Step 4 I have checked the data base in which these people are included and checked “All People” . In step 5 I have tried checking and not checking suppress details for living people. > On Aug 4, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Terry Reigel <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 8/4/2019 1:57 PM, Michael J. Hannah wrote: >> Louise Rosett wrote: >>> I have been trying to make a gedcom but not getting everyone included... >>> Can anyone suggest what I am doing incorrectly? >> >> Sorry, Louise, I can't make a suggestion without knowing in more detail exact what you ARE doing. > > > Lousie, particularly, what settings are you making at Step 4, and do you have "Suppress details for living people checked on Step 5. > > > Terry Reigel > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

On 8/4/2019 1:57 PM, Michael J. Hannah wrote: > Louise Rosett wrote: >> I have been trying to make a gedcom but not getting everyone included... >> Can anyone suggest what I am doing incorrectly? > > Sorry, Louise, I can't make a suggestion without knowing in more > detail exact what you ARE doing. Lousie, particularly, what settings are you making at Step 4, and do you have "Suppress details for living people checked on Step 5. Terry Reigel

Louise Rosett wrote: > I have been trying to make a gedcom but not getting everyone included... > Can anyone suggest what I am doing incorrectly? Sorry, Louise, I can't make a suggestion without knowing in more detail exact what you ARE doing. Michael

Hello, I have been trying to make a gedcom but not getting everyone included. I am not there, my deceased parents and grandparents and on and on. I keep trying different configurations but I still can’t produce a complete gedcom. Can anyone suggest what I am doing incorrectly? Thanks, Louise Rosett

I use gedstar pro also. Like it. price is right also. Can only be read on my android tablet - but that works for me. gypsy -----Original Message----- From: David A. Coats [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 7:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TMG] Re: Question one the side. Try Gedstar Pro (Google it to get to their website). Works with Android phones through operating system v.8 (Oreo). I've been delighted with it. Unfortunately, you'll need to go to their website, as it's no longer available in the Play Store. Displays not only your entire database (including images) but also posts a daily reminder to your phone, showing births, deaths, and marriages. Best regards. David Coats Coats Translation Service ATA Certified Translators: E>G, G>E Phone: 612-379-7398 Fax: 612-379-0384 email: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] On 8/3/2019 1:42 PM, Steinar Vissebråten wrote: > SInce Heredis came with the Phone app I have used this for a long time. > > But after I made a new Gecome from TMG and tried to use Heredis 2019 I > have lost all link between persons and families. > I have tried various output of Gedcom but this no longer work with > Heredis 2019. And the same on my Androide phone of newest version. > > Is some one having the same problems? Or is it a software I can use my > Genealogy file on my Phone that is worth to buy?? > > Appreciate any help > > Steinar > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Try Gedstar Pro (Google it to get to their website). Works with Android phones through operating system v.8 (Oreo). I've been delighted with it. Unfortunately, you'll need to go to their website, as it's no longer available in the Play Store. Displays not only your entire database (including images) but also posts a daily reminder to your phone, showing births, deaths, and marriages. Best regards. David Coats Coats Translation Service ATA Certified Translators: E>G, G>E Phone: 612-379-7398 Fax: 612-379-0384 email: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] On 8/3/2019 1:42 PM, Steinar Vissebråten wrote: > SInce Heredis came with the Phone app I have used this for a long time. > > But after I made a new Gecome from TMG and tried to use Heredis 2019 I > have lost all link between persons and families. > I have tried various output of Gedcom but this no longer work with > Heredis 2019. And the same on my Androide phone of newest version. > > Is some one having the same problems? Or is it a software I can use my > Genealogy file on my Phone that is worth to buy?? > > Appreciate any help > > Steinar >

Suzie Morley wrote: > I am extracting a report (List Of...) to an excel file... > the output column in my List Of is P1_Given_Last... > I have edited all the Tags (1891 Census) to select > the married name of widowed women... Hi Suzie, You did not state what kind of List Of... report you were using. Hopefully you are using either the List of Events or the List of Witnesses report for your extraction. Based on your indication of choosing a column as P1_Given_Last (actually Prin1_Given_Last) I presume you are using one of these two reports. If so, since you say you selected the married name for these widowed woman on the tags, you simply have to change the output column on the report. Prin1_Given_Last specifically specifies the Primary name for the person. For these reports there is an alternative of "Prin1_Given_Last_(Selected)". Unfortunately there is a remaining bug in TMG where choosing that option incorrectly still outputs the Primary name instead of the Selected name as is shoud. That is described in my list of remaining TMG bugs: https://www.mjh-nm.net/BUGS.HTML#B09 Instead, as that bug report lists, you must choose the other available option of “Prin1 Last, Given (Selected)” which *will* output the selected married name but unfortunately also appends a comma and the Suffix field. Since you are going to post process the output in Excel anyway, you should be able to work with this slightly different output which at least does give the selected name. Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

I enter the common name in TMG, then extract the character-for-character in the memo field and add the memo to the sentence structure, common name > Elizabeth Ellsworth, MEMO > She is listed in the 1921 Newfoundland Census as Pittman, Elizah Alexander Payne -----Original Message----- From: Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> Sent: August 3, 2019 17:31 To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: Wife's Married Names At 8/3/2019 14:54, John Cardinal wrote >Regarding your comment, "In regard to how John (and many of us) >consider our narratives, there is the admonition in genealogy that we >enter exactly what we find. With this in mind, it is somewhat >debateable as to whether we should enter the maiden name in a census record or the name in the census." > >I don't interpret that rule/guideline/advice as pertaining to narrative >reports or many other kinds of output. This is basically what I do. I was just pointing out that we should "record what we see." I did not note (and probably should have) that TMG provides many ways in which data may be recorded. We could enter the data in the app[ropriate fields character for character from our source or we could enter what we interpret the source to say AND -- Note the character-for-character version in the Tag Memo in a non-printing Memo Segment maybe or directing TMG to consider it as Excluded/Hidden/Sensitive. -- Enter the character-for-character version in the Citation Detail (or other Citation field). And there are probably other ways to record the exact data in TMG while using our interpretation in a printable way for narratives and/or other reports/charts. While we should always be precise as to what we record, most people reading our work are not interested in the nit-picking details of accuracy. On the other hand, we really don't know when a "real" <g> genealogist might be reading our reports. So we should consider them while allowing the generl reader to "by-pass" the details if they wish. In any case, I think we are saying the same thing. Lee _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cec5c35d0518e4b0ca91008d7184d9cd0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637004593926251992&amp;sdata=HKJjMdTVMfqu8tpZ9ET%2B5%2F02LCDUyU8goyVhzjVwwho%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Ftmg%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cec5c35d0518e4b0ca91008d7184d9cd0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637004593926261997&amp;sdata=3E02SxmhAk7RxTwjKs1I9UasRGpp2LafQkXYMpLLdX0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cec5c35d0518e4b0ca91008d7184d9cd0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637004593926261997&amp;sdata=lG2aiVVux1xaKxeHThCfm1s5ICCZrvWilwB3HZAkt3c%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cec5c35d0518e4b0ca91008d7184d9cd0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637004593926261997&amp;sdata=NklKomsi4hCUf%2B8WatZkx%2Bdta7enSqO7oYj2gvh41P0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cec5c35d0518e4b0ca91008d7184d9cd0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637004593926261997&amp;sdata=4NTNPYU53RYPMGAEXUYUc4OmlpA9whrASDIZJfhVOFc%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 8/3/2019 14:54, John Cardinal wrote >Regarding your comment, "In regard to how John (and many of us) consider our >narratives, there is the admonition in genealogy that we enter exactly what >we find. With this in mind, it is somewhat debateable as to whether we >should enter the maiden name in a census record or the name in the census." > >I don't interpret that rule/guideline/advice as pertaining to narrative >reports or many other kinds of output. This is basically what I do. I was just pointing out that we should "record what we see." I did not note (and probably should have) that TMG provides many ways in which data may be recorded. We could enter the data in the app[ropriate fields character for character from our source or we could enter what we interpret the source to say AND -- Note the character-for-character version in the Tag Memo in a non-printing Memo Segment maybe or directing TMG to consider it as Excluded/Hidden/Sensitive. -- Enter the character-for-character version in the Citation Detail (or other Citation field). And there are probably other ways to record the exact data in TMG while using our interpretation in a printable way for narratives and/or other reports/charts. While we should always be precise as to what we record, most people reading our work are not interested in the nit-picking details of accuracy. On the other hand, we really don't know when a "real" <g> genealogist might be reading our reports. So we should consider them while allowing the generl reader to "by-pass" the details if they wish. In any case, I think we are saying the same thing. Lee

Lee, Regarding your comment, "In regard to how John (and many of us) consider our narratives, there is the admonition in genealogy that we enter exactly what we find. With this in mind, it is somewhat debateable as to whether we should enter the maiden name in a census record or the name in the census." I don't interpret that rule/guideline/advice as pertaining to narrative reports or many other kinds of output. When transcribing a document, the transcription should be as close to the original text as possible, so "enter exactly what we find". When reporting what a source contains, but not doing a full transcription, such as in a comment in a CD, I think the rule applies and so I would enter it as exactly as possible. When quoting material in a source, I'd follow the rule for any quoted text anywhere and enter it as exactly as possible. In all the above cases, I might add editorial comments within the quoted/copied/transcribed text to help the reader (who might be a later version of me) understand the content. In a pure transcription, I minimize editorial comments. I admit to taking liberties with some transcriptions. For example, with death notices transcribed from newspapers with thin columns, I usually remove hyphens from words that were hyphenated to squeeze text into the columns and reduce whitespace. But... For narratives and other output, I present my assertions based on the evidence. Those assertions are (mostly) not quotes and I do not attempt to enter exactly what the sources say. If a source has abbreviated or misspelled words, I won't report that someone was a "farmr from CN" if my interpretation and assertion is that he was a "farmer from Connecticut". Likewise, a person may be recorded under many different (and often incorrect, misspelled, or abbreviated) names in a census. As a researcher, I may decide that the census entry represents a particular person in my genealogy database based on the specifics of the entry and possibly by other evidence. If I report what the source says (possibly in a CD, I transcribe it as exactly as possible. In my narrative, however, I am essentially reporting my conclusion, and so I use the primary name. John

SInce Heredis came with the Phone app I have used this for a long time. But after I made a new Gecome from TMG and tried to use Heredis 2019 I have lost all link between persons and families. I have tried various output of Gedcom but this no longer work with Heredis 2019. And the same on my Androide phone of newest version. Is some one having the same problems? Or is it a software I can use my Genealogy file on my Phone that is worth to buy?? Appreciate any help Steinar -- Steinar Vissebråten, Liavegen 149, N-3540 Nesbyen,NORWAY Phone: +47 32068733..............Mobil: +47 9069 3540 Internet: http://www.vissebraaten.no/ http://www.rukkedalen.com/

Hi John, thanks for the reply. I should have explained that I am not using it in narratives. I am extracting a report (List Of...) to an excel file and then fiddling with that to wrap SS code round it to make an html table. So the output column in my List Of is P1_Given_Last. I have edited all the Tags (1891 Census) to select the married name of widowed women, but the output still shows their maiden name, rather than their married name. Suzie Morley Suffolk, England ============ Suzie, TMG will not decide on its own to use a non-primary name in an event based on other events. However, you can alter which name is used by editing the event. On the right-hand side of the Tag Entry window you will see a pull-down menu where you choose "Primary name" or another name. The default is "Primary name". There is a similar control for the Add Witness / Edit Witness window.

At 8/3/2019 10:54, John Cardinal wrote >I typically use the primary name for all events. That's what I've seen the >most, and it avoids the confusion that might result when reading a narrative >and the person's name changes mid-stream. I don't treat my narratives as >transcriptions of the source documents, but rather, they are my >interpretation/understanding of what the sources indicate. I would guess that most use the Primary Name for all events. I expect many do this because they don;t realize they can. My reason is like yours, the maiden (Primary) name is what I have worked with the most. In regard to how John (and many of us) consider our narratives, there is the admonition in genealogy that we enter exactly what we find. With this in mind, it is somewhat debateable as to whether we should enter the maiden name in a census record or the name in the census. The ability in TMG to select other than the Primary Name has only been available since TMG v5. At that time, I did not consider the feature in light of how data should be entered and only considered it as a personal preference. Further, this was a feature that no other genealogy program had at the time. In any case, I didn't feel like it was something I wanted to do (change 10s of 1,000s of records). So I have stayed with using just Primary Name. Of course, at that time, even if I was just starting genealogy, I'd probably have just used Primary Name (most likely due to laziness <g>). Lee

At 8/3/2019 10:43, Suzie Morley wrote >If (for the sake of example), Susan had been unmarried in the 1871 Census, >married to Mr. Brown in the 1881 Census, and married to Mr Green in the 1891 >Census, can TMG correctly identify all her different surnames dependent upon >the date of the event? Yes, TMG can if the user wants it that way. In the Census Tag (actually any event Tag), when a person is added to the Tag choose the Primary Name option by clicikng on the down arrow at the right of the field and select the desired name. The list of possible names is controlled by the non-Primary Name Tags (e.g., Name-Marr, Name-Nick, etc.) that have been added. Lee

Suzie, TMG will not decide on its own to use a non-primary name in an event based on other events. However, you can alter which name is used by editing the event. On the right-hand side of the Tag Entry window you will see a pull-down menu where you choose "Primary name" or another name. The default is "Primary name". There is a similar control for the Add Witness / Edit Witness window. I typically use the primary name for all events. That's what I've seen the most, and it avoids the confusion that might result when reading a narrative and the person's name changes mid-stream. I don't treat my narratives as transcriptions of the source documents, but rather, they are my interpretation/understanding of what the sources indicate. John

Hi everyone, I have entered into TMG, all the people in the 1891 (UK) Census for the village of Debenham, together with their household. The Principle is the HoH, and all the others are set as witnesses. I have now extracted a list of all the HoH and put them on my website. There is a bit that I am not happy about - where the Hoh is a widowed woman, I can't work out how to get TMG to put her surname at the time of the census down, rather than her maiden name (or in a lot of cases, a missing maiden surname). Eg http://debenham-ops.org.uk/ui247.htm Susan at Schedule 3, has been married and widowed - I don't yet know her maiden name. If (for the sake of example), Susan had been unmarried in the 1871 Census, married to Mr. Brown in the 1881 Census, and married to Mr Green in the 1891 Census, can TMG correctly identify all her different surnames dependent upon the date of the event? Suzie Morley Suffolk, England

At 8/2/2019 15:52, John and Lee Wood wrote >After using TMG for decades I just discovered >that there is a TMG Immigration Flag available >which shows up on my Second Site pages. I >would like to reset this flag from N to Y for >all my immigrants. Is there a way to globally >change all the Immigration Flags for those >immigrants? I thought maybe I could use my TMG >Utilities but couldn't find a way to do so. I >also tried to create a list of people who were >immigrants so I wouldn't have to search through >my entire project for them, but I couldn't >figure out the correct syntax to create the List. Use the List of Events report. Under [Options...]=>Secondary Output, select the Change Flag option and choose the appropriate settings. Filter the report like: Tag Type... Label = Equals IMMIGRATN END You could also use the List of Persons report. Use a similar filter or filter the Project Explorer and use it as the Subject. Lee

After using TMG for decades I just discovered that there is a TMG Immigration Flag available which shows up on my Second Site pages.  I would like to reset this flag from N to Y for all my immigrants.  Is there a way to globally change all the Immigration Flags for those immigrants?  I thought maybe I could use my TMG Utilities but couldn't find a way to do so. I also tried to create a list of people who were immigrants so I wouldn't have to search through my entire project for them, but I couldn't figure out the correct syntax to create the List. I'm using TMG 9.05 with Windows 10 Can anyone help me out? John Wood

Lee, I recommend keeping as much of the URL as possible out of the citation details. Like you, I want the URL source element to have the simple "https://www.findagrave.com" value. To provide the extra components of the actual HREF value used for a link, I add those details in the source templates. That means my Find-A-Grave source uses overridden templates, but that's not an issue for me. It might be an issue for other users. By keeping the URL details out of the citation, I don't have to change anything when/if FindAGrave changes their URL scheme. John

At 8/2/2019 12:15, Toby Turner wrote >John is absolutely correct; his address of >https://findagrave.com/memorial/ works with the memorial ID# (which >is my case is [CD5] because I cite the people who put the page >online as well as the photographer, if any. So, my earlier more >complicated FAG basic address was the one that didn't work. > >Bless TMG for having easy-to-change templates (which have saved my >life more than once)! My FindAGrave Source is not unlike John's. The Source Templates (based on an extensively changed 'Cemetery Marker (Published)' Source Type) are: Full Footnote: <[COMPILER], >[TITLE] Database and images ([URL]<[CD]>). Short Footnote: <[COMPILER], >[TITLE] ([URL]<[CD]>). Bibliography: [TITLE] Database and images. [URL]. Title == Find-A-Grave Compiler == Various Contributors URL == http://www.findagrave.com/ The Citation Detail is always something like == memorial/1234567890/ The end slash mark is probably not needed and I have forgotten to add it at times. Checking now shows that it is unnecessary (if there Find-A-Grave ignores it). This is for a grouped Source, of course. I considered adding the subject's name in the Citation Detail (CD2), but didn't. I also considered a CD3 entry for added comments, e.g., hard to read, broken stone, etc., but didn't. If I ever re-do the 7000 Find-A-Grave citations that I have, I probably will include these. I may also include the "memorial/" in the URL and jsut put the number in the Citation Detail. A little less typing for adding a citation, but then again, its entry in the Citation Detail reminds me of what the number is. A split Source and its Source Templates for a specific Find A Grave entry would include the subjecct name, the initial contributor (and the current maintainer?), and probably comments in the Memo field. This would all be in the Source Definition Screen and only added comments (if any) would be in the Citation Detail. Source Templates for a split Source might be: Full Footnote: <[COMPILER], >[TITLE] Database and images< for [SUBJECT]> ([URL]memorial/[NUMBER])<, [CD]>. Short Footnote: <[COMPILER], >[TITLE]< for [SUBJECT]> ([URL]memorial/[number])<, [CD]>. Bibliography: [TITLE] Database and images. [URL]. Note that "memorial/" is not included in the URL so that the basic URL could also be used in the Bibliography. Lee