Stan, I don't think that my Cherry family has any connection to the Rorie Family of Indian Mound, but I'll check and see. If I run across one, I'll let you know. Deanna > > Does your CHERRY family have any connections to the RORIE family of Indian > Mound? > > Stan Magnesen > ROOTWALKER site/list coordinator
Dear Dianna, Oops! I had a senior moment! I had it in my mind somehow that the 1880 census data was 1900 census data. Now that I've straightened my head out, it is obvious that it's Zachariah's brother, Thomas. Thanks for your feedback. I found the 1900 census data for this Thomas also ... he was a widower and two of his daughters and their husbands were living in his household. Let me know if you want transcription details. Hal Balthrop ----- Original Message ----- From: "dianna forster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTWALKER] Ophelia Cross Neblett Batson - Montgomery Co., Tn. > With regard to the transcription for Thomas Batson the South Side > Cousins book on page 328 lists him as Thomas Hatton Batson, Jr. The wife > and children are the same as in your transcription. Thomas Hatton > Batson, Jr. and Zachariah (my great-grandfather) are brothers along with > 8 other siblings. They are sons of Thomas Hatton Batson. Evidently > Thomas is an old family name in the Batson family so it can get quite > confusing. Dianna > > > ==== TN-ROOTWALKER Mailing List ==== > To change from list mode to digest mode, send the word unsubscribe to [email protected] and then send the word subscribe to [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Yes, there is a problem with Zachariah's birtdate. In Iva Coffman's abstraction it lists the year 1880. Unitl I recieved this from her about 2 years ago, I had always believed my grandfather Burney to be an only child. I had never heard of Hattie born Sept. 15, 1880 and married J.T. Miller, Stewart born in 1882, Mary, or Vmist born Sept. 21, 1884. In Brown Harvey's South Side Cousins there is no mention of these siblings - only the one son, Burnie, is mentioned on p. 191. Zachariah's death occurred in 1884 (church record) acoording to this book. So there is some confusion here. Any ideas? Dianna
With regard to the transcription for Thomas Batson the South Side Cousins book on page 328 lists him as Thomas Hatton Batson, Jr. The wife and children are the same as in your transcription. Thomas Hatton Batson, Jr. and Zachariah (my great-grandfather) are brothers along with 8 other siblings. They are sons of Thomas Hatton Batson. Evidently Thomas is an old family name in the Batson family so it can get quite confusing. Dianna
Good morning Deanna, Thanks for the information about the Cherry family newsletter. Does your CHERRY family have any connections to the RORIE family of Indian Mound? Thanks for being part of the ROOTWALKER family. God Bless America! Stan Magnesen ROOTWALKER site/list coordinator ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 4/16/02 9:29:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: [ROOTWALKER] Cherry Family Info > Date: 4/16/02 9:29:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time > From: [email protected] (Deanna Oklepek) > Reply-to: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Stan, > I am sending this information to you and you may put it on your list, if you > deem it appropriate. Mr. John Cherry is extremely helpful to all Cherry > researchers and the most knowledgable of anyone that I know about that > family. > > I am related to the Cherry family from Stewart Co. TN. Henry Co. is next > to > Stewart Co. so there may be some connections back at some point in time. > The person that I know that has the most Cherry family information > available > is > John H. Cherry > PO Box 633597 > Nacogdoches, TX 75963-3597 > email: [email protected] > > He publishes a newsletter called "The Cherry Cousins' Clearinghouse". It > comes out quarterly and he asks $15/year donation to help with his costs. > He > has more than 40,000 names in his database and he puts in all the Cherry > family names that he gets in the hopes of eventually linking them up. He > does like to receive and know documentation for his material. I sent him > some information which conflicted with material given to him by someone > else. I had the documentation which I sent to him and he very happily > changed his information to match mine. > I would strongly suggest that anyone contact him with their information > about the Cherry family if they have questions. > > Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or to edit the > contents of this email if you wish to use any part of it, but not all. > > Deanna > >
Dear Deanna, More census data on Ophelia and Burney, in case you didn't have it? Hal Balthrop /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 1900 Montgomery County, Federal Census ===>> Sup Dist #6, Enum Dist #40, Sheet 19A, [blank] June 1900, Enumerator - John N Dickson, Dw #329, Fam #334, Line #'s 18 & 21: Batson, Burney: Head, Wh, Male, b July 1871[sic], Age 21, Marr 0 yrs, TN, TN, TN Batson, Agnis[sic]: Wife, Wh, Fem, b Mar 1871, Age 31, Marr 0 yrs, TN, TN, TN Batson, Lena A: S-Dau, Wh, Fem, b Aug 1887, Age 12, Single, TN, TN, TN, At School Street, Dosie: Servant, Black, Fem, b Jun 1881, Age 18, TN, TN, TN, House Work [Note: Agnis is shown as having birthed zero children, apparently referencing current marriage.] <><><><><> 1900 Montgomery County, Federal Census ===>> Sup Dist #6, Enum Dist #40, Sheet 19A, [blank] June 1900, Enumerator - John N Dickson, Dw #328, Fam #333, Line #'s 16 & 17: Batson, Ophelia: Head, Wh, Fem, b Nov 1844, Age 55, Widow, TN, TN, TN Batson, Hattie E: Dau, Wh, Fem, b Sept 1880, Age 19, Single, TN, TN, TN [Note: Ophelia is shown as having birthed 7 children with 5 surviving on census date.]
Dear Dianna, Thanks for the Agnes Schmittou link ... I had no record of her existence, although I did have info about her siblings and parents. I was thrown for a loop momentarily because her father was William Francis Schmittou, and I only had the F for a middle initial. We share the Prussian immigrant Dr. Francois Fredrick Von Schmittou as a common ancestor. You descend from his son Obriant's line, I descend from his daughter Antoinette's line. On another front, below is a transcription for a Thomas Batson which has a virtually perfect match of a birth date for the son of Thomas Hatton Batson, but the rest of the data seems not to fit. You may want to mull over it ... however, I tend to think it is just a different Batson line. ******************************************* 1880 Montgomery County, Texas, Federal Census ===>> Page 15, Sup Dist #4, Enum Dist #141, Civil District #16, 15 June 1880, Enumerator - Thos T Harper, [Printed #410 C], Dw #5, Fam #5, Line #'s 28 thru 42: [ADC Image 15 or 41] Batson, Thos: Wh, Male, Age 49, Marr, Farmer, TN, NC[sic], TN Batson, Malinda: Wh, Fem, Wife, Age 47, Keeping House, TN, TN, TN Batson, Wm T: Wh, Male, Son, Age 21, On Farm, TN, TN, TN Batson, Sam E: Wh, Male, Son, Age 20, At School, TN, TN, TN, Att School Batson, Robert S: Wh, Son, Age 18, On Farm, TN, TN, TN, Att School Batson, N E: Wh, Dau, Age 16, At Home, TN, TN, TN, Att School Batson, Charlie: Wh, Son, Age 14, On Farm, TN, TN, TN, Att School Batson, Mildred T: Wh, Dau, Age 12, On Farm, TN, TN, TN, Att School Batson, Blanche: Wh, Dau, Age 10, On Farm, TN, TN, TN, Att School Batson, Mary C: Wh, Dau, Age 8, TN, TN, TN Batson, Maria: Wh, Dau, Age 6, TN, TN, TN Batson, Sarah M: Wh, Dau, Age 3, TN, TN, TN Batson, Timothy: Mu, Servt, Single, Works on Farm, TN, TN, TN Batson, Mary E: Mu, [blank], Single, Works on Farm, TN, TN, TN Batson, Jack: Mu, [blank], Single, Works on Farm, TN, TN, TN ******************************************* Hal Balthrop ----- Original Message ----- From: "dianna forster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTWALKER] Ophelia Cross Neblett Batson - Montgomery Co., Tn. > The following information is from a Clarksville paper dated Mon. Aug. > 21, 1939. Agnes Schmittou died on Sat., Aug. 19, 1939. She was born in > Dickson County on Mar. 28, 1871. She was the daughter of Francis and > Nancy Pott Schmittou. Surviving are one son, Ray Batson of Detroit; two > brothers, Pete Schmittou of Rossview community, and Charles of Paris, > Tenn., and two sisters, Mrs. Fannie Dickson of Vanleer, Tenn., and Mrs. > Virgie Thompson of Dickson County. Her husband died in 1919. > It doesn't say which husband died in 1919. I have Burney Batson's birth > as July 23, 1878 and his death in 1925. By the way Ray Batson (full name > - Louis Ray Batson) is my father. Are we cousins? Dianna Batson Forster > > > ==== TN-ROOTWALKER Mailing List ==== > If you have gotten help from others on your family tree, please pass the favor on to others. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Dear Dianna, You are welcome! There is a problem with the death date for Zachariah. If he died in 1880, there was no time for Hattie, Stewart and Vmist to be born, as only Burney Z is shown in the 1880 census. I would suspect that maybe 1888 would more likely be correct, but that is conjecture based on the known data. And Vmist ???? Yeah, I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that something is awry with that name! Maybe it was Venus or something like that? I'll let you know if anything new or exciting pops up on the Batsons. I might add, in the 1880 census, I ran across a Batson in the Montgomery County census that was born in Ireland, so there may be a lot of unrelated (or very distantly) related Batson's in that area. Hal Balthrop ----- Original Message ----- From: "dianna forster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTWALKER] Ophelia Cross Neblett Batson - Montgomery Co., Tn. > Thank you for all the census information. I didn't know Ophelia Cross > Neblett Batson had brothers and sisters. That's a new avenue of > investigation for me. Anyway in a diagram by Iva Coffman who is a great- > grandaughter of William Henry Neblett and Ophelia (her 1st husband), > there is listed Burney Z., Hattie, Stewart, Mary, and Vmist as children > of Zachariah and Ophelia Batson. So the Z. could certainly stand for > Zachariah. In this same abstraction by Iva Coffman Zachariah's birth is > listed as 1823 and death is listed as July 23, 1880. Dianna p.s. What > kind of name is Vmist? It looks like a letter is missing - ha. > > > ==== TN-ROOTWALKER Mailing List ==== > Genealogy is our way of remembering those who passed before us, and making sure they will be remembered forever. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Thank you for all the census information. I didn't know Ophelia Cross Neblett Batson had brothers and sisters. That's a new avenue of investigation for me. Anyway in a diagram by Iva Coffman who is a great- grandaughter of William Henry Neblett and Ophelia (her 1st husband), there is listed Burney Z., Hattie, Stewart, Mary, and Vmist as children of Zachariah and Ophelia Batson. So the Z. could certainly stand for Zachariah. In this same abstraction by Iva Coffman Zachariah's birth is listed as 1823 and death is listed as July 23, 1880. Dianna p.s. What kind of name is Vmist? It looks like a letter is missing - ha.
The following information is from a Clarksville paper dated Mon. Aug. 21, 1939. Agnes Schmittou died on Sat., Aug. 19, 1939. She was born in Dickson County on Mar. 28, 1871. She was the daughter of Francis and Nancy Pott Schmittou. Surviving are one son, Ray Batson of Detroit; two brothers, Pete Schmittou of Rossview community, and Charles of Paris, Tenn., and two sisters, Mrs. Fannie Dickson of Vanleer, Tenn., and Mrs. Virgie Thompson of Dickson County. Her husband died in 1919. It doesn't say which husband died in 1919. I have Burney Batson's birth as July 23, 1878 and his death in 1925. By the way Ray Batson (full name - Louis Ray Batson) is my father. Are we cousins? Dianna Batson Forster
Dianna, I forgot to ask ... I am a Schmittou descendant ... how does Agnes Schmittou ties in to the Schmittou line. I have a link to another Agnes Schmittou (Dau of Peter Von Schmittou), but she is too young to be this Agnes Schmittou ... I think? Hal Balthrop ----- Original Message ----- From: "dianna forster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTWALKER] Ophelia Cross Neblett Batson - Montgomery Co., Tn. > Hal, Yes, > My great-grandfather, Zachariah Batson, was first married to Arabella > Turner. They had six children - Elizabeth, Mary, Thomas, Alice, > Virginia, Zach Outlaw Batson. Thomas married Rachel Dillon first. His > second wife was Agnes Schmittou. (Agnes is my grandmother because her > second marriage was to Burney Batson, son of Zachariah and Ophelia Ann > Cross Neblett Batson.) I am hoping to find out information about Ophelia > Cross' ancestors. It is reported that she was Cherokee and distantly > related to Pocahontas although I have no proof of this at present. Hope > this makes sense & that you can help me. > Dianna > > > ==== TN-ROOTWALKER Mailing List ==== > ...from the moutains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam, God Bless America! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Dear Dianna (spelled it right this time!), Below are a couple of my census transcriptions re the Batson's: ************************************************ 1850 Montgomery County, Tennessee, Federal Census ===>> 30 Oct 1850, Asst Marshal - T Ramey, Dw #1176, Fam #1176, Line #'s 12 thru 16: Batson, Z: Age 27, Male, Farmer, b TN Batson, Arabella: Age 27, Fem, b TN Batson, Elisabeth: Age 4, Fem, b TN Batson, Mary: Age 2, Fem b TN Batson, Thomas: Age 6/12, Male, b TN <><><><><> 1880 Montgomery County, Texas, Federal Census ===>> Page 14, Sup Dist #4, Enum Dist #141, Civil District #16, 14 June 1880, Enumerator - Thos T Harper, [Printed 410 B], Dw #9, Fam #9, Line #'s 45 thru 50 & 1 thru 3 on following page: [ADC Images 14 & 15 of 41] Batson, Z: Wh, Male, Age 56[sic], Marr, Farmer, TN, NC, TN Batson, Ophelia: Wh, Fem, Age 36, Wife, Marr, KY, KY, TN Batson, S A: Wh, Male, Age 26, Son, Marr, On Farm, TN, TN, TN Batson, S M: Wh, Fem, Age 15, Dau-in-Law, Marr within yr, Keeping House, TN, TN, TN Batson, Z B: Wh, Male, Age 1, Son, Single, TN, TN, TN Neblett, Edna: Wh, Fem, Age 12, Step-Dau, At Home, TN, TN, TN, Att School Neblett, Wm: Wh, Male, Age 10, Step-Son, Single, KY, TN, TN, Att School Neblett, Elma: Wh, Fem, Age 8, Step-Dau, Single, TN, TN, TN Clark, Thos J: Wh, Male, Age 21, Hired, On Farm, Single, TN, TN, TN ************************************************ The Z B Batson in the 1880 census musta been ole Burney? He is shown as "Z B".... could his first name have been Zachariah? Zachariah O Batson, son of Arabella, was long gone by the time Burney was born, so the reuse of the name Zachariah seems a little more feasible. No sign of a daughter of Ophelia I've spotted in the records (named Mary) who probably died prior to 1880? Here's another census of interest in case you don't have it ... my transcription: ************************************************ 1850 Montgomery County, Tennessee, Federal Census ===>> 19 Nov 1850, Asst Marshal - T Ramey, Dw #1387, Fam #1387, Line #'s 30 thru 37: Cross, James B: Age 40, Male, Carpenter, b TN Cross, Cynthia: Age 38, Fem, b TN Cross, William B: Age 15, Male, b TN Cross, John M: Age 13, Male, b TN Cross, Sarah J: Age 11, Fem, b TN Cross, Belfield: Age 9, Male, b TN Cross, Ophelia: Age 7, Fem, b TN Cross, Victoria: Age 2, Fem, b TN ************************************************ The family finishes up with a British military service award ... Victoria Cross. (Groan) Hope this data doesn't cross you up! (Double Groan). Heres another bit of census data that might also interest you ... my transcription: ************************************************ 1850 Montgomery County, Tennessee, Federal Census ===>> 30 Oct 1850, Asst Marshal - T Ramey, Dw #1175, Fam #1175, Line #'s 1 thru 11: Batson, Thomas H: Age 50, Male, Wh, Farmer, REV $8000, b NC Batson, Nancy: Age 45, Fem, Wh, b TN Batson, Alexander: Age 25, Male, Laborer, b TN Batson, Willie B: Age 23, Male, Farmer, b TN Batson, Smith: Age 21, Male, b TN Batson, Thomas: Age 19, Male, b TN Batson, Susan: Age 15, Fem, b TN Batson, Richard: Age 13, Male, b TN Batson, Nancy: Age 11, Fem, b TN Batson, Elizabeth: Age 7, Fem, b TN Batson, John: Age 3, Male, b TN ************************************************ Of course, this was Zachariah's father and mother's family. He had an army of family living in the same area ....... brothers, sisters, and his mother. If interested you may want to look it up if you haven't already done so. Zachariah's sister, Susan, has her future husband also shown in the census living in the same residence as Zacharaiah's mother (Susan's husband was apparently a half-cousin?). There seems to be some discrepancy regarding Zachariah's DOD. Hal Balthrop ----- Original Message ----- From: "dianna forster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTWALKER] Ophelia Cross Neblett Batson - Montgomery Co., Tn. > Hal, Yes, > My great-grandfather, Zachariah Batson, was first married to Arabella > Turner. They had six children - Elizabeth, Mary, Thomas, Alice, > Virginia, Zach Outlaw Batson. Thomas married Rachel Dillon first. His > second wife was Agnes Schmittou. (Agnes is my grandmother because her > second marriage was to Burney Batson, son of Zachariah and Ophelia Ann > Cross Neblett Batson.) I am hoping to find out information about Ophelia > Cross' ancestors. It is reported that she was Cherokee and distantly > related to Pocahontas although I have no proof of this at present. Hope > this makes sense & that you can help me. > Dianna > > > ==== TN-ROOTWALKER Mailing List ==== > ...from the moutains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam, God Bless America! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Hal, Yes, My great-grandfather, Zachariah Batson, was first married to Arabella Turner. They had six children - Elizabeth, Mary, Thomas, Alice, Virginia, Zach Outlaw Batson. Thomas married Rachel Dillon first. His second wife was Agnes Schmittou. (Agnes is my grandmother because her second marriage was to Burney Batson, son of Zachariah and Ophelia Ann Cross Neblett Batson.) I am hoping to find out information about Ophelia Cross' ancestors. It is reported that she was Cherokee and distantly related to Pocahontas although I have no proof of this at present. Hope this makes sense & that you can help me. Dianna
Stan, I am sending this information to you and you may put it on your list, if you deem it appropriate. Mr. John Cherry is extremely helpful to all Cherry researchers and the most knowledgable of anyone that I know about that family. I am related to the Cherry family from Stewart Co. TN. Henry Co. is next to Stewart Co. so there may be some connections back at some point in time. The person that I know that has the most Cherry family information available is John H. Cherry PO Box 633597 Nacogdoches, TX 75963-3597 email: [email protected] He publishes a newsletter called "The Cherry Cousins' Clearinghouse". It comes out quarterly and he asks $15/year donation to help with his costs. He has more than 40,000 names in his database and he puts in all the Cherry family names that he gets in the hopes of eventually linking them up. He does like to receive and know documentation for his material. I sent him some information which conflicted with material given to him by someone else. I had the documentation which I sent to him and he very happily changed his information to match mine. I would strongly suggest that anyone contact him with their information about the Cherry family if they have questions. Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or to edit the contents of this email if you wish to use any part of it, but not all. Deanna
I am looking for John B. Cherry b. 1839 in Henry County TN then moved to KY. He was married to Dora Curd they had four children Bradley, Blanche, John Wilson, and Mattie. Looking for the County they lived in KY.
I am Looking for John B. Cherry that moved to KY around 1850 or 1860. He was married to Dora Curd. They had four children Bradley, Blanche, John Wilson, and Mattie. Thanks Patty
Hi! I am looking for a John B. Cherry b: 1839 in Henry county but moved to KY between 1850 and 1860. He was married to Dora Curd they had four children Bradley, Blanche, John Wilson, and Mattie.
There were Cherry's in the Clay Co., Tn. area and around Murfreesboro,Tn. I have accidently run across the name several times in my research in that area. S. White > >
Good morning, We have run across the CHERRY surname many times. Two of the places where we have noticed a large number of people from the CHERRY family are Sumner County and Stewart County, Tennessee. The Sumner County CHERRY family that I know of was from around Castalian Springs. The Stewart County family was from around Indian Mound. I hope this helps you a little. Thanks for being part of the ROOTWALKER family. "Stars And Bars Forever!" Stan Magnesen ROOTWALKER site/list coordinator ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 4/13/02 6:28:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: [ROOTWALKER] [email protected] > Date: 4/13/02 6:28:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time > From: [email protected] > Reply-to: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > I am working on the surname of Cherry. Does anyone have any information > on > this Name. Some of the Cherry's lived in KY but I do not know the county > they > were from. >