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    1. [TMG] Fwd: Case 01907814 [ ref:_00D506zQ6._5002J1CjmzZ:ref ]
    2. Patrick Lofft
    3. Regarding the concerns for security of the Lulu.com website. Patrick M. Lofft Genealogy Researcher & Lecturer Begin forwarded message: From: Lulu Support <existing_ticket@lulu.com> Date: February 11, 2019 at 9:21:06 AM PST To: "pmlofft@comcast.net" <pmlofft@comcast.net> Subject: Case 01907814 [ ref:_00D506zQ6._5002J1CjmzZ:ref ] Hello Patrick, Thank you for contacting Lulu Support. My name is Anna-Marie and I'll be happy to assist you today. I am sorry that you don't feel secure to place an order on our website. Our site uses HTTPS encryption as shown in the URL. Please note that your financial details are fully encrypted and secure. Our shopping cart is secure with Comodo Secure. The Comodo Secure technology isolates your browser inside a secure container which cannot be hacked, tracked or viewed by malware or internet thieves. On some of our pages, some browsers don't show the padlock because some images on the page aren't completely encrypted; things like the cover thumbnails aren't encrypted. It doesn't affect the security of our checkout and doesn't make your information vulnerable. I hope this information helped you. If you have any further concerns, please let me know. Best regards, Anna-Marie M. Lulu Press, Inc. Follow: http://www.twitter.com/luludotcom Like: http://www.fb.com/luludotcom Current Discounts: www.lulu.com/home Refer a Writer: https://www.lulu.com/promos/referral Customer Information: CID OID pmlofft@comcast.net Customer Comments: Please improve the security on your site: http://www.lulu.com/shop/tri-valley-tmg-users-group/source-templates-for-the-master-genealogisttm/paperback/product-22804992.html ref:_00D506zQ6._5002J1CjmzZ:ref

    02/15/2019 06:39:23
    1. [TMG] Re: BDM Certificates
    2. Andrew Clark
    3. Hahaha Tim, I agree with your comments re: time and money... I am similar to Nancy and find flags the way to go. Andrew from Melbourne. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Hill <timandpolly@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2019 7:45 AM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] BDM Certificates I have an idea that I would like some feedback on. In my tree I have a lot of people and for most of them, I don't actually have their birth, death or marriage certificates. Instead, I have other documents with varying degrees of surety. For the people that I am closest to, I would like to get the certificates when I get the time and money to do so, but in the meantime I want a method in TMG to identify which certificates I have and which I don't have. To do this, I was thinking of creating three new tag types. These would be direct copies of my standard Birth, Death and Marriage tags, but with the suffix of '-C' so 'Birth'-C'. They would function identically to their corresponding tag, but would indicate that I had the certificate for this event. Then I could run reports on my project that showed me which certificates I still had outstanding for my ancestors. I could also see at a glance on my TMG person screen if I had the certificates for that person by looking for the '-C' suffice on the BDM tags. All my certificates are stored in the same place, so it shouldn't be an insurmountable job to change the tag types... ... But before I go ahead I would be interested in hearing if people could point out the flaw in my plan or suggest a better way. Thanks, Tim from Melbourne _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa81bac5ef174cbfedc908d69386a316%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636858603795414084&amp;sdata=VFaGp9MnzW1Wwfu%2BFRw7nbPU9y0u83GNrPS9hwq8Df0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Ftmg%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa81bac5ef174cbfedc908d69386a316%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636858603795424092&amp;sdata=HbeC6UQGQ7q1LBslDaYf9pYsfOHWdB0kQ3ixA8FPkBY%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa81bac5ef174cbfedc908d69386a316%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636858603795424092&amp;sdata=%2F9ke0gqV3UvM7EmQkgtsuYZvKDrPokN6AdHheOUl4HQ%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa81bac5ef174cbfedc908d69386a316%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636858603795424092&amp;sdata=j6NucsCYZTz0zAgziejiDl0Fn9BsCKiHrRq3nEKInVc%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa81bac5ef174cbfedc908d69386a316%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636858603795424092&amp;sdata=ODdC8BHKlVaxceIWkdnvvWpNqF31%2F6yXxhN3vsDfH34%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/15/2019 04:27:00
    1. [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. leoglue
    3. Thanks for validating my approach!Leo Glueckstein 920 698 1669Sent from my U.S.Cellular© Smartphone S9 -------- Original message --------From: Terry Reigel <terry@reigelridge.com> Date: 2/15/19 3:05 PM (GMT-05:00) To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS On 2/15/2019 12:41 PM, Nancy W. wrote:> I want to send family information to a newly found cousinwho knows nothing about the family and doesn’t seem interested in becoming agenealogist.> A pedigree chart with simple family group sheets to expound on families would bethe clearest way to send the information. (Comments welcome)Nancy,In my view family group sheets and pedigrees are boring to tears. I'd never send them to someone who isn't an old-school genealogist. I only send narratives. But maybe that's just me.>   Pedigree charts – how can I specify which wife?  Her father had 4 wives; I want the 3rdone, the only one with whom he had children.You can't. Each of them is his "family." Just delete the ones you don't want to send. But then you lose the fact that he had three wives, which I think is important. That's why I use narratives. :-)Terry Reigel_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/15/2019 04:21:53
    1. [TMG] Re: BDM Certificates
    2. Michael J. Hannah
    3. Tim Hill wrote: > I have an idea that I would like some feedback on. > In my tree I have a lot of people and for most of them, > I don't actually have their birth, death or marriage certificates... > in the meantime I want a method in TMG to identify > which certificates I have and which I don't have. > To do this, I was thinking of creating three new tag types... Hi Tim, Others have suggested a custom Flag, or Roles on the Standard tags, which are good ideas. But in this case I prefer separate tag types as you are thinking of doing. However, in my case I do the reverse of what you choose to do. I have BirthAssume, Marr Assume, and DeathAssume for people where I do not have what I consider definitive citations. But as you note one can easily change such a tag type to the Standard name when one is able to cite better documentation. Whichever way one indicates the difference, an advantage of using a separate tag type is that they can be color coded to be different than the Standard tag types. I find that even easier to spot than to just have a different tag name. I have even gone to the trouble to customize TMG so that the BDM Hotkeys will invoke these "Assume" tags for new tags and will be used for new people. (Ask how if you want to also do that.) I can then use the Secondary Output on reports to set Flags for people who have "Assume" tags of interest, but also Filter on some other criteria to focus my research. Of course one could Filter based on a combination of Flags. But I find colored tags more "in my face". Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

    02/15/2019 03:50:58
    1. [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. sally v Houston
    3. Nancy - pedigree chart is only for one person, and does not include that person's siblings. - Sally I use the compressed pedigree all the time. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 2:08 PM Nancy W. <wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Dennis, > Re: dates of parents on Family Group Sheet - under Report Options, Dates, > Lifespan of parents - I had checked date to date, replaced that with None. > Marriages - they are all primary because all 4 wives were different people. > > Terry - I agree with you, but a journal report is the book I thought I > might write and finally decided it I would never get it done. > Sally - I have finally decided you are correct. I did not want to waste a > whole generation of the pedigree chart on her half brother with whom she is > already in contact. I also do not want to slight the other two children. > (Children! We are all over 65!) > I think I will send her a 'brief' journal report then write up a more > detailed story of each ancestor separately, as I get them completed. > > Nancy > On Friday, February 15, 2019, 3:28:29 PM CST, sally v Houston < > svhous@gmail.com> wrote: > > The pedigree chart for the child of that mother will only have that mother > in it. By definition it only includes direct line, not other spouses of > collateral branches. > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM Nancy W. <wright4766@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > I found how to eliminate the birth and death dates on the family group > > sheet. > > > > I still need to know how to designate which wife to use for the pedigree > > chart. > > Nancy > > > > > > On Friday, February 15, 2019, 11:42:06 AM CST, Nancy W. < > > wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > I want to send family information to a newly found cousinwho knows > nothing > > about the family and doesn’t seem interested in becoming agenealogist. > > A pedigree chart with simple family group sheets to expound on families > > would bethe clearest way to send the information. (Comments welcome) > > > > The family group sheet is printing the birth and death datesafter every > > spouse’s name. I have resetthe report to the defaults but I am still > > getting these dates. It clutters the report and is unnecessary. I don’t > > see a way to remove this informationand I don’t remember it printing like > > that in the past. > > > > How can I remove the excess information? > > Pedigree charts – how can I specify which wife? Her father had 4 wives; > > I want the 3rdone, the only one with whom he had children. > > Nancy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    02/15/2019 03:31:26
    1. [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. Nancy W.
    3. Dennis, Re: dates of parents on Family Group Sheet - under Report Options, Dates, Lifespan of parents - I had checked date to date, replaced that with None. Marriages - they are all primary because all 4 wives were different people. Terry - I agree with you, but a journal report is the book I thought I might write and finally decided it I would never get it done. Sally - I have finally decided you are correct.  I did not want to waste a whole generation of the pedigree chart on her half brother with whom she is already in contact.  I also do not want to slight the other two children. (Children!  We are all over 65!) I think I will send her a 'brief' journal report then write up a more detailed story of each ancestor separately, as I get them completed.  Nancy On Friday, February 15, 2019, 3:28:29 PM CST, sally v Houston <svhous@gmail.com> wrote: The pedigree chart for the child of that mother will only have that mother in it. By definition it only includes direct line, not other spouses of collateral branches. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM Nancy W. <wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: >  I found how to eliminate the birth and death dates on the family group > sheet. > > I still need to know how to designate which wife to use for the pedigree > chart. > Nancy > > >    On Friday, February 15, 2019, 11:42:06 AM CST, Nancy W. < > wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > I want to send family information to a newly found cousinwho knows nothing > about the family and doesn’t seem interested in becoming agenealogist. > A pedigree chart with simple family group sheets to expound on families > would bethe clearest way to send the information. (Comments welcome) > >  The family group sheet is printing the birth and death datesafter every > spouse’s name.  I have resetthe report to the defaults but I am still > getting these dates.  It clutters the report and is unnecessary.  I don’t > see a way to remove this informationand I don’t remember it printing like > that in the past. > >  How can I remove the excess information? >  Pedigree charts – how can I specify which wife?  Her father had 4 wives; > I want the 3rdone, the only one with whom he had children. > Nancy > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/15/2019 03:05:57
    1. [TMG] Re: BDM Certificates
    2. ALAN HALE
    3. Hi I also use a Custom Flag as well Alan -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 15/2/19, Constance Chappell Horne <constancehorne@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: [TMG] Re: BDM Certificates To: "The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List" <tmg@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, 15 February, 2019, 20:55 I would suggest a custom flag instead. It would be easier to add/remove that designation. Constance On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:46 PM Tim Hill <timandpolly@gmail.com> wrote: > I have an idea that I would like some feedback on. > > In my tree I have a lot of people and for most of them, I don't actually > have their birth, death or marriage certificates. Instead, I have other > documents with varying degrees of surety. > > For the people that I am closest to, I would like to get the certificates > when I get the time and money to do so, but in the meantime I want a method > in TMG to identify which certificates I have and which I don't have. > > To do this, I was thinking of creating three new tag types. These would be > direct copies of my standard Birth, Death and Marriage tags, but with the > suffix of '-C' so 'Birth'-C'. They would function identically to their > corresponding tag, but would indicate that I had the certificate for this > event. > > Then I could run reports on my project that showed me which certificates I > still had outstanding for my ancestors. I could also see at a glance on my > TMG person screen if I had the certificates for that person by looking for > the '-C' suffice on the BDM tags. > > All my certificates are stored in the same place, so it shouldn't be an > insurmountable job to change the tag types... > ... But before I go ahead I would be interested in hearing if people could > point out the flaw in my plan or suggest a better way. > > Thanks, > > Tim from Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/15/2019 02:43:31
    1. [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. sally v Houston
    3. The pedigree chart for the child of that mother will only have that mother in it. By definition it only includes direct line, not other spouses of collateral branches. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM Nancy W. <wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I found how to eliminate the birth and death dates on the family group > sheet. > > I still need to know how to designate which wife to use for the pedigree > chart. > Nancy > > > On Friday, February 15, 2019, 11:42:06 AM CST, Nancy W. < > wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > I want to send family information to a newly found cousinwho knows nothing > about the family and doesn’t seem interested in becoming agenealogist. > A pedigree chart with simple family group sheets to expound on families > would bethe clearest way to send the information. (Comments welcome) > > The family group sheet is printing the birth and death datesafter every > spouse’s name. I have resetthe report to the defaults but I am still > getting these dates. It clutters the report and is unnecessary. I don’t > see a way to remove this informationand I don’t remember it printing like > that in the past. > > How can I remove the excess information? > Pedigree charts – how can I specify which wife? Her father had 4 wives; > I want the 3rdone, the only one with whom he had children. > Nancy > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    02/15/2019 02:27:50
    1. [TMG] Re: BDM Certificates
    2. This would be an excellent situation to use roles. For example, you could add a role of "certificate" or "need certificate" to each of the existing tags using the same sentence as the principal role. You can then run a list of people with a birth (or marriage or death) tag where role equals whichever variation you desire. There would be no need to copy tags and you can easily adjust the role once you obtain the certificate. Alternatively, you could set up new flags for death-cert (? = default; Y = have the cert; N = need the cert) and run reports or create focus groups based on the flags. A similar flag could be used for the marriage and death certs. Nancy > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hill <timandpolly@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:45 PM > To: TMG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TMG] BDM Certificates > > For the people that I am closest to, I would like to get the certificates when I > get the time and money to do so, but in the meantime I want a method in > TMG to identify which certificates I have and which I don't have. > > To do this, I was thinking of creating three new tag types. These would be > direct copies of my standard Birth, Death and Marriage tags, but with the > suffix of '-C' so 'Birth'-C'. They would function identically to their > corresponding tag, but would indicate that I had the certificate for this > event. > > Then I could run reports on my project that showed me which certificates I > still had outstanding for my ancestors. I could also see at a glance on my > TMG person screen if I had the certificates for that person by looking for the > '-C' suffice on the BDM tags. > > All my certificates are stored in the same place, so it shouldn't be an > insurmountable job to change the tag types... > ... But before I go ahead I would be interested in hearing if people could > point out the flaw in my plan or suggest a better way. > > Thanks, > > Tim from Melbourne

    02/15/2019 02:18:20
    1. [TMG] Re: BDM Certificates
    2. Constance Chappell Horne
    3. I would suggest a custom flag instead. It would be easier to add/remove that designation. Constance On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:46 PM Tim Hill <timandpolly@gmail.com> wrote: > I have an idea that I would like some feedback on. > > In my tree I have a lot of people and for most of them, I don't actually > have their birth, death or marriage certificates. Instead, I have other > documents with varying degrees of surety. > > For the people that I am closest to, I would like to get the certificates > when I get the time and money to do so, but in the meantime I want a method > in TMG to identify which certificates I have and which I don't have. > > To do this, I was thinking of creating three new tag types. These would be > direct copies of my standard Birth, Death and Marriage tags, but with the > suffix of '-C' so 'Birth'-C'. They would function identically to their > corresponding tag, but would indicate that I had the certificate for this > event. > > Then I could run reports on my project that showed me which certificates I > still had outstanding for my ancestors. I could also see at a glance on my > TMG person screen if I had the certificates for that person by looking for > the '-C' suffice on the BDM tags. > > All my certificates are stored in the same place, so it shouldn't be an > insurmountable job to change the tag types... > ... But before I go ahead I would be interested in hearing if people could > point out the flaw in my plan or suggest a better way. > > Thanks, > > Tim from Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    02/15/2019 01:55:58
    1. [TMG] BDM Certificates
    2. Tim Hill
    3. I have an idea that I would like some feedback on. In my tree I have a lot of people and for most of them, I don't actually have their birth, death or marriage certificates. Instead, I have other documents with varying degrees of surety. For the people that I am closest to, I would like to get the certificates when I get the time and money to do so, but in the meantime I want a method in TMG to identify which certificates I have and which I don't have. To do this, I was thinking of creating three new tag types. These would be direct copies of my standard Birth, Death and Marriage tags, but with the suffix of '-C' so 'Birth'-C'. They would function identically to their corresponding tag, but would indicate that I had the certificate for this event. Then I could run reports on my project that showed me which certificates I still had outstanding for my ancestors. I could also see at a glance on my TMG person screen if I had the certificates for that person by looking for the '-C' suffice on the BDM tags. All my certificates are stored in the same place, so it shouldn't be an insurmountable job to change the tag types... ... But before I go ahead I would be interested in hearing if people could point out the flaw in my plan or suggest a better way. Thanks, Tim from Melbourne

    02/15/2019 01:45:06
    1. [TMG] Re: Error message trying to make a new project
    2. Lee Hoffman
    3. At 2/15/2019 14:32, John Cardinal wrote >Yes, but why, i.e., what is the motivation to create a project that has a >subset of the people in the current project? John, Erik has a VERY karge project (about 875 thousand persons) and want to delete something like 121 thousand persons. The only way is to delete them individually (obviously unacceptable) or use the Secondary Output of a List of People report to create a new project with the remaining 753 thousand persons. He has apparently run into the 2GB file size limit which prompted him to want to delete these 121 thousand. He has run the maintenance routines including Optimize. But he is still having problems creating the new project and I suspect is still running into the 2GB limit somehow. I have suggested individidually deleting 100 to 200 people at a time and Optimizing until the size of the project is reduced enough to allow the List of People report method to work. I don't know of another way to delete large numbers of people from a project except perhaps editing each database and I don't want to get into that even knowing what I do about the file structure. From converstaion years ago, I recall Bob saying that global delete were just too fraught with danger. I expect you would agree. Still I wish there were a way that a user could generate a text ID# file of small (100 - 200?) groups that could be used as input to delete (mark) those persons. Then the user could review the project and "approve" the deletion by running Optimize. The problem would be that the persons to be deleted could not be connected/related to anyone else in the project. Any such relationships/connections would have to be deleted first. Lee

    02/15/2019 01:32:42
    1. [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. Terry Reigel
    3. On 2/15/2019 12:41 PM, Nancy W. wrote: > I want to send family information to a newly found cousinwho knows nothing about the family and doesn’t seem interested in becoming agenealogist. > A pedigree chart with simple family group sheets to expound on families would bethe clearest way to send the information. (Comments welcome) Nancy, In my view family group sheets and pedigrees are boring to tears. I'd never send them to someone who isn't an old-school genealogist. I only send narratives. But maybe that's just me. >  Pedigree charts – how can I specify which wife?  Her father had 4 wives; I want the 3rdone, the only one with whom he had children. You can't. Each of them is his "family." Just delete the ones you don't want to send. But then you lose the fact that he had three wives, which I think is important. That's why I use narratives. :-) Terry Reigel

    02/15/2019 01:05:37
    1. [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. Dennis Lee Bieber
    3. At 2/15/2019 7:46 PM, Nancy W. wrote: > I found how to eliminate the birth and death dates on the family group >sheet.  > Tell, Tell! >I still need to know how to designate which wife to use for the pedigree >chart. Well -- which marriage is listed as primary?

    02/15/2019 12:53:25
    1. [TMG] Re: Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. Nancy W.
    3. I found how to eliminate the birth and death dates on the family group sheet.  I still need to know how to designate which wife to use for the pedigree chart. Nancy On Friday, February 15, 2019, 11:42:06 AM CST, Nancy W. <wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: I want to send family information to a newly found cousinwho knows nothing about the family and doesn’t seem interested in becoming agenealogist.  A pedigree chart with simple family group sheets to expound on families would bethe clearest way to send the information. (Comments welcome)  The family group sheet is printing the birth and death datesafter every spouse’s name.  I have resetthe report to the defaults but I am still getting these dates.  It clutters the report and is unnecessary.  I don’t see a way to remove this informationand I don’t remember it printing like that in the past.  How can I remove the excess information?  Pedigree charts – how can I specify which wife?  Her father had 4 wives; I want the 3rdone, the only one with whom he had children. Nancy _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/tmg@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/15/2019 12:46:00
    1. [TMG] Re: Error message trying to make a new project
    2. John Cardinal
    3. Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Jumping in, hopefully without offending anyone... > > The OP's end target is to delete a lot of individuals from the > database. But since there is no delete option for any filtered set, > the planned procedure is to create a new project of those to be > saved, verify it is complete, then delete the original project and > rename the new project with the original name. Dennis, Yes, but why, i.e., what is the motivation to create a project that has a subset of the people in the current project? > I'm tempted to suggest creating a complete back-up (including > exhibits) and entrusting the data to some other user of TMG -- just > to see if that person has the same error after restoring the > back-up and running the "new project" creation which is failing > here. That would be helpful in that it would determine if the problem is unique to Eric's PC/TMG or if it happens on other PCs/other TMG installations. John

    02/15/2019 12:32:55
    1. [TMG] Re: Error message trying to make a new project
    2. Dennis Lee Bieber
    3. At 2/15/2019 11:34 AM, John Cardinal wrote: >Why are you trying to export these people? Are you trying to create a >smaller project that has less incidental people in it, or ? > Jumping in, hopefully without offending anyone... The OP's end target is to delete a lot of individuals from the database. But since there is no delete option for any filtered set, the planned procedure is to create a new project of those to be saved, verify it is complete, then delete the original project and rename the new project with the original name. I'm tempted to suggest creating a complete back-up (including exhibits) and entrusting the data to some other user of TMG -- just to see if that person has the same error after restoring the back-up and running the "new project" creation which is failing here.

    02/15/2019 11:43:12
    1. [TMG] Reports - Pedigree and FGS
    2. Nancy W.
    3. I want to send family information to a newly found cousinwho knows nothing about the family and doesn’t seem interested in becoming agenealogist.  A pedigree chart with simple family group sheets to expound on families would bethe clearest way to send the information. (Comments welcome)  The family group sheet is printing the birth and death datesafter every spouse’s name.  I have resetthe report to the defaults but I am still getting these dates.  It clutters the report and is unnecessary.  I don’t see a way to remove this informationand I don’t remember it printing like that in the past.  How can I remove the excess information?  Pedigree charts – how can I specify which wife?  Her father had 4 wives; I want the 3rdone, the only one with whom he had children. Nancy

    02/15/2019 10:41:36
    1. [TMG] Re: Error message trying to make a new project
    2. John Cardinal
    3. Erik, I asked about the number of datasets because I did some googling and saw issues reported by other users where the number of datasets in the project seemed to be a factor. It's possible your project is so large that some internal limit is being reached and if so, there's no way around it. Without having access to the code, it's hard to know why the LoP would have a limit like that, but the "create a new project" option (forget the exact name) is probably complicated because TMG has to figure out what subset of other records (the events, citations, sources, places, etc., referenced by the selected people) must be included in the new project. Unfortunately, I don't have any good suggestions for you. You could try a GEDCOM export/import, but there are several issues with that: 1 - TMG's GEDCOM export is slow, and with a large export like yours, it will take a long time. 2 - TMG's GEDCOM import is even slower. 3 - But worse, you'll lose data during the export/import cycle. TMG will export witnesses, but I don't think it imports them. You sentence templates and source templates will be lost, etc., etc. Why are you trying to export these people? Are you trying to create a smaller project that has less incidental people in it, or ? John

    02/15/2019 09:34:17
    1. [TMG] Re: Storing database in the cloud
    2. Richard Damon
    3. On 2/15/19 6:36 AM, Alexander Payne wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to store the TMG database on OneDrive so it can be used by either of my two different computers. > Or on a NAS unit. > > Alexander Do NOT put the TMG database (or at least the copy you are using) in the OneDrive directory tree, or you will run into possible corruption issues. The issue comes if OneDrive (or whatever cloud sync utility) sees that TMG changed a file, and then opens it up to sync to the cloud, and then TMG trys to change it again. The OS will tell TMG the file is busy at the moment, but TMG isn't expecting it, and doesn't behave right. I believe a NAS unit should work, at least as long as the NAS file system supports the needed file locking primitives, which I thought were fairly common. This method will slow down access to the database. -- Richard Damon

    02/15/2019 04:52:35