Thanks, Evelyn.  That's a big help.  My son-in-law is purchasing a new computer.  He said it will have Win8 on it.  He will upgrade to Win10.  I will then copy over my regular files.  I really don't have that much.  I will need to install programs such as Skype, Adobe, Word (Office Suite) and my virus stuff (Norton, CCleaner, Malwarebytes).  I have a subscription to Ring-a-Geek.  They can probably help. Bud From: Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock via <tmg@rootsweb.com> To: tmg@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TMG] New Computer I think there is a big gap opening up between the experts and the busy but simple minded users who prefer to leave operating systems alone. I agree that one should read Terry's advice. But I think that there is a danger of over complicating the whole process. I did do a couple of things wrong but they were rectified and explained to me by experts on the Wholly Genes Forum in the section on TMG 9 - I suggest that you read those threads. You should have no need to worry about Windows 8 and 10. I bought a Windows 8 lap top. I copied the exe file to a stick, then to the new computer and installed TMG just as one would to any new computer. Like you, I was anxious about the upgrade to Windows 10 and arranged to have professional help from my seller. There was no need. Microsoft are rolling out the upgrade. I registered for the upgrade (from the lap top in question) and then waited until I was notified that my turn had come. The upgrade reinstalled all my software including TMG 9 complete with its serial number and files. All the software was installed just as it had been in Windows 8. As you can see from the threads on the Wholly Genes forum - there are three things that might go wrong. First, your new installation may repeatedly forget its serial number. When you want to open the software after boot up you need to right click on the icon and select run as administrator. Then enter your user name and serial number which will then be remembered. There is a kind  explanation of why you need to do this on the Wholly Genes forum. It is the result of added security on the later issues of Windows, ensuring that significant alterations are made only by someone who actually identifies themselves as the administrator for that session. Next you may lose your custom settings for the TMG layout colours etc. etc. You need to transfer these by making a back up file ***.sqz that includes settings and data anbd then restoring it in TMG on your new computer. I did nothing to change the settings on the new computer and made no attempt to reproduce the paths I had previously used in Windows 7 when moving to Windows 8. I have customised task bars and lay outs - and if you too have these, you will find the Wholly Genes forum has the guidance I was given for copying them to the new computer. Again I used a memory stick and pasted them into the directory which already held the TMG files of the same type. It is helpful if you set your Windows to show the file type extensions. The default is to hide them. The final glitch may affect backing up. It is a result of the new paths (file arrangements) on the new computer. You need to alter them for each project by going into the File / Current Project Preferences/ Advanced and clicking on the dots in the back up line. One is offered the same opportunity to make an alteration to the back up destination if one chooses to back up on exiting the Project - but doing it at that moment has no effect. You have to do it via the file menu. I made no other alterations and it could well be that there will be some other details that need attention. But my policy is to leave the new Windows (8 first and then 10) to arrange things in its own way, to  let it install itself and not paste in whole new directories. May be it was because I accepted the defaults that  the subsequent automised upgrade to Windows 10 was problem free. Minor details of TMG installation are simple to rectify but fiddling about with the operating system is a different matter. I never made mirror images and dont understand what they are. I did however copy and or back up all my projects. If something does go really wrong, most modern computers have an option to return them to factory settings. I hope this is helpful and will reassure you. Evelyn Wilcock Genealogy site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wilcock/ The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Russell - It helps when moving TMG files - or just using the program -to understand the TMG Data File Storage system. When it was first implemented in TMG several years ago I wrote an article explaining the system and listing what files are in each folder. This is a Word document which you can download. There may have been minor changes in files, but the 3-folder system remains the same. If anyone spots anything that should be updated, let me know. The link is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/txd6404mcwvmhip/tmg7dfs.doc?dl=0 Virginia On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Russell Dorr via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thanks, Evelyn. That's a big help. My son-in-law is purchasing a new computer. He said it will have Win8 on it. He will upgrade to Win10. I will then copy over my regular files. I really don't have that much. I will need to install programs such as Skype, Adobe, Word (Office Suite) and my virus stuff (Norton, CCleaner, Malwarebytes). I have a subscription to Ring-a-Geek. They can probably help. > Bud From: Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock via <tmg@rootsweb.com> > To: tmg@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: [TMG] New Computer > > > I think there is a big gap opening up between the experts and the busy but simple minded users who prefer to leave operating systems alone. > > > > I agree that one should read Terry's advice. But I think that there is a danger of over complicating the whole process. > > > I did do a couple of things wrong but they were rectified and explained to me by experts on the Wholly Genes Forum in the section on TMG 9 - I suggest that you read those threads. > > > You should have no need to worry about Windows 8 and 10. I bought a Windows 8 lap top. I copied the exe file to a stick, then to the new computer and installed TMG just as one would to any new computer. > > > Like you, I was anxious about the upgrade to Windows 10 and arranged to have professional help from my seller. There was no need. Microsoft are rolling out the upgrade. I registered for the upgrade (from the lap top in question) and then waited until I was notified that my turn had come. The upgrade reinstalled all my software including TMG 9 complete with its serial number and files. All the software was installed just as it had been in Windows 8. > > > > > As you can see from the threads on the Wholly Genes forum - there are three things that might go wrong. > > > First, your new installation may repeatedly forget its serial number. When you want to open the software after boot up you need to right click on the icon and select run as administrator. Then enter your user name and serial number which will then be remembered. There is a kind explanation of why you need to do this on the Wholly Genes forum. It is the result of added security on the later issues of Windows, ensuring that significant alterations are made only by someone who actually identifies themselves as the administrator for that session. > > > Next you may lose your custom settings for the TMG layout colours etc. etc. You need to transfer these by making a back up file ***.sqz that includes settings and data anbd then restoring it in TMG on your new computer. > > > I did nothing to change the settings on the new computer and made no attempt to reproduce the paths I had previously used in Windows 7 when moving to Windows 8. I have customised task bars and lay outs - and if you too have these, you will find the Wholly Genes forum has the guidance I was given for copying them to the new computer. Again I used a memory stick and pasted them into the directory which already held the TMG files of the same type. It is helpful if you set your Windows to show the file type extensions. The default is to hide them. > > The final glitch may affect backing up. It is a result of the new paths (file arrangements) on the new computer. You need to alter them for each project by going into the File / Current Project Preferences/ Advanced and clicking on the dots in the back up line. One is offered the same opportunity to make an alteration to the back up destination if one chooses to back up on exiting the Project - but doing it at that moment has no effect. You have to do it via the file menu. > > > I made no other alterations and it could well be that there will be some other details that need attention. > > > But my policy is to leave the new Windows (8 first and then 10) to arrange things in its own way, to let it install itself and not paste in whole new directories. May be it was because I accepted the defaults that the subsequent automised upgrade to Windows 10 was problem free. > > > Minor details of TMG installation are simple to rectify but fiddling about with the operating system is a different matter. I never made mirror images and dont understand what they are. I did however copy and or back up all my projects. If something does go really wrong, most modern computers have an option to return them to factory settings. > > > I hope this is helpful and will reassure you. > > > Evelyn Wilcock > > > Genealogy site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wilcock/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message