Lindsay, As we discussed off-list, I suspected that your TMG project had some corrupted Tag Type entries. After inspecting your project, I can confirm that is the case. Without going into too much detail, the "L=ENGLISH" section for the Baptism and Engagement Tag Types was not constructed properly. Each Tag Type has entries for multiple languages. For those two Tag Types, some of the contents of the L=ENGLISH section are there, but the header for the section is not. I cannot determine how the entries got broken. I vaguely recall some bugs related to the role/sentence storage in TMG projects, but I don't remember the details. I have fixed the entries and I will send you back a repaired SQZ file in the next few minutes. That will be off-list, of course. John

John Cardinal, you have provided wonderful help -- a thank you seems so inadequate, but thank you nevertheless. The problem seems to be partially fixed, but not fully.  After using the repaired files you sent, I went through the following sequence: 1. made the limited site in SS -- 15 Role not found errors, which were all for the custom tags Image and Court (ie, those for the standard tags Baptism and Engagement did not recur); 2. made an SS site of all people in my project -- 102 (the maximum) Role not found errors, all for Baptism, Engagement, Court and Image tag types; 3. went through the Baptism and Engagement tag types in TMG and successfully added the dummy sentences to each role; 4. went through the Court and Image tag types in TMG and tried unsuccessfully to add the dummy sentences to each role -- as before, they disappeared as soon as I exited the Roles and Sentences tab, although they remain in the Sentence and Witness Sentence fields of the previous screen; 5. repeated step 1 -- same result as above; 6. repeated step 2 -- only 58 Role not found errors, all for the custom Court and Image tag types (ie, the Baptism and Engagement errors did not recur). All this suggests that John successfully identified the problem for the standard Baptism and Engagement tag types, but may not have fixed (or tried to fix) the custom Court and Image tag types.  Is there anything you can do with that, John?  Can you work with the file I sent you or should I send another similar? Questions that occur to me are: * did the corruptions in the tag type entries arise from something I did? or was it just another unsolved computer mystery? * any idea how/why it arose in 4 tag types and no others? * is there anything I can do to prevent the problem recurring in the future? Lindsay (in a sweltering summer Canberra) On 23/1/18 04:34, John Cardinal wrote: > Lindsay, > > As we discussed off-list, I suspected that your TMG project had some corrupted Tag Type entries. After inspecting your project, I can confirm that is the case. Without going into too much detail, the "L=ENGLISH" section for the Baptism and Engagement Tag Types was not constructed properly. Each Tag Type has entries for multiple languages. For those two Tag Types, some of the contents of the L=ENGLISH section are there, but the header for the section is not. > > I cannot determine how the entries got broken. I vaguely recall some bugs related to the role/sentence storage in TMG projects, but I don't remember the details. > > I have fixed the entries and I will send you back a repaired SQZ file in the next few minutes. That will be off-list, of course. > > John >

Lindsay, For some reason, I skipped over the "Court" and "Image" tag types when reading the message you sent me, so I didn't know they were broken and I didn't fix them. If I repair the files you already sent me, you'll lose whatever you have done since then, like adding roles that were missing or had empty sentences. Given you don't care about the actual content of the sentence templates, you can use the approach Marc suggested: - In TMG, Make a backup of your project. - In TMG, create new event types "Court2" and "Image2". Make sure you define all the existing roles in both of the new tag types. - In TMG Utility, change the event types for "Court" to "Court2" and "Image" to "Image2". - In TMG, delete the "Court" and "Image" tag types. - In TMG, rename "Court2" to "Court", and "Image2" to "Image". John

Lindsay , Why not create 2 new tag types, say Court2 and Image2? Recreate all the sentences you have previously defined for these tags. Then use TMG Utilities to change all instances of Court and Image to the new tag types. When all is done, delete the original tag types and then rename the new ones back to their original names. Especially if you do not have too many sentences defined for these 2 tag types, it might be worth the trouble. Marc > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Lindsay Graham > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TMG] Disappearing role sentences > > John Cardinal, you have provided wonderful help -- a thank you seems so > inadequate, but thank you nevertheless. > > The problem seems to be partially fixed, but not fully.  After using the > repaired files you sent, I went through the following sequence: > > 1. made the limited site in SS -- 15 Role not found errors, which were all for > the custom tags Image and Court (ie, those for the standard tags Baptism and > Engagement did not recur); 2. made an SS site of all people in my project -- > 102 (the maximum) Role not found errors, all for Baptism, Engagement, Court > and Image tag types; 3. went through the Baptism and Engagement tag types > in TMG and successfully added the dummy sentences to each role; 4. went > through the Court and Image tag types in TMG and tried unsuccessfully to add > the dummy sentences to each role -- as before, they disappeared as soon as I > exited the Roles and Sentences tab, although they remain in the Sentence and > Witness Sentence fields of the previous screen; 5. repeated step 1 -- same > result as above; 6. repeated step 2 -- only 58 Role not found errors, all for > the custom Court and Image tag types (ie, the Baptism and Engagement errors > did not recur). > > All this suggests that John successfully identified the problem for the standard > Baptism and Engagement tag types, but may not have fixed (or tried to fix) the > custom Court and Image tag types.  Is there anything you can do with that, > John?  Can you work with the file I sent you or should I send another similar? > > Questions that occur to me are: > > * did the corruptions in the tag type entries arise from something I did? or > was it just another unsolved computer mystery? > * any idea how/why it arose in 4 tag types and no others? > * is there anything I can do to prevent the problem recurring in the future? > > Lindsay (in a sweltering summer Canberra) > > > On 23/1/18 04:34, John Cardinal wrote: > > Lindsay, > > > > As we discussed off-list, I suspected that your TMG project had some > corrupted Tag Type entries. After inspecting your project, I can confirm that is > the case. Without going into too much detail, the "L=ENGLISH" section for the > Baptism and Engagement Tag Types was not constructed properly. Each Tag > Type has entries for multiple languages. For those two Tag Types, some of the > contents of the L=ENGLISH section are there, but the header for the section is > not. > > > > I cannot determine how the entries got broken. I vaguely recall some bugs > related to the role/sentence storage in TMG projects, but I don't remember > the details. > > > > I have fixed the entries and I will send you back a repaired SQZ file in the > next few minutes. That will be off-list, of course. > > > > John > > > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message