On 3 February 2019, Terry Reigel wrote: "Remember that a "place" consists of an entry with all values being exactly the same. If the entry in any field is different, a new "place" is created. Thus, every time you enter a new Detail - street address for example - you create a new place. Likewise, if you omit any field, say county, state, or country, or add a field, say LatLong, you create a new place. "Beginning there, when you press F2 you are not bringing up the Master Place List. You are bringing up a specialized list of place fragments starting from the field you were in when you pressed that key. Each of those fragments may appear in several different "places" as defined above. That is, when you see "Alexandria, Douglas County, Minnesota" listed because you have pressed F2 from the City field, that may be a part of dozens of different "places" with different values in the Details field. "The "frequency" column in that list does not mean the number of times that place is entered, but rather the number of "places" that place fragment appears in. The number after a city/county/state entry will only increase when you add a new Detail with that same city/county/state." …. Thanks, Terry, for the clarification as to what the numbers in the “frequency” column represent. I was aware that any change in details, including typos, creates a new “place.” Typing “Alexandria” in the “city” space brings up ten places using F2, including several with GPS coordinates and cities in Virginia and South Dakota. Joel

Joel Watne commented: > Typing “Alexandria” in the “city” space brings up ten places using F2, > including several with GPS coordinates and cities in Virginia and South Dakota. No, Joel, F2 does not bring up ten "places" in your example. As Terry wrote, what F2 produces is "a specialized list of place *fragments* starting from the field you were in when you pressed that key." In fact only if one enters data in a very strict way and uses F2 in an extremely limited way will it ever bring up "places". The following is from the beginning of the section in my "Data Entry" chapter of my on-line book where I describe usage of the F2 key in a location field of a tag entry screen. See: https://www.mjh-nm.net/DATENTRY.HTML#F2Code "Unwanted duplicates or unwanted changes to the MPL are often introduced due to the clever and (probably) useful but non-intuitive (to me) functioning of the F2 key as it applies to searching for existing places. In searching for an existing place in the MPL, F2 finds all entries that match what is entered in the field containing the cursor and _higher_ level fields from that point on. All _lower_ level fields are left blank even though the MPL may have multiple matching entries with non-blank lower fields. They are left blank because TMG has no way to determine which one you want. The only way to ensure that when you use F2 you search the _entire_ MPL is to force a non-blank value in the Addressee [L1] field of _every_ place, and always put your cursor in a blank [L1] field when you use F2." It is because of this (non-intuitive) functioning of the F2 key that I enter a custom "F2 sort code" value in [L1] of *every* MPL "place". Because *all* of my "places" have this non-blank [L1], when I press F2 in a blank [L1] of a tag entry screen its "specialized list of place fragments" now contains every MPL "place" sorted by the values in [L1]. I find [F2] used this way allows me to find any existing "place" to be selected and thus copied into the tag entry fields. Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

I am not at my computer but I recall a report that may be titled "places" or something like that where you can edit the addresses which worked very well for me. You can sort your data by detail, city, county, state or country etc. You can edit from the report saving you the effort to go back to the person to make the edits.Leo Glueckstein 920 698 1669Sent from my U.S.Cellular© Smartphone S9 -------- Original message --------From: "Michael J. Hannah" <mjh@rr-nm.net> Date: 2/4/19 3:10 PM (GMT-05:00) To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Cc: BARB & JOEL WATNE <j.watne@comcast.net> Subject: [TMG] Re: Number of Citations in Master Place List Joel Watne commented:> Typing “Alexandria” in the “city” space brings up ten places using F2,> including several with GPS coordinates and cities in Virginia and South Dakota.No, Joel, F2 does not bring up ten "places" in your example.  As Terry wrote, what F2 produces is "a specialized list of place *fragments* starting from the field you were in when you pressed that key."  In fact only if one enters data in a very strict way and uses F2 in an extremely limited way will it ever bring up "places".The following is from the beginning of the section in my "Data Entry" chapter of my on-line book where I describe usage of the F2 key in a location field of a tag entry screen.  See:https://www.mjh-nm.net/DATENTRY.HTML#F2Code"Unwanted duplicates or unwanted changes to the MPL are often introduced due to the clever and (probably) useful but non-intuitive (to me) functioning of the F2 key as it applies to searching for existing places. In searching for an existing place in the MPL, F2 finds all entries that match what is entered in the field containing the cursor and _higher_ level fields from that point on. All _lower_ level fields are left blank even though the MPL may have multiple matching entries with non-blank lower fields. They are left blank because TMG has no way to determine which one you want. The only way to ensure that when you use F2 you search the _entire_ MPL is to force a non-blank value in the Addressee [L1] field of _every_ place, and always put your cursor in a blank [L1] field when you use F2."It is because of this (non-intuitive) functioning of the F2 key that I enter a custom "F2 sort code" value in [L1] of *every* MPL "place". Because *all* of my "places" have this non-blank [L1], when I press F2 in a blank [L1] of a tag entry screen its "specialized list of place fragments" now contains every MPL "place" sorted by the values in [L1].   I find [F2] used this way allows me to find any existing "place" to be selected and thus copied into the tag entry fields.Hope this gives you ideas,Michael_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

On 2/4/2019 4:44 PM, leoglue wrote: > I am not at my computer but I recall a report that may be titled "places" or something like that where you can edit the addresses which worked very well for me. You can sort your data by detail, city, county, state or country etc. You can edit from the report saving you the effort to go back to the person to make the edits. Leo, What you are describing is not a Report, but the Master Place List. But I'm not seeing how that relates to Joel's question. Terry

I stand corrected. I liked editing in the master place list. I thought he could do his editing from there.Leo Glueckstein 920 698 1669Sent from my U.S.Cellular© Smartphone S9 -------- Original message --------From: Terry Reigel <terry@reigelridge.com> Date: 2/4/19 5:16 PM (GMT-05:00) To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TMG] Re: Number of Citations in Master Place List On 2/4/2019 4:44 PM, leoglue wrote:> I am not at my computer but I recall a report that may be titled "places" or something like that where you can edit the addresses which worked very well for me. You can sort your data by detail, city, county, state or country etc. You can edit from the report saving you the effort to go back to the person to make the edits.Leo,What you are describing is not a Report, but the Master Place List. But I'm not seeing how that relates to Joel's question.Terry_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 2/4/2019 4:44 PM, leoglue wrote: >I am not at my computer but I recall a report that may be titled "places" >or something like that where you can edit the addresses which worked very >well for me. You can sort your data by detail, city, county, state or >country etc. You can edit from the report saving you the effort to go back >to the person to make the edits.Leo Glueckstein 920 698 1669Sent from my > U.S.Cellular© Smartphone S9 To my knowledge NONE of the TMG "reports" provide a feature for data editing (except if exporting as CSV -- as that can be imported into Excel... But getting the edits back into TMG is a different matter). I suspect you are referring to Tools/ Master Place List -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/