Thanks to all for your help. My basic problem was missing trailing spaces in the field data. This was made worse in the "Comments" field with extra CR at the end of the last sentence I did not catch. All ok now. Thanks again, Joe

I am sorry I didn't make myself clearer - Several years ago (7-8) I ran a report to find a specific citation or source number and the principal attached to that source. I basically would like to do a report of all instances of source numbered 945 and then see the person attached to each of those sources. I don't want to run Events as that does not help me see if I added the wrong source to a person. I thank everyone for their help. Nancy

At 9/22/2019 13:20, Nancy A wrote >I am trying to run a list of my 1930 census >sources with names so I can double check them. > >I went to List of Citations, 'added' 1930 census >and specified the source number. >In the options, I click column and then the >source number, name last, first and detail. >I then ran the report to screen and it tells me >I have 0 . So I tried the 1900 census and got the same thing. > >I know I have at least 100 of each and I am >trying to find the names of the principal attached to that source number. As Terry said, your description of what you want and and what you have done is rather vague. I would assume that you opened the List of Citations Report Definition Screen and selected the Filteredt Group radio button. I think you theen want to click on the down arrow at the right of the filter-name field and select "citations for a specific source" or "source no is tba" if either are there (if not, select a user filter with a filter definition like: Source Number = Equals [?] END (the "[?]" tells TMG to ask you for the specific Source Number after you select to create the report. In this waay, you can run the same report multiple times for different Source Numbers). You indicate you want Screen Preview. That is fine, but If you know that you should get over 100 entries, it might be better to select Printer or Save to a file. In this way, it is review the report as much as you needd. Click on the [Options...] button to open the Options screen. In the General tab, Columnar List Type is fine. Then you click on the Output Columns tab to select the columns that you want. I think you are syaing that you want columns with the Source Number, the Principal's name, and the Citation Detail. You may also want the Source Abbreviation. However, since the report filter is designed for a single Source Number, do you need the Source Number and Source Abbreviation? This would be true for a Screen Preview. But if you run the report for different Sources to print or file, it might distinguish which report it is. Note that there is not a single name selection , but one for Linked Name, Linked Event, Linked Record, Linked Relationship, and Linked Source (of Source). You probably want Linked Record. You probably also want to choose columns for Tag Type and Date as a census Source is often cited for many different event Tag Types. (Again, Date may be redundant as I noted for Source Number/Abbreviation). The columns I selected are: Linked Record; Tag Type Linked Record; Date Linked Record; Subject 1; Last First Linked Record; Subject 1; ID Linked Record; Subject 2; Last First Citation Detail Be sure to select adequate Width for each column. You may also want to choose Landscape for Screen Preview, Printer, or word processor output. I often choose spreadsheet output as this can be adjusted for easier reading of columnar list type reports. Lee

At 01:38 PM 9/22/2019 -0400, Terry Reigel wrote: > >What does this mean? You added 1930 census and the source number where? > >Is this in a filter? If so, why would you put both in, and did you >connect them with OR or AND? > Trying to be generous, I interpreted it to mean "adding a filter named '1930 census'", whose criteria was source number = xx I tried (I only have the 1880 CD census) but by using the default (I think) column options (P1 and P2 name, with a few other fields) I got results in the form (given the date of the 1880, I'm certain all these individuals are well deceased). I really need to clean up my citations -- I suspect some were entered just on things like name verification: -=-=-=-=- List of Selected Citations (73) 1880 Census CD-ROM [.....] Death: 26 Jan 1893; Michael Hess (5025) (73) 1880 Census CD-ROM [1....] Name-Var: Susanna Fenstermacher (5024) Father-Bio: John Fenstermacher (1600), Child: Susanna Fenstermacher (5024) Mother-Bio: Anna Maria Andreas (5014), Child: Susanna Fenstermacher (5024) Name-Var: Michael Hess (5025) Name-Marr: Susanna Hess (5024) (73) 1880 Census CD-ROM [1.1..] Birth: 30 Dec 1815; Susanna Fenstermacher (5024) Death: 20 Aug 1893; Susanna Fenstermacher (5024) Birth: 20 Jul 1817; Michael Hess (5025) (73) 1880 Census CD-ROM [1.11.] Birth: 1842; Henry Ackerman (2276); Michigan (73) 1880 Census CD-ROM [11...] Marriage: 1870; Henry Ackerman (2276) and Rebecca McFarland (2274) Marriage: Michael Hess (5025) and Susanna Fenstermacher (5024) (73) 1880 Census CD-ROM [2.1..] Name-Comm: Minnie Steffes (260) (73) 1880 Census CD-ROM [2.1.1] Occupation: John Bieber (44); Jamestown, Ottawa, Michigan; a carpenter||He built Mitchel and Gitchel Schools in Jamestown Township. He also built Sycamore and Plainview Schools in Dorr Township. -=-=-=-=-

Nancy, If your goal is to find the names of the people who have census tags which cite the 1930 census, then you want the List of Events report, not the List of Citations. To use the LoE you would set up something like: Tag Type... > Label > =Equals >Census AND Any Citation... > SrcNumber > 1:4118 END This example assumes you are using the standard "Census" tag type and your source number for the 1930 census is "4118". If you have multiple tag types for the 1930 census, say a separate tag type for each 1930 county or state, then you could filter for date instead, like: Tag Type... > Label > =Equals >Census AND Date-Year > =Equals > 1930 END Set the output columns to include Principal 1 (and Principal 2 if desired) names and ID numbers. Note that these filters identify the Principals who have 1930 census tags but not the people who are witnesses to those tags. On 9/22/2019 10:20 AM, Nancy A wrote: > I am trying to run a list of my 1930 census sources with names so I > can double check them. > > I went to List of Citations, 'added' 1930 census and specified the > source number. > In the options, I click column and then the source number, name last, > first and detail. > I then ran the report to screen and it tells me I have 0 .  So I tried > the 1900 census and got the same thing. > > I know I  have at least 100 of each and I am trying to find the names > of the principal attached to that source number. > > What am I doing wrong?  (I even went to the TMG Rootsweb archive list > and searched it). > > Nancy A. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community

On 9/22/2019 1:20 PM, Nancy A wrote: > I am trying to run a list of my 1930 census sources with names so I > can double check them. > > I went to List of Citations, 'added' 1930 census and specified the > source number. Nancy, What does this mean? You added 1930 census and the source number where? Is this in a filter? If so, why would you put both in, and did you connect them with OR or AND? Terry Reigel

I am trying to run a list of my 1930 census sources with names so I can double check them. I went to List of Citations, 'added' 1930 census and specified the source number. In the options, I click column and then the source number, name last, first and detail. I then ran the report to screen and it tells me I have 0 .  So I tried the 1900 census and got the same thing. I know I  have at least 100 of each and I am trying to find the names of the principal attached to that source number. What am I doing wrong?  (I even went to the TMG Rootsweb archive list and searched it). Nancy A.

I have also at times done the following: In the master place list find the duplicates, change one entry so there is only one field and put the word DELETE in that field. Go to the persons tag, delete the tag with the place DELETE and re add the tag with the correct place from the Master Place List. Then run your optimize and the “DELETE” place will be removed. Thanks, Kevin L. Sholder sent from mobile device > On Sep 21, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > > At 9/21/2019 13:33, Joseph Cummings via TMG wrote >> In my Master Place List record, I have duplicate place lines (Detail or Addressee). I have checked the data for space character differences and spelling errors. Even copied the field data from one line to another. Run Optimize and still cannot get the duplicate records merged into one. Any ideas on how to accomplish this goal? > > You mention Detail and Addressee, but what about the other fields? There are ten place fields: Addressee, Detail, City, County, State, Country, Postal, Phone, LatLong, and Temple plus six other fields (Data set, Short Place, Comment, Style, Starte Year (SY) and End Year (EY)) in a place record that must match before they can merge. It may be that one of the other fields has a difference between the one record and the other. Often the difference is hard to see -- a double letter, space, or whatever. You are on the right track to copy/paste from on record to the other to try elimination of the problem problem. It may be that even what appears to be an "empty" field is the problem. > > Lee > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 9/21/2019 13:33, Joseph Cummings via TMG wrote >In my Master Place List record, I have duplicate place lines (Detail >or Addressee). I have checked the data for space character >differences and spelling errors. Even copied the field data from one >line to another. Run Optimize and still cannot get the duplicate >records merged into one. Any ideas on how to accomplish this goal? You mention Detail and Addressee, but what about the other fields? There are ten place fields: Addressee, Detail, City, County, State, Country, Postal, Phone, LatLong, and Temple plus six other fields (Data set, Short Place, Comment, Style, Starte Year (SY) and End Year (EY)) in a place record that must match before they can merge. It may be that one of the other fields has a difference between the one record and the other. Often the difference is hard to see -- a double letter, space, or whatever. You are on the right track to copy/paste from on record to the other to try elimination of the problem problem. It may be that even what appears to be an "empty" field is the problem. Lee

Have you verified that the entries are exactly the same? It must be exact for them to merge together. C On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 1:34 PM Joseph Cummings via TMG <[email protected]> wrote: > I am sure this has been discussed earlier but could not find the subject > matter. > > In my Master Place List record, I have duplicate place lines (Detail or > Addressee). I have checked the data for space character differences and > spelling errors. Even copied the field data from one line to another. Run > Optimize and still cannot get the duplicate records merged into one. Any > ideas on how to accomplish this goal? > Joec > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I am sure this has been discussed earlier but could not find the subject matter. In my Master Place List record, I have duplicate place lines (Detail or Addressee). I have checked the data for space character differences and spelling errors. Even copied the field data from one line to another. Run Optimize and still cannot get the duplicate records merged into one. Any ideas on how to accomplish this goal? Joec

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Everyone! -----Original Message----- From: JEH <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:11 AM To: 'The Master Genealogist (TMG) Rootsweb Email List' <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: Two Instances of TMG Open at Same Time? I do this on occasion for a particular purpose. When I am doing extended work on a group of related individuals I find it useful to have them in the dropdown "View" tab. If I then need to briefly do some work on another group the first group start to disappear down the list. I therefore open a second instance of TMG, do my work on the second group, then close that instance. The first group remain on the first instance opened. TMG always retains the "View" list from the last instance to be closed. That begs another question for me:- Where is the current "View" list stored and is it possible to save it for future use? ________________________________________________________ John Heckels -----Original Message----- From: Michael J. Hannah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 16 September 2019 02:00 To: The Master Genealogist (TMG) Rootsweb Email List Subject: [TMG] Re: Two Instances of TMG Open at Same Time? Obviously two instances of TMG operating on different projects would not cause a problem. The crucial point is whether both instances can work on the same project at the same time. You can have two instances of TMG on the same machine operating on the same project. And you can have two instances of TMG on two different machines operating on the same project, but the two machines must be using a networked disk (not the cloud) where that one project on that one networked disk is read/write accessible to both machines on that network. And you will get conflict warning messages at the record level in either case as Richard mentioned. Michael _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 9/19/2019 12:57, Charlie Towne wrote >At 9/19/2019 07:10, JEH wrote: > >>That begs another question for me:- Where is the current "View" list >> stored and is it possible to save it for future use? > >I haven't used it much, but TMG has a "Bookmark" feature that might >provide the capability you're looking for. Search for "Bookmarks" in >TMG's Help pages. Yes, it is a good alternative to View History although there are a couple difference. One is that Bookmarks are not automatic. However, with the Bookmark Toolbar displayed, it is simple to just click the [Bookmark] icon to add an individual to the Bookmark Manager. A second difference is that a Bookmark is only to a Person View of the individual rather than to a Tree or Family View (thought that isn't that big a deal most of the time). A third difference is that View History is limited to 10 different Views -- thus could be as few as four individuals with multiple Views (Person, Family, Tree). My present View History shows nine individual with each having Person View and one having Tree View and Person View. Bookmarks (limited to Person View) can be as many as you want. However, beyond about 30 to 40 individuals, it can be a bit slow (though you can check the ID# in the Bookmark Manager and go to that ID# using the [GoTo] icon or press Ctrl+I and enter that ID# a bit faster. Lee

At 9/19/2019 07:10, JEH wrote: > That begs another question for me:- Where is the current "View" list > stored and is it possible to save it for future use? I haven't used it much, but TMG has a "Bookmark" feature that might provide the capability you're looking for. Search for "Bookmarks" in TMG's Help pages. -- Charlie Towne [email protected]

At 9/19/2019 07:10, JEH wrote >That begs another question for me:- Where is the current "View" list stored >and is it possible to save it for future use? The View History list is maintained from session to session in the (project name)_.PJC file. When the project is opened, TMG reads the PJC file and adjusts its configuration based on what was last stored in the file. This and other information used by TMG _during_ a session are maintained in temporary administrative files. Then when the session ends, the PJC file is updated and the temporary files are deleted. It might be noted that while the PJC file is plain text and arranged in sections (with headers defining what each section contains), not all sections can be directly related to what is seen when viewing the project. The View History section is a good example of this. That is, the ID Numbers in the PJC file will not always match what you see in the View Menu dropdown list. The View Menu will show the ID#s that you are familiar with. But the ID#s in the PJC file are what is often called "internal" numbers in that they are the number that the program uses rather than those we see. Early in the life of a project the two ID#s are the same. Then as persons are added/deleted/merged/renumbered and as data sets are added/merged/deleted the numbers begin to differ. A project begun many years ago like mine which has undergone a great deal of change will have internal ID#s quite different from the ID#s that I use from day to day and have not greatly changed from day one. Lee

I do this on occasion for a particular purpose. When I am doing extended work on a group of related individuals I find it useful to have them in the dropdown "View" tab. If I then need to briefly do some work on another group the first group start to disappear down the list. I therefore open a second instance of TMG, do my work on the second group, then close that instance. The first group remain on the first instance opened. TMG always retains the "View" list from the last instance to be closed. That begs another question for me:- Where is the current "View" list stored and is it possible to save it for future use? ________________________________________________________ John Heckels -----Original Message----- From: Michael J. Hannah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 16 September 2019 02:00 To: The Master Genealogist (TMG) Rootsweb Email List Subject: [TMG] Re: Two Instances of TMG Open at Same Time? Obviously two instances of TMG operating on different projects would not cause a problem. The crucial point is whether both instances can work on the same project at the same time. You can have two instances of TMG on the same machine operating on the same project. And you can have two instances of TMG on two different machines operating on the same project, but the two machines must be using a networked disk (not the cloud) where that one project on that one networked disk is read/write accessible to both machines on that network. And you will get conflict warning messages at the record level in either case as Richard mentioned. Michael

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At 9/15/2019 19:08, Walter Wood wrote >I know FoxPro, which TMG is written in, is a multiuser system. My questions >is, can you have two copies (instances) of TMG open on a single (or even >two) PC at the same time and not mess anything up? If you are talking about multiple users on a single project via a network, you might find this artticle (<http://www.tmgtips.com/tmg5_network.htm>) of interest. Note that the project must be located on a network drive (e.g., it appeares to be the same address to both users) and Cloud drives do not work. The article was written for TMG v5, but still applies to all later versions of TMG. Many of the hardware/software details will be different, but the basic premise remains the same. Lee

Richard Damon wrote: > On 9/15/19 7:08 PM, Walter Wood wrote: >> Just curious. >> >> I know FoxPro, which TMG is written in, is a multiuser system. My questions >> is, can you have two copies (instances) of TMG open on a single (or even >> two) PC at the same time and not mess anything up? >> >> Thanks >> Walter > > Yes, you can open a database with multiple instances of TMG at the same > time, on one machine or multiple over a network. > > You will get a pop-up indicating a record is in use elsewhere if you try > to open up an editor for the same record (Tag, Source, etc) in multiple > copies. Obviously two instances of TMG operating on different projects would not cause a problem. The crucial point is whether both instances can work on the same project at the same time. You can have two instances of TMG on the same machine operating on the same project. And you can have two instances of TMG on two different machines operating on the same project, but the two machines must be using a networked disk (not the cloud) where that one project on that one networked disk is read/write accessible to both machines on that network. And you will get conflict warning messages at the record level in either case as Richard mentioned. Michael

On 9/15/19 7:08 PM, Walter Wood wrote: > Just curious. > > I know FoxPro, which TMG is written in, is a multiuser system. My questions > is, can you have two copies (instances) of TMG open on a single (or even > two) PC at the same time and not mess anything up? > > Thanks > Walter Yes, you can open a database with multiple instances of TMG at the same time, on one machine or multiple over a network. You will get a pop-up indicating a record is in use elsewhere if you try to open up an editor for the same record (Tag, Source, etc) in multiple copies. -- Richard Damon