I have lived with this problem for years. At one point, the folks at TMG repaired the file when the source number itself became a very large number. Even after this fix I cannot run reports against the source file because an error is detected. I am able to cope because most other functions seem to be unaffected. The main inconvenience is that I cannot optimize the database. When I do, some files disappear entirely and I cannot open the project. Today I finally noticed a visible symptom of the problem. When I open the source list to select a source for a citation, I see at least four sources with the source number 0. One of them shows over 100000 citations. The others have smaller, more realistic numbers of citations. If I select one of these sources to attach to an event, it comes back as source 0, with no description. It cannot be saved. If I run maintenance on the Master Source List, these corrupted records do not appear, so I cannot maintain them. TMG Utilities do not appear to have a way to access these sources to maintain them. I hesitate to renumber sources because I have over 7,000 of them and can't be sure the process will even "see" the problem records to renumber them. Any ideas? Rick Moffat

I have turned to the Book Manager to attempt the book. I have entered the title and 18 Journal Report Chapters which are separate individuals and saved the settings. I have done this for Word and RTF and a problem persists. Have gone to the configuration screen for each focus person. Cautiously gone through all options for each and saved the settings for each. After clicking the Create Book button, the program runs thru the first two chapters. It goes to the third chapter and runs 3331 people. The actual count for Chapter 2 is 1041. It then goes to Chapter 4 and again runs the 3331. It is stuck on something to continue to do this and starts to do so again on the next chapter. I can only get it to stop by going to the Task Manager. Thinking corruption (also experienced some other minor situations), I uninstalled v9.05. Ran the disc for v9.0 and ran the v9.05 download. Thus, current. I have cleared the book and started over. Have also gone to the Configuration File and deleted all files pertaining to each individual. Noted there are Repeat Files. Would not “experiment” with these as I know nothing about them nor are they listed in the TMG books I have. Appreciate any solution given me. Thanks. Don

I've done a few experiments on this printing problem for the Individual Narrative report. It's clearly a bug in TMG. This problem occurs only in the first sentence of the report. By trial-and-error I figured out how to reliably avoid the problem: -- Number of name sources must be less than or equal to 3 -- Number of other sources for the tag that generates that sentence (like the birth tag for my report) must be -- less than or equal to 7 - number of name sources (1 or more name sources) -- less than or equal to 8 (no name sources) Really simple (but restrictive) rule for this first sentence: The number of name sources must be less than or equal to 3 and the number of other sources must be less than or equal to 4. These rules work regardless of the settings for "Include Name Sources" and "Include Relationship Sources". Another thing I discovered. TMG automatically puts the subject's primary name at the beginning of the Individual Narrative. There can be some peculiar results if the first tag doesn't start with [P]! (It's possible to create a bogus tag, like "[P] is the subject of this report", then start a new line with a real tag like "[:CR:][SF] was born <[D]><[STATE]>" to circumvent the restrictions on the number sources for that second tag and not be tied to using "[P]".) I didn't explore this bug too much more since I just wanted some rules I could live with. I eliminated the problem from my report by removing only one name source! Brian -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+brian.gross=pacbell.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Gross Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 10:37 AM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] Individual Narrative Peculiarity I'm using 9.05 > On Nov 2, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Terry Reigel <terry@reigelridge.com> wrote: > >> On 11/2/2016 12:05 PM, Brian Gross wrote: >> Thank you Richard and Terry. >> > You're welcome, Brian. >> I wonder whether this is a bug. It seems associated with the number >> of references on a single line. It's secondarily associated with >> where those reference are (middle or end of text) since when I >> eliminated *two* in the middle of text only *one* at the end of the text moved up. > Which version of TMG are you using? I don't see where you mentioned that. >> (FWIW, I think I have more references than necessary for the name, so >> I could avoid this by reducing the references... > > You can exclude them rather than removing them so they don't appear in reports but are still available to you when you open the Tag. >> ... yet I'd expect TMG to handle >> number it's handed.) > Yes, it should, and so far as I know does. There's some issue here we haven't found yet. > > Terry > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Michael. I think LIKE is exactly what Bob said.  Hopefully I'll remember it this time (or at least remember I'd asked about it and look back into the archives for your reply). Bob From: Michael J Hannah <mjh@rr-nm.net> To: TMG-L submission address <TMG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [TMG] Searching for a word in a tag memo Bob Livingston asked: > I noticed I frequently mistype "two" as "tow" > so tried to search for all my past memo typos > with the List of Events report, using the filter > "memo contains tow." ... > I think Bob Velke once showed me a straight-forward way > to do this on one of the TMG cruises. > Does anyone know it or am I mistaken? Hi Bob, As you noted, you will get too many hits. Bob Velke probably showed you the way to turn on the "wildcard" feature in the filter, also known as pattern matching.  The key is to use the LIKE operator not the CONTAINS operator.  That lets you use the wildcard characters where '?' will match any one character, and '*' will match any one or more characters. So assuming you want to find "tow" as a separate word, which may begin, end, or be in the middle of a memo, you need the following compound filter (NOTE!!! I put quotes around what you are matching below so you can see when there are spaces, which do not need to be escaped, but do not include the quotes): Memo // Is Like // "* tow *" // OR Memo // Is Like // "tow *" // OR Memo // Is Like // "* tow" // END The first condition finds where "tow" is somewhere in a memo but surrounded by spaces.  But it will not find where it begins or ends the memo.  Unfortunately I know of no special characters to use in the TMG LIKE operator to indicate beginning or end, so finding those two special cases is more difficult. Therefore the second and third conditions are not as obvious.  The second will find "tow" followed by a space anywhere in the memo with anything or nothing in front of it and at least one character after the trailing space.  So while it will find it at the beginning of the memo, it will also match cases such as "Kowtow something". The third will find "tow" anywhere in the memo with a space in front of it and at least one character in front of that space with anything or nothing following it.  So it will find " tow" at the end of the memo, as well as " tow," and "tow.", but will also match " township". If you would prefer to explicitly find only the cases where " tow" is immediately followed by punctuation (e.g. " tow,") that could also be done by looking separately for each punctuation case, e.g. Memo // Is Like // "* tow," // OR Memo // Is Like // "* tow." // OR Hope this gives you ideas, Michael The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I should be embarrassed; I am certainly grateful. Thank you for solving my problem. For the casual readers, the answer is that there is an incompatibility and the solution is to produce those reports in RTF format and then convert to DOC if it matters. -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+gsbrown=q.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of tmg-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 4:37 PM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: TMG Digest, Vol 11, Issue 252 Send TMG mailing list submissions to tmg@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/tmg or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to tmg-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at tmg-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of TMG digest..." The TMG archive is at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ How to subscribe to TMG is at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html Today's Topics: 1. Re: Individual Narrative Peculiarity (Brian Gross) 2. Re: Searching for a word in a tag memo (Donald Range) 3. Word 2016 incompatible w/TMG? (Garry Brown) 4. Re: Word 2016 incompatible w/TMG? (Terry Reigel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 10:37:05 -0700 From: Brian Gross <brian.gross@pacbell.net> To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] Individual Narrative Peculiarity Message-ID: <91D555CD-FC6E-493F-8513-28F92D40061B@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm using 9.05 > On Nov 2, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Terry Reigel <terry@reigelridge.com> wrote: > >> On 11/2/2016 12:05 PM, Brian Gross wrote: >> Thank you Richard and Terry. >> > You're welcome, Brian. >> I wonder whether this is a bug. It seems associated with the number >> of references on a single line. It's secondarily associated with >> where those reference are (middle or end of text) since when I >> eliminated *two* in the middle of text only *one* at the end of the text moved up. > Which version of TMG are you using? I don't see where you mentioned that. >> (FWIW, I think I have more references than necessary for the name, so >> I could avoid this by reducing the references... > > You can exclude them rather than removing them so they don't appear in reports but are still available to you when you open the Tag. >> ... yet I'd expect TMG to handle >> number it's handed.) > Yes, it should, and so far as I know does. There's some issue here we haven't found yet. > > Terry > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 10:40:31 -0700 From: Donald Range <deranger2@gmail.com> To: Robert Livingston <bobbl42@sbcglobal.net>, The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Searching for a word in a tag memo Message-ID: <f4226ec1-66b6-92bc-8e44-1245bcde2749@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed I believe you should be able to find cases of "tow " (tow followed by space) with the List of Events report report similar to what you tried, but with the addition of using an escape character (the backslash) to precede the space. This would look like: "tow\ " But when I tried this I found that it only works when the character following the escaped space is also included in the search string. The example given in TMG Help for "Escape Character" does in fact specify the characters both before and after the space. Using a wildcard for the character following the space doesn't seem to work either, but maybe someone else can suggest how to get this to work within TMG. TMG Utility's Find and Replace feature should be able to find your problem cases. Specify "tow " (tow followed by space) as the find string, and check the "Find whole word only" box. The log will show the cases that are found. If the log is too voluminous to easily locate the problems, copy and paste it into Windows Notepad where you can search for the "tow" string. On 11/1/2016 11:55 AM, Robert Livingston wrote: > I noticed I frequently mistype "two" as "tow" so tried to search for all my past memo typos with the List of Events report, using the filter "memo contains tow." The result was thousands of hits for all the memos with the words town, township, surnames like Estow, Stow,Towle, etc. > My next tries were sTOWs (where s was a space) and then " TOW ". Both ignored my attempt to force spaces into the filter. > I finally got what I wanted with a two line filter: > "memo contains tow" AND > "memo does not contain town|towe|stow|towl|tows}twoc ...This took a lot of report runs to find all the "does-nots." > I think Bob Velke once showed me a straight-forward way to do this on one of the TMG cruises. Does anyone know it or am I mistaken? > Bob > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 16:30:04 -0600 From: "Garry Brown" <gsbrown@q.com> To: <TMG@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TMG] Word 2016 incompatible w/TMG? Message-ID: <003301d23558$a86437a0$f92ca6e0$@q.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a new problem with Office 365. I have been running TMG 9.05 in Windows 10 (64 bit machine) with almost no problems for most of 2016. I recently upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 365. Thus I went from Word 2010 to Word 2016. I can no longer produce Detail, Pedigree, Relationship or Family Group Sheet reports in Word format. I get a report with the format wrong and many squares in place of some other characters or spaces and an error statement that says a table has been corrupted. I can create Detail and FGS reports in RTF format and then convert them to .DOC or PDF formats that are correct. I can still create Ahnentafel , descendant indented, and Individual narrative reports in Word format. Any suggestions as to whether this is a simple setting change or a permanent incompatibility with Word 2016? Garry Brown gsbrown@q.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:37:08 -0400 From: Terry Reigel <terry@reigelridge.com> To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Word 2016 incompatible w/TMG? Message-ID: <10b6b7c1-5d24-e519-de50-b38839f89db3@reigelridge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed On 11/2/2016 6:30 PM, Garry Brown wrote: > I have a new problem with Office 365. I have been running TMG 9.05 in > Windows 10 (64 bit machine) with almost no problems for most of 2016. > I recently upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 365. Thus I went from > Word > 2010 to Word 2016. I can no longer produce Detail, Pedigree, > Relationship or Family Group Sheet reports in Word format. I get a > report with the format wrong and many squares in place of some other > characters or spaces and an error statement that says a table has been > corrupted. I can create Detail and FGS reports in RTF format and then > convert them to .DOC or PDF formats that are correct. I can still > create Ahnentafel , descendant indented, and Individual narrative > reports in Word format. Any suggestions as to whether this is a > simple setting change or a permanent incompatibility with Word 2016? Garry, Open a report definition screen for one of the report types that doesn't work and click help. Read the note in the box at the top of the page. Terry Reigel ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the TMG list administrator, send an email to TMG-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TMG mailing list, send an email to TMG@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of TMG Digest, Vol 11, Issue 252 ************************************

On 11/2/2016 6:30 PM, Garry Brown wrote: > I have a new problem with Office 365. I have been running TMG 9.05 in > Windows 10 (64 bit machine) with almost no problems for most of 2016. I > recently upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 365. Thus I went from Word > 2010 to Word 2016. I can no longer produce Detail, Pedigree, Relationship > or Family Group Sheet reports in Word format. I get a report with the > format wrong and many squares in place of some other characters or spaces > and an error statement that says a table has been corrupted. I can create > Detail and FGS reports in RTF format and then convert them to .DOC or PDF > formats that are correct. I can still create Ahnentafel , descendant > indented, and Individual narrative reports in Word format. Any suggestions > as to whether this is a simple setting change or a permanent incompatibility > with Word 2016? Garry, Open a report definition screen for one of the report types that doesn't work and click help. Read the note in the box at the top of the page. Terry Reigel

Bob Livingston asked: > I noticed I frequently mistype "two" as "tow" > so tried to search for all my past memo typos > with the List of Events report, using the filter > "memo contains tow." ... > I think Bob Velke once showed me a straight-forward way > to do this on one of the TMG cruises. > Does anyone know it or am I mistaken? Hi Bob, As you noted, you will get too many hits. Bob Velke probably showed you the way to turn on the "wildcard" feature in the filter, also known as pattern matching. The key is to use the LIKE operator not the CONTAINS operator. That lets you use the wildcard characters where '?' will match any one character, and '*' will match any one or more characters. So assuming you want to find "tow" as a separate word, which may begin, end, or be in the middle of a memo, you need the following compound filter (NOTE!!! I put quotes around what you are matching below so you can see when there are spaces, which do not need to be escaped, but do not include the quotes): Memo // Is Like // "* tow *" // OR Memo // Is Like // "tow *" // OR Memo // Is Like // "* tow" // END The first condition finds where "tow" is somewhere in a memo but surrounded by spaces. But it will not find where it begins or ends the memo. Unfortunately I know of no special characters to use in the TMG LIKE operator to indicate beginning or end, so finding those two special cases is more difficult. Therefore the second and third conditions are not as obvious. The second will find "tow" followed by a space anywhere in the memo with anything or nothing in front of it and at least one character after the trailing space. So while it will find it at the beginning of the memo, it will also match cases such as "Kowtow something". The third will find "tow" anywhere in the memo with a space in front of it and at least one character in front of that space with anything or nothing following it. So it will find " tow" at the end of the memo, as well as " tow," and "tow.", but will also match " township". If you would prefer to explicitly find only the cases where " tow" is immediately followed by punctuation (e.g. " tow,") that could also be done by looking separately for each punctuation case, e.g. Memo // Is Like // "* tow," // OR Memo // Is Like // "* tow." // OR Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

I have a new problem with Office 365. I have been running TMG 9.05 in Windows 10 (64 bit machine) with almost no problems for most of 2016. I recently upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 365. Thus I went from Word 2010 to Word 2016. I can no longer produce Detail, Pedigree, Relationship or Family Group Sheet reports in Word format. I get a report with the format wrong and many squares in place of some other characters or spaces and an error statement that says a table has been corrupted. I can create Detail and FGS reports in RTF format and then convert them to .DOC or PDF formats that are correct. I can still create Ahnentafel , descendant indented, and Individual narrative reports in Word format. Any suggestions as to whether this is a simple setting change or a permanent incompatibility with Word 2016? Garry Brown gsbrown@q.com

On 11/2/2016 12:05 PM, Brian Gross wrote: > Thank you Richard and Terry. > You're welcome, Brian. > I wonder whether this is a bug. It seems associated with the number of > references on a single line. It's secondarily associated with where those > reference are (middle or end of text) since when I eliminated *two* in the > middle of text only *one* at the end of the text moved up. Which version of TMG are you using? I don't see where you mentioned that. > (FWIW, I think I have more references than necessary for the name, so I > could avoid this by reducing the references... You can exclude them rather than removing them so they don't appear in reports but are still available to you when you open the Tag. > ... yet I'd expect TMG to handle > number it's handed.) Yes, it should, and so far as I know does. There's some issue here we haven't found yet. Terry

I believe you should be able to find cases of "tow " (tow followed by space) with the List of Events report report similar to what you tried, but with the addition of using an escape character (the backslash) to precede the space. This would look like: "tow\ " But when I tried this I found that it only works when the character following the escaped space is also included in the search string. The example given in TMG Help for "Escape Character" does in fact specify the characters both before and after the space. Using a wildcard for the character following the space doesn't seem to work either, but maybe someone else can suggest how to get this to work within TMG. TMG Utility's Find and Replace feature should be able to find your problem cases. Specify "tow " (tow followed by space) as the find string, and check the "Find whole word only" box. The log will show the cases that are found. If the log is too voluminous to easily locate the problems, copy and paste it into Windows Notepad where you can search for the "tow" string. On 11/1/2016 11:55 AM, Robert Livingston wrote: > I noticed I frequently mistype "two" as "tow" so tried to search for all my past memo typos with the List of Events report, using the filter "memo contains tow." The result was thousands of hits for all the memos with the words town, township, surnames like Estow, Stow,Towle, etc. > My next tries were sTOWs (where s was a space) and then " TOW ". Both ignored my attempt to force spaces into the filter. > I finally got what I wanted with a two line filter: > "memo contains tow" AND > "memo does not contain town|towe|stow|towl|tows}twoc ...This took a lot of report runs to find all the "does-nots." > I think Bob Velke once showed me a straight-forward way to do this on one of the TMG cruises. Does anyone know it or am I mistaken? > Bob > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm using 9.05 > On Nov 2, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Terry Reigel <terry@reigelridge.com> wrote: > >> On 11/2/2016 12:05 PM, Brian Gross wrote: >> Thank you Richard and Terry. >> > You're welcome, Brian. >> I wonder whether this is a bug. It seems associated with the number of >> references on a single line. It's secondarily associated with where those >> reference are (middle or end of text) since when I eliminated *two* in the >> middle of text only *one* at the end of the text moved up. > Which version of TMG are you using? I don't see where you mentioned that. >> (FWIW, I think I have more references than necessary for the name, so I >> could avoid this by reducing the references... > > You can exclude them rather than removing them so they don't appear in reports but are still available to you when you open the Tag. >> ... yet I'd expect TMG to handle >> number it's handed.) > Yes, it should, and so far as I know does. There's some issue here we haven't found yet. > > Terry > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Richard and Terry. Richard, I tried your suggestion but there was nothing in front of Pennsylvania. (I've had that sort of problem happen before, especially in source titles.) Good eye, Terry! I had neglected to add the relationship to the other parent. Thank you for the discussion of the name vs. parent/child relationship. I added the missing parent relationship and my output now looks like this: Catherine Byerly<1,2,3,4,5,6> was born on 28 Feb 1831 in Pennsylvania.<7,8> <,9,10,11> I eliminated "Pennsylvania" in the tag and got this: Catherine Byerly<1,2,3,4,5,6> was born on 28 Feb 1831.<7,8> <,9,10,11> I eliminated two of the references to her name and got this: Catherine Byerly<1,2,3,4> was born on 28 Feb 1831.<5,6,7> <,8,9> You can see that TMG starts a new line in the middle of the subscript references. (This appears in both the preview and the printed report.) I haven't stumbled across any print formatting that would seem to address this. I wonder whether this is a bug. It seems associated with the number of references on a single line. It's secondarily associated with where those reference are (middle or end of text) since when I eliminated *two* in the middle of text only *one* at the end of the text moved up. (FWIW, I think I have more references than necessary for the name, so I could avoid this by reducing the references, yet I'd expect TMG to handle number it's handed.) Thoughts? Brian -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+brian.gross=pacbell.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Reigel Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 5:41 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Individual Narrative Peculiarity On 11/2/2016 1:03 AM, Brian Gross wrote: > There are only *four* citations for the Name-Var tag for the name > "Catherine Byerly", yet *five* are listed by TMG in the Individual Narrative report. > That fifth citation is for a census tag where she has the role > [RG:with Parents]. > > Why is that fifth citation, which doesn't seem applicable, included? > Brian, I want to expand on Richard's answer about the extra citation. TMG, like few (if any) other genealogy programs allows users to enter citations for the parent/child relationship. This is an essential feature - without documentation of these relationships you don't have a genealogy at all, but simply a series of narratives about apparently unrelated individuals (which is what you get with the Individual Narrative anyhow). Unfortunately, TMG has never provided a really useful way to output these citations in reports. The only way is to include them along with the citations for the Name Tag, which appear after the first appearance of the name. There is no good way for the reader to know which citations are for the name and which are for the relationship to each parent. I you do not want the relationship citations to appear you can uncheck the box for "Include Name Sources" on the Sources tab of Options. BTW, unless your subject has only one identified parent, this result indicates you have not entered any citations for her relationship to other parent. Terry Reigel The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 11/2/2016 1:03 AM, Brian Gross wrote: > There are only *four* citations for the Name-Var tag for the name "Catherine > Byerly", yet *five* are listed by TMG in the Individual Narrative report. > That fifth citation is for a census tag where she has the role [RG:with > Parents]. > > Why is that fifth citation, which doesn't seem applicable, included? > Brian, I want to expand on Richard's answer about the extra citation. TMG, like few (if any) other genealogy programs allows users to enter citations for the parent/child relationship. This is an essential feature - without documentation of these relationships you don't have a genealogy at all, but simply a series of narratives about apparently unrelated individuals (which is what you get with the Individual Narrative anyhow). Unfortunately, TMG has never provided a really useful way to output these citations in reports. The only way is to include them along with the citations for the Name Tag, which appear after the first appearance of the name. There is no good way for the reader to know which citations are for the name and which are for the relationship to each parent. I you do not want the relationship citations to appear you can uncheck the box for "Include Name Sources" on the Sources tab of Options. BTW, unless your subject has only one identified parent, this result indicates you have not entered any citations for her relationship to other parent. Terry Reigel

On 11/2/16 1:03 AM, Brian Gross wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm seeing some peculiar outputs from the Individual Narrative report. > > For example I get this output: > Catherine Byerly<1,2,3,4,5> was born on 28 Feb 1831 in > Pennsylvania<6,7,8,9,10>. > > (The <1,2,3> is my attempt to represent superscripts in this message.) > > **Confusion #1** > > Why does a CR occur between "in" and "Pennsylvania". > > The sentence is: > [P] was born <[D]> <[L]> > which doesn't appear to have that extra CR. > > **Confusion #2** > > There are only *four* citations for the Name-Var tag for the name "Catherine > Byerly", yet *five* are listed by TMG in the Individual Narrative report. > That fifth citation is for a census tag where she has the role [RG:with > Parents]. > > Why is that fifth citation, which doesn't seem applicable, included? > > Thanks! > > Brian > You might check if there is some funny character before Pennsylvania in the tag box (try deleting anything in front of the P) The extra Citation is probably from one of the Parent-Child relationship tags (Father or Mother) -- Richard Damon

Thank you everyone I am so delighted I installed the 9.05 update and the problem has cured itself It complicates things with tne difference and I am so grateful for everyone's help to a long time genealogist but a rank beginner when it comes to computer problems 82 years does not help with this problem Thanks you all again Diane Wilson -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+diane=wilson.gen.nz@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Cardinal Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 10:56 a.m. To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Unwanted Witness Sentences in individual narrative Michael, It's hard to provide useful remote support when there are multiple people giving advice, especially when advice from one responder contradicts advice from another. I will step out now and let you work with Diane. John The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you John for your reply I did as you suggested My reporting back was inefficient. I do apologise 1.Yes the subject is there as a principal 2. This is the sentence that shows Sutherland Wilson was born on 14 Mar 1898 in Paparimu, New Zealand. I have not used the witness function at all Many thanks Diane Wilson -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+diane=wilson.gen.nz@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Cardinal Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 1:16 a.m. To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Unwanted Witness Sentences in individual narrative Diane, You should update to 9.05, but not right now. We don't know what the problem is, and trying solutions without knowing the problem is a last resort. In my last message, I asked you two basic questions: 1 - Is the subject attached to the event as a principal or a witness? ... 2 - Is the subject's role correct? ... You didn't answer explicitly. You wrote, "The person's role was Principal", and that answers #2, but doesn't answer #1. I will assume that the subject is attached to the event in one of the principal slots. You also reported on multiple events, "for birth marriage and death tags." Please don't do that when responding to this message. As I wrote before, start by investigating a _single_ tag. Our communication will be efficient if you do so, and inefficient otherwise. So... Pick a person, then pick a single tag where the output is not correct. I suggest you pick a birth tag because a tag with a single principal will be easier to debug. Double-click the tag to open it in the Tag Entry window. Click the [Sentence] button. You should see something like this: Sentence structure: (Default) : [P] was born <[D]> <[L]> Please answer these questions: 1 - Does the heading about the sentence textbox show the text above, including "(Default)", or does it say "(Custom)"? Please answer "Default" or "Custom". 2 - What is the sentence? Please copy and paste the sentence text into your reply. Please answer both questions explicitly. I do a lot of email-based tech support and the biggest challenge is gathering information. If I could see your PC, this problem would be solved already. Unfortunately, I can't see it, so I ask questions to gather the information I need. John The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I'm seeing some peculiar outputs from the Individual Narrative report. For example I get this output: Catherine Byerly<1,2,3,4,5> was born on 28 Feb 1831 in Pennsylvania<6,7,8,9,10>. (The <1,2,3> is my attempt to represent superscripts in this message.) **Confusion #1** Why does a CR occur between "in" and "Pennsylvania". The sentence is: [P] was born <[D]> <[L]> which doesn't appear to have that extra CR. **Confusion #2** There are only *four* citations for the Name-Var tag for the name "Catherine Byerly", yet *five* are listed by TMG in the Individual Narrative report. That fifth citation is for a census tag where she has the role [RG:with Parents]. Why is that fifth citation, which doesn't seem applicable, included? Thanks! Brian

I noticed I frequently mistype "two" as "tow" so tried to search for all my past memo typos with the List of Events report, using the filter "memo contains tow."  The result was thousands of hits for all the memos with the words town, township, surnames like Estow, Stow,Towle, etc. My next tries were sTOWs (where s was a space) and then " TOW ".  Both ignored my attempt to force spaces into the filter. I finally got what I wanted with a two line filter: "memo contains tow" AND "memo does not contain town|towe|stow|towl|tows}twoc ...This took a lot of report runs to find all the "does-nots." I think Bob Velke once showed me a straight-forward way to do this on one of the TMG cruises.  Does anyone know it or am I mistaken? Bob

Michael, It's hard to provide useful remote support when there are multiple people giving advice, especially when advice from one responder contradicts advice from another. I will step out now and let you work with Diane. John