At 9/14/2016 15:21, you wrote: >Thanks for your response. Pardon my thank you being so slow but I just >completed 15 day of antibiotics for respiratory problems and haven't done >much of anything for the last couple of weeks. That sure is a downer as I have dealt with the same thing in the recent past. I expect you are still feeling the effects of it, but glad you're on the road to recovery. >I'm trying to go about this in a systematic manner. I first compared the >five locations you mentioned to what I find on my computer. First one on >your list caused a question. > >First question. In my computer Program Files (x86) ­ this hasTMG v9, Program >Files does not. Should I move TMMGv9 into Program Files? For all practical purposes, these are the same thing. The Program Files (x86) folder is used for programs that are 32-bit applications while the Program Files folder [not x86] is for 64-bit application. This is a Windows set-up to provide for smooth running of the 32-bit programs in a 64-bit environment. TMG (or at least the latest versions) is a 32-bit program. Lee

Bob, Your TMG is installed in the correct directory. Program Files is for 64-bit programs only, all others go in Program Files (x86). Carl ==================================== Carl Jón Denbow 17 Coventry Lane Athens, Ohio 45701-3718 (x-apple-data-detectors://0/1) (740) 592-2133 (tel:(740)%20592-2133) (home) (740) 591-8471 (tel:(740)%20591-8471) (mobile) http://www.denbow.org http://www.78ohio.org Paternal Lines: DENBOW, EMMONS, GIGAX/GYGAX, HALDEMAN, HANLEY, ROSE, SHARP, SMITH, STEVENS, TENNER/TANNER, TIPTON, THOMPSON, WILLIAMS. Maternal Lines: BJÖRNSON in U.S., HURDAL in Canada (No surnames before 1870 in Old Country, traditional Icelandic naming system used.) ==================================== This (https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id922793622?pt=814382&mt=8&ct=how_i_email) is how I Email now > > On Sep 14, 2016 at 3:21 PM, <Bob Black (mailto:blackbob31@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > Hi Lee, > > Thanks for your response. Pardon my thank you being so slow but I just > completed 15 day of antibiotics for respiratory problems and haven't done > much of anything for the last couple of weeks. > > I'm trying to go about this in a systematic manner. I first compared the > five locations you mentioned to what I find on my computer. First one on > your list caused a question. > > First question. In my computer Program Files (x86) – this hasTMG v9, Program > Files does not. Should I move TMMGv9 into Program Files? > > Thanks in advance, > > Bob Black > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY <azchief@bellsouth.net (mailto:azchief@bellsouth.net)> > wrote: > > > At 8/30/2016 11:39, you wrote: > > > >> Would someone please tell me where TMG would be installed if I did a new > >> clean install? > >> Would TMG have any files normally showing up in Documents? > >> > >> Please understand that I think this is fault of my file organization. I > >> don't think there is anything wrong with TMG. What I have now is TMG v9 > >> appearing in OS(C:)\Program Files\The Master Genealogist v9. > >> > >> TMG 9 also appears in the Program Data folder, same thing for the > >> Documents > >> Folder. > >> > >> I know it's a mess of my own creation but believe it or not it's cleaner > >> than it was. > >> > > > > There are basically five locations in which TMG files may be located based > > on a default installation. Three of these are controlled by the user based > > on information found in the TMG Help topic "Data File Storage" (and related > > topics). > > > > The program files themselves are placed in the TMG folder of the system > > folder "Program Files". > > > > Then there is the folder "Program Data" which may have two sub-folders > > related to TMG. One of these is TMG Installation and contains the > > installation program file and the installation log. > > > > The other sub folder in the Program Data folder is what "Data File > > Storage" calls "Shared Program Data" (SPD). These files are used by the > > program and mostly controlled from within TMG (TMG Help files, dictionary > > files, languages, etc.). > > > > There is also a folder of "User Program Data" (UPD) found in the > > AppData/Roaming folder of your User's folder. This is mainly data files > > related to how you (the user) configure TMG. Each user on a computer has > > this folder and thus each may configure TMG differently without affecting > > other users. > > > > Finally there is the TMG "User Data" (UD) folder located in the Documents > > folder. Mostly, this is your data. It contains about ten sub-folders > > including your project(s), backups, Exhibits, report configurations, > > reports, and more. > > > > As noted, you pretty much have full control of where TMG is installed as > > described in the TMG Help. When the program is installed, the program > > files are installed and certain other files. Then, when TMG is first > > started, TMG sets up other files. If you have followed the instructions in > > TMG Help "Data File Storage" and created a small text file which TMG sees > > on the first start-up after installation then TMG locates the SPD, UPD, and > > UD folders/files according to the small text file. > > > > There is more to this than I have said, but this is the nutshell. > > > > Lee > > > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > > try.com/th/index/TMG/ (http://try.com/th/index/TMG/) > > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TMG-request@rootsweb.com (mailto:TMG-request@rootsweb.com) with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/Instructions) > Instructions (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/Instructions) on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html (http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html-------------------------------To) > ------------------------------- (http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html-------------------------------To) > To (http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html-------------------------------To) unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com (mailto:TMG-request@rootsweb.com) with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lee, Thanks for your response. Pardon my thank you being so slow but I just completed 15 day of antibiotics for respiratory problems and haven't done much of anything for the last couple of weeks. I'm trying to go about this in a systematic manner. I first compared the five locations you mentioned to what I find on my computer. First one on your list caused a question. First question. In my computer Program Files (x86) – this hasTMG v9, Program Files does not. Should I move TMMGv9 into Program Files? Thanks in advance, Bob Black On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY <azchief@bellsouth.net> wrote: > At 8/30/2016 11:39, you wrote: > >> Would someone please tell me where TMG would be installed if I did a new >> clean install? >> Would TMG have any files normally showing up in Documents? >> >> Please understand that I think this is fault of my file organization. I >> don't think there is anything wrong with TMG. What I have now is TMG v9 >> appearing in OS(C:)\Program Files\The Master Genealogist v9. >> >> TMG 9 also appears in the Program Data folder, same thing for the >> Documents >> Folder. >> >> I know it's a mess of my own creation but believe it or not it's cleaner >> than it was. >> > > There are basically five locations in which TMG files may be located based > on a default installation. Three of these are controlled by the user based > on information found in the TMG Help topic "Data File Storage" (and related > topics). > > The program files themselves are placed in the TMG folder of the system > folder "Program Files". > > Then there is the folder "Program Data" which may have two sub-folders > related to TMG. One of these is TMG Installation and contains the > installation program file and the installation log. > > The other sub folder in the Program Data folder is what "Data File > Storage" calls "Shared Program Data" (SPD). These files are used by the > program and mostly controlled from within TMG (TMG Help files, dictionary > files, languages, etc.). > > There is also a folder of "User Program Data" (UPD) found in the > AppData/Roaming folder of your User's folder. This is mainly data files > related to how you (the user) configure TMG. Each user on a computer has > this folder and thus each may configure TMG differently without affecting > other users. > > Finally there is the TMG "User Data" (UD) folder located in the Documents > folder. Mostly, this is your data. It contains about ten sub-folders > including your project(s), backups, Exhibits, report configurations, > reports, and more. > > As noted, you pretty much have full control of where TMG is installed as > described in the TMG Help. When the program is installed, the program > files are installed and certain other files. Then, when TMG is first > started, TMG sets up other files. If you have followed the instructions in > TMG Help "Data File Storage" and created a small text file which TMG sees > on the first start-up after installation then TMG locates the SPD, UPD, and > UD folders/files according to the small text file. > > There is more to this than I have said, but this is the nutshell. > > Lee > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Ann, I have been using CrashPlan with TMG for 3 or 4 years without a problem. I keep my TMG files (except for Backups) in my Documents directory and do not exclude them from CrashPlan. During the time I have used CrashPlan with TMG I have gone from Windows 7 to 8, 8.1 and now 10. I do have TMG save my backup files to OneDrive though. However, my OneDrive folder is also backed up by CrashPlan so I get double backups. Walter -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+walterwood44=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Shepherd Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:23 PM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Managing TMG with CrashPlan I've just purchased CrashPlan and want to use it as my main backup now rather than the hard drive/s I've been using. What do I have to do to exclude TMG from the backups - or from the syncing? At the moment I've just excluded everything with 'The Master Genealogist' in the file path. I'd certainly like to back up my .sqz files (10 automatically numbered/renewed by TMG). Thanks in advance Ann The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George The problem is common and related to the installation of the PDF printer. See fix here: http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?/topic/14260-tmg-v8-tips/#entry57483 I found this by using Google search for the error message preceded by the letters TMG Virginia On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:33 AM, George Dyer <gcdyer@comcast.net> wrote: > I am unable to print from TMG 9.05. > > > > If I want to print an Individual Detail, I go to the Report Definition > Screen; click on One Person and enter that person's number; then I select > Printer in the Report Destination section; then click Create Report and > nothing happens but the following error popup: > > > > OLE error code 0x80040154: Class not registered. > > > > I've tried repairing the program from the Control Panel and reinstalling TMG > from the suggested download site, but neither of these fixes the problem. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > George > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've just purchased CrashPlan and want to use it as my main backup now rather than the hard drive/s I've been using. What do I have to do to exclude TMG from the backups - or from the syncing? At the moment I've just excluded everything with 'The Master Genealogist' in the file path. I'd certainly like to back up my .sqz files (10 automatically numbered/renewed by TMG). Thanks in advance Ann

At 9/12/2016 17:23, Ann Shepherd wrote: >I've just purchased CrashPlan and want to use it as my main backup now >rather than the hard drive/s I've been using. > >What do I have to do to exclude TMG from the backups - or from the syncing? >At the moment I've just excluded everything with 'The Master Genealogist' in >the file path. I'd certainly like to back up my .sqz files (10 automatically >numbered/renewed by TMG). Keep in mind that there are basically three TMG areas that need to be excluded: User Data - usually found in your user name/Documents folder. Shared Program Data - usually found in the Program Data folder on your C:/ drive. User Program Data - usually found in your user name AppData/Roaming folder. These are the default locations, and naturally may be different if you have made a custom installation and/or used the DataPaths.txt file method. In any case, if those are excluded from the backup, then you should be fine. As for your TMG backup SQZ files, I would suggest that you get in the habit of making a copy of each SQZ file immediately after it has finished. Copy it to a folder that is part of your backup plan. I use a batch file named BACKUP.BAT that copies the file I tell it to my TMG Backup folder outside the regular TMG file structure. Then my normal backup protocol takes over. This way I wind up with three copies -- the original, the copy I make with the batch file and the regular backup copy. I keep the batch file in my C:\ root folder, and run it from the Windows Run command. The first few times it is run, it may be helpful to run it from the CMD window. This allows any error message display where you can see them. Lee

I am unable to print from TMG 9.05. If I want to print an Individual Detail, I go to the Report Definition Screen; click on One Person and enter that person's number; then I select Printer in the Report Destination section; then click Create Report and nothing happens but the following error popup: OLE error code 0x80040154: Class not registered. I've tried repairing the program from the Control Panel and reinstalling TMG from the suggested download site, but neither of these fixes the problem. Thanks in advance. George

Lee, I trust this is on topic because it affected my TMG performance, and I would like to share. I have experienced ongoing performance issues since I started using TMG in 2004. TMG did not directly cause my problems, but I would experience memory issues from processes not being released from memory that would slow TMG to a crawl. The only fix was rebooting - typically daily, but at least every 2 days. I was amazed that people like Terry Riegel didn't need to reboot for performance improvement. Over the years, I've had multiple conversations about this on this list. I upgraded to Windows 10 at the end of July. Since then, I have only restarted TMG when I've physically moved my notebook. The programs that were staying in memory under prior versions of Windows are behaving properly now, and I no longer have TMG performance degradation. If anyone's contemplating upgrading and concerned about TMG with Windows 10, my experience has been stellar. It's a much better behaved Windows, and it works perfectly with TMG. Cheryl Freeman -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 30461 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

Hi Carole Have you tried running Reindex, Optimise and Validate File Integrity Regards Paul Taylor On 06/09/2016 1:08 PM, Carole Foster wrote: > Last week I exited TMG by using the "Exit to Windows" button instead of my usual way of exiting and backing up my work [I got distracted]. Later when I went back to use TMG, I got a Repair Mode message which I cannot get rid of and I cannot access the TMG by any means I know. Somehow I think TMG is not shut down and I cannot shut it down as I cannot get to it. I have shut down the computer many times over the week, but always get the same Repair mode message when I try to back to TMG. Of course, if the program cannot repair the files, what now? > Carole Foster > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just did this and it helped...thanks for the prompt response. -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+ccfoster=binnacle.org@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 9:46 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] "Exit to Windows" and "Repair Mode" Hi Carole Have you tried running Reindex, Optimise and Validate File Integrity Regards Paul Taylor On 06/09/2016 1:08 PM, Carole Foster wrote: > Last week I exited TMG by using the "Exit to Windows" button instead of my usual way of exiting and backing up my work [I got distracted]. Later when I went back to use TMG, I got a Repair Mode message which I cannot get rid of and I cannot access the TMG by any means I know. Somehow I think TMG is not shut down and I cannot shut it down as I cannot get to it. I have shut down the computer many times over the week, but always get the same Repair mode message when I try to back to TMG. Of course, if the program cannot repair the files, what now? > Carole Foster > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Last week I exited TMG by using the "Exit to Windows" button instead of my usual way of exiting and backing up my work [I got distracted]. Later when I went back to use TMG, I got a Repair Mode message which I cannot get rid of and I cannot access the TMG by any means I know. Somehow I think TMG is not shut down and I cannot shut it down as I cannot get to it. I have shut down the computer many times over the week, but always get the same Repair mode message when I try to back to TMG. Of course, if the program cannot repair the files, what now? Carole Foster

I don't see a way to do that within TMG. You could build a list of names of the people with name tags that are set to your custom style, then manually set the flags for the people on the list. You can use TMG-Utility to build the list of names with its Names/Change Name Style feature. Set the Old name style to your custom style, and set the New name style to any other style in use in your project. Set the next box to change All name tag types, and check the box to Include names in Log. Be sure to check the Log Only box so no actual changes will be made. Run the procedure and the Log will list all the names of people using your custom name style. On 9/5/2016 6:40 PM, Tami Dolan wrote: > I have set up a custom name style that I use for my cemetery "people". > Can I run a report to set my "cemetery" flag for the people using that name > style? >

I have set up a custom name style that I use for my cemetery "people". Can I run a report to set my "cemetery" flag for the people using that name style?

How do i get rid of the reminders that show up every time I open a new tag. I have them turned off in Preferences. Thanks..... Carol

If the name is in the Nick Name field, it word wraps, because I have a woman Given Name Narcissus Jane "Sissy Jane" Wray, who word wraps. It's longer than the name I am trying to use the Reverend for. -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+cheasa=bellsouth.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lee Hoffman/KY Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 9:28 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List Subject: Re: [TMG] Pedigree Chart names At 9/5/2016 09:20, you wrote: >Actually there is more than enough room for his full name. If I put >Reverend in the Title N1 field, his Given name is shortened. If I put >it in the NickName field then the full name prints. Why would there be >room for the full name with one template, but not another? It is the total space including how much is in each field. Try entering the the name as Title = Rev. Nick = Jack Given = John J. Surnm= Doe This will print the full text -- Rev. John J. Jack Doe. Then start increasing the size of the Title one letter at a time. At some point, the nickname will not print, then the given name will be initialized. You can get pretty much the same result by increasing the size of the other fields except for the Surname field. The interesting thing is the Surname field. Increasing the length of the surname will eventually drop the printing of both the GivenName and the NickName, but will retain the full Title (Reverend) and the field in the report will text wrap. Try it with the name as sung in the "Sound of Music" == "Doereymelasofameradoe". <VBG> In other words, TMG has a set algorithm for printing the name when space is limited such as in charts as opposed to narrative reports. I am not sure what it is, but it will probably always print the full Surname and apparently the Title. The other name fields will either be reduced to initials or dropped altogether. Another interesting thing is that of this person is the Focus Person of the Pedigree Chart, the name will print as "Reverend Doereymelasofameradoe" down in the box. But the Chart Title (upper left) will print the _full_ name == "Reverend John J. Jack Doereymelasofameradoe" I don't know if total length will eventually reduce that or if text wrapping will take over. Nor do I know when/why text wrapping begins. Lee The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 9/5/2016 09:20, you wrote: >Actually there is more than enough room for his full name. If I put >Reverend in the Title N1 field, his Given name is shortened. If I >put it in the NickName field then the full name prints. Why would >there be room for the full name with one template, but not another? It is the total space including how much is in each field. Try entering the the name as Title = Rev. Nick = Jack Given = John J. Surnm= Doe This will print the full text -- Rev. John J. Jack Doe. Then start increasing the size of the Title one letter at a time. At some point, the nickname will not print, then the given name will be initialized. You can get pretty much the same result by increasing the size of the other fields except for the Surname field. The interesting thing is the Surname field. Increasing the length of the surname will eventually drop the printing of both the GivenName and the NickName, but will retain the full Title (Reverend) and the field in the report will text wrap. Try it with the name as sung in the "Sound of Music" == "Doereymelasofameradoe". <VBG> In other words, TMG has a set algorithm for printing the name when space is limited such as in charts as opposed to narrative reports. I am not sure what it is, but it will probably always print the full Surname and apparently the Title. The other name fields will either be reduced to initials or dropped altogether. Another interesting thing is that of this person is the Focus Person of the Pedigree Chart, the name will print as "Reverend Doereymelasofameradoe" down in the box. But the Chart Title (upper left) will print the _full_ name == "Reverend John J. Jack Doereymelasofameradoe" I don't know if total length will eventually reduce that or if text wrapping will take over. Nor do I know when/why text wrapping begins. Lee

Donald, Yes, that is exactly what I am seeing. No other report seems to have this issue. Thanks for verifying that it is TMG and not something in my template! Teresa Elliott > On Sep 5, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Donald Range <deranger2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Teresa, > > I tried to replicate your issue and found that if I added NameNick as an alias for Label 2 (Prefix) with an output template of [Title] [NameNick] [GivenName] [Surname] [Suffix] I get the same result as you in the form of Reverend J Doe if "Reverend" is in the Title field of the primary name tag. But if "Reverend" is in the NameNick field the full given name in the form of Reverend John J. Doe is output in the report. > > I also tried adding NameNick as an alias for Label 7 (OtherName) and got the same result. > > As Lee suggested, shortening "Reverend" to "Rev." allows the full given name to be output in the report even when entered into the Title field. > > So it would seem that there is something special about the Title field that causes it to interfere with the given name field when both are combined in the limited-length name entries of the Pedigree Chart. The Prefix and OtherName fields, and perhaps others, do not cause this interference if the NameNick field is created from them. The Journal Report does not have this issue. >>

Actually there is more than enough room for his full name. If I put Reverend in the Title N1 field, his Given name is shortened. If I put it in the NickName field then the full name prints. Why would there be room for the full name with one template, but not another? >> >> Any one know why when I use a Title, it shortens the GivenName to just an >> >> intial? >> > >> > I am assuming that you are using the PreSurname field as the NameNick field. If so, I suspect the problem is lack of space in the report. Try abbreviating the Title to "Rev." and see if that doesn't print the name rather than just the initial. > > Hmm!? I think I am missing something. If you enter the title (Reverend) in the NameNick field, then the Name Style Output Template tells TMG to print as John J. Reverend Doe. To get the output that you want with Reverend in the NameNick field, the Name Style Output Template needs to be like: > [NameNick] [GivenName] [Surname] [Suffix] > or > [Title] [NameNick] [GivenName] [Surname] [Suffix] > (with the Title field blank) > > But the printing of (full) GivenName versus initial(s) is controlled by the space available,. > > Lee > > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 9/4/2016 23:23, Teresa Elliott wrote: >Lee, I will try, but why does it print fine if I move that to NickName field? >I corrected the name and there was plenty of room on the line for >it. So TMG is shortening the name if the Title field is used. ===clipped=== > > On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY <azchief@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > At 9/4/2016 15:25, you wrote: > >> I use a custom Nick Name tag for all my people: > >> The output template is: [Title] [GivenName] [NameNick] [Surname] [Suffix] > >> > >> > >> If I set the name to Title, GivenName, Surname, I get Title, first initial > >> and surname. > >> If I put the Title in the Nick Name field, I get GivenName, NameNick, > >> Surname. > >> What I would like to print is: Reverand John J. Doe > >> Instead I can get John J. Reverand Doe. > >> Any one know why when I use a Title, it shortens the GivenName to just an > >> intial? > > > > I am assuming that you are using the PreSurname field as the > NameNick field. If so, I suspect the problem is lack of space in > the report. Try abbreviating the Title to "Rev." and see if that > doesn't print the name rather than just the initial. Hmm!? I think I am missing something. If you enter the title (Reverend) in the NameNick field, then the Name Style Output Template tells TMG to print as John J. Reverend Doe. To get the output that you want with Reverend in the NameNick field, the Name Style Output Template needs to be like: [NameNick] [GivenName] [Surname] [Suffix] or [Title] [NameNick] [GivenName] [Surname] [Suffix] (with the Title field blank) But the printing of (full) GivenName versus initial(s) is controlled by the space available,. Lee