Ann, I have skimmed the other responses, and as far as I can tell, no one else has mentioned the most important point: BMP is not a valid image format for use on web pages created by Second Site. When Second Site's image support was implemented, the valid web page image types were JPG, PNG, and GIF. ***So, if you intend to use Second Site, you should not use BMP exhibits.*** HTML5 supports some other image types, notably SVG, but as far as I can tell, BMP is not one of them. A particular browser may or may not support BMP, but that's irrelevant. The HTML5 standard is not explicit about the image types, but if I recall correctly, previous versions (HTML4) were more precise. Whether BMP is valid or not, BMP is not a good choice for use on a web page. For most pictures, i.e., digital (or scanned) photographs, you should use JPG. As others have mentioned, the JPG version of a BMP file will be much smaller than the BMP file. JPG will lose some detail during compression, but the difference is usually not visible to the eye if you use one of the lesser compression settings. If you are concerned about losing detail, perhaps with the image of a scanned document, you can use PNG. The "full color" PNG format will compress the image but will not lose any detail. There are also versions of PNG that restrict the color palette. Those versions will lose some detail, but in a different way than with JPG, and the difference makes color-palette-compressed PNG images more suitable than JPG for scanned documents. PNG images support transparency, i.e., some pixels in the image will be invisible and allow the background to show through. That's typically not a requirement for exhibit images. I only mention it because standard JPG does not support transparency. GIF is similar to a PNG image that is limited to 256 different colors. I'd stick with either PNG or JPG, so I won't provide any other comments about GIF. There are many ways to mass-convert images from one format to another. Other people have mentioned them, so I'll skip that topic. John

Lee- OOPS - sorry I forgot to copy you on my reply to Ann. Obviously we both like IrfanView, and I have used Elements many times in the past. I won't repeat everything I said to Ann here since you have probably already read what I sent to her, but would like to extend my thanks and compliments on your continued participation in the TMG world. My family plans to continue using TMG for at least another decade or so because it still does everything it always has, and with todays' ease of setting up a virtual machine within whatever is the current OS, I should be able to run Win 7, 8.1, 10 for as long as I live, even if M-soft does something that eventually breaks TMG in a newer OS. Perhaps the next generation will use something different, but for now I am quite pleased with what we have and our focus is not on changing, but learning how to use TMG more proficiently. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lee Hoffman/KY via Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 10:08 AM To: TMG List Subject: Re: [TMG] TMG and Second Site - bmp versus jpg At 7/1/2015 01:37, you wrote: >Bruce, what program do you use to create high quality jpg images? I'm >scanning images at the moment so they're just being produced with the >Canon software. I don't know what Bruce uses, but most image editing software will do a good job. Most of the time, I use Irfanview -- it is free and does most of the things I need to do. On the rare occasion that IrfanView isn't satisfactory, I use Adobe's PhotoShop Elements. It is a reasonably priced program a little less powerful than the full PhotoShop program which is quite pricey -- something I'd like to have, but can't justify the need for it. Lee The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Like Lee, I find Irfanview extremely useful. Plus you can tell it to make jpg versions of an entire folder of bmp files. (Photoshop can also do this, and presumably many other kinds of software, but Irfanview is free and very highly regarded.) On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Lee Hoffman/KY via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > At 7/1/2015 01:37, you wrote: > >Bruce, what program do you use to create high quality jpg images? I'm > >scanning images at the moment so they're just being produced with the > Canon > >software. > > I don't know what Bruce uses, but most image editing software will do > a good job. Most of the time, I use Irfanview -- it is free and does > most of the things I need to do. On the rare occasion that IrfanView > isn't satisfactory, I use Adobe's PhotoShop Elements. It is a > reasonably priced program a little less powerful than the full > PhotoShop program which is quite pricey -- something I'd like to > have, but can't justify the need for it. > > Lee > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

At 7/1/2015 01:37, you wrote: >Bruce, what program do you use to create high quality jpg images? I'm >scanning images at the moment so they're just being produced with the Canon >software. I don't know what Bruce uses, but most image editing software will do a good job. Most of the time, I use Irfanview -- it is free and does most of the things I need to do. On the rare occasion that IrfanView isn't satisfactory, I use Adobe's PhotoShop Elements. It is a reasonably priced program a little less powerful than the full PhotoShop program which is quite pricey -- something I'd like to have, but can't justify the need for it. Lee

>My plan is just to use Second Site to create a family journal on dvd (not in the cloud) and >provide to family members.) With the low price and much higher capacity of flash drives you may find it easier to buy a few small ones and store your copies on them instead of trying to segment your data to make multiple dvds. Dick

At 6/30/2015 23:56, you wrote: >Is there any downside to using bmps as TMG exhibits? (I have over 16,000 >exhibits at the moment and growing fast) The biggest downside is the size of the file. BMP files tend to be rather large in size. This can make slow the loading of a web page. >I understand that many TMG users create different formats in different >folders but I'm trying to avoid, or at least minimise, multiple formats for >the same exhibits. Most users keeping multiple formats keep the original file in a :master" folder. Then as a file is worked on to make a "use" file (for whatever purpose, the edited file is then stored in the normal TMG Exhibits folder (or comparable for some other program). I tend to keep all my original image files in one folder (with some sub-folders). Then, I copy the files to TMG (or wherever) in the edited and other (if desired ) format. >However my recollection is that John Cardinal has >suggested using jpgs for Second Site. Is this essential and what problems >might I have if I try to use bmps? Should I just scan as jpgs to start with >and forget the bmps? BMP (and other formats such as TIF) are what is called "lossless" formats. That is, repeated editing does not reduce the file resolution. JPG, GIF (and other) formats are "lossy" formats which tend to lose file resolution as they are edited. Most concerned users try to maintain their "master" files in a "lossless" format (again fairly large files) and work files in smaller "lossy" formats. As noted earlier, the larger image files in web pages tend to make loading a web page slower. For users with high speed broadband Internet connections, this is not usually that big a deal (depending on the number of images on the page maybe 30 seconds or more). But for someone on a dial-up connection (there are still some) or a smartphone (with limited data minutes), it can mean extra bucks for them. Now, that being said, if the intent is to allow the web page reader to download the image(s) with the intent of expanding the image to say 8x10, a small JPG or GIF file is not likely to be satisfactory as the expanded image will probably be somewhat blotchy looking at best. >To put this into context the Second Site output I am working towards will be >for around 6,000 people (all descendants of 1 couple) and the exhibits will >probably be around the same number. With that many exhibits, the web site will be fairly large in size and again slow to download. Also, most will not be interested in large high resolution images (the few that are can easily e-mail and ask for the few they wish -- assuming you wish to accommodate them). Lee Hoffman/KY

Ann - It is all a numbers game. Find a bitmap or TIFF file in your collection and then open it and resave as a jpg. You can save it in the same location and it will not overwrite the original. Now look at the file details side by side in Windows explorer ( you have to be in "details" view). You will probably find the jpg file is about 1/10th the size of the original. If you are looking at this smaller file on the internet (such as may happen in SS) the image will look about the same, until you try to blow it up a lot to see something small - then it will turn blocky (Pixelate). However, the jpg will load faster and obviously take up less space on systems with small storage areas. If someone has a slow DSL or satellite internet connection it may seem to take forever to load uncompressed images. Similarly, if someone has a metered connection (say, on their smartphone account) they will save on download time and charges with jpg files. I find that if I use a program that allows you to create "high quality" jpg images, you will get most of the space savings, with minimal quality loss. The big gotcha comes if you or someone else is going to make changes to the image. Whenever you process changes and resave a jpg image, you will lose quality - just like happened when copying an old VHS tape. The copies looked worse. Same with jpg's. If you save everything as a jpg, always be sure to convert it to a BMP or TIFF before you make the changes, do what needs to be done, and then resave as a jpg to keep the best quality. Bruce Lightfoot -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Carson via Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:56 PM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] TMG and Second Site - bmp versus jpg Hello all I'm scanning all the certificates and documents I obtained in the UK recently on a research trip and am wondering (again, still .) about the pros and cons of bmp versus jpg for TMG and Second Site. All my exhibits are external. Is there any downside to using bmps as TMG exhibits? (I have over 16,000 exhibits at the moment and growing fast) I understand that many TMG users create different formats in different folders but I'm trying to avoid, or at least minimise, multiple formats for the same exhibits. However my recollection is that John Cardinal has suggested using jpgs for Second Site. Is this essential and what problems might I have if I try to use bmps? Should I just scan as jpgs to start with and forget the bmps? To put this into context the Second Site output I am working towards will be for around 6,000 people (all descendants of 1 couple) and the exhibits will probably be around the same number. Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated Ann The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have no idea what was wrong, but after uninstalling TMG again, then running CC Cleaner and making sure all traces of TMG were removed from the laptop. Reinstalled again. This time opened the Sample first, all was ok and could access the exhibit log and images. Then restored my fresh backup, using my preferences - again I had the same issue with accessing the exhibit log and any images. This then was the same with the sample project, - so had a feeling was something to do with my preferences settings. Repeated the above process of uninstall and reinstall. Again sample project worked well. Did restore but this time selected not to install my existing preferences. This time when restore was finished I could access the exhibits and exhibit log without issues. Just meant I then had to go into the preferences and set as I normally have on desktop. There was no change to the paths of anything and at no time have I had any error messages. For some reason even after resetting the preferences all is working well. Have exited and opened again, double clicked on images etc and all is working as it should. I have no explanation for what the issue really was, but it is now fixed - just hope this does not occur each time I need to restore from my desktop backup as I do this on a very regular basis. Thanks to any that have sent through replies before I have had time to post this to the list. Ailsa Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: ailsacorlett@gmail.com

Hi Hoping this is a simple solution that I have over looked. I needed to reformat my laptop. So have installed Win 8.1 Pro (same as my desktop computer) and then installed TMG V9.05 as usual, did restore from my most current backup. All is well except for opening the Exhibit Log or accessing any of the photos stored in the exhibit folder. So cannot add a new photo or edit an existing one. Eg. When going into an existing Tag for a person, and hitting on the Exhibit Log icon on the top right hand, TMG freezes and the only way out is to go to Task Manager and close TMG that way. Same occurs if double clicking on an existing photo sitting in the Image window. Have uninstalled and reinstalled TMG a number of times. Run all the maintenance files. (and rebooted not just restart each time) The PDF printer is installed, and if I run a report to view, eg. Individual narrative - it includes the exhibits for that person no problems. Paths are set correctly in all areas under preferences. Exhibits are external, but housed in the TMG Folder called exhibits - all exhibits are showing in there as well and I can double click on any one of them to open it up outside of TMG. Any ideas on how to overcome this issue would be appreciated, as I have not come across this problem before. I have looked on the TMG forum and not found the same error. Ailsa Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: ailsacorlett@gmail.com

I avoid McAfee like the plague. Many computer users designate it as "crapware." When I had it on my computer, during an update, it got caught in an endless loop, with up to 23 processes executing at the same time. I had to do a cold reboot to regain control of the computer, and then discovered that the listing of all my programs in Start > Programs had been deleted, as well as all my bookmarks in Firefox. Fortunately, I had an image backup of my computer, and was able to restore the system from that. Otherwise, I'd have been totally hosed. Watch out for Adobe updates--Adobe reader updates will install McAfee by default--one has to uncheck a box to avoid the install. Thanks and best wishes to all of you for the help and ideas on this list! David David A. Coats Coats Translation Service ATA Certified Translators: E>G, G>E Phone: 612-379-7398 Fax: 612-379-0384 email: david@coatstranslation.com coatstrnsl@cs.com On 06/30/2015 9:40, Janelle Swearingen via wrote: > I just posted the problem I was having printing Ahnentafels and then found the solution. It was the same solution I had been advised to use for the problem producing gedcoms!!! The solution is to temporarily TURN OFF THE REAL-TIME SCANNING by McAfee. > > Janelle > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just posted the problem I was having printing Ahnentafels and then found the solution. It was the same solution I had been advised to use for the problem producing gedcoms!!! The solution is to temporarily TURN OFF THE REAL-TIME SCANNING by McAfee. Janelle

I found that I had to disable my anti-virus software to get the GEDCOM export to work properly -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janelle Swearingen via Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2015 4:02 AM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] gedcom export TMG 8 Somehow I am no longer able to export gedcoms. It goes through all the motions, but the output is just a small fraction of the data. Example I have over over 15,000 individuals which usually results in a gedcom of more than 4MB, but now results in a file with about 80 people and 32K. I’m still able with the same software to get all the entries in a gedcom on a different older computer, but those files don’t have all the most recent additions and corrections. This is a new problem as I have been able to output gedcoms from both computers without a problem until recently. Unfortunately I have added several hundred in one of the projects since then, and cannot export that updated file to a gedcom. I wanted to share that data online, but cannot create a file to do it. HELP. Terry Reigel suggested that perhaps a Cloud was interfering, so I removed the Cloud from my computer, restarted the computer and it still will not export the full files. Any suggestions? Janelle The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds like your monitors may be different between the two machines. Just restore everything but preferences and then manually set them. Teresa Elliott > On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Ailsa Corlett via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have no idea what was wrong, but after uninstalling TMG again, then > running CC Cleaner and making sure all traces of TMG were removed from the > laptop. Reinstalled again. > This time opened the Sample first, all was ok and could access the exhibit > log and images. > Then restored my fresh backup, using my preferences - again I had the same > issue with accessing the exhibit log and any images. > > This then was the same with the sample project, - so had a feeling was > something to do with my preferences settings. > > Repeated the above process of uninstall and reinstall. Again sample project > worked well. > Did restore but this time selected not to install my existing preferences. > This time when restore was finished I could access the exhibits and exhibit > log without issues. > > Just meant I then had to go into the preferences and set as I normally have > on desktop. There was no change to the paths of anything and at no time have > I had any error messages. > > For some reason even after resetting the preferences all is working well. > Have exited and opened again, double clicked on images etc and all is > working as it should. > > I have no explanation for what the issue really was, but it is now fixed - > just hope this does not occur each time I need to restore from my desktop > backup as I do this on a very regular basis. > > Thanks to any that have sent through replies before I have had time to post > this to the list. > > Ailsa > > Ailsa Corlett > ailsa@st.net.au > http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa > alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: > ailsacorlett@gmail.com > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janelle - Look for an option in your anti-virus software to exclude specific programs like TMG from being monitored. Virginia On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Karen & Ed Stewart via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I found that I had to disable my anti-virus software to get the GEDCOM export to work properly > > -----Original Message----- > From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janelle Swearingen via > Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2015 4:02 AM > To: TMG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TMG] gedcom export TMG 8 > > Somehow I am no longer able to export gedcoms. It goes through all the motions, but the output is just a small fraction of the data. Example I have over over 15,000 individuals which usually results in a gedcom of more than 4MB, but now results in a file with about 80 people and 32K. I’m still able with the same software to get all the entries in a gedcom on a different older computer, but those files don’t have all the most recent additions and corrections. This is a new problem as I have been able to output gedcoms from both computers without a problem until recently. Unfortunately I have added several hundred in one of the projects since then, and cannot export that updated file to a gedcom. I wanted to share that data online, but cannot create a file to do it. > > HELP. Terry Reigel suggested that perhaps a Cloud was interfering, so I removed the Cloud from my computer, restarted the computer and it still will not export the full files. > > Any suggestions? > > Janelle > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the solution on the Wholly Genes Forum – which is still up I guess. Anyway, I turned off McAfee real-time scanning and it worked - I got a complete gedcom!!! Thanks to all of you who responded to my problem. Hooray

Janelle - Check that your anti-virus program (particularly if McAfee) is not monitoring TMG files. There is a know problem when exporting GEDCOMs with those programs. Virginia On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Janelle Swearingen via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Somehow I am no longer able to export gedcoms. It goes through all the motions, but the output is just a small fraction of the data. Example I have over over 15,000 individuals which usually results in a gedcom of more than 4MB, but now results in a file with about 80 people and 32K. I’m still able with the same software to get all the entries in a gedcom on a different older computer, but those files don’t have all the most recent additions and corrections. This is a new problem as I have been able to output gedcoms from both computers without a problem until recently. Unfortunately I have added several hundred in one of the projects since then, and cannot export that updated file to a gedcom. I wanted to share that data online, but cannot create a file to do it. > > HELP. Terry Reigel suggested that perhaps a Cloud was interfering, so I removed the Cloud from my computer, restarted the computer and it still will not export the full files. > > Any suggestions? > > Janelle > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 6/29/2015 15:48, you wrote: > Today, out of the blue, I started getting the following >error when I tried to export a GEDCOM file, and also when I tried to >read my TMG database with Gedviewer2 (but not when I read the database >with TMG Utility): "Record is out of range; 4342 G_Event." This error is usually due to bad indexing. Somewhere along the way, the index file got corrupted. This is rarely a bad problem although reports, etc. can have some minor problems here and there. The best way to resolve this problem is to reindex your project -- File=>Maintenance=>Reindex. Lee

Sorry for the duplicate messages. The first one was not sent in plain text, so I thought it would be rejected. -- Carl > Carl Jón Denbow via <mailto:tmg@rootsweb.com> > Monday, June 29, 2015 3:48 PMvia Postbox > <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach> > I have a problem, which I've solved, but I would like an explanation > from anyone who is a FoxPro expert and/or has the relevant programming > experience. Today, out of the blue, I started getting the following > error when I tried to export a GEDCOM file, and also when I tried to > read my TMG database with Gedviewer2 (but not when I read the database > with TMG Utility): "Record is out of range; 4342 G_Event." On the off > chance that this referred to something wrong with the entries for Person > 4342 I went to that entry. I didn't see anything wrong, but I went > ahead and edited the woman's married name from just "Toland" to > "Elizabeth Toland" by adding her given name in the appropriate field. I > figured that maybe in re-writing part of her entry the program might > correct whatever hidden problem might be lurking. Much to my surprise > this actually worked. I was then able to make the GEDCOM export that > had failed numerous times. I had even uninstalled and reinstalled TMG > in case there was a corruption in the program files themselves -- that > after a repair install that also didn't solve the problem. None of that > helped. Only the funny business I did with entry 4342 fixed things. > Now, what in world did I actually do, and what would have been the > underlying problem? Curious minds want to know! ;-) > > Thanks. > > Carl > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Sent from Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach>

I have a problem, which I've solved, but I would like an explanation from anyone who is a FoxPro expert and/or has the relevant programming experience. Today, out of the blue, I started getting the following error when I tried to export a GEDCOM file, and also when I tried to read my TMG database with Gedviewer2 (but not when I read the database with TMG Utility): "Record is out of range; 4342 G_Event." On the off chance that this referred to something wrong with the entries for Person 4342 I went to that entry. I didn't see anything wrong, but I went ahead and edited the woman's married name from just "Toland" to "Elizabeth Toland" by adding her given name in the appropriate field. I figured that maybe in re-writing part of her entry the program might correct whatever hidden problem might be lurking. Much to my surprise this actually worked. I was then able to make the GEDCOM export that had failed numerous times. I had even uninstalled and reinstalled TMG in case there was a corruption in the program files themselves -- that after a repair install that also didn't solve the problem. None of that helped. Only the funny business I did with entry 4342 fixed things. Now, what in world did I actually do, and what would have been the underlying problem? Curious minds want to know! ;-) Thanks. Carl

I have a problem, which I've solved, but I would like an explanation from anyone who is a FoxPro expert and/or has the relevant programming experience. Today, out of the blue, I started getting the following error when I tried to export a GEDCOM file, and also when I tried to read my TMG database with Gedviewer2 (but not when I read the database with TMG Utility): "Record is out of range; 4342 G_Event." On the off chance that this referred to something wrong with the entries for Person 4342 I went to that entry. I didn't see anything wrong, but I went ahead and edited the woman's married name from just "Toland" to "Elizabeth Toland" by adding her given name in the appropriate field. I figured that maybe in re-writing part of her entry the program might correct whatever hidden problem might be lurking. Much to my surprise this actually worked. I was then able to make the GEDCOM export that had failed numerous times. I had even uninstalled and reinstalled TMG in case there was a corruption in the program files themselves -- that after a repair install that also didn't solve the problem. None of that helped. Only the funny business I did with entry 4342 fixed things. Now, what in world did I actually do, and what would have been the underlying problem? Curious minds want to know! ;-) Thanks. Carl