence that contradicts this working assumption. >> >> This working assumption limits the possibilities for who the various >> early John Peters in Anderson County might have been. I think there >> are four main possibilities. >> >> #1 Henry Peters Sr. -> Thomas Peters -> John Peters >> #2 Henry Peters Sr. -> Henry Peters Jr. -> John Peters >> #3 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters >> #4 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters -> John Peters >> >> John Peters #3 is known to have existed from the will of Tobias >> Peters Sr. and from deeds where the heirs of Tobias Peters Sr. sold >> his land after his death. However, very little is known about John >> Peters #3, for example whether he married or had children. >> Therefore, the existence of John Peters #4 (son of John and grandson >> of Tobias Sr.) is highly speculative. I include the possibility of >> John Peters #4 only for completeness and only because there were so >> many John Peters that I need a place to put them all. >> >> John Peters #1 is known to exist from tax records and a deed. Thomas >> Peters paid taxes on 134 + 50 acres in 1839. John W. Peters paid >> taxes on 134 + 50 acres in 1840. John W. Peters paid taxes on 184 >> acres in 1841. John W. Peters and William Peters sold 184 acres to >> George W. Keith on 31 Dec 1841. The land was adjacent to land of >> Thomas Peters. G.W. Keith paid taxes on 184 acres in 1842. There >> was no extant deed that transferred the land from Thomas Peters to >> John W. Peters and William Peters between 1839 and 1840. Under these >> circumstances, I think it is extremely likely that John W. Peters and >> William Peters were sons of Thomas Peters. >> >> The existence of John Peters #2 is speculative. But there were so >> many John Peters, that #2 seems likely to me to have existed. See >> below for more discussion on this point. >> >> There are a number of records about various John Peters, but the >> records that interest me the most are two marriage records. John W. >> Peters married Ruby Smith on 26 Jun 1840 in Anderson County. John W. >> Peters married Catherine Lea on 26 Jan 1841 in Anderson County. But >> of #1, #2, #3, and #4, which one married Ruby Smith and which one >> married Catherine Lea? >> >> I am descended from John W. Peters and Ruby Smith. My John W. Peters >> died in 1861 in the Civil War, and my Ruby Smith died in 1867 in >> Anderson County. Ruby filed for a widow’s Civil War pension before >> her death, and one of her children filed for a Civil War pension >> after her death, based on John’s very short Civil War service. These >> documents are very interesting reading, but they do not provide any >> information about John’s ancestors. >> >> I have found no will or settlement for my John W. Peters. I have >> found an 1867 settlement for the widow Ruby Smith Peters. It really >> is just an estate sale. But many of the names involved in the estate >> sale were associated with Thomas Peters, suggesting that my John W. >> Peters was the son of Thomas (and hence was John Peters #1). >> >> For many years, John W. Peters and Catherine Lea seemed to have >> vanished from the face of the earth after their marriage. The only >> clue I had was that there was a Robert H. Lea enumerated in the 1840 >> census for Anderson County. I probably did not pursue this clue >> aggressively enough, because I now believe that Catherine Lea was the >> daughter of Robert H. Lea. Here is the 1840 census entry for Robert >> H. Lea as I currently have it transcribed. >> >> p.5a, line 14, 1840, Anderson County, Tennessee >> Robt. H. Lea 0010101-0210201, 1 male slave 21-24, 10 people total, 4 >> in agriculture >> >> 00-04 0 0 1836-1840 >> 05-09 0 2 1831-1835 >> 10-14 1 1 1826-1830 >> 15-19 0 0 1821-1825 >> 20-29 1 2 1811-1820 Dr. Jesse L. Lea, Catherine Lea >> 30-39 0 0 1801-1810 >> 40-49 1 1 1791-1800 Rev. Robert H. Lea, Jane D. >> >> I believe this was the Rev. Robert H. Lea. One of his sons was Dr. >> Jesse L. Lea, born in 1820 in Cocke County, Tennessee. The family >> was enumerated in the 1830 census in Jefferson County, Tennessee. By >> 1840, they were living in Anderson County, Tennessee where I believe >> Catherine met and married John W. Peters. But I lost track of them >> after that. >> >> I now believe I have found them in Missouri. >> >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >> p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 >> Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN >> Kitty 28 f w TN >> Sarah 9 f w TN >> Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school >> Thomas S. 5 m w MO >> Mary L. A. 1 f w MO >> >> Kitty is a common nickname for Catherine, but that is not what >> persuaded me this family was from Anderson County, Tennessee. After >> all, Tennessee is a big state and John Wesley Peters of Johnson >> County, Missouri did not have to have come to Missouri from Anderson >> County. What started to persuade me is that living next door to John >> Wesley Peters and Kitty was Welcome Raymond McCart and his wife >> Fanny. >> >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >> p.28a, HN 337, FN 339 >> McCart Welcome W. 27 m w farmer $125 TN >> Fanny A. 26 f w TN >> Mary L. M. 1 f w MO >> >> I don’t know who Fanny was, but Welcome McCart was the son of Robert >> McCart Sr. and Hannah Peters. The family of Robert McCart Sr. was >> closely connected to the Peters family. There’s the obvious >> connection that Robert married Hannah Peters. I don’t know how >> Hannah fits into the families of Tobias Peters Sr. or Henry Peters >> Sr. She could have been the sister of one or the other of them (or >> both, since we don’t know for sure of Tobias and Henry were >> brothers), or she could have been unrelated. But of more import, >> Robert McCart’s daughter Rebecca married James Peters, son of Tobias >> Peters Sr. And a probable son of Robert McCart, given name unknown, >> married Agnes Peters, daughter of Tobias Peters Sr. (Tobias named a >> daughter Agnes McCart in his will). >> >> But there’s more. Living next door to the McCarts was Dr. Jesse L. >> Lea, son of Rev. Robert H. Lea. So surely, Kitty in house number 338 >> was Jesse’s sister Catherine Lea. >> >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >> p.28a, HN 336, FN 338 >> Lea Jesse L. 30 m w physician $1000 TN >> Harriet 34 f w VA >> Mary J. 2 f w " >> >> Dr. Jesse L. Lea is known to have arrived in Johnson County, Missouri >> in 1844. He married Harriet Tandy in 1846 in Johnson County. >> Despite the ditto marks in the census entry for their daughter Mary >> J. Lea, Mary J. was surely born in Missouri rather than in Virginia. >> The ages and the birth places of the children of John Wesley Peters >> and Kitty suggest that they also arrived in Missouri about 1844, so >> the families probably traveled together. >> >> Finally, old Rev. Robert H. Lea himself was also in the Washington >> Township of Johnson County in 1850, although he wasn’t living next >> door to the rest of the family. >> >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 17 Sep 1850 >> p.20a, HN 242, FN 243 >> Lea Robt. H. 55 m w M. clergyman $1000 NC >> Jane D. 54 f w VA >> Thomas 25 m w farmer TN >> Brunetta A. 20 f w TN >> Mary E. 17 f w TN >> Mirinda J. 15 f w TN >> >> So now that I seem to have found John W. Peters and Catherine Lea, >> which John Peters was he? My first reaction was that he had to have >> been #3 or #4, which is to say that he had to have been either >> Tobias’s son or grandson. The reason is that it was descendants of >> Tobias Sr. rather than descendants of Henry Sr. who seem to have >> interacted with the McCart family. >> >> Tobias Sr. and Henry Sr. both moved originally to the part of >> Anderson County that is called the Scarbrough community. Scarbrough >> is in the southwest corner of the county. Henry and his sons Henry >> Jr. and Thomas continued to live in Scarbrough. But Tobias purchased >> land that I believe was not in Scarbrough, but rather was on the >> northwest part of the county. I need to do some additional work to >> try to figure out exactly where Tobias’s land was, but it almost >> certainly was not in Scarbrough. I don’t find Tobias’s descendants >> in Scarbrough. For example, Tobias’s son James lived in Morgan >> County, not far across the county line from the northwest part of >> Anderson County. The McCarts were in the same part of Morgan County. >> >> But I ran into trouble trying to fit John W. Peters who married >> Catherine Lea into the Tobias Peters family. John W. Peters who >> married Catherine Lea was born about 1815. Most researchers list the >> birth date of John Peters #3 as about 1800. I’m not sure exactly >> where that date comes from. Tobias was married in 1797, his first >> son James was born in 1798, and John #3 was the second son. Maybe >> it’s only natural to assume that John was born in 1800. But the next >> known son was Wesley who was born in 1816. There were three >> daughters in between – Rebecca 1800/1803, Agnes 1805 (this is a >> guess), and Mary 1813. So John Peters #3 didn’t have to have been >> born in 1800; he could have been born considerably later. On the >> other hand, John Peters #3 and his brother James were named executors >> of their father’s will and guardians of their sister Rachel in 1831. >> So I think John Peters #3 was at least 21 years old in 1831, and >> therefore was born prior to 1810. >> >> By the same token, the earliest that John Peters #3 could have been >> born was 1800, so I think it would have been unlikely that he married >> and had a son by 1815. Women often married that young, but men >> seldom did. Therefore, I don't think that John Peters #3 or John >> Peters #4 could have been the John W. Peters who married Catherine >> Lea. >> >> That gets us back to the hypothetical John Peters #2, son of Henry >> Peters Jr. So it seems to me that John W. Peters born 1815 who >> married Catherine Lea and John W. Peters born 1822 who married Ruby >> Smith had to have been first cousins, with one of them being #2 son >> of Henry Peters Jr. and the other being #1 son of Thomas Peters. But >> which one was which? >> >> The Anderson County marriage book didn’t start until the 1830’s. We >> know from his War of 1812 pension application that Thomas Peters was >> married in 1812, so he could have been the father either of John W. >> Peters #1 or of #2. His first known child was Zipporah Peters born >> 1813/1814. It is not known when Henry Peters Jr. was married. He >> was born in about 1790 and his wife Jane England was born about 1800 >> (age 50 in the 1850 census). Jane would have been young in 1815 to >> have been the mother of the John W. Peters who married Catherine Lea, >> but it is far from impossible. Henry Jr.’s first known child was >> Mary Jane Peters born 1827. But there are definitely some gaps in >> the knowledge of Henry Jr.’s children. >> >> Here is the 1830 census entry for Thomas, with children placed >> according to my best current knowledge of the family. >> >> p.172, line 8, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 >> Thomas Peters 0120001-1211001 >> >> 00-04 0 1 1826-1830 Susan Peters >> 05-09 1 2 1821-1825 John W. Peters, Mary Peters >> 10-14 2 1 1816-1820 Henry Clark (Clark) Peters, William F. >> Peters, Jane Peters >> 15-19 0 1 1811-1815 Zipporah Peters >> 20-29 0 0 1801-1810 >> 30-39 0 0 1791-1800 >> 40-49 1 1 1781-1790 Thomas Peters, Sarah (Sallie) England >> >> Here is the 1830 census entry for Henry Jr. Note in particular the >> absence of any male born in the 1815 timeframe. >> >> p.172, line 10, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 >> Peters Henry 0200001-21001 >> >> 00-04 0 2 1826-1830 Mary Jane Peters >> 05-09 2 1 1821-1825 >> 10-14 0 0 1816-1820 >> 15-19 0 0 1811-1815 >> 20-29 0 1 1801-1810 Jane England >> 30-39 0 1791-1800 >> 40-49 1 1781-1790 Henry Peters Jr. >> >> And indeed, based on the ages of the children in this census entry, I >> list Henry Peters Jr. and Jane England as having been married about >> 1820, when Jane was about 20 years old. Well, it easily could have >> been 1818 or 1819 or so. >> >> Given these facts, I am forced to conclude that John W. Peters born >> about 1815 who married Catherine Lea was probably the son of Thomas >> Peters and Sarah (Sallie) England. Then, the only place I can put my >> John W. Peters born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith was as the son >> of Henry Peters Jr. and Jane England. This is certainly a >> revisionist history, although as I said the two John W. Peters in >> question were first cousins and the common ancestors in either case >> were Henry Peters Sr. and his wife Mary Wiatte. >> >> Let’s look again at John Wesley Peters and Catherine Lea in the 1850 >> census in Missouri. >> >> Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >> p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 >> Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN >> Kitty 28 f w TN >> Sarah 9 f w TN >> Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school >> Thomas S. 5 m w MO >> Mary L. A. 1 f w MO >> >> Robert W. Peters age 7 was surely named for his grandfather Rev. >> Robert H. Lea. But notice that there is a Sarah and a Thomas. It >> surely makes sense that Sarah age 9 was named for her grandmother >> Sarah (Sallie) England who married Thomas Peters, and that Thomas S. >> Peters age 5 was named for his grandfather Thomas Peters. The only >> child that doesn’t fit this pattern is Mary age 1 because Rev. Robert >> H. Lea’s wife was named Jane D. But perhaps there was a Jane Peters >> age 3 who died (note the gap between Thomas age 5 and Mary age 1). >> Perhaps Robert Lea’s wife was Mary Jane. Perhaps the family simply >> didn’t follow the naming pattern for the fourth child. Or perhaps >> this whole theory isn’t correct at all. But an extremely large >> number of the pieces fit extremely well. >> >> Finally, let’s return to the settlement of Ruby Smith Peters and look >> at why it suggests that John W. Peters born about 1822 was the son of >> Thomas Peters rather than the son of Henry Peters Jr. as I now >> believe. >> >> As I said, it was just an estate sale and in general does not provide >> a lot of genealogical information. The administrator was W.B. >> Peters. This was Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, oldest son of John >> W. Peters and Ruby Smith. But Blair Peters was already known to have >> been their son, even if the settlement didn’t exist. Many of the >> names of people purchasing items were just neighbors. Peters family >> members were as follows: >> >> * J.H. Peters (John Henry Peters, son of John W. Peters and Ruby >> Smith) >> * Alex Cross (William Alexander Cross, son of Alfred Carter Cross and >> Zipporah Peters and grandson of Thomas Peters) >> * F.A. Peters (Francis Asbury Peters, son of Henry Peters Jr.) >> * James Sample (James Samsel, husband of Mary J. Peters and >> son-in-law of John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) >> * P.W. Shannon (Preston William Shannon, husband of Sarah Emily >> Peters and son-in-law of Thomas Peters) >> * G.H. Peters (probably bad transcription, probably C.H. Peters – >> Henry Clark (Clark) Peters, son of either Thomas Peters or of Henry >> Peters Jr., there is conflicting evidence on this point) >> * A.C. Cross (Alfred Carter Cross, husband of Zipporah Peters and >> son-in-law of Thomas Peters) >> * W.B. Peters (the aforementioned Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, >> son of John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) >> * John Scarbrough (John W. Scarbrough, husband of Mary Peters and >> son-in-law of Thomas Peters) >> >> So there were definitely people associated with Henry Peters Jr. in >> the list in addition to people associated with Thomas Peters. And in >> any case, Henry Jr. and Thomas were brothers and they lived next door >> to each other. So they would have had the same friends, neighbors, >> and family. Looked at alone, I still believe that the settlement >> suggests that John W. Peters born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith >> was the son of Thomas Peters. But the settlement is not definitive, >> and I believe that the 1830 and 1850 census data along with the >> naming patterns of the children of John Wesley Peters and Catherine >> Lea force me to revise my history. >> >> By the way, I am still descended from Thomas Peters. In my previous >> history, I listed myself as descended from Thomas's children Zipporah >> Peters, Jane Peters, and John W. Peters. In my revisionist history, >> I list myself as descended from Thomas's daughters Zipporah Peters >> and Jane Peters, and from Henry Jr.'s son John W. Peters. Thomas and >> Henry Jr. were brothers, sons of Henry Peters Sr. >> >> Jerry Bryan > > > > ==== TNANDERS Mailing List ==== > Post your questions and inquiry about your Ancestor > regularly...Someone may find a relative. > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNANDERS >

Posse Hunts Killer Of Sheriffs Deputy CLINTON.Tenn. (AP) A former convict sought on a murder charge and the killing of a sheriff's deputy was the object of an intensive search today in east Tennessee. Police are seeking Clarence Leon Raby, 26, of near Knoxville, in the robbery-slaying of an Anderson County merchant and the killing of a Union County deputy sheriff. The merchant was slain July 7. The deputy was killed Monday. Another man was shot to death and his father wounded critically in an exchange of gunfire with police searching for Raby. Dan Cooper, 27, was killed and his father, Kaley Cooper, 52, was wounded by Knox County officers who were hunting for Raby with bloodhounds. Knox County Sheriff E.B. Bowles said four of his deputies felled the Coopers after the latter opened fire at the officers with a rifle and shotgun. The sheriff said Kaley Cooper,shot in the arm and chest, had been charged with felonious assault with intent to murder. Bowles said the Coopers, residents of the Heiskell community where Raby lives, had ambushed his officers. Heiskell is about 15 miles southeast of here. The elder Cooper, who underwent surgery at a Knoxville hospital, told police: "We thought you were Raby." But Chief Deputy Sheriff Jim Colquitt, one of the four officers, said the bloodhounds were baying and added: "I don't see how it was possible for them (the Coopers) to think the four of us were Raby." Authorities said Raby gunned down Ben DeVault, Union County deputy sheriff, after he and a brother, Lloyd, spotted the fugitive on a rural road 20 miles to the east. DeVault. 58. shot at Raby in a truck which the latter commandeered from Fred Rutherford, a farmer. Raby, armed with a pistol, felled the officer with a bullet in the head. The killer released Rutherford unharmed and later abandoned the truck on the outskirts of Knoxville, 25 miles to the southeast. Police there said a man answering Raby's description held up a couple outside a tavern, pistol whipped the woman and fled in their car. The car was found abandoned a few miles from Knoxville. Raby and another Knox County man, Billy McCoy, 22, have been charged with murder in the holdup-slaying of Frank C. Keith, 61, at his Andersonville, Tenn., store last month. Officers said two gunmen took about $1,000 from Keith before felling him with a shotgun blast. Raby has served a brief term in the state prison for theft. Police said he escaped from the Knox County workhouse near Knoxville the day before Keith was slain. He was serving a sentence on a drunken driving conviction. McCoy. who had been sentenced on a forgery charge, escaped with Raby Source: Stevens Point Daily Journal Stevens Point, Wisconsin August 2, 1960

Bullock Jimmy Daryl Bullock, age 21, 4184 Buchanan St., Gary, was accidentally killed Wednesday, October 2. Survivors: two daughters, Sherold Lynn, Dawn Denise, both at home; parents: Mr. and Mrs. Robert Bullock of Gary; two brothers, Bobbie Clark of Lake City, Tenn., Ferrel Trent, at home; one sister, Susan Ann, also at home; paternal grandfather, Silas Bullock of Lake City, Tenn., maternal grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Robert L. Foster, also of Lake City. Funeral services will be Saturday, October 5 at 1 p.m. at the Dellenbach Funeral Chapel, 2580 Colfax St., Gary (Black Oak). Rev. Otho Winningham officiating. Burial in Ridgelawn Cemetery. Friends may call Thursday, 7 to 10 p.m.; Friday, 2 to 5 and 7 to 10 p.m. He was an employee of Youngstown Sheet and Tube Co. October 4, 1968 Times, Hammond, Indiana

I posted the following to the Peters list at rootsweb over the weekend. I thought it might be interesting to a few people on the Anderson County list as well. There are a few parts I would probably have written slightly differently if the original intended audience had been the Anderson County list, but here it is just as I wrote it for the Peters list. Jerry Bryan >There are a lot of puzzles associated with men named John Peters in >Anderson County, Tennessee. I have posted about them several times before, >and now I have some new information. > >A basic working assumption is that all the Peters in Anderson County were >descended either from Henry Peters Sr. or Tobias Peters Sr. This >assumption seems to hold up at least from the arrival of Henry and Tobias >in Anderson County in 1797 until some other Peters lines showed up in >Anderson County in the late 19th century. I have never seen any evidence >that contradicts this working assumption. > >This working assumption limits the possibilities for who the various early >John Peters in Anderson County might have been. I think there are four >main possibilities. > >#1 Henry Peters Sr. -> Thomas Peters -> John Peters >#2 Henry Peters Sr. -> Henry Peters Jr. -> John Peters >#3 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters >#4 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters -> John Peters > >John Peters #3 is known to have existed from the will of Tobias Peters Sr. >and from deeds where the heirs of Tobias Peters Sr. sold his land after his >death. However, very little is known about John Peters #3, for example >whether he married or had children. Therefore, the existence of John >Peters #4 (son of John and grandson of Tobias Sr.) is highly speculative. >I include the possibility of John Peters #4 only for completeness and only >because there were so many John Peters that I need a place to put them all. > >John Peters #1 is known to exist from tax records and a deed. Thomas >Peters paid taxes on 134 + 50 acres in 1839. John W. Peters paid taxes on >134 + 50 acres in 1840. John W. Peters paid taxes on 184 acres in 1841. >John W. Peters and William Peters sold 184 acres to George W. Keith on 31 >Dec 1841. The land was adjacent to land of Thomas Peters. G.W. Keith paid >taxes on 184 acres in 1842. There was no extant deed that transferred the >land from Thomas Peters to John W. Peters and William Peters between 1839 >and 1840. Under these circumstances, I think it is extremely likely that >John W. Peters and William Peters were sons of Thomas Peters. > >The existence of John Peters #2 is speculative. But there were so many >John Peters, that #2 seems likely to me to have existed. See below for >more discussion on this point. > >There are a number of records about various John Peters, but the records >that interest me the most are two marriage records. John W. Peters married >Ruby Smith on 26 Jun 1840 in Anderson County. John W. Peters married >Catherine Lea on 26 Jan 1841 in Anderson County. But of #1, #2, #3, and >#4, which one married Ruby Smith and which one married Catherine Lea? > >I am descended from John W. Peters and Ruby Smith. My John W. Peters died >in 1861 in the Civil War, and my Ruby Smith died in 1867 in Anderson >County. Ruby filed for a widow’s Civil War pension before her death, and >one of her children filed for a Civil War pension after her death, based on >John’s very short Civil War service. These documents are very interesting >reading, but they do not provide any information about John’s ancestors. > >I have found no will or settlement for my John W. Peters. I have found an >1867 settlement for the widow Ruby Smith Peters. It really is just an >estate sale. But many of the names involved in the estate sale were >associated with Thomas Peters, suggesting that my John W. Peters was the >son of Thomas (and hence was John Peters #1). > >For many years, John W. Peters and Catherine Lea seemed to have vanished >from the face of the earth after their marriage. The only clue I had was >that there was a Robert H. Lea enumerated in the 1840 census for Anderson >County. I probably did not pursue this clue aggressively enough, because I >now believe that Catherine Lea was the daughter of Robert H. Lea. Here is >the 1840 census entry for Robert H. Lea as I currently have it transcribed. > >p.5a, line 14, 1840, Anderson County, Tennessee >Robt. H. Lea 0010101-0210201, 1 male slave 21-24, 10 people total, 4 in >agriculture > >00-04 0 0 1836-1840 >05-09 0 2 1831-1835 >10-14 1 1 1826-1830 >15-19 0 0 1821-1825 >20-29 1 2 1811-1820 Dr. Jesse L. Lea, Catherine Lea >30-39 0 0 1801-1810 >40-49 1 1 1791-1800 Rev. Robert H. Lea, Jane D. > >I believe this was the Rev. Robert H. Lea. One of his sons was Dr. Jesse >L. Lea, born in 1820 in Cocke County, Tennessee. The family was enumerated >in the 1830 census in Jefferson County, Tennessee. By 1840, they were >living in Anderson County, Tennessee where I believe Catherine met and >married John W. Peters. But I lost track of them after that. > >I now believe I have found them in Missouri. > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 >Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN > Kitty 28 f w TN > Sarah 9 f w TN > Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school > Thomas S. 5 m w MO > Mary L. A. 1 f w MO > >Kitty is a common nickname for Catherine, but that is not what persuaded me >this family was from Anderson County, Tennessee. After all, Tennessee is a >big state and John Wesley Peters of Johnson County, Missouri did not have >to have come to Missouri from Anderson County. What started to persuade me >is that living next door to John Wesley Peters and Kitty was Welcome >Raymond McCart and his wife Fanny. > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >p.28a, HN 337, FN 339 >McCart Welcome W. 27 m w farmer $125 TN > Fanny A. 26 f w TN > Mary L. M. 1 f w MO > >I don’t know who Fanny was, but Welcome McCart was the son of Robert McCart >Sr. and Hannah Peters. The family of Robert McCart Sr. was closely >connected to the Peters family. There’s the obvious connection that Robert >married Hannah Peters. I don’t know how Hannah fits into the families of >Tobias Peters Sr. or Henry Peters Sr. She could have been the sister of >one or the other of them (or both, since we don’t know for sure of Tobias >and Henry were brothers), or she could have been unrelated. But of more >import, Robert McCart’s daughter Rebecca married James Peters, son of >Tobias Peters Sr. And a probable son of Robert McCart, given name unknown, >married Agnes Peters, daughter of Tobias Peters Sr. (Tobias named a >daughter Agnes McCart in his will). > >But there’s more. Living next door to the McCarts was Dr. Jesse L. Lea, >son of Rev. Robert H. Lea. So surely, Kitty in house number 338 was >Jesse’s sister Catherine Lea. > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >p.28a, HN 336, FN 338 >Lea Jesse L. 30 m w physician $1000 TN > Harriet 34 f w VA > Mary J. 2 f w " > >Dr. Jesse L. Lea is known to have arrived in Johnson County, Missouri in >1844. He married Harriet Tandy in 1846 in Johnson County. Despite the >ditto marks in the census entry for their daughter Mary J. Lea, Mary J. was >surely born in Missouri rather than in Virginia. The ages and the birth >places of the children of John Wesley Peters and Kitty suggest that they >also arrived in Missouri about 1844, so the families probably traveled >together. > >Finally, old Rev. Robert H. Lea himself was also in the Washington Township >of Johnson County in 1850, although he wasn’t living next door to the rest >of the family. > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 17 Sep 1850 >p.20a, HN 242, FN 243 >Lea Robt. H. 55 m w M. clergyman $1000 NC > Jane D. 54 f w VA > Thomas 25 m w farmer TN > Brunetta A. 20 f w TN > Mary E. 17 f w TN > Mirinda J. 15 f w TN > >So now that I seem to have found John W. Peters and Catherine Lea, which >John Peters was he? My first reaction was that he had to have been #3 or >#4, which is to say that he had to have been either Tobias’s son or >grandson. The reason is that it was descendants of Tobias Sr. rather than >descendants of Henry Sr. who seem to have interacted with the McCart >family. > >Tobias Sr. and Henry Sr. both moved originally to the part of Anderson >County that is called the Scarbrough community. Scarbrough is in the >southwest corner of the county. Henry and his sons Henry Jr. and Thomas >continued to live in Scarbrough. But Tobias purchased land that I believe >was not in Scarbrough, but rather was on the northwest part of the county. >I need to do some additional work to try to figure out exactly where >Tobias’s land was, but it almost certainly was not in Scarbrough. I don’t >find Tobias’s descendants in Scarbrough. For example, Tobias’s son James >lived in Morgan County, not far across the county line from the northwest >part of Anderson County. The McCarts were in the same part of Morgan >County. > >But I ran into trouble trying to fit John W. Peters who married Catherine >Lea into the Tobias Peters family. John W. Peters who married Catherine >Lea was born about 1815. Most researchers list the birth date of John >Peters #3 as about 1800. I’m not sure exactly where that date comes from. >Tobias was married in 1797, his first son James was born in 1798, and John >#3 was the second son. Maybe it’s only natural to assume that John was >born in 1800. But the next known son was Wesley who was born in 1816. >There were three daughters in between – Rebecca 1800/1803, Agnes 1805 (this >is a guess), and Mary 1813. So John Peters #3 didn’t have to have been >born in 1800; he could have been born considerably later. On the other >hand, John Peters #3 and his brother James were named executors of their >father’s will and guardians of their sister Rachel in 1831. So I think >John Peters #3 was at least 21 years old in 1831, and therefore was born >prior to 1810. > >By the same token, the earliest that John Peters #3 could have been born >was 1800, so I think it would have been unlikely that he married and had a >son by 1815. Women often married that young, but men seldom did. >Therefore, I don't think that John Peters #3 or John Peters #4 could have >been the John W. Peters who married Catherine Lea. > >That gets us back to the hypothetical John Peters #2, son of Henry Peters >Jr. So it seems to me that John W. Peters born 1815 who married Catherine >Lea and John W. Peters born 1822 who married Ruby Smith had to have been >first cousins, with one of them being #2 son of Henry Peters Jr. and the >other being #1 son of Thomas Peters. But which one was which? > >The Anderson County marriage book didn’t start until the 1830’s. We know >from his War of 1812 pension application that Thomas Peters was married in >1812, so he could have been the father either of John W. Peters #1 or of >#2. His first known child was Zipporah Peters born 1813/1814. It is not >known when Henry Peters Jr. was married. He was born in about 1790 and his >wife Jane England was born about 1800 (age 50 in the 1850 census). Jane >would have been young in 1815 to have been the mother of the John W. Peters >who married Catherine Lea, but it is far from impossible. Henry Jr.’s >first known child was Mary Jane Peters born 1827. But there are definitely >some gaps in the knowledge of Henry Jr.’s children. > >Here is the 1830 census entry for Thomas, with children placed according to >my best current knowledge of the family. > >p.172, line 8, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 >Thomas Peters 0120001-1211001 > > 00-04 0 1 1826-1830 Susan Peters > 05-09 1 2 1821-1825 John W. Peters, Mary Peters > 10-14 2 1 1816-1820 Henry Clark (Clark) Peters, William F. Peters, >Jane Peters > 15-19 0 1 1811-1815 Zipporah Peters > 20-29 0 0 1801-1810 > 30-39 0 0 1791-1800 >40-49 1 1 1781-1790 Thomas Peters, Sarah (Sallie) England > >Here is the 1830 census entry for Henry Jr. Note in particular the absence >of any male born in the 1815 timeframe. > >p.172, line 10, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 >Peters Henry 0200001-21001 > > 00-04 0 2 1826-1830 Mary Jane Peters > 05-09 2 1 1821-1825 > 10-14 0 0 1816-1820 > 15-19 0 0 1811-1815 > 20-29 0 1 1801-1810 Jane England > 30-39 0 1791-1800 > 40-49 1 1781-1790 Henry Peters Jr. > >And indeed, based on the ages of the children in this census entry, I list >Henry Peters Jr. and Jane England as having been married about 1820, when >Jane was about 20 years old. Well, it easily could have been 1818 or 1819 >or so. > >Given these facts, I am forced to conclude that John W. Peters born about >1815 who married Catherine Lea was probably the son of Thomas Peters and >Sarah (Sallie) England. Then, the only place I can put my John W. Peters >born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith was as the son of Henry Peters Jr. >and Jane England. This is certainly a revisionist history, although as I >said the two John W. Peters in question were first cousins and the common >ancestors in either case were Henry Peters Sr. and his wife Mary Wiatte. > >Let’s look again at John Wesley Peters and Catherine Lea in the 1850 census >in Missouri. > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 >p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 >Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN > Kitty 28 f w TN > Sarah 9 f w TN > Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school > Thomas S. 5 m w MO > Mary L. A. 1 f w MO > >Robert W. Peters age 7 was surely named for his grandfather Rev. Robert H. >Lea. But notice that there is a Sarah and a Thomas. It surely makes sense >that Sarah age 9 was named for her grandmother Sarah (Sallie) England who >married Thomas Peters, and that Thomas S. Peters age 5 was named for his >grandfather Thomas Peters. The only child that doesn’t fit this pattern is >Mary age 1 because Rev. Robert H. Lea’s wife was named Jane D. But perhaps >there was a Jane Peters age 3 who died (note the gap between Thomas age 5 >and Mary age 1). Perhaps Robert Lea’s wife was Mary Jane. Perhaps the >family simply didn’t follow the naming pattern for the fourth child. Or >perhaps this whole theory isn’t correct at all. But an extremely large >number of the pieces fit extremely well. > >Finally, let’s return to the settlement of Ruby Smith Peters and look at >why it suggests that John W. Peters born about 1822 was the son of Thomas >Peters rather than the son of Henry Peters Jr. as I now believe. > >As I said, it was just an estate sale and in general does not provide a lot >of genealogical information. The administrator was W.B. Peters. This was >Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, oldest son of John W. Peters and Ruby >Smith. But Blair Peters was already known to have been their son, even if >the settlement didn’t exist. Many of the names of people purchasing items >were just neighbors. Peters family members were as follows: > >* J.H. Peters (John Henry Peters, son of John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) >* Alex Cross (William Alexander Cross, son of Alfred Carter Cross and >Zipporah Peters and grandson of Thomas Peters) >* F.A. Peters (Francis Asbury Peters, son of Henry Peters Jr.) >* James Sample (James Samsel, husband of Mary J. Peters and son-in-law of >John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) >* P.W. Shannon (Preston William Shannon, husband of Sarah Emily Peters and >son-in-law of Thomas Peters) >* G.H. Peters (probably bad transcription, probably C.H. Peters – Henry >Clark (Clark) Peters, son of either Thomas Peters or of Henry Peters Jr., >there is conflicting evidence on this point) >* A.C. Cross (Alfred Carter Cross, husband of Zipporah Peters and >son-in-law of Thomas Peters) >* W.B. Peters (the aforementioned Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, son of >John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) >* John Scarbrough (John W. Scarbrough, husband of Mary Peters and >son-in-law of Thomas Peters) > >So there were definitely people associated with Henry Peters Jr. in the >list in addition to people associated with Thomas Peters. And in any case, >Henry Jr. and Thomas were brothers and they lived next door to each other. >So they would have had the same friends, neighbors, and family. Looked at >alone, I still believe that the settlement suggests that John W. Peters >born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith was the son of Thomas Peters. But >the settlement is not definitive, and I believe that the 1830 and 1850 >census data along with the naming patterns of the children of John Wesley >Peters and Catherine Lea force me to revise my history. > >By the way, I am still descended from Thomas Peters. In my previous >history, I listed myself as descended from Thomas's children Zipporah >Peters, Jane Peters, and John W. Peters. In my revisionist history, I list >myself as descended from Thomas's daughters Zipporah Peters and Jane >Peters, and from Henry Jr.'s son John W. Peters. Thomas and Henry Jr. were >brothers, sons of Henry Peters Sr. > >Jerry Bryan

Jerry, That was just wonderful If I live to be 100 I could never do that research. Are you sure you don't want to move to Idaho ? I've hundreds of papers to go through and after 10 minutes I've forgotten who I'm looking for. Boy,you sure have patience. I wonder how good of friends if at all were John Wesley Peters & John Wesley Key were ? kind of made me think . I bet you have made many in the Peters line happy. I hope you recieved Effie's death certificate. Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Bryan" <c24m48@hotmail.com> To: <TNANDERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: [TNANDERS-L] FW: [PETERS] John Peters update, Anderson County, Tennessee > I posted the following to the Peters list at rootsweb over the weekend. I > thought it might be interesting to a few people on the Anderson County list > as well. There are a few parts I would probably have written slightly > differently if the original intended audience had been the Anderson County > list, but here it is just as I wrote it for the Peters list. > > Jerry Bryan > > > >There are a lot of puzzles associated with men named John Peters in > >Anderson County, Tennessee. I have posted about them several times before, > >and now I have some new information. > > > >A basic working assumption is that all the Peters in Anderson County were > >descended either from Henry Peters Sr. or Tobias Peters Sr. This > >assumption seems to hold up at least from the arrival of Henry and Tobias > >in Anderson County in 1797 until some other Peters lines showed up in > >Anderson County in the late 19th century. I have never seen any evidence > >that contradicts this working assumption. > > > >This working assumption limits the possibilities for who the various early > >John Peters in Anderson County might have been. I think there are four > >main possibilities. > > > >#1 Henry Peters Sr. -> Thomas Peters -> John Peters > >#2 Henry Peters Sr. -> Henry Peters Jr. -> John Peters > >#3 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters > >#4 Tobias Peters Sr. -> John Peters -> John Peters > > > >John Peters #3 is known to have existed from the will of Tobias Peters Sr. > >and from deeds where the heirs of Tobias Peters Sr. sold his land after his > >death. However, very little is known about John Peters #3, for example > >whether he married or had children. Therefore, the existence of John > >Peters #4 (son of John and grandson of Tobias Sr.) is highly speculative. > >I include the possibility of John Peters #4 only for completeness and only > >because there were so many John Peters that I need a place to put them all. > > > >John Peters #1 is known to exist from tax records and a deed. Thomas > >Peters paid taxes on 134 + 50 acres in 1839. John W. Peters paid taxes on > >134 + 50 acres in 1840. John W. Peters paid taxes on 184 acres in 1841. > >John W. Peters and William Peters sold 184 acres to George W. Keith on 31 > >Dec 1841. The land was adjacent to land of Thomas Peters. G.W. Keith paid > >taxes on 184 acres in 1842. There was no extant deed that transferred the > >land from Thomas Peters to John W. Peters and William Peters between 1839 > >and 1840. Under these circumstances, I think it is extremely likely that > >John W. Peters and William Peters were sons of Thomas Peters. > > > >The existence of John Peters #2 is speculative. But there were so many > >John Peters, that #2 seems likely to me to have existed. See below for > >more discussion on this point. > > > >There are a number of records about various John Peters, but the records > >that interest me the most are two marriage records. John W. Peters married > >Ruby Smith on 26 Jun 1840 in Anderson County. John W. Peters married > >Catherine Lea on 26 Jan 1841 in Anderson County. But of #1, #2, #3, and > >#4, which one married Ruby Smith and which one married Catherine Lea? > > > >I am descended from John W. Peters and Ruby Smith. My John W. Peters died > >in 1861 in the Civil War, and my Ruby Smith died in 1867 in Anderson > >County. Ruby filed for a widow's Civil War pension before her death, and > >one of her children filed for a Civil War pension after her death, based on > >John's very short Civil War service. These documents are very interesting > >reading, but they do not provide any information about John's ancestors. > > > >I have found no will or settlement for my John W. Peters. I have found an > >1867 settlement for the widow Ruby Smith Peters. It really is just an > >estate sale. But many of the names involved in the estate sale were > >associated with Thomas Peters, suggesting that my John W. Peters was the > >son of Thomas (and hence was John Peters #1). > > > >For many years, John W. Peters and Catherine Lea seemed to have vanished > >from the face of the earth after their marriage. The only clue I had was > >that there was a Robert H. Lea enumerated in the 1840 census for Anderson > >County. I probably did not pursue this clue aggressively enough, because I > >now believe that Catherine Lea was the daughter of Robert H. Lea. Here is > >the 1840 census entry for Robert H. Lea as I currently have it transcribed. > > > >p.5a, line 14, 1840, Anderson County, Tennessee > >Robt. H. Lea 0010101-0210201, 1 male slave 21-24, 10 people total, 4 in > >agriculture > > > >00-04 0 0 1836-1840 > >05-09 0 2 1831-1835 > >10-14 1 1 1826-1830 > >15-19 0 0 1821-1825 > >20-29 1 2 1811-1820 Dr. Jesse L. Lea, Catherine Lea > >30-39 0 0 1801-1810 > >40-49 1 1 1791-1800 Rev. Robert H. Lea, Jane D. > > > >I believe this was the Rev. Robert H. Lea. One of his sons was Dr. Jesse > >L. Lea, born in 1820 in Cocke County, Tennessee. The family was enumerated > >in the 1830 census in Jefferson County, Tennessee. By 1840, they were > >living in Anderson County, Tennessee where I believe Catherine met and > >married John W. Peters. But I lost track of them after that. > > > >I now believe I have found them in Missouri. > > > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 > >Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN > > Kitty 28 f w TN > > Sarah 9 f w TN > > Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school > > Thomas S. 5 m w MO > > Mary L. A. 1 f w MO > > > >Kitty is a common nickname for Catherine, but that is not what persuaded me > >this family was from Anderson County, Tennessee. After all, Tennessee is a > >big state and John Wesley Peters of Johnson County, Missouri did not have > >to have come to Missouri from Anderson County. What started to persuade me > >is that living next door to John Wesley Peters and Kitty was Welcome > >Raymond McCart and his wife Fanny. > > > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >p.28a, HN 337, FN 339 > >McCart Welcome W. 27 m w farmer $125 TN > > Fanny A. 26 f w TN > > Mary L. M. 1 f w MO > > > >I don't know who Fanny was, but Welcome McCart was the son of Robert McCart > >Sr. and Hannah Peters. The family of Robert McCart Sr. was closely > >connected to the Peters family. There's the obvious connection that Robert > >married Hannah Peters. I don't know how Hannah fits into the families of > >Tobias Peters Sr. or Henry Peters Sr. She could have been the sister of > >one or the other of them (or both, since we don't know for sure of Tobias > >and Henry were brothers), or she could have been unrelated. But of more > >import, Robert McCart's daughter Rebecca married James Peters, son of > >Tobias Peters Sr. And a probable son of Robert McCart, given name unknown, > >married Agnes Peters, daughter of Tobias Peters Sr. (Tobias named a > >daughter Agnes McCart in his will). > > > >But there's more. Living next door to the McCarts was Dr. Jesse L. Lea, > >son of Rev. Robert H. Lea. So surely, Kitty in house number 338 was > >Jesse's sister Catherine Lea. > > > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >p.28a, HN 336, FN 338 > >Lea Jesse L. 30 m w physician $1000 TN > > Harriet 34 f w VA > > Mary J. 2 f w " > > > >Dr. Jesse L. Lea is known to have arrived in Johnson County, Missouri in > >1844. He married Harriet Tandy in 1846 in Johnson County. Despite the > >ditto marks in the census entry for their daughter Mary J. Lea, Mary J. was > >surely born in Missouri rather than in Virginia. The ages and the birth > >places of the children of John Wesley Peters and Kitty suggest that they > >also arrived in Missouri about 1844, so the families probably traveled > >together. > > > >Finally, old Rev. Robert H. Lea himself was also in the Washington Township > >of Johnson County in 1850, although he wasn't living next door to the rest > >of the family. > > > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 17 Sep 1850 > >p.20a, HN 242, FN 243 > >Lea Robt. H. 55 m w M. clergyman $1000 NC > > Jane D. 54 f w VA > > Thomas 25 m w farmer TN > > Brunetta A. 20 f w TN > > Mary E. 17 f w TN > > Mirinda J. 15 f w TN > > > >So now that I seem to have found John W. Peters and Catherine Lea, which > >John Peters was he? My first reaction was that he had to have been #3 or > >#4, which is to say that he had to have been either Tobias's son or > >grandson. The reason is that it was descendants of Tobias Sr. rather than > >descendants of Henry Sr. who seem to have interacted with the McCart > >family. > > > >Tobias Sr. and Henry Sr. both moved originally to the part of Anderson > >County that is called the Scarbrough community. Scarbrough is in the > >southwest corner of the county. Henry and his sons Henry Jr. and Thomas > >continued to live in Scarbrough. But Tobias purchased land that I believe > >was not in Scarbrough, but rather was on the northwest part of the county. > >I need to do some additional work to try to figure out exactly where > >Tobias's land was, but it almost certainly was not in Scarbrough. I don't > >find Tobias's descendants in Scarbrough. For example, Tobias's son James > >lived in Morgan County, not far across the county line from the northwest > >part of Anderson County. The McCarts were in the same part of Morgan > >County. > > > >But I ran into trouble trying to fit John W. Peters who married Catherine > >Lea into the Tobias Peters family. John W. Peters who married Catherine > >Lea was born about 1815. Most researchers list the birth date of John > >Peters #3 as about 1800. I'm not sure exactly where that date comes from. > >Tobias was married in 1797, his first son James was born in 1798, and John > >#3 was the second son. Maybe it's only natural to assume that John was > >born in 1800. But the next known son was Wesley who was born in 1816. > >There were three daughters in between - Rebecca 1800/1803, Agnes 1805 (this > >is a guess), and Mary 1813. So John Peters #3 didn't have to have been > >born in 1800; he could have been born considerably later. On the other > >hand, John Peters #3 and his brother James were named executors of their > >father's will and guardians of their sister Rachel in 1831. So I think > >John Peters #3 was at least 21 years old in 1831, and therefore was born > >prior to 1810. > > > >By the same token, the earliest that John Peters #3 could have been born > >was 1800, so I think it would have been unlikely that he married and had a > >son by 1815. Women often married that young, but men seldom did. > >Therefore, I don't think that John Peters #3 or John Peters #4 could have > >been the John W. Peters who married Catherine Lea. > > > >That gets us back to the hypothetical John Peters #2, son of Henry Peters > >Jr. So it seems to me that John W. Peters born 1815 who married Catherine > >Lea and John W. Peters born 1822 who married Ruby Smith had to have been > >first cousins, with one of them being #2 son of Henry Peters Jr. and the > >other being #1 son of Thomas Peters. But which one was which? > > > >The Anderson County marriage book didn't start until the 1830's. We know > >from his War of 1812 pension application that Thomas Peters was married in > >1812, so he could have been the father either of John W. Peters #1 or of > >#2. His first known child was Zipporah Peters born 1813/1814. It is not > >known when Henry Peters Jr. was married. He was born in about 1790 and his > >wife Jane England was born about 1800 (age 50 in the 1850 census). Jane > >would have been young in 1815 to have been the mother of the John W. Peters > >who married Catherine Lea, but it is far from impossible. Henry Jr.'s > >first known child was Mary Jane Peters born 1827. But there are definitely > >some gaps in the knowledge of Henry Jr.'s children. > > > >Here is the 1830 census entry for Thomas, with children placed according to > >my best current knowledge of the family. > > > >p.172, line 8, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 > >Thomas Peters 0120001-1211001 > > > > 00-04 0 1 1826-1830 Susan Peters > > 05-09 1 2 1821-1825 John W. Peters, Mary Peters > > 10-14 2 1 1816-1820 Henry Clark (Clark) Peters, William F. Peters, > >Jane Peters > > 15-19 0 1 1811-1815 Zipporah Peters > > 20-29 0 0 1801-1810 > > 30-39 0 0 1791-1800 > >40-49 1 1 1781-1790 Thomas Peters, Sarah (Sallie) England > > > >Here is the 1830 census entry for Henry Jr. Note in particular the absence > >of any male born in the 1815 timeframe. > > > >p.172, line 10, Anderson County, Tennessee, 1830 > >Peters Henry 0200001-21001 > > > > 00-04 0 2 1826-1830 Mary Jane Peters > > 05-09 2 1 1821-1825 > > 10-14 0 0 1816-1820 > > 15-19 0 0 1811-1815 > > 20-29 0 1 1801-1810 Jane England > > 30-39 0 1791-1800 > > 40-49 1 1781-1790 Henry Peters Jr. > > > >And indeed, based on the ages of the children in this census entry, I list > >Henry Peters Jr. and Jane England as having been married about 1820, when > >Jane was about 20 years old. Well, it easily could have been 1818 or 1819 > >or so. > > > >Given these facts, I am forced to conclude that John W. Peters born about > >1815 who married Catherine Lea was probably the son of Thomas Peters and > >Sarah (Sallie) England. Then, the only place I can put my John W. Peters > >born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith was as the son of Henry Peters Jr. > >and Jane England. This is certainly a revisionist history, although as I > >said the two John W. Peters in question were first cousins and the common > >ancestors in either case were Henry Peters Sr. and his wife Mary Wiatte. > > > >Let's look again at John Wesley Peters and Catherine Lea in the 1850 census > >in Missouri. > > > >Washington Twp, Johnson County, Missouri, 23 Sep 1850 > >p.28a, HN 338, FN 340 > >Peters John Westley 35 m w farmer $500 TN > > Kitty 28 f w TN > > Sarah 9 f w TN > > Robert W. 7 m w TN attended school > > Thomas S. 5 m w MO > > Mary L. A. 1 f w MO > > > >Robert W. Peters age 7 was surely named for his grandfather Rev. Robert H. > >Lea. But notice that there is a Sarah and a Thomas. It surely makes sense > >that Sarah age 9 was named for her grandmother Sarah (Sallie) England who > >married Thomas Peters, and that Thomas S. Peters age 5 was named for his > >grandfather Thomas Peters. The only child that doesn't fit this pattern is > >Mary age 1 because Rev. Robert H. Lea's wife was named Jane D. But perhaps > >there was a Jane Peters age 3 who died (note the gap between Thomas age 5 > >and Mary age 1). Perhaps Robert Lea's wife was Mary Jane. Perhaps the > >family simply didn't follow the naming pattern for the fourth child. Or > >perhaps this whole theory isn't correct at all. But an extremely large > >number of the pieces fit extremely well. > > > >Finally, let's return to the settlement of Ruby Smith Peters and look at > >why it suggests that John W. Peters born about 1822 was the son of Thomas > >Peters rather than the son of Henry Peters Jr. as I now believe. > > > >As I said, it was just an estate sale and in general does not provide a lot > >of genealogical information. The administrator was W.B. Peters. This was > >Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, oldest son of John W. Peters and Ruby > >Smith. But Blair Peters was already known to have been their son, even if > >the settlement didn't exist. Many of the names of people purchasing items > >were just neighbors. Peters family members were as follows: > > > >* J.H. Peters (John Henry Peters, son of John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) > >* Alex Cross (William Alexander Cross, son of Alfred Carter Cross and > >Zipporah Peters and grandson of Thomas Peters) > >* F.A. Peters (Francis Asbury Peters, son of Henry Peters Jr.) > >* James Sample (James Samsel, husband of Mary J. Peters and son-in-law of > >John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) > >* P.W. Shannon (Preston William Shannon, husband of Sarah Emily Peters and > >son-in-law of Thomas Peters) > >* G.H. Peters (probably bad transcription, probably C.H. Peters - Henry > >Clark (Clark) Peters, son of either Thomas Peters or of Henry Peters Jr., > >there is conflicting evidence on this point) > >* A.C. Cross (Alfred Carter Cross, husband of Zipporah Peters and > >son-in-law of Thomas Peters) > >* W.B. Peters (the aforementioned Washington Blair (Blair) Peters, son of > >John W. Peters and Ruby Smith) > >* John Scarbrough (John W. Scarbrough, husband of Mary Peters and > >son-in-law of Thomas Peters) > > > >So there were definitely people associated with Henry Peters Jr. in the > >list in addition to people associated with Thomas Peters. And in any case, > >Henry Jr. and Thomas were brothers and they lived next door to each other. > >So they would have had the same friends, neighbors, and family. Looked at > >alone, I still believe that the settlement suggests that John W. Peters > >born about 1822 who married Ruby Smith was the son of Thomas Peters. But > >the settlement is not definitive, and I believe that the 1830 and 1850 > >census data along with the naming patterns of the children of John Wesley > >Peters and Catherine Lea force me to revise my history. > > > >By the way, I am still descended from Thomas Peters. In my previous > >history, I listed myself as descended from Thomas's children Zipporah > >Peters, Jane Peters, and John W. Peters. In my revisionist history, I list > >myself as descended from Thomas's daughters Zipporah Peters and Jane > >Peters, and from Henry Jr.'s son John W. Peters. Thomas and Henry Jr. were > >brothers, sons of Henry Peters Sr. > > > >Jerry Bryan > > > > ==== TNANDERS Mailing List ==== > Post your questions and inquiry about your Ancestor regularly...Someone may find a relative. > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNANDERS > >

Many of you have asked where I am getting the information from re articles I've posted. Some of these I've found just searching the internet; others from the newspaper archives at ancestry.com; Ancestry only has the Kingsport Times for Tenn; but there is still a wealth of info from other states; especially if the news went national. Angela

4 OF FAMILY KILLED IN CRASH FATAL TO 5 Louisville, Ky., Nov. 26 (AP) Five persons, Including four members of a Peoria, III., family, were killed near midnight last night In a two-car collision. Police identified the dead as Ralph K, Braden, 23, of Peoria. his wife, about 24, their daughter, Janice Jay, three; their son, Dennis Michael, six months, and Cecil V. Redman of Taylorsville, Ky. At least flve other persons were injured. They were identified as Owen L. Duncan, 25, of Peoria, his wife, 21; their daughters, Jeannie, four, and Terry, I8 months, and Ted Goodlet, about 25, of Mount Eden, Ky. The Ducans and Bradens were riding together in route to Peoria after a Thanksgiving holiday in Oliver Springs, Tenn. Both families had lived in Oliver Springs until Duncan and Braden obtained work recently in a Peoria factory. None of the survivors was able immediately to describe the accident. Source: Bridgeport Telegram, Bridgeport, Conn., 11/28/1956

From the Knoxville News sentinel 6 Dec 2004 GOINS, EURETHA - age 88 of LaFollette, GOINS, EURETHA - age 88 of LaFollette, passed away Saturday, December 4, 2004, at St. Mary's Health & Rehab Center in LaFollette. She was a member of the East LaFollette Baptist Church and retired from Imperial Reading Corporation with over 40 years of service. Survivors: daughter and son-in-law, Yvonne and Paul Tiller, of LaFollette; special granddaughter and grandson-in-law, Brenda and Bobby Hicks, of LaFollette; special great- granddaughter and great-grandson-in-law, Kelli and Brent Pickett; special great-great-grandson, Jackson Cole Pickett, all of Chattanooga; sister, Sue Chapman of LaFollette; several nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Funeral services Monday 8 p.m. at Walters Chapel with Rev. David Hicks and Rev. Danny King officiating. The family will receive friends from 6 to 8 p.m. Monday before services at Walters Funeral Home. Family and friends will meet 10 a.m. Tuesday at Bakers Forge Cemetery for graveside services and interment. Walters Funeral Home of LaFollette is honored to be serving the family of Euretha Goins. =========================================== SUPPORT OUR TROOPS---FLY THE FLAG "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek. They hide I seek!!! www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE/BUNCH/DAUGHERTY/DUNCAN/KENNEDY/ PATTERSON/PHILLIPS/SEIBER/TACKETT/WARD

Mine Boss Killed By Sniper's Shot LAKE CITY, Tenn. (&) A sniper's bullet killed a coal mine owner Monday as he worked his machinery on a federal flood control project here in defiance of threats of sabotage or death. Five persons were questioned at length in the slaying of Jess Fesler, 53. of Sunbright, Tenn., shot in the back as he stood beside his bulldozer on the project near the Lake City High School. Anderson County Sheriff Glad Woodward questioned two of the men in Clinton, south of Lake City, and Campbell County Sheriff Rose Kitts held three men for questioning in Jacksboro. Lake City is located on the Anderson - Campbell county line about 30 miles northwest of Knoxville. It is in the .coal-field area extending through southeast Kentucky and northern Tennessee. The area has seen numerous cases of violence since the United Mine Workers began a drive to bring all mines under union contract. Three persons have been killed in Ketucky. Sheriff Woodward said, however. "We are positive this shooting is in no way concerned with union troubles." Source: Oswego Pallendium Times, Oswego, New York, 6/9/1959 Sniper Kills FormerCoal Mine Owner LAKE CITY,Tenn. (AP)A sniper's bullet killed a former coal miner owner Monday as he worked his machinery on a federal flood control project here in defiance of threats of sabotage or death. Five persons were questioned at length in the slaying of Jess Fesler, 53, of Sunbright,Tenn., shot in the back as he stood beside his bulldozer on the project near the Lake City High School. Anderson County Sheriff Glad Woodward questioned two of the men in Clinton, South of Lake City. and Campbell County Sheriff Rose Kitts held three men for questioning in Jacksboro. Lake Cityi s located on the Anderson Campbell county line about 30 miles northwest of Knoxville. It is in the coalfield area extending through southeast Kentucky and northern Tennessee. The area has seen numerous cases of violence since the United Mine Workers began a drive to bring all mines under union contract. Three persons have been killed in Kentucky. Sheriff Woodward said, however, "We are positive this shooting is in no way concerned with union troubles." Sued For 534,111 The UMW welfare fund sued Fesler in 1957 for $34,111 it claimed he owed for back contributions to the fund. He filed a crossbill contending he had signed the union contract under duress. However,Woodward said he is probing mainly in other directions for possible motives. Among other things, the sheriff said. Fesler: 1. Was the complaining witness in an armed robbery case against Franklin D. Smith, which was to have been heard by the Campbell County grand jury next week. 2. Had been seen frequently with women other than his wife. Source: Lancaster Eagle Gazette, Lancaster, Ohio, 6/9/1959

Glenn H. Kesterson Glenn H. Kesterson, 80, of Louisville, passed away Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at Rockford Manor Nursing Home. He was a retired maintenance worker in the battery division at Johnson Controls. Survivors include his wife, Dorothy Kesterson; one daughter, Shirley (Tony) Knight; two sons, Troy (Anita) Kesterson and Roy (Lori) Kesterson; seven grandchildren; and six great-grandchildren. Funeral services will be held in Tennessee, with burial in Oak Grove Cemetery in Lake City, TN. Visitation will be from 3-8 p.m. Wednesday at Arch L. Heady & Son, Okolona. Published in The Courier-Journal on 3/10/2004. Louisville, Kentucky Note: Does anyone have his date of birth? All I have is 1923; son of Troy Robert Kesterson and Verna May Kidwell

From the Knoxville News sentinel 5 Dec 2004 NEWPORT, FLORA - age 79 of Harriman PHILLIPS, TORA KAY - age 9 of Kingston RUBLE, GEORGE HARVEY, JR. - age 60, of Clinton, SEXTON, MR. WADE M. - age 48, STOKES, LENA LOIS "COLLINS" - age 96, of Clinton, WISE, BOBBY - age 63 of Clinton, TN NEWPORT, FLORA - age 79 of Harriman passed away Friday December 3, 2004 at Ft Sanders Select Specialty Hospital in Knoxville. Preceded in death by her parents, two brothers and one sister. She was retired from Burlington Hosiery Mill after more than 25 years of service. She enjoyed making quilts & loved to cook for her family. Survivors sister, Mamie C. Newport of Harriman; brothers, Arthur Newport of Harriman, Barney Newport & wife Geneva of Charleston, Tn; numerous nieces & nephews. Funeral 8:00 P.M. Sunday at Kyker Funeral Home Chapel in Harriman with Pastor Willard Gunter officiating. Interment 11:00 AM Monday at Roane Memorial Gardens. The family will receive friends from 6 to 8 PM Sunday at Kyker Funeral Home in Harriman. www.kykerfuneralhome.com PHILLIPS, TORA KAY - age 9 of Kingston passed away Wednesday December 1, 2004 at Vanderbilt Hospital in Nashville. She was a member of Bethel Presbyterian Church. Preceded in death great grandfathers Thomas Wright, Henry Wright, John Phillips, Johnny Martin, great aunt Sue Stewart, great great aunt Jo Phillips. Survivors: parents: Rick and Shane Phillips; sister: Brandi Phillips all of Kingston; grandparents: Jack and Vickie Phillips of Spring City, Kay and Shorty Wright of Harriman, Bobbie and Bill Finger of Lenoir City; aunt: Scott and Julie McGill; beloved cousins: Jared and Thomas McGill all of Kingston, Amanda Brown of Oak Ridge. Funeral 1 pm Tuesday December 7, 2004 at the Bethel Presbyterian Church with Rev. Marc Sherrod officiating. Burial in New Midway Cemetery. The family will receive friends from 5 until 9 pm Monday at the Kyker Funeral Home in Kingston.www.kykerfuneralhome.com RUBLE, GEORGE HARVEY, JR. - age 60, of Clinton, passed away Saturday, December 4, 2004 at Methodist Medical Center. He was a member of Christus Victor Lutheran Church in Knoxville, Tennessee. He was a member of the United States Marine Corps. He worked as a clerk with the United States Postal Service in Oak Ridge. Preceded in death by parents, George H. Ruble Sr. & Nelda Mae Walker Ruble; sister, Jaime Phillips. Survivors: wife, Mary Beth Ruble of Clinton; daughters, Brandi Ruble of Clinton, Amanda "Mandi" Walters of Clinton, Kelley Richardson of Oak Ridge; brother, Stephen & wife Susan Ruble of Knoxville; grandchildren, Spencer & Cuyler Walters, Seth Richardson. The family will receive friends 5:00-7:00 PM, Monday, December 6, 2004 at Holley-Gamble Funeral Home. The graveside service will be 10:00 AM, Tuesday at Anderson Memorial Garden with Rev. Steve Ruble & Rev. Frank Cannon officiating. Holley- Gamble Funeral Home in Clinton is in charge of all arrangements. SEXTON, MR. WADE M. - age 48, passed away Friday, December 3rd, 2004, at his home in Wartburg. Wade was a member of the St. Paul's Lutheran Church. Preceded in death by his father, Donald C. Sexton, sister, Donna Sexton McCray. He is survived by his son; Alexander Sexton, of Wartburg; mother; Vera Heidel Sexton, of Wartburg; brother; Gary Sexton, of Signal Mtn., Tenn.; sisters; Sharon Brightwell, of Orlando, Fla., Marie Sexton, of Knoxville, Tn; aunts; Georgia Mae Coffman and Elsie Murphy, both of Wartburg, Tenn. The family will receive friends Sunday afternoon, December 5th, 2004 from 1 to 3 p.m. at Schubert Funeral Home in Wartburg. Funeral services will follow at 3:00 p.m., with Rev. Robert Pfaff officiating. Interment will follow in the Morgan Memorial Gardens, Wartburg, Tenn.. STOKES, LENA LOIS "COLLINS" - age 96, of Clinton, passed away Friday, December 3, 2004 at Methodist Medical Center. She was born October 30, 1908 in Campbell County, she lived in Clinton since 1943. She was a member of Second Baptist Church in Clinton for 52 years and also a Sunday school teacher. She loved gardening and planting flowers and watching them grow. Preceded in death by husband, Z. William Stokes; parents, Joseph Uriah and Emma Florence Collins and step-mother, Martha Collins; daughter, Lena Shirley Stokes that died in 1939; brothers, Hobart, Homer and Goebel Collins; sisters, Goldie Ridenour, Gertrude Sharp and Verdie Collins who died earlier. Survivors: daughters, Mary June & husband Max O. Burris of Meridian, MS, Wanda Sue & husband Troy Estes of Harriman; sons, Norris H. & Angela Stokes of Phoenix, AZ, William A. & wife Hazel Stokes of Clinton, Jerry A. Stokes & Diane of Kingston; 13 grandchildren; 21 great grandchildren; 2 honorary grandchildren, Daryl & Jason Phillips of Memphis; sisters, Estella Melton, Evelyn Melton; brother, James Virgil Collins; several nieces and nephews. The family will receive friends 5:00-7:00 PM, Monday, December 6, 2004 at Holley-Gamble Funeral Home with funeral services following in the chapel with Rev. George Williams and Rev. Mike Thompson officiating. The graveside will be 11:00 AM, Tuesday at Norris Memorial Garden. Holley-Gamble Funeral Home in Clinton is in charge of all arrangements. WISE, BOBBY - age 63 of Clinton, TN passed away Friday, December 3, 2004 at Fort Sanders Regional in Knoxville, TN. The family will receive friends 6:00-8:00 pm Sunday, December 5, 2004 at Jones Mortuary. A graveside service will be 2:00 pm Monday at Sunset Cemetery in Clinton, TN with the Rev. Terry Wise & Rev. Burl Covington officiating. 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Frpm The LaFollette Press 2 Dec 2004 Carl Ethredge Baird, age 65 of Jellico Nannie Caldwell, age 83 of LaFollette Floyd Cinnamon, age 77 of LaFollette Jimmy R. Cooper, age 70 of Jellico Mary Cooper, age 77 of LaFollette, Stephen Hill Duncan, age 49 of Phoenix, AZ Elizabeth Libby Goins, age 57 of LaFollette Kenith Eugene Elliott, age 74 of Jellico Harry Grinderslev, age 51 of Cosby Nell Hampton, age 82 of LaFollette Ellie Mae Hickman, age 60 of LaFollette Novella Hunley, age 78 of Jacksboro Wiley McCloud, age 79 of Jacksboro Lorna Dean Ridenour, age 73 of St. Clair Shores, MI James Silcox, age 76 of LaFollette Burgin Stepp, age 69 of Caryville Johnson Taylor (J.T.) Young, age 85 of LaFollette, Carl Ethredge Baird, age 65 of Jellico died Nov. 23 at Methodist Medical Center of Oak Ridge following a brief illness. He was born in Pineville, WV, the son of Glen Carlton Baird and the late Carrie Edith Baird of Jellico. He was a long time resident of Jellico and a member of the First Baptist Church of Jellico. He is survived by his wife, Barbara Baird of Jellico; sons and daughters-in-law Glenn and Judy Baird of LaFollette, Duane and Barb Baird of Moreno, CA.; brothers and sisters-in-law Thurman and Tracey Baird of LaFollette, Greg and JoAnn Baird of Corbin, KY.; sister and brother-in-law Glenda and Randy Brewster of Jellico; three grandsons; one granddaughter; one great-grandson; many nieces and nephews. The family plans a private graveside service at a later date. Arrangements by Cremation Options, Inc. Nannie Caldwell, age 83 of LaFollette died Nov. 22 at the St. Mary's Medical Center of Campbell County. She was of the Baptist Faith. She had a home for the elderly people and raised several children.She was preceded in death by her husbands, James Carroll and Ledford Caldwell; two sons; James Jackie and Taylor Ray Carroll; two infant daughters; two brothers, Murphy and Kenneth York. She is survived by her daughter, Bonnie Bell Carroll of Jellico; grandchildren, Jr. Carroll of LaFollette, Joey, Selena, Sybil, Sally, De De, Jasper, Casper and Poss; great grandson: Kasey Jr.; sister, Georgia York of LaFollette; several nieces and nephews and a host of other relatives and friends. Funeral services were Nov. 26 in the Chapel of Martin Wilson Funeral Home with Rev. Charles Sparks officiating. Interment was in Jellico Cemetery. Martin Wilson Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Floyd Cinnamon, age 77 of LaFollette died Nov. 30 at the St. Mary's Medical Center in Campbell County. He was of the Baptist faith. He was a loving father, grandfather, and great grandfather who enjoyed spending time with his family and friends. He also enjoyed the outdoors and playing a guitar. He was preceded in death by his wife, Shirley Shelby Cinnamon; parents, John Henry and Eza Emmitt Cinnamon; brother, Edward Cinnamon; sister, Joyce Green. He is survived by his son, John Cinnamon of Knoxville; daughters and sons in law, Linda and Jimmy Gibson and Barbara and Jimmy Brantley all of LaFollette; four grandchildren, Mark, Ashley, Jeff Cinnamon and Cristie Damron; three great grandchildren, James Keith, Ivey, and Cheyenne Damron; very special nephew, Jimmy Cinnamon of Texas; a host of other relatives and friends. Funeral Services will be at 8 p.m. on Dec. 2 in Martin Wilson Chapel. Interment will be at 11 a.m., Dec. 3 in Davis Chapel Cemetery. The family will receive friends from 6 to 8 p.m., Dec. 2 before funeral services. Martin Wilson Funeral Home is in charge of the arrangements. Jimmy R. Cooper, age 70 of Jellico died Nov. 28 at the University of Tennessee Medical Center in Knoxville as the result of an automobile accident. He was a Funeral Director Assistant with over 50 years service. He also worked in Ideal Florist with his sister, Doris and nephew, Allen. He was a member of the Jellico United Methodist Church. He is survived by his sister, Vagel Rush of LaFollette; several nieces and nephews and a host of friends. Funeral services were Nov. 30 in the Llewellyn Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. John and Ginger Richardson officiating. Interment was in the Douglas Cemetery. Llewellyn Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Mary Cooper, age 77 of LaFollette, died Nov. 25, at Heritage Hospital in Taylor, MI. She was a member of First Apostolic Church of LaFollette. She was preceded in death by her husband, Charles Cooper, and her parents, Robert and Ethel Gahl. she is survived by her children, Jerry Diyer of Bedford, TX, Norma Jean Burkeen of Taylor, MI, Charles R. Cooper of LaFollette, and Elizabeth Jane Balddridge of Ringgold, GA; 11 grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren; sisters, Ivana Epps of Laketon, IN and Eugena Harvey of Servia, IN; brothers, Harold Heffern of Danville, IL, Robert Gahl, Rodney Gahl, and Ezra Gahl all of Wabash, IN, Leslie Gahl of Ft. Wayne, IN, and Emery Gahl of North Manchester, IN; several nieces, nephews other relatives and friends. Funeral services were Nov. 30 at Walters Chapel with Rev. David Akers officiating. Interment was in Sunrise Cemetery. Walters Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Stephen Hill Duncan, age 49 of Phoenix, AZ died Nov. 22 after a courageous battle with Multiple Sclerosis. He was born in LaFollette and graduated from LaFollette High School Class of 1973 with honors and East Tennessee State University. After moving to Phoenix, he held the position of Consumer Credit Manager with First Federal Savings and Loan which became Bank of America. After retirement, he was a volunteer at the Franciscan Renewal Center. He was preceded in death by his grandparents, Lindzy and Mary Alice Duncan, Pete and Jeanette McCulloch. He is survived by his parents, Raymond and Doris Duncan of LaFollette; brothers and sisters-in-law, Michael and Janice Duncan of Maynardville, Jeff and Janna Duncan of Jacksboro; sisters and brother-in-law, Billie Ann and Jeff Evans of Jacksboro, Jeannie Smiddy of LaFollette; five nieces and four nephews and one great niece; special uncles, Billy Duncan and Bob McCulloch; aunt, Georgia Ann Brown all of LaFollette; special friends, Ken Thomas, Don Sweat, Jeannette and Caroline and a host of other relatives and friends. Memorial Services were Dec. 1 in the Chapel of Martin Wilson Funeral Home with Jeff Evans officiating. In lieu of flowers, please make donations to the Campbell County Multiple Sclerosis in C/O Martin Wilson Funeral Home. Martin Wilson Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Elizabeth Libby Goins, age 57 of LaFollette died Nov. 25 at the St. Mary's Medical Center of Campbell County. She was a member of the Cooldige First Baptist Church. She was an employee of Imperial Reading for 25 years. She was a loving wife of 37 years and mother who enjoyed spending time with her family and friends. She was a former Sunday school Secretary for several years and loved her Lord and Church.She was preceded in death by father, Gaylor Widener; brother, Ronnie Widener; sister, Peggy Jo Widener. She is survived by her husband, David Goins; son, Michael Goins; daughter, Kristy Goins; mother, Naomi Baldwin Widener; brothers, Jack Widener all of LaFollette, Bill Widener of Jacksboro; sister, Christine Paul of LaFollette; several nieces and nephews and a host of other relatives and friends. Funeral Services were Nov. 27 at the Cooldige First Baptist Church with Rev. Lynn Ray and Rev. Sonny Longmire officiating. Interment was in Bakers Forge Cemetery. Martin Wilson Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Kenith Eugene Elliott, age 74 of Jellico died Nov. 27 at the Jellico Community Hospital. He was born Aug. 4, 1930 at Jellico the son of the late Roscoe and Tima Chitwood Elliott. He was a member of the Brick Plant Church of God and Jellico Chapter #527 F & AM. He was preceded in death by his wife, Madge Cooper Elliott in 1994 and son in law, Mike Delamater. He is survived by his sons, Dennis Brawdy and wife, Joann of Las Vegas, NV, Danny Elliott and wife, Helen of Jellico; daughter, Dutchie Delamater of Seattle, WA, Donna Beck and husband, John of Elk Valley, Dianne Petrey and husband, Pete of Jacksboro; 15 grandchildren, 25 great grandchildren; brother, Charlie Elliott of Jackson; half-brothers, Johnny Elliott, Freddy Elliott, Erman Elliott and Bobby Elliott, all of Jellico, Jack Elliott of Jacksboro; sister, Garnetta Norman of Memphis; half-sisters, Linda Elliott, Doris Ann Powers, Loraine Lamb, all of Jellico. Funeral services were Nov. 29 at the Cox and Son Chapel with Rev. Vernon Jones and Rev. Durand Dixon officiating. Interment was in the Douglas Cemetery. Cox and Son Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Harry Grinderslev, age 51 of Cosby died Oct. 28 at the U.T. Hospital in Knoxville. He was born Oct. 15, 1953 in Chicago, Il to Harry Victor Grinderslev and Henrietta Christensen Grinderslev. He was a construction worker. He was preceded in death by his father, Harry C. Grinderslev. He is survived by his mother, Henrietta "Yetta" Grinderslev; wife, Sonya Mathis Grinderslev of Cosby; sons, Daniel Grinderslev of Cosby, Andy Grinderslev and wife, Cindy of Caryville, Kevin Brandenburg of Seymour, Jacob Lunsford of Cosby; daughter, Shanna Ramino and husband, Brad of Pontiac, Il; brothers, Steve Grinderslev and wife, Stephanie of Murfreesboro, Ed Grinderslev of Austin, TX, Dewayne Grinderslev and wife, Chrissy of Il and Dan Grinderslev and wife, Terry of Fl; sisters, Linda Finger and husband, Tom of TX and Judy Grinderslev of IL; six grandchildren and two step grandchildren. Funeral services were Nov. 1 at the Martin Oak Ridge Funeral Home with Rev. Alfred Byrd and Rev. Ronny Jones officiating. Martin Oak Ridge Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Nell Hampton, age 82 of LaFollette died Nov. 26 at the St. Mary's Medical Center in Knoxville. She was a member of LaFollette Baptist Temple. She loved her family very much. She also loved gardening, flowers, and sewing. She worked at Imperial Reading for 33 years. She was preceded in death by her husband, Fred Hampton; son, Jimmy Hampton; two grandchildren; parents, Jack and Nora Oaks Anderson; brothers, William and Willis Anderson; sisters, Jessie Hogan, Bessie Worsham, Ella Mae Griffin. She is survived by her daughters, Francis Jones and Ella Fontana both of LaFollette, Joyce Hornsby and Sandra Scott both of Jacksboro; 15 grandchildren and 27 great grandchildren; several nieces and nephews and a host of other relatives and friends. Funeral Services were Nov. 29 in Martin Wilson Chapel with Rev. Herman Money officiating. Interment was in Campbell Memorial Gardens. Martin Wilson Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Ellie Mae Hickman, age 60 of LaFollette died Nov. 24 at her home. She was born and raised in Campbell County. She is preceded in death by her late husband, August Hickman; brothers, Garfield, Glen, James, June, Walt, Gene, David, Roy, Earl, and Ernest Johnson; sisters, Ruby Cowan's White and Rose Jones. She is survived by her wonderful companion and forever loved for 14 years, Charles Williams; children, John D. Hickman and Bobby Joe Chadwell; sister, Alice Fae Johnson; special grandchildren, Mary Nicole Hickman, Johnathen Dewayne Hickman Smith, Bobby Joe Chadwell Jr., and Christopher Chadwell; several nieces and nephews and a host other relatives and friends. Funeral Services were Nov.28 in the Chapel of Martin Wilson Funeral Home with Rev. Paul Hembree officiating. Interment was in Peabody Cemetery. Martin Wilson Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Novella Hunley, age 78 of Jacksboro died Nov. 25 at St Mary's Medical Center of Campbell County. She was of the Baptist faith. She was preceded in death by her daughter, Joan Pitts; infant son, Pearl Hunley, Jr; grandsons, Anthony Dean Brewer and DeWayne Hunley; parents, Dewey and Nancy Wilder of Miracle, KY; brother, Fred Wilder of Auburn Hills, MI.She is survived by her husband, Pearl Hunley of Jacksboro; children, Louvennia Marino and husband, Sebastian of Knoxville, Ann Schwartz and husband, Arnold of Speedwell, Kathleen Steck of Jacksboro, Bob Hunley and wife, Faye of Speedwell, Christine Carson and husband, Danny of LaFollette, and Thomas Hunley and wife, Patty of Indianapolis, IN; 18 grandchildren and 13 great grandchildren; brother, J. B. Wilder of Auburn Hills, MI; several nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Funeral services were Nov. 27 at Walters Chapel with Rev. Gary Hunley officiating. Interment was in the Campbell Memorial Gardens. Walters Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Wiley McCloud, age 79 of Jacksboro went home to be with the Lord on Nov. 23. He was preceded in death by his parents: Phil and Myrtle Williams McCloud; brothers, Odell McCloud, Mathias McCloud; sisters, Lily Tomblin, Ruby Farely, Orbra McCloud; granddaughter, Angel Marie Balleie. He is survived by his wife of 50 years, Vesta McCloud of Jacksboro: daughter, Sandra K. Wilson of Lenior City, Debra L. and son-in-law Jimmy Balleie of Lake City; sons and daughters-in-laws, Charles and Sharie McCloud of LaFollette, Wiley Jr. and Roberta McCloud of Dandrige, Raymond and Lisa McCloud of Lake City, Harold and Patty McCloud of Independence, Va., Everett and Sarah McCloud of Jacksboro, Greg and Nancy McCloud of LaFollette, Sister: Jewell Ferrell of Logan, W.Va.; grandchildren, Samantha, Melissa, Charles Jr., Jennifer, Robert Marshall, Christina, Keith, Candice, Raymond Jr. Micheal, Jimmy Lynn Jr., Harold Jr., Stepanie, Justin, Megan, Amanda, Ashley, Mathew Andrew, Rebecca, Kendra; great grand children: Ashley, Sierria.Funeral Services were Nov. 26 in the Chapel of Martin Wilson Funeral Home with the Rev. Kenny Gillum officiating. Interment was in Powell Valley Cemetery with full military honors by the Campbell County Honor Guard. Martin Wilson Funeral home was in charge of the arrangements. Lorna Dean Ridenour, age 73 of St. Clair Shores, MI died at her home on Nov. 19 in MI. She was preceded in death by her husband, Charles Ridenour; parents, Hugh and Minnie Underwood Goins; sister, Nanny Ivey. She is survived by her daughter and son-in-law, Charlotte and Gary Rutkowski of St. Clair Shores, MI; son and daughter-in-law, Mike and Sharon Ridenour of LaFollette,; grandchildren, Jared, Justin and Joey of St. Clair, MI; brothers, Walter, Whit and Wallace Goins; sisters, Mary Meredith of Pittsboro,IN ; sister in law: Oneida Gossage; a host of other relatives and friends. Funeral Services were Nov. 25 in the Chapel of Martin Wilson Funeral Home with Rev. Danny Hensley officiating. Interment was in Bakers Forge Cemetery. Martin Wilson Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. James Silcox, age 76 of LaFollette died in the early morning on Nov. 25 at St. Mary's of Campbell County. He was preceded in death by his mother, Etta McKinney; sisters, Jimmie Gail Ogg, Glenna Rayburn, Jo Byrge and Margaret Chapman; nephew, Marty Ogg. He was a U.S. Navy Veteran and retired from Imperial Reading after 37 years of service. He is survived by his wife, Margie Smith Silcox; sons, Eddie and James Silcox; grandson, Jimmy Silcox; brothers, Paul and Charles Silcox; sisters, Linda Price, Ann Medford, Judith Hill and Bobbie Coffey; several nieces and nephews. Funeral services were Nov. 27 at the Cross Chapel with Rev. Dale Baker officiating. Interment was in the Woodlawn Cemetery. Cross Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Burgin Stepp, age 69 of Caryville died Nov. 29 at the Sunbridge Nursing Home. He was a member of the Little Cove Creek Baptist Church. He was a loving father and grandfather who enjoyed spending time with his family and friends. He was preceded in death by his parents, Thomas Lee and Margaret Stepp; sister, Virgie Stepp. He is survived by his wife, Mary C. Stepp of LaFollette; sons and daughters-in-law, James and Crystal Stepp of Jacksboro, Walter and Tina Stepp Young of Claxton, James Phillips of Oliver Springs, daughter and son-in-law, Vanessa and Randall Bunch of LaFollette; seven grandchildren; sister, Lowbill Stepp Young of Clinton; special friend, Billy Ray Ward of Caryville; several nieces and nephews and a host of other relatives and friends. Funeral Services were Dec. 1 in the Chapel of Martin Wilson Funeral Home with Rev. C.H. Baird officiating. Interment was in Rains Grove Cemetery. Martin Wilson Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Johnson Taylor (J.T.) Young, age 85 of LaFollette, died Nov. 27 at Oak Ridge Methodist Medical Center. He was born June 4, 1919, and served in Europe with the Untied States Army during World War II. He was of the Baptist faith. He was preceded in death by his father, Taylor Young; mother, Sallie Young Sweat; brother, Claude Young. He is survived by his loving wife of 66 years, Thelma Goins Young; daughter and son-in-law, Yvonne and Kenneth McCarty; grandson, Rodney and Tammy McCarty; great-grandson, William Taylor McCarty and step-granddaughter, Natasha Fontenot; brothers, Paul Young and Obie Young; sisters, Elizabeth Deal and Ruby Ivey; several nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Graveside services and interment were Nov. 29 at Sunrise Cemetery with Rev. LeRoy Braden officiating. Full military honors conducted by the Campbell County Honor Guard. Walters Funeral Home of LaFollette was in charge of the arrangements =========================================== SUPPORT OUR TROOPS---FLY THE FLAG "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek. They hide I seek!!! www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE/BUNCH/DAUGHERTY/DUNCAN/KENNEDY/ PATTERSON/PHILLIPS/SEIBER/TACKETT/WARD

Holocaust soldiers recall capture, liberation By ANITA WADHWANI Staff Writer 4 were among 350 Americans sent to camp because they 'seemed' Jewish On a cold German morning shortly before the end of World War II, a 19-year-old Tennessee soldier named Wallace Carden stood before Nazi officers as they issued the command: ''Jewish soldiers, one step forward.'' None of the 4,000 U.S. soldiers captured in the Battle of the Bulge moved, so the Nazis decided to pick out the soldiers who ''seemed'' Jewish and send them to a forced labor camp. Carden was among those picked. Three hundred and fifty soldiers were loaded onto boxcars and sent on a journey without food or water to the Berga camp in northern Germany. More than 70 were Jewish. Most, like Carden, were not. Four of the survivors of the Berga concentration camp — now all in their late 70s — stood yesterday on a Vanderbilt University stage and spoke to an audience of teenagers not much younger than they were when captured. The event was part of the Tennessee Holocaust Commission's continuing educational programs aimed at high school teachers and their students. About 300 attended yesterday's speech. Carden enlisted from Briceville, Tenn., a coal-mining town northeast of Oak Ridge. When he first entered basic training and was sent to the 28th Infantry, he weighed about 190 pounds, he guesses. Liberated by U.S. soldiers after two months in Berga, he weighed 90 pounds. He remembers liberation like this: ''A lieutenant came up and pointed at me and said, 'What the hell is that?' '' The man was pointing in shock at Carden's emaciated body. He and other men were too weak to pick up the rations offered by U.S. soldiers. More than 70 men died in the camp or in the forced march in spring 1945 as Allied troops neared. Berga was part of an extended Nazi system of concentration camps that included forced labor camps, where many people were worked to death. The men worked side by side with Jewish detainees and political prisoners blasting tunnels to create a synthetic fuel factory as part of the Nazi war effort. At night they slept two to a bunk, three bunks to the ceiling in unheated barracks infested with lice. There was so little food that the imprisoned U.S. soldiers invented an elaborate system called ''bread-cutting squads'' for di viding up the single loaf of bread meant to feed a half-dozen men a day. ''The guy who cut the bread that day got the last slice,'' said Bill Shapiro, a medic captured with the 28th Infantry Division who spoke to students yesterday. ''That way, the slices were divided very evenly.'' Shapiro, now a retired doctor living in Palm Beach, Fla., was among the Jewish soldiers sent to Berga. Soon after his surrender, he was interrogated by Nazi captors in a way typical of the Battle of the Bulge prisoners, he said. They asked for not only his name, rank and serial number, but also for his mother's maiden name and his father's profession in an effort to determine whether he was Jewish. His dog tags, with the tell-tale ''H'' signifying ''Hebrew,'' were hidden in his shoes. ''The interrogator shouted, 'You're Jewish!' '' Shapiro said. ''Not to my credit, I answered, 'No,' '' Shapiro said. He was sent to Berga anyway. The other Berga survivors speaking yesterday were Tony Acevedo, a California native of Mexican descent who is not Jewish and was captured with the 70th Infantry Division; and Gerry Daub, a Brooklyn native who is Jewish and was assigned to the 100th Infantry Division. The story of the U.S. soldiers in the Berga camp was a little-known part of Holocaust history until filmmaker Charles Guggenheim made the documentary Berga: Soldiers of Another War, which aired on PBS in May. Guggenheim spent the last six months of his life making the film to honor fellow comrades in the 106th Infantry who died in Berga. The filmmaker had been away from his regiment recovering from an infection when they were captured. Carden says he is gratified for the film and the effort to keep the story alive. ''Nobody was interested in it for a long time,'' he said. But for all these years Carden has kept a shadowbox on his living room wall with reminders from that grim time. Along with his prisoner of war medals, the box displays gifts from his fellow prisoners: the rough-hewn wooden spoon he used to eat rotten soup, and a pocketknife he used to cut bread made from sawdust. Source: The Tennessean, 10/29/2003