Here's a corner case where the Birth Order flags were quite helpful... My grandmother and one of my grand-aunts were twins (born on the same day). The Birth Order flags allowed me to keep their sort date equal to their birth date but keep their birth order correct. (I set the flags for their siblings as well, just for consistency, even though their birth order is set by their birth dates.) Obviously, I could have changed sort dates to keep the birth order correct, but I didn't want to - just a personal preference, nothing more. In this case, since I knew all the siblings and their birth dates, the Birth Order flags were "set and forget". Brian -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sally v Houston Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:52 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TMG] Family Group Sheet Report Quations Sounds like a good reason not to use Birth Order flags, just use sort dates to keep them in order, then if that is changed, it won't be necessary to change the flags. On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY <[email protected]> wrote: > At 12/13/2017 15:02, Chuck Wolfram wrote > >> From what I understand of the history the Birth Order flag was >> included as a feature before we had sort dates. When I began using >> TMG they already had sort dates and I have never used that flag. Just >> use sort dates and they accomplish the same thing and more---the >> right place (according to you) on the parent's page. That flag can be >> safely ignored. >> > > One other point about the Birth Order Flag is that it will override > any Sort Date sequencing. So if you have say three children as follows: > Child A (b. 1846) Birth Order Flag 1 > Child B (b. 1848) Birth Order Flag 2 > Child C (no birth Tag) (Birth Order Flag 3) The children will sort > according to the Birth Order Flag. > > You now learn the birth date for the third child and it happens to be > that the child is actually the first born. You add a Birth Tag giving > it a Sort Date of 1844 then the children will still sort by the Birth > Order Flag because you forgot to change the Birth Order Flag numbering. > > Lee > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all of you for further elucidating the use (and not) of Birth Flags. Greg On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Brian Gross <[email protected]> wrote: > Here's a corner case where the Birth Order flags were quite helpful... > > My grandmother and one of my grand-aunts were twins (born on the same day). > The Birth Order flags allowed me to keep their sort date equal to their > birth date but keep their birth order correct. (I set the flags for their > siblings as well, just for consistency, even though their birth order is > set > by their birth dates.) Obviously, I could have changed sort dates to keep > the birth order correct, but I didn't want to - just a personal preference, > nothing more. > > In this case, since I knew all the siblings and their birth dates, the > Birth > Order flags were "set and forget". > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of sally v Houston > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:52 PM > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TMG] Family Group Sheet Report Quations > > Sounds like a good reason not to use Birth Order flags, just use sort dates > to keep them in order, then if that is changed, it won't be necessary to > change the flags. > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > At 12/13/2017 15:02, Chuck Wolfram wrote > > > >> From what I understand of the history the Birth Order flag was > >> included as a feature before we had sort dates. When I began using > >> TMG they already had sort dates and I have never used that flag. Just > >> use sort dates and they accomplish the same thing and more---the > >> right place (according to you) on the parent's page. That flag can be > >> safely ignored. > >> > > > > One other point about the Birth Order Flag is that it will override > > any Sort Date sequencing. So if you have say three children as follows: > > Child A (b. 1846) Birth Order Flag 1 > > Child B (b. 1848) Birth Order Flag 2 > > Child C (no birth Tag) (Birth Order Flag 3) The children will sort > > according to the Birth Order Flag. > > > > You now learn the birth date for the third child and it happens to be > > that the child is actually the first born. You add a Birth Tag giving > > it a Sort Date of 1844 then the children will still sort by the Birth > > Order Flag because you forgot to change the Birth Order Flag numbering. > > > > Lee > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > > try.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I suspect the answer is in the negative but am wondering if there is any way to send the output of the Duplicate Persons check to a report or file? And if so, is it possible to only output those suspected matches that I have not already 'asserted' are not duplicates? Tom On 14/12/2017 03:45, Brian Gross wrote: > Here's a corner case where the Birth Order flags were quite helpful... > > My grandmother and one of my grand-aunts were twins (born on the same day). > The Birth Order flags allowed me to keep their sort date equal to their > birth date but keep their birth order correct. (I set the flags for their > siblings as well, just for consistency, even though their birth order is set > by their birth dates.) Obviously, I could have changed sort dates to keep > the birth order correct, but I didn't want to - just a personal preference, > nothing more. > > In this case, since I knew all the siblings and their birth dates, the Birth > Order flags were "set and forget". > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of sally v Houston > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:52 PM > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TMG] Family Group Sheet Report Quations > > Sounds like a good reason not to use Birth Order flags, just use sort dates > to keep them in order, then if that is changed, it won't be necessary to > change the flags. > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> At 12/13/2017 15:02, Chuck Wolfram wrote >> >>> From what I understand of the history the Birth Order flag was >>> included as a feature before we had sort dates. When I began using >>> TMG they already had sort dates and I have never used that flag. Just >>> use sort dates and they accomplish the same thing and more---the >>> right place (according to you) on the parent's page. That flag can be >>> safely ignored. >>> >> One other point about the Birth Order Flag is that it will override >> any Sort Date sequencing. So if you have say three children as follows: >> Child A (b. 1846) Birth Order Flag 1 >> Child B (b. 1848) Birth Order Flag 2 >> Child C (no birth Tag) (Birth Order Flag 3) The children will sort >> according to the Birth Order Flag. >> >> You now learn the birth date for the third child and it happens to be >> that the child is actually the first born. You add a Birth Tag giving >> it a Sort Date of 1844 then the children will still sort by the Birth >> Order Flag because you forgot to change the Birth Order Flag numbering. >> >> Lee >> >> The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances >> try.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >