Thank you so much, Becky. You really went the extra mile for me and gave me lots of info that I didn't have. All you have done has really helped some of the pieces to come together for me. I am still wondering where the name Wilson is coming from. It hasn't shown up as anyone's last name, but it was David Wilson Brimer's middle name as well as John Wilson Brimer of Hamilton County that I had asked for a lookup on a while back. I don't know the connection between David and John, so that's what makes me so curious about the Wilson name. Thanks again, Marjorie ============================ In a message dated 09/25/2006 2:38:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, millet@consolidated.net writes: Marjorie, Here's Ida Bell with her family in 1870 and 1880: Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: District 3, Knox, Tennessee; Roll: T9_1265; Family History Film: 1255265; Page: 233.4000; Enumeration District: 151 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Payne ENGLAND Self M M W 43 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: TN Mary J. ENGLAND Wife F M W 43 TN Occ: Keeps House Fa: TN Mo: TN Hugh L. ENGLAND Son M S W 19 TN Occ: Student Fa: TN Mo: TN Mineva T. ENGLAND Dau F S W 18 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Ohio P. ENGLAND Dau F S W 16 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Joseph ENGLAND Son M S W 14 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN Ida Belle ENGLAND Dau F S W 12 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Lula A. ENGLAND Dau F S W 10 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Benjamin R. ENGLAND Son M S W 6 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Minirva LEGG Aunt F S W 56 TN Occ: Housekeeper Fa: TN Mo: TN Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: District 3, Knox, Tennessee; Roll: M593_1541; Page: 112; Image: 57. 156/156 ENGLAND, Paine, 35, M, W, 2000/1000, TN -----Mary, 35, F, W, TN -----Hugh L., 10, M, W, TN -----Minerva, 9, F, W, TN -----Ohio, 8, F, W, TN -----Joseph, 4, M, W, TN -----Ida Bell, 3, F, W, TN -----Lura A., 1, F, W, TN