Good morning all. I have a "one name study" database housed on my personal computer. There is another member of the group who is willing to take up TMG (I have two more licenses) to lend a hand with doing the upkeep. Now, when I'm at home, I can utilize the database from my PC and also from my laptop, by pointing both of the computers to a common file. So, the question is this. Is it possible to set up a cloud storage and have the files all stored there, and access them from two different computers (not at the same time)? D:\Mom's Documents\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName to NamethecCloud\MyStorage\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName As you could guess, I've not done much with cloud storage, but have access to a couple of terabytes there. Anyone done this? Pat Dunford Tucson

At 2/14/2019 13:16, kith-n-kin@cox.net wrote >Good morning all. I have a "one name study" database housed on my >personal computer. >There is another member of the group who is willing to take up TMG >(I have two more licenses) to lend a hand with doing the upkeep. > >Now, when I'm at home, I can utilize the database from my PC and >also from my laptop, by pointing both of the computers to a common >file. So, the question is this. > >Is it possible to set up a cloud storage and have the files all >stored there, and access them from two different computers (not at >the same time)? > >D:\Mom's Documents\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName to > > NamethecCloud\MyStorage\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName > >As you could guess, I've not done much with cloud storage, but have >access to a couple of terabytes there. > >Anyone done this? TMG permits networked use of project files. I do not think that the Cloud would qualify for this although I have never tried it. I have used to same project files viw a home network, and even accessed it while traveling. When I traveled, I had to sign in to the home network in order to make things work. Back in 2005 after TMG v5.0 was released, Warren Culpepper did some experimenting and wrote a case study report of his findings. That is available via a link at <http://www.tmgtips.com/tmgw_v510.htm#MULTIPLE%20USERS>. As noted, this was 2005 and was before the Cloud. The principles he mentioned are still applicable for TMG v9.05. Actually, later versions of Windows makes setting up networks a lot easier. Lee

Thank you, Lee. This describes what I was wanting to do. Fortunately, my co-lead on this project much more conversant in these matters. Pat

At 2/14/2019 14:59, kith-n-kin@cox.net wrote >Thank you, Lee. This describes what I was wanting to do. >Fortunately, my co-lead on this project much more conversant in these matters. Note that in a network, two persons can access the same TMG project at the same time. However, they are restricted in what records can be accessed. When person A opens a record, that record is locked by TMG and person B is prevented from accessing that same record until person A "releases the record (saves [any changes] or exits by cancelling) Lee

I have a fading memory of two fellows who did a version of this and reported to the TMG forum (before active support ended). A backup was sent to the cloud by guy one, and a notice was sent to the other guy, guy two downloaded the backup, opened it and did work, made a fresh backup, and sent it up the cloud and so on. On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:17 AM <kith-n-kin@cox.net> wrote: > Good morning all. I have a "one name study" database housed on my personal > computer. > There is another member of the group who is willing to take up TMG (I have > two more licenses) to lend a hand with doing the upkeep. > > Now, when I'm at home, I can utilize the database from my PC and also from > my laptop, by pointing both of the computers to a common file. So, the > question is this. > > Is it possible to set up a cloud storage and have the files all stored > there, and access them from two different computers (not at the same time)? > > D:\Mom's Documents\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName to > > NamethecCloud\MyStorage\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName > > As you could guess, I've not done much with cloud storage, but have access > to a couple of terabytes there. > > Anyone done this? > > Pat Dunford > Tucson > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Karen Willard President & Computer Archivist for the Willard Family Association of America, Inc. One-Name Study: Willard (Williard, Willyard)

Thanks, Karen! This would be my "push comes to shove" method, but I'm hoping for a "live" process. I did the backup on computer a, send backup to b, b opens and does the same, on my own computers. BUT, brain fade...gotta remember which iteration is "live" so you don't wind up with mis-matched databases. Pat

At 2/14/2019 6:16 PM, kith-n-kin@cox.net wrote: > >Is it possible to set up a cloud storage and have the files all stored >there, and access them from two different computers (not at the same time)? > I avoid cloud storage -- but believe most such systems operate on a copy/save procedure, and not on a "live I/O" scheme. Since TMG projects are 80+ individual files, and the database engine opens/closes them throughout operations (opening an event tag will result in retrieving data from place data, witness data, citation data) I suspect the cloud system won't suffice -- unless you can mount the cloud location as a "drive" (that is, you can use "This PC" [or "My Computer" if old enough], and Map Network Drive). Safest is the tedious method of creating a back-up; copy the back-up to the cloud; friend then copies from the cloud, restores [will help to have the same directory structure on both computers], does changes, back-up and copy to cloud to return it to you, and you then restore that back-up for use.

On 2/14/19 1:16 PM, kith-n-kin@cox.net wrote: > Good morning all. I have a "one name study" database housed on my personal computer. > There is another member of the group who is willing to take up TMG (I have two more licenses) to lend a hand with doing the upkeep. > > Now, when I'm at home, I can utilize the database from my PC and also from my laptop, by pointing both of the computers to a common file. So, the question is this. > > Is it possible to set up a cloud storage and have the files all stored there, and access them from two different computers (not at the same time)? > > D:\Mom's Documents\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName to > > NamethecCloud\MyStorage\The Master Genealogist v905\Projects\ProjectName > > As you could guess, I've not done much with cloud storage, but have access to a couple of terabytes there. > > Anyone done this? > > Pat Dunford > Tucson Using 'typical' cloud storage methods that keep files locally and sync to the cloud are a recipe for corrupting your database, as they don't understand the needs of the database. Transferring backups is the safe method, you only need to keep clear who 'owns' the data at a given time so there is no issue with two sets of edits at the same time. One method that I do remember someone doing was setting up a WAN fileshare (similar to accessing the database on the disk of a computer on your local network using a file share, but at longer distances, which is safe). The one issue here is that the access to the database will be significantly slower, so you will experience some lags in editing. Doing this would also allow the two people to be editing at the same time, you just can't be editing the same records at once, TMG fully support record level locking in the database. -- Richard Damon