I have created "place styles" which I use these circumstances. These have "Output Templates" that include just those parts of the address I want to appear in my reports. One style leaves out the country, another, leaves out the country and County (I am in the UK) another leaves out the Country County, and City. Bobh -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Holcombe via Sent: 18 June 2015 23:31 To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Repeating city detail When a person lives in the same city his whole life and has many events recorded, how can we suppress the county and state names after the initial full detail at the birth? If I create a separate city of say, "Washington" then I could end up with many people who married, had kids and then died in "Washington" but in fact lived in different states? Can I just suppress the county and state? The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As much as we know that we do not want to change from TMG, we believe that eventually it will either be in our best interest or we may feel forced to change to another genealogy software.  What are others doing?  What have they changed to and are you happy with the change?   Rolene Kiesling, Groveland, CA

There is a TMG-refugees mail list for this topic. It hasn't been very active recently, but you can search the archives and find many helpful messages. There is not a one size fits all for this. Each user has their own needs. Staying with TMG at this time works for some, for others moving to Roots Magic or Legacy or some other program is the choice. Other, like me have chosen a combination of staying with TMG and also moving to another program. Read the messages on that mail list. You should find them very helpful. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rolene via Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:28 PM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] TMG Alternative As much as we know that we do not want to change from TMG, we believe that eventually it will either be in our best interest or we may feel forced to change to another genealogy software. What are others doing? What have they changed to and are you happy with the change? Rolene Kiesling, Groveland, CA The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 06:31 PM 6/18/2015, James Holcombe via wrote: >When a person lives in the same city his whole life and has many events >recorded, how can we suppress the county and state names after the initial >full detail at the birth? If I create a separate city of say, "Washington" >then I could end up with many people who married, had kids and then died in >"Washington" but in fact lived in different states? > >Can I just suppress the county and state? Sounds like something for a custom Place Style... You'd likely still have to add all the fields in the detail records, but by selecting the custom Place Style the narrative reports will only show the fields identified in the style template. -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

At 6/18/2015 18:31, you wrote: >When a person lives in the same city his whole life and has many events >recorded, how can we suppress the county and state names after the initial >full detail at the birth? If I create a separate city of say, "Washington" >then I could end up with many people who married, had kids and then died in >"Washington" but in fact lived in different states? > >Can I just suppress the county and state? You can use the Exclusion Marker ("-" in the first position of a field) to suppress that field. Look this up in the TMG Help for more information. When I have a city-county-state, I usually Exclude the County meaning only the City and State print. You could do similarly by Excluding the County, State and Country (assuming you have Country entered). But you need to look at each Tag and the kind of report to see the order in which Tags print when. Then, check that Exclusion Marks are set for all Tags for each person as you desire as there is no "automatic" way to select to print everything and then just the City (or whatever combination you want). Lee

When a person lives in the same city his whole life and has many events recorded, how can we suppress the county and state names after the initial full detail at the birth? If I create a separate city of say, "Washington" then I could end up with many people who married, had kids and then died in "Washington" but in fact lived in different states? Can I just suppress the county and state?

This is where I also rely on Sureties.  We have all of the tools to manage our data in the way that best suits our individual "wiring".  So indebted to Bob and the crew that developed this software. JoAnn This sounds reasonable to me. Especially if your sources only date from the 1950s. I have a few of those kind of Sources and while most have been found to be 100% accurate, I have only included then to remind me where I got the information (and wasn't something I made up). Other than that, I also have an added Source that simply says this data currently has no solid contemporary evidence supporting it -- so beware. Once I do find contemporary (or solid secondary) evidence, I cite that and delete the earlier two Source (especially the warning citation).

I should've been more clear in my earlier post on how to do this. You CAN make a shortcut to the index.htm file instead of to the "site" which is far quicker. Initially I couldn't do this, but in another attempt, it worked. Regards, Toby

I figured out the following method which should work for other files as well. I'm posting it here in case someone might find it helpful: 1. Download and install Android File Transfer (free) from Google Play onto your Mac. 2. Connect android phone via usb cable to Mac. AFT must "see" your phone. You may have to connect a time or two. On my Mac, it shows up briefly as a CD. 3. Using Finder, you should see under Devices listed as Android File Transfer. 4. If you are installing to a secondary storage device (worth buying), you must highlight Card in order to see what's on your device. Go to Android/Data. 5. Drag your entire SS folder into an empty space under Data. It'll take a little while because of the usb transfer. 6. On your android phone, download and install ES File Explorer (free) from Google Play. 7. Open ES File Explorer. Click on extSdCard/Android/Data/:Your SS Folder's name" under which you will find a "site" folder. LongPress on the site folder, tap More brings up a menu. Then, tap Add to Desktop. This will place your shortcut in the first empty space on one of your Home Screen pages. It can be moved there, if you wish it elsewhere. Whereas there may be a way to rename the "site" folder to something more useful, my android os seems to prevent this unless ES File Explorer is "rooted" which is also impossible with my version of the os. Oh, well. It might be quicker if you have a card reading device, to employ that to move the SS folder directly from your Mac to the ssd card. However, our card reader has disappeared. Regards, Toby

Thanks, Lee. I do have the strings.dbf and fpt in the TMG folder as well. Thanks. Mike More mikemore@rogers.com -----Original Message----- From: Lee Hoffman/KY [mailto:azchief@bellsouth.net] Sent: 18-Jun-15 12:30 PM To: Mike More; tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] strings9_5_0.dbf At 6/18/2015 11:25, you wrote: >I just looked ion my TMG9 Export folder and found a series of files >called strings9_5_0.dbf and strings9_5_0.fpt, etc. (9_1_0, 9_2_0, >9_4_0). The fpt files are only 1k in size but the dbfs are 50M. What >are these and do I need to keep them? They all date back to last year. Thanks. The Strings DBF & FPT files are the files are used for the various Languages in which TMG may be used. These are normally stored in the ProgramData => TMG folder. I don;t know why those files (particularly the "9_0_5" part of the name) might be in the Export folder unless it is an export, but exports from the Language window usually are for a specific landuage. You can delete it if you like although you may want to move the files to some other "non-TMG" location as a safety measure for a while. Lee

At 6/18/2015 11:25, you wrote: >I just looked ion my TMG9 Export folder and found a series of files called >strings9_5_0.dbf and strings9_5_0.fpt, etc. (9_1_0, 9_2_0, 9_4_0). The fpt >files are only 1k in size but the dbfs are 50M. What are these and do I need >to keep them? They all date back to last year. Thanks. The Strings DBF & FPT files are the files are used for the various Languages in which TMG may be used. These are normally stored in the ProgramData => TMG folder. I don;t know why those files (particularly the "9_0_5" part of the name) might be in the Export folder unless it is an export, but exports from the Language window usually are for a specific landuage. You can delete it if you like although you may want to move the files to some other "non-TMG" location as a safety measure for a while. Lee

I just looked ion my TMG9 Export folder and found a series of files called strings9_5_0.dbf and strings9_5_0.fpt, etc. (9_1_0, 9_2_0, 9_4_0). The fpt files are only 1k in size but the dbfs are 50M. What are these and do I need to keep them? They all date back to last year. Thanks. Mike More mikemore@rogers.com

SpiderOak is an alternative to DropBox and other cloud storage services. Apparently it's offering 2GB free storage as an introductory offer. Here is a link to Dick Eastman's laudatory review of the product. Thought this might be of interest to many here considering questions and posts about DropBox and similar services here. Sam Hope the link works: http://blog.eogn.com/2015/06/17/how-to-safely-and-securely-store-your-private-data-online-with-spideroak/

Toby, You emailed "to me" and not the group, so I'm replying here (TMG/Rootsweb), for benefit all readers. You indicated you signed up to the Second Site support group on google groups, that's great! That's the official online support location for Second Site users. Once you're there, you can use the "search" the group function, which I did using "android" as a keyword, and I saw a few discussions related to your question regarding viewing a Second Site website locally (not on the internet) on the phone. You also asked about "detailed instructions" and sorry, I have none, however, some time ago, following a review of the SS google group messages and some trial and error, I succeeded. One of the messages I found helpful came from Jim Byram, listing steps: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/ss-l/android/ss-l/sEqd _DM5vCk/5u3B9DL0RswJ. I also posted that I was unable to use the web browser to locate the "index.htm" (or similar) file to open the site, but instead used a file utility app and once I found the file and opened it, I was able to save a shortcut or favorite to it for future use. Barbara posted a method to place it as a direct launch item on the phone, so that sounds terrific too. Also, I don't use Apple interfaces, Parallels, etc, so I have no suggestions there. Tom -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Toby Turner via Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:45 AM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] Transfer SS from Mac to Android Phone Thanks, Dennis, Michael and Tom. I've been afraid to update to Lollipop 5 (I'm running 4.4) until all the dust settles about battery drain, etc. I'm going to try Tom's methodology to see if that works for me. Thanks again, Toby The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is also possible on Android phones (mine at least, pre-Lollipop vintage) to create an icon on the home screen that will open up your file directly without having to go through a bookmark or history. In FF, first access the file. Then long-hold the URL box and choose "Add to home screen". In Chrome, instead choose the drop down menu (the three dots), then "Add to home screen". Barbara >If I look at the folder structure within, say Android File Transfer, I'll see the index.htm file, but I cannot seem to get it to display on the phone screen where I can click on it. Toby On 6/16/2015 11:32 PM, Tom Momeyer via wrote: > Once the site is found in Firefox, I access it through > a bookmark or history rather than navigation within the phone data storage > - works for me. > > Tom > > -- Barbara Levergood levergood@att.net (=^·^=)~

Jan, Thanks for reminding me. When backing up I didn't notice that it was backing up v8 into v9. Or is that correct? Didn't know you had to change the paths. Things used to be so much simliar or maybe age is catching up with me (g)! Pauline ---- Janis Rodriguez via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Pauline, make sure you have a full back up. I remember when I installed v9 it still pointed to many TMG v8 folders for a while til I read something which warned about this. I had to copy the files into the v9 folders. I suggest you rename the folder and make sure everything works fine before you eliminate the folders... > > Jan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:36 PM, John Cardinal via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Pauline, > > > > For any Windows program that won't uninstall, you can try this trick: > > install the program in the same folder over where it is now, then uninstall > > it. The install will supply the info that uninstaller needs to do the job. > > > > When you uninstall TMG, it does not remove certain data folders that are not > > created by the installer but instead are created when you start TMG for the > > first time after the initial install. If you think it is necessary to remove > > those folders, you can see the instructions here: > > > > http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?/topic/14634-re-installing-tm > > g8/ > > > > Those instructions are for TMG v8, but they should be accurate for TMG v9, > > too. > > > > John > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > . > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 6/16/2015 15:35, you wrote: >In short, I've elected not to enter, person by person, all the people in the >more recently discovered lineage in a parallel work-around line, despite the >interesting suggestions for ways to do that, because it would be a lot of >very tedious work devoted to info I don't really believe is worth that much >trouble. If someday I do see that the competing lineage has been proven >correct after all, I'll just sigh, delete the wrong people, and enter the >new ones. This sounds reasonable to me. Especially if your sources only date from the 1950s. I have a few of those kind of Sources and while most have been found to be 100% accurate, I have only included then to remind me where I got the information (and wasn't something I made up). Other than that, I also have an added Source that simply says this data currently has no solid contemporary evidence supporting it -- so beware. Once I do find contemporary (or solid secondary) evidence, I cite that and delete the earlier two Source (especially the warning citation). All this assumes that I have entered the data in the first place. IF the conflicting data seems to have something better than 50% chance at reliability, I look at how much work is to be done for data entry. If it is not much, I usually enter it. If there is a lot of work, I usually just summarize it using the Source citations I describe above. Either way, I prefer all data entered no matter how accurate. This way (especially after it is disproved), I know I have seen it before and don't have to re-invent the wheel. This come into play often when I show/share my data with someone and they say that it doesn't agree with something they have and I can quickly produce the reason why they data is incorrect. Lee

Thanks, Dennis, Michael and Tom. I've been afraid to update to Lollipop 5 (I'm running 4.4) until all the dust settles about battery drain, etc. I'm going to try Tom's methodology to see if that works for me. Thanks again, Toby

FYI, I've had SS website output on a Galaxy Note 2 phone using Android operating system for some time now. I replied to one or more inquiries on the SS google group list with details. Similar to Michael's post below, I found that it worked for me by copying the SS output files/folders that I made for CD output to a secondary storage card on the phone. I found through trial and error that the default built-in Android OS browser did not work (as far as I experimented / tried) and found that the Firefox app for the phone did work. Once the site is found in Firefox, I access it through a bookmark or history rather than navigation within the phone data storage - works for me. Also, unlike Michael, I have / had no issue using Android 4 versions, where Michael notes below otherwise. Tom -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael J. Hannah via Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:42 PM To: TMG-L submission address Subject: Re: [TMG] Transfer SS from Mac to Android Phone Dennis Lee Bieber observed: > It doesn't help that, around the time frame of Android 4.x, the core > system load changed to put the internal memory on /mnt/sdcard and any > external SD card in a slot is now at /mnt/ext_sdcard (or a variation > thereof) Yes, but after a large "hue and cry" from Android users, Google just recently updated the Android operating system for the new version 5, code named Lollipop, and made the external SD card accessible again. I now can use the new version of ES File Explorer to fully access the external SD card on my Android phone. The external card root is now "/storage/extSdCard". I made a directory for my SS files named: /storage/extSdCard/Android/data/Genealogy The new version of FireFox reads these SS files from the external card without any difficulty, and I have a bookmark to the index main file. So we Android users are back in business with SS on external SD cards. Michael

At 01:40 PM 6/16/2015, John Cardinal via wrote: >I think Android devices suffer from there being multiple manufacturers and >multiple versions of Android, so what works for one person may not work for >another. Given the device mentioned in the solution is either the same as >yours, or close, the tip above may work. It should show a list of files, and >from there, you can navigate to the folder that holds your SS site files. >That's a guess based on the quoted section above and some other comments I >found via a Google search. It doesn't help that, around the time frame of Android 4.x, the core system load changed to put the internal memory on /mnt/sdcard and any external SD card in a slot is now at /mnt/ext_sdcard (or a variation thereof) Any programs that had an option to store data on an sdcard probably looked for /mnt/sdcard (whch would have been the plug-in card in Android <4.x) and... stores the data in main memory thinking it is external memory (I have a game on my Nook HD+ that downloaded 2GB of data -- and had a button for "save to SD card"... No luck, just filled internal memory (fortunately, that device started life with a 32GB internal memory). >John > >The TMG archive is found here: >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/