John and all, All things are working on the newly installed v9.05 (until I attempt to restore a sqz file) As requested, I renamed the sqz file to a zip file and opened it via explorer. There are several subdirectories some of which contain many files. No obvious errors. I'm not sure how to restore a file onto my desktop as in a nutshell, I can't restore any sqz file created using v9.04 or 9.05. See above for details The restore process begins failing on Step 5 of the Restore Wizard. Could this be a subdirectory problem? I have installed many versions of TMG (even before Windows) but ave only taken the default directories Thanks all for considering my dilemma, Roger On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:19 PM John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: > Roger, > > I haven't followed all the details in this thread so my apologies > if this has already come up. > > Are other things working OK in the new TMG 9.05 installation on > your laptop? For example, the Sample project. > > Have you tried restoring that backup file into a test area on > your desktop? > > I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but the .sqz file is > just a zip archive. If you make a copy and change the extension to > .zip, a zip utility (probably built into Windows 7? can't remember > for sure) could be run on it to see if any errors. > > John Cordes > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 08:04:18PM -0400, Roger Troutman wrote: > > The semicolon was a typo in my email. Only default directories are used. > > > > Worse news: When I tried restoring the file again, the wizard aborted > > during Step 5. It so doing, all my projects were deleted from the > default > > directory. Luckily I had other projects backed up elsewhere and was able > > to point to them. > > > > Just noticed that in the Step 5 window, the entry for "Current File" is > > blank. Don't know whether this is before but definitely after the first > > error message.i.e. don't know if it is blank before the process begins or > > whether it is blank because it can't find a file to work on. > > > > Still can't restore any project from a sqz file. > > > > Roger > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:19 PM TawayGMail <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Roger Troutman > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:31 PM > > > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List > > > Subject: [TMG] Restoration of a SQZ file problem. > > > > > > I am attempting to transfer a desktop sqz file from TMG 9.05 to a > laptop > > > running 9.04 > > > > > > 1) I manually created the above unfound path i.e.: > > > C;\users\Roger\Documents\the master genealogist v9\exhibits. Of course > > > this path is empty. Also created similar path for Projects. > > > > > > > > > I assume that the semi-colon in your path after C is a typo > (C;\use...). > > > Check that your project defaults and default project locations have a > > > colon > > > "C:\use..." in preferences. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Roger, I haven't followed all the details in this thread so my apologies if this has already come up. Are other things working OK in the new TMG 9.05 installation on your laptop? For example, the Sample project. Have you tried restoring that backup file into a test area on your desktop? I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but the .sqz file is just a zip archive. If you make a copy and change the extension to .zip, a zip utility (probably built into Windows 7? can't remember for sure) could be run on it to see if any errors. John Cordes On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 08:04:18PM -0400, Roger Troutman wrote: > The semicolon was a typo in my email. Only default directories are used. > > Worse news: When I tried restoring the file again, the wizard aborted > during Step 5. It so doing, all my projects were deleted from the default > directory. Luckily I had other projects backed up elsewhere and was able > to point to them. > > Just noticed that in the Step 5 window, the entry for "Current File" is > blank. Don't know whether this is before but definitely after the first > error message.i.e. don't know if it is blank before the process begins or > whether it is blank because it can't find a file to work on. > > Still can't restore any project from a sqz file. > > Roger > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:19 PM TawayGMail <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roger Troutman > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:31 PM > > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List > > Subject: [TMG] Restoration of a SQZ file problem. > > > > I am attempting to transfer a desktop sqz file from TMG 9.05 to a laptop > > running 9.04 > > > > 1) I manually created the above unfound path i.e.: > > C;\users\Roger\Documents\the master genealogist v9\exhibits. Of course > > this path is empty. Also created similar path for Projects. > > > > > > I assume that the semi-colon in your path after C is a typo (C;\use...). > > Check that your project defaults and default project locations have a > > colon > > "C:\use..." in preferences. > > > > Kevin > >

The semicolon was a typo in my email. Only default directories are used. Worse news: When I tried restoring the file again, the wizard aborted during Step 5. It so doing, all my projects were deleted from the default directory. Luckily I had other projects backed up elsewhere and was able to point to them. Just noticed that in the Step 5 window, the entry for "Current File" is blank. Don't know whether this is before but definitely after the first error message.i.e. don't know if it is blank before the process begins or whether it is blank because it can't find a file to work on. Still can't restore any project from a sqz file. Roger On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:19 PM TawayGMail <[email protected]> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Troutman > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:31 PM > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List > Subject: [TMG] Restoration of a SQZ file problem. > > I am attempting to transfer a desktop sqz file from TMG 9.05 to a laptop > running 9.04 > > 1) I manually created the above unfound path i.e.: > C;\users\Roger\Documents\the master genealogist v9\exhibits. Of course > this path is empty. Also created similar path for Projects. > > > I assume that the semi-colon in your path after C is a typo (C;\use...). > Check that your project defaults and default project locations have a > colon > "C:\use..." in preferences. > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

-----Original Message----- From: Roger Troutman Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:31 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List Subject: [TMG] Restoration of a SQZ file problem. I am attempting to transfer a desktop sqz file from TMG 9.05 to a laptop running 9.04 1) I manually created the above unfound path i.e.: C;\users\Roger\Documents\the master genealogist v9\exhibits. Of course this path is empty. Also created similar path for Projects. I assume that the semi-colon in your path after C is a typo (C;\use...). Check that your project defaults and default project locations have a colon "C:\use..." in preferences. Kevin

Lee, re-indexing gives the following "OLE IDispatch exception code 0 from panels: Maximum panels exceed" After the error reindex, optimize and VFI are all greyed out. HTH Ron Stonehouse [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> Sent: July 11, 2019 2:18 PM To: TMG List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: Pr0blem when Optimizing TMG 9.05 At 7/11/2019 15:13, Family Researcher wrote >Just purchased a new system and reinstalled TMG 9.05. The new system >came with Windows Pro 64 bit (the same software used on my old system.) > >When optimizing I get the following error: > >Alias 'Base' not found 24Filterdata2 > >The only choices I get is to 'Abort', "Retry" or "Ignore" and the only >one that works is abort. At that point all I can do is to exit TMG. > >I can still run the program on the old system but would like to retire >the machine but I can't until I get TMG working on the new one. Anyone >with that can help can post on the list or email off list at the >address shown below. Have you run the other Maintenance routines (Validate File Integrity or Reindex)? Try those and see if that helps. Lee _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lee, In the original attemp and all following ones the sqz file was copied from a flash drive to the location of the previous backups. Copied and pointed to another subdirectory but that didn't work. It fails with errors during Step 5 of the restore wizard. It would appear that the DynaZip unzipping procedure is not working but don't know how to work around it, if there even is one. If I delete the program itself and then reload the software a final option? Do I need the original disk of TMG or will the downloaded iupdate work if I have the serial Roger On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 4:15 PM Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > At 7/11/2019 14:30, Roger Troutman wrote > >However, when I attempt to restore either a backup created in v9.04 and > >more importantly, the new project from my desktop sqz file. the restore > >still fails as in step 2 above. > > Where is the Backup SQZ file located? Is it on your hard drive? It > should be. The SQZ software needs to set up various temporary files > during the Restore and they need to be on the hard drive. Just copy > the SQZ file to your hard drive and Restore from there. > > Lee > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

At 7/11/2019 15:13, Family Researcher wrote >Just purchased a new system and reinstalled TMG 9.05. The new system >came with Windows Pro 64 bit (the same software used on my old system.) > >When optimizing I get the following error: > >Alias 'Base' not found 24Filterdata2 > >The only choices I get is to 'Abort', "Retry" or "Ignore" and the >only one that works is abort. At that point all I can do is to exit TMG. > >I can still run the program on the old system but would like to >retire the machine but I can't until I get TMG working on the new >one. Anyone with that can help can post on the list or email off >list at the address shown below. Have you run the other Maintenance routines (Validate File Integrity or Reindex)? Try those and see if that helps. Lee

At 7/11/2019 14:30, Roger Troutman wrote >However, when I attempt to restore either a backup created in v9.04 and >more importantly, the new project from my desktop sqz file. the restore >still fails as in step 2 above. Where is the Backup SQZ file located? Is it on your hard drive? It should be. The SQZ software needs to set up various temporary files during the Restore and they need to be on the hard drive. Just copy the SQZ file to your hard drive and Restore from there. Lee

Just purchased a new system and reinstalled TMG 9.05. The new system came with Windows Pro 64 bit (the same software used on my old system.) When optimizing I get the following error: Alias 'Base' not found 24Filterdata2 The only choices I get is to 'Abort', "Retry" or "Ignore" and the only one that works is abort. At that point all I can do is to exit TMG. I can still run the program on the old system but would like to retire the machine but I can't until I get TMG working on the new one. Anyone with that can help can post on the list or email off list at the address shown below. TIA Ron Stonehouse Family Researcher [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://www.stonehouse.ca/tree

Hello Lee, Thanks for the very prompt response. Per your instructions, I was able to install v9.05 and it works fine with the project that I was using under v9.04. However, when I attempt to restore either a backup created in v9.04 and more importantly, the new project from my desktop sqz file. the restore still fails as in step 2 above. BTW, it didn't ask for the serial Any suggestions? Thanks for your time, Roger On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 1:38 PM Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > At 7/11/2019 12:31, Roger Troutman wrote > >4) Attempted to update 9.04 to 9.05: The 9.05 update is found but when > >nothing happens (stays on 0.0). It eventually times out with the error > >"Server name or address could not be resolved". > > You cannot Restore a Backup from a newer version to an older > version. You must update the TMG v9.04 to v9.05. The update date is > a standalone program in that it replaces the v9.04 program as opposed > to updating it. The latest (US) installer (update) file may be > downloaded from > <<http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg9setup.exe> > http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg9setup.exe>. > After it is downloaded, find it in folder in which you downloaded it > and double-click on it to start the install (update). Have it to > install in the same place as your v9.04 is located using the same > install settings as your v9.04 installation. You may need your TMG > v9x serial number, so be sure to have that handy. If you are unsure > of it, create a Trouble Report by selecting Help=>Technical > Support=>Trouble Report from the TMG Main Menu. This creates a text > file which you can open in NOTEPAD or your word processor and > includes all the information you need show TMG is registered. > > Lee > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

At 7/11/2019 12:31, Roger Troutman wrote >4) Attempted to update 9.04 to 9.05: The 9.05 update is found but when >nothing happens (stays on 0.0). It eventually times out with the error >"Server name or address could not be resolved". You cannot Restore a Backup from a newer version to an older version. You must update the TMG v9.04 to v9.05. The update date is a standalone program in that it replaces the v9.04 program as opposed to updating it. The latest (US) installer (update) file may be downloaded from <<http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg9setup.exe>http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg9setup.exe>. After it is downloaded, find it in folder in which you downloaded it and double-click on it to start the install (update). Have it to install in the same place as your v9.04 is located using the same install settings as your v9.04 installation. You may need your TMG v9x serial number, so be sure to have that handy. If you are unsure of it, create a Trouble Report by selecting Help=>Technical Support=>Trouble Report from the TMG Main Menu. This creates a text file which you can open in NOTEPAD or your word processor and includes all the information you need show TMG is registered. Lee

I am attempting to transfer a desktop sqz file from TMG 9.05 to a laptop running 9.04 Background: a) both computers are running under Windows 7 Home; b) both projects work fine on the respective computers. with the exception that during startup TMG could not find the path for the exhibits (on laptop). c) I have no exhibits so I have always taken the default path . 1) I manually created the above unfound path i.e.: C;\users\Roger\Documents\the master genealogist v9\exhibits. Of course this path is empty. Also created similar path for Projects. 2) I attempted to run a restore the version 9.05 file using all the defaults . The restore appears to work until I get to step 5 when I get a series of errors "DynaZip UnZip Error: creating output file (Problem extracting file(s): followed by a similar error stating "Error creating output file" The sequence follows for many times by pressing on the OK option. The restore eventually fails. 3) I attempted to restore a version 9.04 file. The same errors occurred. 4) Attempted to update 9.04 to 9.05: The 9.05 update is found but when nothing happens (stays on 0.0). It eventually times out with the error "Server name or address could not be resolved". How can I resolve this problem? Any help would be most appreciated Roger Troutman Mansfield Ohio

Michael J. Hannah wrote: > I will update my on-line page of remaining TMG bugs to reflect this. Actually, further testing shows that a lot of possibilies of text, or even no text, following the single quote after a "00" year will be interpreted incorrectly as a regular "between" date. See the newly added description of this bug in my on-line page of outstanding bugs: https://www.mjh-nm.net/BUGS.HTML#B105 Michael

Sam noticed: > ... if the date is xx00's (that is, 1700's, 1800's, 1900's), > (the date is interpreted as a between date). > In that case 1700's becomes "between 1700 and 1700. Fascinating, Sam. I had never seen that reported before. My testing shows that (almost) any single character following the single quote character, including several special characters, will be accepted by TMG as a "between" date SO LONG AS the entry before the quote is a three or four digit number ending in two zeros. Further, if text for a valid month is entered before a "00" year followed by the quote and a single character (e.g. "Mar 1700'x") it is also interpreted as a between date, but as "between Mar 1700 and 1700". A full date before the quote (e.g. "01 Mar 1700'x) is recognized as irregular. None of these "between" values which TMG interprets seem to make sense, so I consider this behaviour a bug in the program. I will update my on-line page of remaining TMG bugs to reflect this. Michael

Hi, Have you tried the (no longer used) US form: 1620's. I just tried it with a date in my TMG program and it worked perfectly (as an irregular date). I know that "apostrophe" has been dropped from current usage, but in this case, it comes in handy. Sam P.S. It apparently does not work if the date is xx00's (that is, 1700's, 1800's, 1900's), but it does seem to work with other dates. In that case 1700's becomes "between 1700 and 1700." On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 5:17 PM Chris Sackett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Does anyone know of a way to record 1620s as an irregular date? TMG converts this to Sep 1620. Is there an escape character that would force the program to accept the date as text, i.e. an irregular date? > > Chris Sackett >

Susan G. Johnston cited Christine Rose in Professional Genealogy: > "However, in all cases of about or say dates, we are obliged > to explain our reasoning and cite the sources of the information > we used in our reasoning process. Depending upon the complexity > of the deduction and the ease with which it flows into the narrative, > we may make the explanation in the text or in a footnote or endnote." > > TMG lets me define my data entry protocol to match these definitions. I agree, Susan. Since most of my output is narrative (e.g. Second Site) I define split memo parts in the sentence templates which can be used to explain an imprecise or calculated date. For example, as posted in my book https://www.mjh-nm.net/SENTENCE.HTML#BirthAssumeSentences my custom tag type "BirthAssume" sentence is: [P] is presumed to have been born<[M1]><[D]><[M2]><[L]><[PAR]>.<[M3]> I might enter "c 1825" as the Date. Then depending upon the sources I have I might enter "probably no later than" in the [M1] memo part and "based on her marriage in 1841\," in the [M2] memo part. Using TMG memo parts allows global sentence templates to produce quite different output for different circumstances, and explain circa dates. Hope this gives people ideas, Michael

EEewwww - that was ugly - sorry about that! Edited version below. Faye -----Original Message----- From: fayewest <[email protected]> Sent: July 5, 2019 3:24 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: Irregular date In case you haven't had enough ideas already: I often use an x instead of the 0 to indicate that I don't know the specific year within the decade. e.g.162x FayeSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Chris Sackett <[email protected]> Date: 2019-07-04 3:16 p.m. (GMT-07:00) To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Irregular date Does anyone know of a way to record 1620s as an irregular date? TMG converts this to Sep 1620. Is there an escape character that would force the program to accept the date as text, i.e. an irregular date?Chris Sackett _______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

In case you haven't had enough ideas already: I often use an x instead of the 0 to indicate that I don't know the specific year within the decade.  e.g.162x FayeSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Chris Sackett <[email protected]> Date: 2019-07-04 3:16 p.m. (GMT-07:00) To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Irregular date Does anyone know of a way to record 1620s as an irregular date? TMG converts this to Sep 1620. Is there an escape character that would force the program to accept the date as text, i.e. an irregular date?Chris Sackett _______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Because the original query has segued into definitions of date modifiers, I thought I would provide this from Christine Rose, "Family Histories," in Elizabeth Shown Mills, ed., _Professional Genealogy_ (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2001), 464-465. Defining 'about' or 'circa': "These terms are appropriate when the estimation is based on a record that states at least two figures from which we may approximate a third." Possible examples would include the age given in a census record, an age stated in an affidavit, an age at death, etc. Defining 'say': "This term is conventionally used by genealogists when an estimate is extrapolated from less explicit evidence." A possible example might include estimating a marriage date from birth dates of known children and common practice in the time and place. "However, in all cases of about or say dates, we are obliged to explain our reasoning and cite the sources of the information we used in our reasoning process. Depending upon the complexity of the deduction and the ease with which it flows into the narrative, we may make the explanation in the text or in a footnote or endnote." TMG - bless its heart - lets me define my data entry protocol to match these definitions. Susan Johnston On 7/5/2019 11:12 AM, Lee Hoffman wrote: > At 7/5/2019 11:38, Chris Sackett wrote >> TMG (and you) might know what you mean by circa 1625, but the reader >> cannot be assumed to know. I think it more likely that the reader >> would take this to mean “probably 1625, but it might be 1624 or >> 1626”. Without further explanation, he wouldn’t have any reason >> to think that what is intended is any year in the decade of the 1620s. > > Again, as has been said here, 'circa' mean about or approximate. This > is as opposed to the prefix 'say'  or 'est'.  Thus 'circa' would mean > the given date plus or minus a period of time. Depending on the given > date, that 'time' mights be a few days (as in 'circa 5 Jun 1919'), a > few months (as in 'circa Jun 1919'), or a few years (as in 'circa > 1919').  The question is how many is "a few".  The same could also be > said using 'several', I suppose. As I said, I was always taught that a > circa year date meant that date plus/minus five years.  That would > then give a range of  ten years and anything more than that would be > too broad a range to be useful in my opinion.  In such a case, I'd > probably go with 'early 1900s' or 'first quarter of the 20th century'.

At 7/5/2019 11:38, Chris Sackett wrote > > On 5 Jul 2019, at 14:59, Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > > ... > > Actually, within TMG and by default, "Circa > 1620" means 1620 plus/minus 20 years. But that > can be changed in Preferences=>Current Project > Options=>Advanced to be nay year range > desired. I have mine set at five years as that > was what I was taught initially. If I want a > less specific date range, I will use a > 'between' date. In this case, I would use > 'Circa 1625' since that would cover the 1620s. > >TMG (and you) might know what you mean by circa >1625, but the reader cannot be assumed to know. >I think it more likely that the reader would >take this to mean “probably 1625, but it might >be 1624 or 1626”. Without further explanation, >he wouldn’t have any reason to think that what >is intended is any year in the decade of the 1620s. Again, as has been said here, 'circa' mean about or approximate. This is as opposed to the prefix 'say' or 'est'. Thus 'circa' would mean the given date plus or minus a period of time. Depending on the given date, that 'time' mights be a few days (as in 'circa 5 Jun 1919'), a few months (as in 'circa Jun 1919'), or a few years (as in 'circa 1919'). The question is how many is "a few". The same could also be said using 'several', I suppose. As I said, I was always taught that a circa year date meant that date plus/minus five years. That would then give a range of ten years and anything more than that would be too broad a range to be useful in my opinion. In such a case, I'd probably go with 'early 1900s' or 'first quarter of the 20th century'. Lee >In my example, I was assigning a probable birth >date range to a young boy who died in 1630 by >saying that he was born probably in the 1620s. >It would be misleading to say he was born >probably circa 1625 without any evidence for that date.