Thanks to Terry I'm now very happily using the NarrativeChildren tag. I'm trying to create another Role for this tag, called Family, which will enable me to include children who don't have a formal legal relationship of any sort with the parents To do this I'd like to have the full name of the relevant child appear (as his/her surname is generally different to the rest of the family). This is currently my sentence: [:TAB:]The family of [P] <and [PO]> included:[:NP:] I've tried using [NP - what does this stand for?] or [P] or [S] at the end but still get just 1st name/s. Can I get surnames in this sentence? The second problem is that if I do manage to have output with surnames I guess that will apply to all 'children' in this particular family, birth and any others. Can I make the NarrativeChildren tag apply to just one child? Thanks in advance Ann -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Reigel via Sent: Monday, 5 October 2015 4:31 AM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] Journal reports - "There was no issue of X and Y" On 10/4/2015 12:44 PM, Ann Carson via wrote: > In a journal report, is there any way I can stop TMG from including > the sentence "There was no issue of X and Y" (without creating a false > child) Ann, Yes, there is. You have to add a NarrativeChildren Tag for the couple. With it, you can either create an alternate statement that is correct or use the [:NONE:] variable to just suppress the statement. Details are in my article at http://tmg.reigelridge.com/NarrativeChildren.htm Terry Reigel The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 10/6/"2015 12:10 AM, Ann Carson wrote: > Thanks to Terry I'm now very happily using the NarrativeChildren tag. You're welcome, Ann. > I'm trying to create another Role for this tag, called Family, which will > enable me to include children who don't have a formal legal relationship of > any sort with the parents > > To do this I'd like to have the full name of the relevant child appear (as > his/her surname is generally different to the rest of the family). This is > currently my sentence: > [:TAB:]The family of [P] <and [PO]> included:[:NP:] > > I've tried using [NP - what does this stand for?] or [P] or [S] at the end > but still get just 1st name/s. > > Can I get surnames in this sentence? > > The second problem is that if I do manage to have output with surnames I > guess that will apply to all 'children' in this particular family, birth and > any others. Can I make the NarrativeChildren tag apply to just one child? The NarrativeChildren Tag replaces the "children of X & Y were..." statement automatically generated by the Journal. So it applies to the parents, not to the children. the [:NP:] code means "No change to Punctuation," that is, don't "correct" the final punctuation supplied by the user. Without it, your final colon would be removed and replaced with a period. It has nothing to do with any of the other output of the Sentence. The [P] and [PO] variables, like in any Sentence, produce the names of the two Principals in the NarrativeChildren Tag, that is the parents. The NarrativeChildren Tag has noting to do with the list of children that follows (except for the [:NoBirthPlaces:] code that suppresses the birthplaces in the children's statements). That list is still generated by the Journal as usual. It includes all children for whom these parents are primary, and shows only their given names. I can think of a couple of ways to address your issue. The easiest is to include the [M] variable in your Sentence, and put something in the Memo field that explains. For example, you might say: "Jane and Sue were adopted, and continued to use the surname Smith" or something like that. You also build this into the Sentence by adding the adopted (or whatever) children as Witnesses and include something like this in the Sentence: <[WO] were adopted> which would put the full names in the output, although you would need a separate Role for only one adopted child. Be sure to put an exclusion mark in the Sentence of the Witnesses. Alternatively, you could not make the "parents" the primary parents of the unrelated children, and put the adopted or whatever children directly in the NarrativeChildren Tag. They would not then be directly in the list of children, but could be included in another format. For example, you could something like this, either in the Memo or the Sentence: "In addition to their biological children, there household included X and Y, who were adopted" In this construction, the names could either be typed into the Memo or Sentence exactly as they are to appear, or the children could be entered as Witnesses, optionally with custom Roles, and referred to by means of Role Variables. The wording of course would be customized to suit the family. If you want, the names of these children could be put on a separate line rather than the main one by adding [:CR:] and [:TAB:] codes. I don't think you could format them exactly like the list of children, but you could make them appear separately if you want. Terry Reigel