I'm not seeing the same behavior with suspicious links, Tom. What I may have seen is a malformed shortened URL? Yes, we've thought about the implications of write access. It's a mixed bag, letting everyone write on the web page. Either one or a small group has to maintain it--and then you rely on us having time to do it--or we let everyone write on it, or we somehow manage what pages over 100 members have write access to (which makes my head hurt, just thinking about it.) I don't think anyone is adding bad stuff intentionally and overall I'm very happy with how people have managed the site. Mistakes may happen, but we'll take care of them. I verify that people are subscribed to the mailing list before I add them to the website. In addition, I see the log of every change--and you can subscribe to that stream too if you wish to. If anyone DOES find a bad link, please remove it yourself or bring it to mine or Barbara L's attention so we can take care of it. I'm thinking that we'll convert the website to mostly read-only after it settles down a little bit, but until I see evidence of evil intent I'm willing to have the risk of having the website open, for everyone's convenience during this particularly active stage. We are monitoring and have plans in place to close it down quickly if it comes under attack. Barbara On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Tom Momeyer <tom@momeyer.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Appreciate the work going into the TMG Refugees Rootsweb list and the > Google Groups site. As I explored the google groups site, I found that > clicking on a few of the weblinks leads to an internet virus attack that my > Norton Antivirus software stops and reports. Examples for locations > include some of the RootsMagic links on this page: > https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees/software/support-documentation/rootsmagic. > > > > > I copied some of the "links" noted above to notepad and see that the links > do not look like real and they do look suspicious. > > > > So, I also noticed that all members are given "write" privileges, so > perhaps this is how the bogus links crept in and must be one or more > members with "ill" intent? > > > > Has this been discussed or considered by the google group founder or > founders? Is it possible to have a google group allowing all member > "write" access without associated virus risks? > > > > Reason I'm asking, is that this weekend, I'm attending a local TMG & SS > user group meeting, where I have facilitated in the past and assisted > others with TMG and SS issues, setup, customization, etc. I'm sure that > TMG demise will come up, and I can offer some info on my explorations into > RootsMagic, TMG Refugees, etc, but don't want to provide links to the > google group that may have virus links built in. > > > > Thanks, Tom > > > > > -- Barbara Zanzig TMG-REFUGEES list admin admin email: *TMG-REFUGEES-admin@rootsweb.com <TMG-REFUGEES-admin@rootsweb.com>* list address: *http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.html <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.html>* list website: *https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees <https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees>*

If I may :) I found one of the offending URL's and immediately corrected it. I also noticed that several of our URL's are in fact search engine URL's, rather than the actual page. Tom, I'm convinced that the "bad" URL was there, but was entirely a mistake. I'll take a look at the other URL's and change them to the exact site or page. Tom Dunaway -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Zanzig via Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:24 PM To: Tom Momeyer ; Refugees Subject: Re: [REFUGEES] TMG Refugees google group I'm not seeing the same behavior with suspicious links, Tom. What I may have seen is a malformed shortened URL? Yes, we've thought about the implications of write access. It's a mixed bag, letting everyone write on the web page. Either one or a small group has to maintain it--and then you rely on us having time to do it--or we let everyone write on it, or we somehow manage what pages over 100 members have write access to (which makes my head hurt, just thinking about it.) I don't think anyone is adding bad stuff intentionally and overall I'm very happy with how people have managed the site. Mistakes may happen, but we'll take care of them. I verify that people are subscribed to the mailing list before I add them to the website. In addition, I see the log of every change--and you can subscribe to that stream too if you wish to. If anyone DOES find a bad link, please remove it yourself or bring it to mine or Barbara L's attention so we can take care of it. I'm thinking that we'll convert the website to mostly read-only after it settles down a little bit, but until I see evidence of evil intent I'm willing to have the risk of having the website open, for everyone's convenience during this particularly active stage. We are monitoring and have plans in place to close it down quickly if it comes under attack. Barbara On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Tom Momeyer <tom@momeyer.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Appreciate the work going into the TMG Refugees Rootsweb list and the > Google Groups site. As I explored the google groups site, I found that > clicking on a few of the weblinks leads to an internet virus attack that > my > Norton Antivirus software stops and reports. Examples for locations > include some of the RootsMagic links on this page: > https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees/software/support-documentation/rootsmagic. > > > > > I copied some of the "links" noted above to notepad and see that the links > do not look like real and they do look suspicious. > > > > So, I also noticed that all members are given "write" privileges, so > perhaps this is how the bogus links crept in and must be one or more > members with "ill" intent? > > > > Has this been discussed or considered by the google group founder or > founders? Is it possible to have a google group allowing all member > "write" access without associated virus risks? > > > > Reason I'm asking, is that this weekend, I'm attending a local TMG & SS > user group meeting, where I have facilitated in the past and assisted > others with TMG and SS issues, setup, customization, etc. I'm sure that > TMG demise will come up, and I can offer some info on my explorations into > RootsMagic, TMG Refugees, etc, but don't want to provide links to the > google group that may have virus links built in. > > > > Thanks, Tom > > > > > -- Barbara Zanzig TMG-REFUGEES list admin admin email: *TMG-REFUGEES-admin@rootsweb.com <TMG-REFUGEES-admin@rootsweb.com>* list address: *http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.html <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.html>* list website: *https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees <https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees>* *** To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-REFUGEES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the message subject and body. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-REFUGEES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, The links, at least the ones in the body of the page, look fine to me. I did have to allow firefox to redirect the SQLite one (which is legit). Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 1/10/14 13:24, Barbara Zanzig via wrote: > I'm not seeing the same behavior with suspicious links, Tom. What I may > have seen is a malformed shortened URL? > > Yes, we've thought about the implications of write access. It's a mixed > bag, letting everyone write on the web page. Either one or a small group > has to maintain it--and then you rely on us having time to do it--or we let > everyone write on it, or we somehow manage what pages over 100 members have > write access to (which makes my head hurt, just thinking about it.) > > I don't think anyone is adding bad stuff intentionally and overall I'm very > happy with how people have managed the site. Mistakes may happen, but we'll > take care of them. > > I verify that people are subscribed to the mailing list before I add them > to the website. In addition, I see the log of every change--and you can > subscribe to that stream too if you wish to. > > If anyone DOES find a bad link, please remove it yourself or bring it to > mine or Barbara L's attention so we can take care of it. > > I'm thinking that we'll convert the website to mostly read-only after it > settles down a little bit, but until I see evidence of evil intent I'm > willing to have the risk of having the website open, for everyone's > convenience during this particularly active stage. We are monitoring and > have plans in place to close it down quickly if it comes under attack. > > Barbara > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Tom Momeyer <tom@momeyer.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Appreciate the work going into the TMG Refugees Rootsweb list and the >> Google Groups site. As I explored the google groups site, I found that >> clicking on a few of the weblinks leads to an internet virus attack that my >> Norton Antivirus software stops and reports. Examples for locations >> include some of the RootsMagic links on this page: >> https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees/software/support-documentation/rootsmagic. >> >> >> >> >> I copied some of the "links" noted above to notepad and see that the links >> do not look like real and they do look suspicious. >> >> >> >> So, I also noticed that all members are given "write" privileges, so >> perhaps this is how the bogus links crept in and must be one or more >> members with "ill" intent? >> >> >> >> Has this been discussed or considered by the google group founder or >> founders? Is it possible to have a google group allowing all member >> "write" access without associated virus risks? >> >> >> >> Reason I'm asking, is that this weekend, I'm attending a local TMG & SS >> user group meeting, where I have facilitated in the past and assisted >> others with TMG and SS issues, setup, customization, etc. I'm sure that >> TMG demise will come up, and I can offer some info on my explorations into >> RootsMagic, TMG Refugees, etc, but don't want to provide links to the >> google group that may have virus links built in. >> >> >> >> Thanks, Tom >> >> >> >> >> -- > Barbara Zanzig > TMG-REFUGEES list admin > admin email: *TMG-REFUGEES-admin@rootsweb.com > <TMG-REFUGEES-admin@rootsweb.com>* > list address: *http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.html > <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.html>* > list website: *https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees > <https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees>* > *** > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-REFUGEES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the message subject and body. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-REFUGEES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message