Be aware Jim that the Refugees site does not reflect (yet) the current state of play of the import functions just released in Legacy 9, or indeed the current version abilities of the other programs. And with regard to Legacy 9, it is probably too soon to comment fully as its import is very buggy, but will probably improve as they address the issues. Don F -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+don=ferguson.name@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Payne Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 9:57 AM To: 'Barbara Zanzig' <bzanzig@gmail.com>; TMG <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] What did you do when TMG no longer updated regularly? Got it now. Thanks very much Barbara Jim Payne New Zealand From: Barbara Zanzig [mailto:bzanzig@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 29 April 2017 11:35 a.m. To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Cc: familytreesearching@gmail.com Subject: Re: [TMG] What did you do when TMG no longer updated regularly? Sorry for the premature send there. James, are you looking for the TMG Refugee materials? Here's the contact information for the maillist and website: TMG refugee list address: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.ht ml TMG refugee list website: https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Barbara Zanzig <bzanzig@gmail.com <mailto:bzanzig@gmail.com> > wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:13 PM, James Payne <familytreesearching@gmail.com <mailto:familytreesearching@gmail.com> > wrote: I used to be able to go to a program/website/link?, that enabled me to find out what I needed to do to do before changing my TMG data to another genealogical program such as Legacy/RootsMagic, etc, etc. This was especially useful to me when TMG more or less shut down and we needed to link to other genealogical programs. (I hope I've described it correctly) Could a list reader suggest where I should go to find it? -- Barbara Zanzig The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I used to be able to go to a program/website/link?, that enabled me to find out what I needed to do to do before changing my TMG data to another genealogical program such as Legacy/RootsMagic, etc, etc. This was especially useful to me when TMG more or less shut down and we needed to link to other genealogical programs. (I hope I've described it correctly) Could a list reader suggest where I should go to find it? TIA Jim Payne New Zealand

At 10:39 PM 4/28/2017, sally v Houston wrote: >My TMG is still working fine, so I'll wait for HRE. Nothing currently >available comes close to offering the kind of reports I love in TMG. Unless you've still got a 32-bit W9x machine running UFT <G> {Which did a full descendent journal [chapter per end-point ancestor, in alphabetical order], with the equivalent of "follow surname, avoid duplicates" working in both directions [references to chapters already generated and to chapters yet to be processed]. TMG's combination of options only works in one direction -- if the followed surname has already been generated; when going in the other direction TMG stops the descent when the surname changes, but the subsequent chapter reacts to the "avoid duplicates" by going "this marriage has been processed, do not continue descent" I'll need to study the "book" feature some, but having to generate a separate family report definition for each end-point, then order them, and later manually add cross references where a "follow surname" truncation occurs is definitely not the same feature} -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

I'm following this new software development in the hope that a clean import of all TMG data will happen. https://historyresearchenvironment.org/ main site https://historyresearchenvironment.org/mailing-list/ mail list enrollment I suggest that anytime a question like this is asked that notice of this effort be noted. Jerry Fillebrown RUFTR -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+jerry=fillebrown.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Zanzig Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 6:33 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List Subject: Re: [TMG] What did you do when TMG no longer updated regularly? On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:13 PM, James Payne <familytreesearching@gmail.com> wrote: > I used to be able to go to a program/website/link?, that enabled me to > find out what I needed to do to do before changing my TMG data to > another genealogical program such as Legacy/RootsMagic, etc, etc. This > was especially useful to me when TMG more or less shut down and we > needed to link to other genealogical programs. (I hope I've described > it correctly) Could a list reader suggest where I should go to find it? > > TIA > > Jim Payne > > New Zealand > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Barbara Zanzig The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry for the premature send there. James, are you looking for the TMG Refugee materials? Here's the contact information for the maillist and website: TMG refugee list address: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TMG-REFUGEES.html TMG refugee list website: https://sites.google.com/site/tmgrefugees On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Barbara Zanzig <bzanzig@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:13 PM, James Payne < > familytreesearching@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I used to be able to go to a program/website/link?, that enabled me to >> find >> out what I needed to do to do before changing my TMG data to another >> genealogical program such as Legacy/RootsMagic, etc, etc. This was >> especially useful to me when TMG more or less shut down and we needed to >> link to other genealogical programs. (I hope I've described it correctly) >> Could a list reader suggest where I should go to find it? >> > -- Barbara Zanzig

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:13 PM, James Payne <familytreesearching@gmail.com> wrote: > I used to be able to go to a program/website/link?, that enabled me to find > out what I needed to do to do before changing my TMG data to another > genealogical program such as Legacy/RootsMagic, etc, etc. This was > especially useful to me when TMG more or less shut down and we needed to > link to other genealogical programs. (I hope I've described it correctly) > Could a list reader suggest where I should go to find it? > > TIA > > Jim Payne > > New Zealand > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Barbara Zanzig

At 4/28/2017 10:02, Cheryl Freeman wrote >My source template is: ><[CD1], ><"[CD2]", ><[LISTSERVE]>, discussion list<, [CD3]><, [URL]><: >accessed [CD4]><. [CM]> > >One of my sources does not have a [CD2]. I used an exclusion marker in the >space and the output is: >Darcey Slaughter, "-", Turner Message Board at Rootsweb, discussion list, 30 >January 2000, http://boards.rootsweb.com. > >How do I indicate that there is no text for [CD2] while keeping my [CD3] >text where it should be? I am guessing that your split CD segment are something like: CD1 - sender CD2 - Subject of the posting CD3 - more specifics about the message as pertains to this citation CD4 - date In my tests, the Exclusion Marker does not print in the citation. In my tests, I entered the Citation Detail like this: James Smith||-||discussing John Smith's wife's death in 1874||15 Apr 2017 Be sure there is no space before or after the Exclusion Marker . Also, the comma in "<[LISTSERVE]>, discussion list" might be removed like "<[LISTSERVE]> discussion list". My results looked like this: [1]James Smith, KYBath discussion list, discussing John Smith 's wife's death in 1874, <www.somedomain.com>: accessed 2017. Lee

At 10:24 AM 4/28/2017, John Cardinal wrote: >Cheryl, > >Enter consecutive "||" characters: > > Part One||||Part Three For some reason, the help file has this to say: >Empty Split Citation Detail and Citation Memo Field Parts >If you use multiple split memo parts, you should always use a 'place >holder' space in any empty memo parts. >For example, use: >|| || ||Miscellaneous notes||Pages 7-9 >(Memo parts 1, 2 and 3 are empty in this example.) >And don't use: >||||||Miscellaneous notes||Pages 7-9 Maybe it's just a recommendation to make future editing easier, in place of trying to count | to find the insert point. >I thought an exclusion marker would work, but given it doesn't, you can use >the technique shown above. The only thing I've found for that WRT citations is: >Excluded Citations > >The source number in an embedded citation (i.e., in the middle of an >event memo) may now be preceded by an exclusion marker (-), e.g., >[CIT:]-12;page 127[:CIT]. In this case, the citation to source >number 12 would only be included when "Show excluded citations" is turned on. -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

At 10:24 AM 4/28/2017, John Cardinal wrote: >Cheryl, > >Enter consecutive "||" characters: > > Part One||||Part Three For some reason, the help file has this to say: >Empty Split Citation Detail and Citation Memo Field Parts >If you use multiple split memo parts, you should always use a 'place >holder' space in any empty memo parts. >For example, use: >|| || ||Miscellaneous notes||Pages 7-9 >(Memo parts 1, 2 and 3 are empty in this example.) >And don't use: >||||||Miscellaneous notes||Pages 7-9 Maybe it's just a recommendation to make future editing easier, in place of trying to count | to find the insert point. >I thought an exclusion marker would work, but given it doesn't, you can use >the technique shown above. The only thing I've found for that WRT citations is: >Excluded Citations > >The source number in an embedded citation (i.e., in the middle of an >event memo) may now be preceded by an exclusion marker (-), e.g., >[CIT:]-12;page 127[:CIT]. In this case, the citation to source >number 12 would only be included when "Show excluded citations" is turned on. -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

Dennis, I just created a report with that sentence, both with a space between the pipe sets and no space. Both ways generated a correct sentence, but it's easier to edit/view the sentence with the placeholder space. -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+cheryl=genattic.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Lee Bieber Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:13 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Cc: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] No text for conditional [CD] At 10:24 AM 4/28/2017, John Cardinal wrote: >Cheryl, > >Enter consecutive "||" characters: > > Part One||||Part Three For some reason, the help file has this to say: >Empty Split Citation Detail and Citation Memo Field Parts If you use >multiple split memo parts, you should always use a 'place holder' space >in any empty memo parts. >For example, use: >|| || ||Miscellaneous notes||Pages 7-9 >(Memo parts 1, 2 and 3 are empty in this example.) And don't use: >||||||Miscellaneous notes||Pages 7-9 Maybe it's just a recommendation to make future editing easier, in place of trying to count | to find the insert point. >I thought an exclusion marker would work, but given it doesn't, you can use >the technique shown above. The only thing I've found for that WRT citations is: >Excluded Citations > >The source number in an embedded citation (i.e., in the middle of an >event memo) may now be preceded by an exclusion marker (-), e.g., >[CIT:]-12;page 127[:CIT]. In this case, the citation to source >number 12 would only be included when "Show excluded citations" is turned on. -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Without a space. Got it! Thanks again, John! -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+cheryl=genattic.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Cardinal Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 9:25 AM To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] No text for conditional [CD] Cheryl, Enter consecutive "||" characters: Part One||||Part Three I thought an exclusion marker would work, but given it doesn't, you can use the technique shown above. John The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cheryl, Enter consecutive "||" characters: Part One||||Part Three I thought an exclusion marker would work, but given it doesn't, you can use the technique shown above. John

John, thank you! I have some [CD]s created years ago that I thought used to work with exclusion markers in them to keep them blank. I think getting a "-" in the output is a new event but I cannot say for certain. I tried leaving it blank, and it works well. I am very close to finishing my review reviewing of data for people included in my SS site whose surname begins with "Tu." I'll be going to the NGS conference in a bit more than a week, but after that trip, I am so looking forward to making my SS site for the first time in years! Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+cheryl=genattic.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Cardinal Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 9:25 AM To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] No text for conditional [CD] Cheryl, Enter consecutive "||" characters: Part One||||Part Three I thought an exclusion marker would work, but given it doesn't, you can use the technique shown above. John The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My source template is: <[CD1], ><"[CD2]", ><[LISTSERVE]>, discussion list<, [CD3]><, [URL]><: accessed [CD4]><. [CM]> One of my sources does not have a [CD2]. I used an exclusion marker in the space and the output is: Darcey Slaughter, "-", Turner Message Board at Rootsweb, discussion list, 30 January 2000, http://boards.rootsweb.com. How do I indicate that there is no text for [CD2] while keeping my [CD3] text where it should be? Thanks! Cheryl Freeman

Yes that was it and the reminder let me find it in my stored software files. I have now got about half way through Georgia checking the Place files. I am finding errors. Mostly place s in the wrong state. Very boring as I go a long way between errors. On 4/26/2017 6:13 PM, Gary Rolph wrote: > Gensmarts is an application that reads TMG files and compiles a list of > possible Place name errors. > > Gary Rolph > > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+gary.rolph=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Gary Kueber > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:58 PM > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [TMG] Checking Master Place List > > I have used Map My Family Tree by Progeny Software. It reads the TMG Master > Place List file and maps them. It produces a list of all places it > considers to be errors. It's file is out of date and it is far from perfect > but I still find it very useful to look for errors. I do not use it for the > maps. > > Back when I first acquired it it was free. Now they sell it. > > Gary Kueber > > > On 4/25/2017 5:14 PM, Ed Hotchkin wrote: >> It seems that I once had a piece of software to check the Master Place >> List. I have thousands of Place Locations in it and I must have >> created many errors over the years that I would like to correct. I am >> using TMG 9.05 on a 64 bit computer with Win 10 installed. >> >> > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Ed Hotchkin hotchkinfamilyhistory.com

At 10:00 AM 4/27/2017, Ines Mannhardt wrote: >I have person A with the number 1:123, person B has the number >2:456, they both are in the same data set, A The 1: and 2: indicate that these individuals are still in separate data sets within the project. Per the help file: """ NOTE: You can only merge people who reside in the same data set, although you can compare people from different data sets. If the [Merge] button is grayed out, check to be sure the two people you are trying to merge are in the same data set. If not, you must move or copy one of them first -- or merge the two data sets. """ -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

At 4/27/2017 10:00, Ines Mannhardt wrote >a long time ago I merged 2 data sets and now have a lot of duplicate >people. I am trying to merge these people into one person, without success. > >I have person A with the number 1:123, person B has the number >2:456, they both are in the same data set, A came from dataset 1, B >came from dataset 2. When I click on Tools and Merge 2 people, I get >both people on my screen, I pick what I want merged and what I want >discarded. The "merge" is greyed out and does not highlight, I use >split screen or combined screen, no difference. Actually the persons are not in the same data set. Person ID#s in TMG when there is more than one data set have the data set ID# at the beginning of the Person ID# separated by a colon. Thus ID# 1:123 is person 123 from data set 1, and person 2.456 is person 456 from data set 2. When you merged the two data sets, the persons from the "merging from" data set were added to the "merged into" data set. BUT, the "merging from" data set remained untouched. Following the merge, did you delete the "merging from" data set? What happened is this: Before the merge: data set 1 had 1:123 data set 2 had 2:456 After the merge: data set 1 had 1:123 1:987 (formerly 2:456 and is a _copy_) data set 2 had: 2:456 You have likely already merged persons 1:123 and 1:987 leaving just 1:123 in data set 1, but data set 2 remains. IF you no longer need data set 2, you can delete it. Lee

Hi, a long time ago I merged 2 data sets and now have a lot of duplicate people. I am trying to merge these people into one person, without success. I have person A with the number 1:123, person B has the number 2:456, they both are in the same data set, A came from dataset 1, B came from dataset 2. When I click on Tools and Merge 2 people, I get both people on my screen, I pick what I want merged and what I want discarded. The "merge" is greyed out and does not highlight, I use split screen or combined screen, no difference. I am using TMG 9.05 with Windows 10. Can anybody help? Thank you, Ines

Gensmarts is an application that reads TMG files and compiles a list of possible Place name errors. Gary Rolph -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+gary.rolph=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kueber Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:58 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Checking Master Place List I have used Map My Family Tree by Progeny Software. It reads the TMG Master Place List file and maps them. It produces a list of all places it considers to be errors. It's file is out of date and it is far from perfect but I still find it very useful to look for errors. I do not use it for the maps. Back when I first acquired it it was free. Now they sell it. Gary Kueber On 4/25/2017 5:14 PM, Ed Hotchkin wrote: > It seems that I once had a piece of software to check the Master Place > List. I have thousands of Place Locations in it and I must have > created many errors over the years that I would like to correct. I am > using TMG 9.05 on a 64 bit computer with Win 10 installed. > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 4/26/2017 16:45, Charlie Towne wrote >The only problem with this procedure is that for towns close to a >county boundary, you can't zoom in to tell for sure which county the >town is in. Maybe this is what you were referring to for your >example of Clay City, KY. Using AniMap I get the following for Clay City. > > 1792-1795 Clark Co. > 1796-1807 Clark or Montgomery Co. (too close to border) > 1807-1850 probably Clark or Montgomery Co., possibly Estill Co. > 1850-now Powell Co. My intent to showcase a location close to a county line. The actual location was in Clark, Montgomery, and then Powell Counties. The earliest settlement in the area was supposedly by two brother who thought they had found gold about 1785, but had actually found pyrite (fool's gold). Thus the settlement may have first been in Bourbon or even Fayette.counties. There is a nice History Museum there. I have heard from talking with History Museum workers that there is also a Buddhist Temple -- I think a relatively recent addition to the area. Lee