Marjorie, Here's Ida Bell with her family in 1870 and 1880: Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: District 3, Knox, Tennessee; Roll: T9_1265; Family History Film: 1255265; Page: 233.4000; Enumeration District: 151 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Payne ENGLAND Self M M W 43 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: TN Mary J. ENGLAND Wife F M W 43 TN Occ: Keeps House Fa: TN Mo: TN Hugh L. ENGLAND Son M S W 19 TN Occ: Student Fa: TN Mo: TN Mineva T. ENGLAND Dau F S W 18 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Ohio P. ENGLAND Dau F S W 16 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Joseph ENGLAND Son M S W 14 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN Ida Belle ENGLAND Dau F S W 12 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Lula A. ENGLAND Dau F S W 10 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Benjamin R. ENGLAND Son M S W 6 TN Fa: TN Mo: TN Minirva LEGG Aunt F S W 56 TN Occ: Housekeeper Fa: TN Mo: TN Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: District 3, Knox, Tennessee; Roll: M593_1541; Page: 112; Image: 57. 156/156 ENGLAND, Paine, 35, M, W, 2000/1000, TN -----Mary, 35, F, W, TN -----Hugh L., 10, M, W, TN -----Minerva, 9, F, W, TN -----Ohio, 8, F, W, TN -----Joseph, 4, M, W, TN -----Ida Bell, 3, F, W, TN -----Lura A., 1, F, W, TN ************ Becky millet@consolidated.net "The best measure of the future is the record of the past."