Bob, I just did the same thing and haven't seen this issue. Teresa Elliott > On Jun 11, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Bob McVicar <mcvicar@ripnet.com> wrote: > > I recently purchased a new laptop with Windows 10 and installed TMG 9.05 apparently with no problems. However when I open TMG, I get a message that access to the file _programstartlog.log is denied and when I open the previously used project, I get the message that access to the file registercontrol.log is denied. If I click on ignore in both cases, I am able to browse in my project, but I am unable to save any changes in it. Are there some settings in Windows that I have to change? > > > Bob McVicar > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rather often when working in TMG I do something that causes an "Open File" selection window to open. This window opens automatically to C:\Program Files (x86)\The Master Genealogist v9 and indicates "Files of type: Table/DBF (*.dbf)". I assume that whatever I have done is making TMG look for a DBF file, none of the *.dbf files available in this window (at C:\Program Files (x86)\The Master Genealogist v9) work. Each time I select a file and click "OK" the file select window just opens again. Clicking "Cancel" closes the window, but it immediately re-opens. Clicking on the "X" in the upper right of the window does nothing. All the rest of TMG is inaccessible while this window is open. The only way I can get out of this is to do a [Ctrl] [Alt] [Del] to get Task Manager and close TMG from there. I have not been able to figure out what key combination I may be typing that causes this window to open, but it happens several times in a multi-hour work session and is pretty annoying. Can anyone help me understand: 1. What I might be doing to make this happen, and 2. If there are any actions I can take to close the window without having to go Task Manager to kill TMG? Thanks for any help! Greg

On 6/11/2017 3:39 AM, Margaret Whitaker wrote: > Following the recent query on re-numbering data sets, (or projects ?) I > decided to renumber several small projects taken from one original project > which I now know are completely unrelated. When I go to renumbering people, > I am unable to change the selected dataset from the original dataset from > which these separate groups were taken. What have I missed ? > Margaret, Are you trying to renumber people from one Data Set to another? You can't do that. If you want to move people between Data Sets you have to use the Move Person(s) command. Terry Reigel

Hi, I had lost the column where the age was shown and would like to get it back. Can someone please let me know how? Thanks in advance, Jim Ward -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+hal2001=shaw.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of tmg-request@rootsweb.com Sent: June 11, 2017 12:00 AM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 249 Send TMG mailing list submissions to tmg@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/tmg or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to tmg-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at tmg-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of TMG digest..." The TMG archive is at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ How to subscribe to TMG is at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG. html Today's Topics: 1. Re: Age in Person View for post-death events (Lindsay Graham) ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 16:25:15 +1000 From: Lindsay Graham <LDGraham@iinet.net.au> To: <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Age in Person View for post-death events Message-ID: <8157bcee-ca0e-a1da-9b48-5aec0de9c052@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Thanks for your replies as below. I had rather expected that I'd have to live with it, and that's certainly not a big problem. Terry and David -- I do want the dates, so sort dates only is not really a solution. Michael -- problem is just that 'non-real' ages appearing in the Person View looks odd to me. Narratives are not an issue. Thanks again, Lindsay Graham On 11/6/17 05:59, Michael J Hannah wrote: > Not sure of the problem, Lindsay??? > > That column is only visable when using TMG. The Age associated with > an event is only ever output in the narrative for a tag if the > sentence for that tag includes an Age sentence variable. Suppressing > that output by customizing those sentences is easy. So only the person > using TMG (which is usually only you) will ever see this column. > > Yes you "can" not include a Date for those tags, but often the Date > for those events is desired in the narrative of that event so that is > usually not a viable option. > > Of course you can not include the Age column in the Person View > <grin>. But otherwise, as Terry suggests, that column is either on or > off for all events of every kind. > > Personally I don't find the Age incongruous. All one need do is think > of it as "This event occured on the 104th anniversary of his birth" > which can be interesting. But that is only my opinion. > > Michael On 11/6/17 02:20, David Ball wrote: > As Terry noted, don't enter a visible date, but of course you can > still enter a sort date to make the tag appear in the correct time order. > > Dave Ball On 11/6/17 01:37, Terry Reigel wrote: > Lindsay, > > Well, yes. Don't enter a Date in the Tag for those events. :-/ > > Other than that, no. > > Terry Reigel > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+dgballtmg=shaw.ca@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Lindsay Graham > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:48 AM > To: TMG List > Subject: [TMG] Age in Person View for post-death events > > There can be many post-death events including Burial, Probate, > Gravestone details and witnesses in later events (eg, a deceased child > named in a parent's death notice). The age column in the Person View > shows an age for each of these which can be rather incongruous. > > Is there any way of suppressing the Age for post-death events? > > Lindsay Graham > Canberra, Australia > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the TMG list administrator, send an email to TMG-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TMG mailing list, send an email to TMG@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 249 ************************************

There can be many post-death events including Burial, Probate, Gravestone details and witnesses in later events (eg, a deceased child named in a parent's death notice). The age column in the Person View shows an age for each of these which can be rather incongruous. Is there any way of suppressing the Age for post-death events? Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia

Lindsay Graham wrote: > There can be many post-death events... The age column > in the Person View shows an age for each of these... > Is there any way of suppressing the Age... Not sure of the problem, Lindsay??? That column is only visable when using TMG. The Age associated with an event is only ever output in the narrative for a tag if the sentence for that tag includes an Age sentence variable. Suppressing that output by customizing those sentences is easy. So only the person using TMG (which is usually only you) will ever see this column. Yes you "can" not include a Date for those tags, but often the Date for those events is desired in the narrative of that event so that is usually not a viable option. Of course you can not include the Age column in the Person View <grin>. But otherwise, as Terry suggests, that column is either on or off for all events of every kind. Personally I don't find the Age incongruous. All one need do is think of it as "This event occured on the 104th anniversary of his birth" which can be interesting. But that is only my opinion. Michael

On 6/10/2017 10:48 AM, Lindsay Graham wrote: > There can be many post-death events including Burial, Probate, > Gravestone details and witnesses in later events (eg, a deceased child > named in a parent's death notice). The age column in the Person View > shows an age for each of these which can be rather incongruous. > > Is there any way of suppressing the Age for post-death events? > Lindsay, Well, yes. Don't enter a Date in the Tag for those events. :-/ Other than that, no. Terry Reigel

As Terry noted, don't enter a visible date, but of course you can still enter a sort date to make the tag appear in the correct time order. Dave Ball -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+dgballtmg=shaw.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lindsay Graham Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:48 AM To: TMG List Subject: [TMG] Age in Person View for post-death events There can be many post-death events including Burial, Probate, Gravestone details and witnesses in later events (eg, a deceased child named in a parent's death notice). The age column in the Person View shows an age for each of these which can be rather incongruous. Is there any way of suppressing the Age for post-death events? Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Constance. I have received a reply already. My hope is to get back into the genealogy/TMG mode next week, so will be asking all kinds of questions at that time. -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+peggy=thehaskells.us@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Constance Chappell Horne Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 9:42 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List Subject: Re: [TMG] questions from a newbie The only support for TMG is via this list or the archives here: http://www.whollygenes.com/ as the company has gone out of business, unfortunately. That said, I'm sure that someone will respond presently to assist you. Constance Chappell Horne TMG List Administrator The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for your reply and the information. I am hoping to be if front of my desktop all next week (where my TMG info is located) and will try sending the suggestions you mentioned. peggy -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:tmg-bounces+peggy=thehaskells.us@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lee Hoffman/KY Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 9:29 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List Subject: Re: [TMG] questions from a newbie At 6/8/2017 10:04, Peggy Haskell wrote >Not sure if this is the correct place to ask my questions, but know >of no other place. After a 10 year absence from my genealogy & >TMG, I am finally ready to devote time to it >again. However, after subscribing to the TMG Q&A/blog site, I >feel like I am in a foreign land. I am rather efficient at >research and at data entry, but when it comes to computer problems, I >am at a complete loss. >Even thought perhaps the TMG newsletter/blog would be of some help in >restarting, but most of what I am reading is completely above my head >right now. >Q 1. IS THERE STILL A TMG SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER? I cannot open my >V-7 family files. Not sure if it is my error OR if TMG has not >been installed on my current computer(s). >Q2. In light of Q1, is there someone out there with the capabilities >of looking at my problem remotely? >Q3. If so, how do I contact them? You don't. Wholly Genes went out of business at the end of 2014. The announcement was made in July. At the time, TMGv9 was the current and latest version. A few months later, a find upgrade was made to TMGv9 to fix a few bugs and some other things that would help users who wished to prepare for some other program. Help for users is now pretty much limited to this mailing list, its companion RootsWeb message board, and to the Wholly Genes Community Forum (while it remains). In all cases, the help is from other users. So, post your questions here or on one of the other forums. Tell us exactly what you are seeing and what steps you are taking, and what any error messages are. Many still have TMG v7 and are likely to be able to help. Lee The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask my questions, but know of no other place. After a 10 year absence from my genealogy & TMG, I am finally ready to devote time to it again. However, after subscribing to the TMG Q&A/blog site, I feel like I am in a foreign land. I am rather efficient at research and at data entry, but when it comes to computer problems, I am at a complete loss. Even thought perhaps the TMG newsletter/blog would be of some help in restarting, but most of what I am reading is completely above my head right now. Q 1. IS THERE STILL A TMG SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER? I cannot open my V-7 family files. Not sure if it is my error OR if TMG has not been installed on my current computer(s). Q2. In light of Q1, is there someone out there with the capabilities of looking at my problem remotely? Q3. If so, how do I contact them? Peggy haskell@nctc.net<mailto:Haskell@nctc.net>

Hi Everyone, I seem to be getting an error code every time I try to back up using "BACKUP ALL". I have tried to reinstalling a new downloaded TMG ver 9.5. The error shows "OLE exception error: Exception code c00000fd.OLE object may be corrupt". I have tried older backups but still get the same. Any suggestions? John Van Dyke Brewer, Maine

The only support for TMG is via this list or the archives here: http://www.whollygenes.com/ as the company has gone out of business, unfortunately. That said, I'm sure that someone will respond presently to assist you. Constance Chappell Horne TMG List Administrator

At 6/8/2017 10:04, Peggy Haskell wrote >Not sure if this is the correct place to ask my questions, but know >of no other place. After a 10 year absence from my genealogy & >TMG, I am finally ready to devote time to it >again. However, after subscribing to the TMG Q&A/blog site, I >feel like I am in a foreign land. I am rather efficient at >research and at data entry, but when it comes to computer problems, >I am at a complete loss. >Even thought perhaps the TMG newsletter/blog would be of some help >in restarting, but most of what I am reading is completely above my >head right now. >Q 1. IS THERE STILL A TMG SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER? I cannot open my >V-7 family files. Not sure if it is my error OR if TMG has not >been installed on my current computer(s). >Q2. In light of Q1, is there someone out there with the >capabilities of looking at my problem remotely? >Q3. If so, how do I contact them? You don't. Wholly Genes went out of business at the end of 2014. The announcement was made in July. At the time, TMGv9 was the current and latest version. A few months later, a find upgrade was made to TMGv9 to fix a few bugs and some other things that would help users who wished to prepare for some other program. Help for users is now pretty much limited to this mailing list, its companion RootsWeb message board, and to the Wholly Genes Community Forum (while it remains). In all cases, the help is from other users. So, post your questions here or on one of the other forums. Tell us exactly what you are seeing and what steps you are taking, and what any error messages are. Many still have TMG v7 and are likely to be able to help. Lee

Thank you, thank you, Lee and Michael, Most of the time (98/99%???) of the time, Validate says No problems found, so then there's no need to do more than Optimize/Validate/Optimize (and then what I always do Backup). Good. Guess I misremembered the advice given years ago. Sam On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Lee Hoffman/KY <azchief@bellsouth.net> wrote: > At 6/6/2017 19:39, Blah BlahBlah wrote >> >> How many times is one supposed to Optimize and then Validate File >> Integrity? > > > Until you get the notice that no problems were found. > >> I have often done this 5-6 times and still end up eventually with >> something like 1.3 million bytes difference. > > > There will always be some difference depending on the size of your project. > Larger project will have larger differences. The differences are in the > administrative databases that are deleted and re-created as needed during > the Maintenance functions. > >> What exactly are these procedures doing and why don't they do >> whatever it is they are supposed to do the first time round, right up >> front? Why is repetition necessary? > > > The first time(s) they run, they perform their function. But this may show > up something else. So additional runs are needed. Usually only a second > run is needed. More is unusual. > >> And when Validate File Integrity says it has corrected a problem >> (once, four problems found, I believe), I'd still like to know what >> the problem was. Earlier Terry or Lee said to check a log, but the one >> time I did that, I didn't see anything indicating what was changed. So >> what kind of problems does Validate catch? > > > Almost all of these are administrative errors. By itself, any one problem > will rarely be a real problem. The most usual is where the index get out. > Then you wind up going to a different person than the one intended, getting > a report for the wrong person, etc. The log does tell you some of what was > done, but it is often somewhat generic in its reporting. I often don't even > look at the log unless there are missing Exhibits. > >> So ... at some point is there supposed to be no difference after >> doing Optimize/Validate repeatedly? > > > No. > > Lee >

At 6/8/2017 06:21, Robin Kaspar wrote >This is great news. When I started scanning >bazillions of paper source documents into >Evernote, I decided to tag each note with the ID >numbers of the people of focus in the documents. >I thought one of those processes changed the ID >numbers and I had to decide if I would be ok >with that should I someday be forced to re-index >my database. I have not had any problems that >would indicate the need to optimize, so I haven’t done it. Having a need to Reindex, Optimize, or Validate File Integrity should not be the only reason to run these functions. These should be run periodically as they organize the files in your project and make them more efficient. I usually run these functions every week or so. I have no set time, it just depends on how much data I am entering or editing. There have been times when I have not run the Maintenance functions for a month or so (very rare) because I have not done any work with the data (though I may have generated reported during that time). But, I also have run them a every few days when I have done a lot of data entry and editing. Lately, I suspect I run them more often than I used to when my question of when was the last time is answered with "I don't remember." <g> Lee

This is great news. When I started scanning bazillions of paper source documents into Evernote, I decided to tag each note with the ID numbers of the people of focus in the documents. I thought one of those processes changed the ID numbers and I had to decide if I would be ok with that should I someday be forced to re-index my database. I have not had any problems that would indicate the need to optimize, so I haven’t done it. Robin in Short Pump > On Jun 7, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Michael J Hannah <mjh@rr-nm.net> wrote: > > Robin Kaspar wrote: >> Please refresh my memory: does either (or both) of these processes >> re-index everything and change the ID numbers? > > Yes, Optimize also does a reindex of internal pointers. But neither Optimize nor Validate changes ID numbers. There are ways in TMG to change ID numbers, but you have to explicitly choose to do so using different tools. > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 6/7/2017 13:07, Robin Kaspar wrote >Please refresh my memory: does either (or both) of these processes >re-index everything and change the ID numbers? As Michael said, neither of these will change ID numbers. You have to explicitly do that. There are two ways:. Both start with the Renumber People option from the Tools Menu.. You may choose to 'Renumber one person', enter the ID# of the person to be renumbered and the new ID#. Note that this is is _not_ a way to combine (merge) persons. There are various reasons for renumbering persons -- most are personal preference. The "To" number must be presently unused. You can press [F2] to get a list of unused ID#. The second option is to 'Renumber people in the selected data set'. When you select this option, TMG will renumber the data set so that there will no be any unused ID#s. For example suppose you have five persons in the data set numbered 1, 3, 5, 7, and 10. After the data set renumbering, the persons will be numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 respectively. This option minght be used if you have merged two or more data sets (maybe two GEDCOMs from other users), have then merged the "duplicate" persons and have no interest in how any of the persons are numbered. This more or less gets rid of the "unused" ID#s sprinkled through the data set. Lee

Please refresh my memory: does either (or both) of these processes re-index everything and change the ID numbers? Robin in Short Pump > On Jun 7, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Lee Hoffman/KY <azchief@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > At 6/6/2017 19:39, Blah BlahBlah wrote >> How many times is one supposed to Optimize and then Validate File Integrity? > > Until you get the notice that no problems were found. > >> I have often done this 5-6 times and still end up eventually with >> something like 1.3 million bytes difference. > > There will always be some difference depending on the size of your project. Larger project will have larger differences. The differences are in the administrative databases that are deleted and re-created as needed during the Maintenance functions. > >> What exactly are these procedures doing and why don't they do >> whatever it is they are supposed to do the first time round, right up >> front? Why is repetition necessary? > > The first time(s) they run, they perform their function. But this may show up something else. So additional runs are needed. Usually only a second run is needed. More is unusual. > >> And when Validate File Integrity says it has corrected a problem >> (once, four problems found, I believe), I'd still like to know what >> the problem was. Earlier Terry or Lee said to check a log, but the one >> time I did that, I didn't see anything indicating what was changed. So >> what kind of problems does Validate catch? > > Almost all of these are administrative errors. By itself, any one problem will rarely be a real problem. The most usual is where the index get out. Then you wind up going to a different person than the one intended, getting a report for the wrong person, etc. The log does tell you some of what was done, but it is often somewhat generic in its reporting. I often don't even look at the log unless there are missing Exhibits. > >> So ... at some point is there supposed to be no difference after >> doing Optimize/Validate repeatedly? > > No. > > Lee > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robin Kaspar wrote: > Please refresh my memory: does either (or both) of these processes > re-index everything and change the ID numbers? Yes, Optimize also does a reindex of internal pointers. But neither Optimize nor Validate changes ID numbers. There are ways in TMG to change ID numbers, but you have to explicitly choose to do so using different tools.