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    1. Re: [TMG-REFUGEES] Family entry mode
    2. Frlva via
    3. (I meant to send this also to the list. Sorry.) Thank you, Tom. I don't use either the Split Memo function in TMG. I don't use Roles, either. I never really thought either were necessary. Yes, however, folks *will* read my long Memos and even have done so! <g> I think I have about 90 pages (8 1/2 x 11 pages) in one Memo, but that is, by far, the longest one I have and is basically the Revolutionary War service of one ancestor for an eventual book. Would that be too much for Roots Magic? I also have some probates that extended for many, many years and some extensive court cases that could have "umpteen" depositions, etc. I also cannot do the southern migration work that I do without the (sort of) relationality of TMG, where I can attach as many Witnesses as I want to any event. This is the main way I track folks. I also just love the Associates window of TMG. Thanks very much for your comments, Tom. I appreciate them. Frankie In a message dated 9/24/2014 11:42:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tmg-refugees@rootsweb.com writes: TMG Memo fields transfer to RootsMagic Note fields which are, practically, unlimited. (There is always a limit but you will never reach it and nobody would read it!). Custom sentences and citations do transfer to RootsMagic but the accuracy of translation depends on what you have constructed. The use of split Memo fields is not yet supported by the import and may never be. I wrote a post-process query to adapt split Citation Details. That said, if Legacy succeeds in supporting split Memos, RootsMagic may feel pressed to do likewise. Explore your options. The free RootsMagic trial does the direct import, as will Legacy's (I expect) and as does Family Historian. They should all improve over time... Tom

    09/24/2014 06:38:04
    1. Re: [TMG-REFUGEES] Family entry mode - Associates window
    2. Barbara Levergood via
    3. I love the Associates window too, Frankie. I explored how RM and Legacy handle navigation to associates and posted my findings to our wiki. https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees/software/software-comparison/navigate-associates (Ask the ListAdmin if you would like access.) It appears that navigation to an associate can be done in RM, but the only way I found was rather roundabout. (As usual, please feel free to suggest alternatives!) It is not possible in Legacy (short of looking up the associate by name or number), so I made a request for the functionality. Barbara On 9/24/2014 12:38 PM, Frlva via wrote: > I also just love the Associates window of TMG. -- Barbara Levergood levergood@att.net

    09/24/2014 01:16:04
    1. Re: [TMG-REFUGEES] Family entry mode
    2. Tom Holden via
    3. Wow, Frankie! I would never have contemplated putting so much into a field named Memo or Note. Maybe one called Book! I was facetious in saying that the limit was far more than anyone would read and, maybe, too hasty in my reply. I was thinking about the RootsMagic database engine (SQLite) capacity which I knew to be very large and, on looking it up, is 140 terabytes. That's a lot of pages. But there are other limitations, such as the file size supported by the operating system, database parameter settings controlled by the application, the memory space supported by the application for a text field, etc. And there is a more practical matter, what the RootsMagic Note Editor is capable of doing and how well it can manage a document. RootsMagic's Note Editor is more like Notepad than it is like Wordpad. IIRC, if you open a text file with Notepad that is too large for it, Wordpad opens the file instead. I don't know what the RM Note Editor limit is but I certainly would not want to be editing/managing a 90-page document in it. Not even in Wordpad. I would want to do that in Word or some other substantial document writer with features such as outlining, headings, hyperlinking, auto table of contents, indexing, etc. I would not/could not store it in the database system as there is no mechanism in RootsMagic for directly storing it in RTF, DOC, PDF format (I could store it in the database file using SQLite but RootsMagic either could not see it or would not know how to render it). I could link the external document to the database as a media item (object), to as many persons, families, events, places, sources, citations as I want. I would copy supportive extracts from it to Citations (Research Notes), fact notes, etc and these can optionally be printed. I could integrate a RTF "book" generated from the database with one or more of these external documents using MS Word. So, my short answer to your question is I do not know if the RootsMagic Note field can store your 90 pages and it seems like an extraordinary, if not unreasonable, expectation that anyone would do so. It would be nice to know what its limit is - someday I may test it. Tom On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:38 PM, <Frlva@aol.com> wrote: > (I meant to send this also to the list. Sorry.) > > Thank you, Tom. I don't use either the Split Memo function in TMG. I > don't use Roles, either. I never really thought either were necessary. Yes, > however, folks *will* read my long Memos and even have done so! <g> I think > I have about 90 pages (8 1/2 x 11 pages) in one Memo, but that is, by far, > the longest one I have and is basically the Revolutionary War service of > one ancestor for an eventual book. Would that be too much for Roots Magic? > I also have some probates that extended for many, many years and some > extensive court cases that could have "umpteen" depositions, etc. > > I also cannot do the southern migration work that I do without the (sort > of) relationality of TMG, where I can attach as many Witnesses as I want to > any event. This is the main way I track folks. I also just love the > Associates window of TMG. > > Thanks very much for your comments, Tom. I appreciate them. > > Frankie > > In a message dated 9/24/2014 11:42:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > tmg-refugees@rootsweb.com writes: > > TMG Memo fields transfer to RootsMagic Note fields which are, practically, > unlimited. (There is always a limit but you will never reach it and nobody > would read it!). > > Custom sentences and citations do transfer to RootsMagic but the accuracy > of translation depends on what you have constructed. The use of split Memo > fields is not yet supported by the import and may never be. I wrote a > post-process query to adapt split Citation Details. That said, if Legacy > succeeds in supporting split Memos, RootsMagic may feel pressed to do > likewise. > > Explore your options. The free RootsMagic trial does the direct import, as > will Legacy's (I expect) and as does Family Historian. They should all > improve over time... > > Tom > > > >

    09/25/2014 04:02:17