Hi Terry, Thank you for all of the information. I was able to create a from persons in my TMG file a couple of months ago, but I could not remember how I did it. The information you sent will be a big help. Richard

Famviewer is an excellent app also. It brings in exhibits also. Been using it since its inception and release years ago. TC Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Garry F Bell via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Lorna, that's food for thought. I have Second Site so may have > to concentrate on it. > > Incidentally, I am still trying to come to grips with GedMatch. > > Regards > Garry >> I have my entire database (considerable) generated into Second Site as >> a private web version of my site - witnesses and all. >> Which can then be read using GoodReader. >> >> (I also have the ancestry and MyHeritage and Familysearch aps and a >> copy of my RootsMagic atDNA database in the RM ap as well) >> >>> >>> I have no desire to take leave of TMG on my Windows PC but when I am >>> waiting for someone/something I like to browse my iPad, and in this case >>> my Genealogy. Can someone suggest an App to which I can GedCom my Tree >>> (except for Witnesses) and take it from there. I reiterate - it is only >>> for browsing purposes. It will be food for thought. > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Best of luck, John. We'll be rooting for you Sent from my iPod > On Jul 30, 2015, at 8:26 PM, John Cardinal via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > TMG-L members, > > > > Many of you use my donorware program TMG Utility (TMGU) and have made a > donation to support my continued development and technical support of the > program. This is just an FYI: this weekend is when my daughters and I are > riding in the Pan-Mass Challenge (PMC), the two-day, 192-mile bicycle ride > across Massachusetts to raise money for the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. > > > > I've been training and I think I am ready, but even when in shape (sorta), > it's a long ride and things get sore. Like neck muscles. And hands. And > legs. But mostly the part I put on the seat! Then, after riding 110 miles > the first day, we get back on the bikes the next day and do 82 more. > > > > Our PMC team has a "Pedal Partner", a 3-year old girl named Belle who has > Metastatic Rhabdomyosarcoma, Stage 4. She's had chemotherapy and radiation > treatment, and she's had a very rough time. We were ecstatic to find out > this week that Belle feels well enough for her parents to bring her to one > of our water stops to say hello during our ride! That's a lot of motivation > for us! > > > > If you are in New England, you might catch the opening ceremonies on WCVB > (channel 5) on Friday night, July 31st, at 7pm. > > > > John > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have fun John. Makes me tired just thinking about you. Teresa Elliott > On Jul 30, 2015, at 7:26 PM, John Cardinal via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > TMG-L members, > > > > Many of you use my donorware program TMG Utility (TMGU) and have made a > donation to support my continued development and technical support of the > program. This is just an FYI: this weekend is when my daughters and I are > riding in the Pan-Mass Challenge (PMC), the two-day, 192-mile bicycle ride > across Massachusetts to raise money for the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. > > > > I've been training and I think I am ready, but even when in shape (sorta), > it's a long ride and things get sore. Like neck muscles. And hands. And > legs. But mostly the part I put on the seat! Then, after riding 110 miles > the first day, we get back on the bikes the next day and do 82 more. > > > > Our PMC team has a "Pedal Partner", a 3-year old girl named Belle who has > Metastatic Rhabdomyosarcoma, Stage 4. She's had chemotherapy and radiation > treatment, and she's had a very rough time. We were ecstatic to find out > this week that Belle feels well enough for her parents to bring her to one > of our water stops to say hello during our ride! That's a lot of motivation > for us! > > > > If you are in New England, you might catch the opening ceremonies on WCVB > (channel 5) on Friday night, July 31st, at 7pm. > > > > John > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

TMG-L members, Many of you use my donorware program TMG Utility (TMGU) and have made a donation to support my continued development and technical support of the program. This is just an FYI: this weekend is when my daughters and I are riding in the Pan-Mass Challenge (PMC), the two-day, 192-mile bicycle ride across Massachusetts to raise money for the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. I've been training and I think I am ready, but even when in shape (sorta), it's a long ride and things get sore. Like neck muscles. And hands. And legs. But mostly the part I put on the seat! Then, after riding 110 miles the first day, we get back on the bikes the next day and do 82 more. Our PMC team has a "Pedal Partner", a 3-year old girl named Belle who has Metastatic Rhabdomyosarcoma, Stage 4. She's had chemotherapy and radiation treatment, and she's had a very rough time. We were ecstatic to find out this week that Belle feels well enough for her parents to bring her to one of our water stops to say hello during our ride! That's a lot of motivation for us! If you are in New England, you might catch the opening ceremonies on WCVB (channel 5) on Friday night, July 31st, at 7pm. John

At 7/30/2015 15:21, you wrote: >In (finally) migrating to v9, I've discovered that all my project names >have been stripped of any capital letters.* Is there a setting for that >somewhere? I am unsure of exactly what got stripped of capital letters -- the names of the project (and its files) or the names in the project. I suspect it may be the latter. In that case, go to FILE=>Preferences=>Current Proiect Options=General and see if the options in the lower part of the option panel are set to display Surname/given names in CAPS. Lee

Along those same lines, just to show that different organizations have different policies, here are the instructions from the New England Historic Genealogical Society: NEHGS encourages our members and friends to consider donating their genealogical materials. Donations of books and other published material (family histories, periodicals, etc.) relevant to genealogy or local history are greatly appreciated. These gifts will be added to our Research Library as new titles or replacement copies. If they are not needed in the collection, they may be sold to benefit the NEHGS Book Preservation Fund. We also seek donations of digital files (preferably PDF or Word documents) for addition to the NEHGS Digital Library and Archive. Many researchers own unique manuscript items. Donations of such items to NEHGS form the basis of our amazing manuscript collection. Many researchers may wish to plan for the eventual disposition of their family collections. NEHGS is the perfect place to preserve and protect your family treasures, and make them available to future generations of family history researchers. What NEHGS Collects Books and other published material (family histories, periodicals, etc.) in print or electronic form Handwritten and typed family histories and charts Material with vital statistic data such as Bible records, town, church, and cemetery records Genealogical papers compiled by genealogical researchers and authors Family association collections Original primary source documents donated individually and in collections of family papers Donating Materials to NEHGS NEHGS, like many institutions, prefers manuscript gifts to include the transfer of any rights a donor may possess in the original material. This is requested so that NEHGS may, at its discretion, exhibit or reformat / reproduce (for preservation and/or publication) all or part of a collection in the media of our choice. Per IRS regulations, monetary appraisals cannot be undertaken by any representative of NEHGS. All monetary appraisals will be done at the donor's expense. Donors of manuscript are asked to provide information about the collection's creator(s) or compiler(s) to assist us with cataloging. Permanent deposits are discouraged because NEHGS must expend its limited resources towards maintaining and preserving fully donated manuscripts. In rare instances when such collections are accepted, they must be central to the acquisition policy and should have a defined limit at which time they become the property of NEHGS. For more information on donating manuscript items, please contact: Judy Lucey Archivist New England Historic Genealogical Society 99-101 Newbury Street Boston, MA 02116-3007 jlucey@nehgs.org 617-226-1223 -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donald W. Range via Sent: July-30-15 4:09 PM To: 'pbalkcom'; tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] Preserving those huge databases I recently needed to look up for a friend the FamilySearch guidelines for donated genealogical materials they do and don't want. Since it may be of interest to those following Pat's query, I'll post the link here: https://familysearch.org/sites/default/uploads/Donations-Guidelines-REVISION -12-July-2012.pdf -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pbalkcom via Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:26 AM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Preserving those huge databases In several recent posts, people, like Lee, have stated that they have upwards of 50,000 people in their database. It brings to mind the question - What will happen to all that work after I die? or better yet - What can I do now to preserve that information? Because our databases are not static and change on an almost daily basis, it's not practical to start printing out 50,000 Individual Reports that you could give to an archive or library because what you print today would possibly be changed by tomorrow. One could write a book that might include a few thousand of those people in it but what happens to all the information you have gathered on all those other thousands of collateral people? I'd be interested in hearing of people's plans for their TMG databases and also their Second Site websites after they are gone. Thanks. The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rick, I am not aware of any setting to control capitalization of TMG project files. I am not aware that there was any change in v9 regarding filename capitalization, but there may have been. Unfortunately, depending on specific capitalization for TMG filenames is difficult because TMG is inconsistent, and has been since TMG v5 if not before. For example, here's three files for the "S" table: PROD_S.CDX PROD_S.DBF prod_s.FPT Two have "PROD_S" and one has "prod_s". For the "U" table, there are two files: PROD_U.CDX prod_u.dbf Different capitalization again, and unlike the "S" table, the DBF file has a lowercase name and extension. TMG says TOMATO, but TMG also says tomato, ToMaTo, etc. John

Would that have an effect on file names, Lee, or is that only for the appearance of names within the program? (I have it set the same as I had it in TMG8.) Rick Van Dusen On 7/30/2015 3:11 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY wrote: > At 7/30/2015 15:21, you wrote: >> In (finally) migrating to v9, I've discovered that all my project names >> have been stripped of any capital letters.* Is there a setting for that >> somewhere? > > I am unsure of exactly what got stripped of capital letters -- the names > of the project (and its files) or the names in the project. I suspect > it may be the latter. In that case, go to FILE=>Preferences=>Current > Proiect Options=General and see if the options in the lower part of the > option panel are set to display Surname/given names in CAPS. > > Lee > > >

I recently needed to look up for a friend the FamilySearch guidelines for donated genealogical materials they do and don't want. Since it may be of interest to those following Pat's query, I'll post the link here: https://familysearch.org/sites/default/uploads/Donations-Guidelines-REVISION -12-July-2012.pdf -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pbalkcom via Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:26 AM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Preserving those huge databases In several recent posts, people, like Lee, have stated that they have upwards of 50,000 people in their database. It brings to mind the question - What will happen to all that work after I die? or better yet - What can I do now to preserve that information? Because our databases are not static and change on an almost daily basis, it's not practical to start printing out 50,000 Individual Reports that you could give to an archive or library because what you print today would possibly be changed by tomorrow. One could write a book that might include a few thousand of those people in it but what happens to all the information you have gathered on all those other thousands of collateral people? I'd be interested in hearing of people's plans for their TMG databases and also their Second Site websites after they are gone. Thanks.

Kathryn, Glad this suggestion was helpful to you. When a bulk correction is needed there's always the question of whether it's worth the trouble to try to work out some semi-automated procedure with flags and TMG-Utility, or just go in and make the changes one tag at a time within TMG. If it's something simple, like rewording a citation detail which is repeated in many citations, I just do it one at a time unless the number of changes exceeds ten or fifteen. Your situation has many more cases to deal with and they are more complex than what TMG-Utility is designed to do in a single operation. As you continue to do this conversion John's suggestion that you contact him off list may provide you some further options. Don -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn at Gwens [mailto:kathrynatgwens@socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:46 AM To: 'Donald W. Range' Subject: RE: [TMG] Cardinal's Utility [snip] So, Donald, thanks for coming up with something that cut this process in half.

I would do one project as well. It allows you to share sources and tags. And, even if you think there is no overlap in people you might be surprised at what you find. Segregating the lines for printing or sharing is easy enough to do. Since you are just starting with these lines, you might want to consider using a different software program. TMG is no longer supported and the data will have to be moved to something eventually. It would be easier to start your project in another program than to try and import it later. Sheila Altenbernd -----Original Message----- From: Lee Hoffman/KY via Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:56 PM To: Blah BlahBlah ; tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] One huge project or 15+ projects? At 7/24/2015 18:17, you wrote: > However, I'm up in the air about what to do about entering this >information into TMG: keep each family separate or just have one >gigantic database.

At age 75, I'm using the SS route. Bud Dorr

Earlier today Pat asked: > In several recent posts, people, like Lee, have stated that they have > upwards of 50,000 people in their database. It brings to mind the > question - What will happen to all that work after I die? or better > yet - What can I do now to preserve that information? Because our > databases are not static and change on an almost daily basis, it?s > not practical to start printing out 50,000 Individual Reports that > you could give to an archive or library because what you print today > would possibly be changed by tomorrow. One could write a book that > might include a few thousand of those people in it but what happens > to all the information you have gathered on all those other thousands > of collateral people? I?d be interested in hearing of people?s plans > for their TMG databases and also their Second Site websites after > they are gone. Thanks. Our Edmund Rice (1638) Association currently has over 220,000 person records in our association TMG database. As an association we must plan for future generations who will continue enhancing our association records. A few years ago we asked ourselves what we would do when Bob Velke decided that WhollyGenes could no longer support TMG. We decided that the only viable way to plan for the transition from TMG to a new, unknown, computer program was to make our database compliant with GEDCOM conventions. Among other TMG functions that means no witness and no roles functions. Each fall we import a GEDCOM from TMG to a different program to try to identify data incompatibilities with our TMG database. When John Cardinal's Second Site GEDCOM sibling comes along we will have an additional test generating web pages from our TMG GEDCOM. Until a better data exchange format comes along we will observe the GEDCOM data exchange conventions. Many of you will not like this solution; we welcome other solutions. Best, George George W. King, Historian Edmund Rice (1638) Association www.edmund-rice.org

Thanks, John. Yes, I've seen the inconsistency you describe; some file names are ALLCAPS and others are, in my folders, SomeCaps in TMG8 but nocaps after migration to TMG9. (I looked back and there seems also to be, in the TMG8 folder, some mixture of SomeCaps and nocaps. I find no such mix on my old computer [Win2000 with FAT32 filesystem], so possibly Win7/NTFS is "being smarter".) It appears, though, that whatever the layout of the *.pjc file name, that is used as the project name and the .sqz file name. (I also tried to rename one project, but TMG didn't seem to understand what I was trying to do and left the name as nocaps.) So looks like we're going to have to watch what we're doing either in the Backup process (make the destination file name consistent) and/or in the FTP client (select the newer of myproject or MyProject). (Still awaiting my cousin's answer as to whether TMG9 on his computer is doing the same thing.) Rick Van Dusen On 7/30/2015 1:27 PM, John Cardinal via wrote: > Rick, > > I am not aware of any setting to control capitalization of TMG project > files. I am not aware that there was any change in v9 regarding filename > capitalization, but there may have been. Unfortunately, depending on > specific capitalization for TMG filenames is difficult because TMG is > inconsistent, and has been since TMG v5 if not before. For example, here's > three files for the "S" table: > > PROD_S.CDX > PROD_S.DBF > prod_s.FPT > > Two have "PROD_S" and one has "prod_s". For the "U" table, there are two > files: > > PROD_U.CDX > prod_u.dbf > > Different capitalization again, and unlike the "S" table, the DBF file has a > lowercase name and extension. > > TMG says TOMATO, but TMG also says tomato, ToMaTo, etc. > > John

This is what steps I have taken: 1st and foremost, I share with anybody who will take my data: e.g. Amer. Hist Soc of Germans from Russia, Campbell Society of America, DAR, LDS (I am not LDS) etc. etc. 2nd, a few years back, I made up file boxes with copies of my documents and printed charts for all those for whom I have done genealogy: e.g. girl friends, daughter-in-law, son-in-law, etc. but only AFTER first making sure that everything was properly cited on the computer, so that I could access it again later. This also helped clean out my office. However, I did keep the "wanna bes" - those files that I have not yet proven or disproven fit the various families. Probably when they clear out my office these files might end up being discarded as no one will know to whom they belong. Oh well! THEN, I have given instructions to husband and family: e.g. I am a Village Coordinator for the American Historical Society of Germans from Russia and I want those materials to go to Concordia University in Portland, OR. I have a stepdaughter who lives in the Portland area and I am confident that between her, my husband and my daughter it will get done. While we can give all the instructions "in the world" there is no assurance that family will actually do as we ask, so back up, back up and share share. You can only do your best; other suggestions are appreciated. Rolene Eichman Kiesling, Groveland, CA

In case anyone is following along and needs to try this as well, Donald suggested: > Method B: > In TMG, create a new flag called XYZMEMO or similar with possible values ? > Y, then use the List of People report to find all the people for whom > the # of Note tags=1 AND Note Memo Contains xyz. Use the Secondary > Output of that report to set that flag to Y for all people who have > only one Note event tag which has xyz in the tag memo. BTW, for those who cautioned - I ALWAYS backup first, AND copy the backup to my Dropbox folder. And of course, in the Utility, I "log" first, before I do a change. With what he gave me, I was at least able to eliminate one of the manual steps I was using. Method B sounded the best way to try. First, a backup and then I set a flag (tempRust for this particular one), and that gave me 71 people. Then I filtered for tempRust=Y and Note-#ofNotes greater than 1. That gave me just 9 to go through and fix up the "extra" notes to being something more meaningful (most were just comments that belongs in the memo of some other existing tag). Now I'm left with just one note for each of the 71 people, so I don't have that downside of changing ALL the note tags to Source tags. Made another backup. > In TMG-Utility, use the Events/Change Event Type feature to change > from Note type to Source type. Set a flag filter to require that the > XYZMEMO flag have value of Y. This should change the Note tags to > Source tags for all people with only one Note tag, and it has xyz in the tag memo. That worked like a charm. Made another backup. Then in TMG, filtered the PE for tempRust=Y to get my 71 people. Now, it's a matter of going down the list to quickly add the citation. I can then choose to delete the citation right then, or bulk do it with the Utility later. But the point here is that I do not have to click on the Source Type and scroll down in order to change it from Note to Source. That was the most time consuming of the process when you multiply it by 71 people. There is one of this type thing I will come across that will probably be closer to 150 people. In case anyone is wondering why I am adding just a single source tag to the person, instead of citing each of the person's tags pertinent to that source, it's a matter of cleanup priorities. If the XYZ memo is only for a half dozen people, I will dig out the source and see which factoids came from that book/record. But, in general, that takes a lot more time than she (my client) wants me to spend, especially when the people aren't ancestral. She has many friend projects mixed in with her database - like recently, friend A was having a birthday and she wanted to see if there was a mutual ancestor. Nowadays, I cite the sources to the right tags as I go along. But there are a number of this type of friend projects that stem back to the FamilyRoots days when there wasn't that capability. That's what I'm now cleaning up to have a source instead of a note. So, Donald, thanks for coming up with something that cut this process in half. -- Kathryn Bassett kathrynatgwens@socal.rr.com (work) kathryn@bassett.net (home)

On 7/30/2015 1:42 PM, Richard Hayes via wrote: > Hello All, > > I would like to export all of the people in one family. The Export Wizard has 2 methods for doing this. One way is to use Project Explorer, the other is to use a Focus Group. I have a list of the IDs I want to export, but I can not see exactly how to make a list of them. How do I choose the ID numbers? If I want to use the other method how do you build the Focus Group. When I looked at this method it only gave me a space for 8 ID Numbers. I have 17 numbers. Will someone explain these options so that I can understand them. Richard, The Focus Group is probably the simplest way - it is certainly not limited to 8 people - you can put thousands in it. With only 17 people involved you could probably just add them all manually. But assuming they are all related closely you could use the "Add Others" feature to add a key person, then add the others in a step or two. For example, add the parent, then add Descendants for one or two generations. For more details see my article on People Filters, at http://tmg.reigelridge.com/Filters.htm#fg Terry Reigel

Hello All, I would like to export all of the people in one family. The Export Wizard has 2 methods for doing this. One way is to use Project Explorer, the other is to use a Focus Group. I have a list of the IDs I want to export, but I can not see exactly how to make a list of them. How do I choose the ID numbers? If I want to use the other method how do you build the Focus Group. When I looked at this method it only gave me a space for 8 ID Numbers. I have 17 numbers. Will someone explain these options so that I can understand them. Richard

Pat wrote: "In several recent posts, people, like Lee, have stated that they have upwards of 50,000 people in their database. It brings to mind the question - What will happen to all that work after I die? or better yet - What can I do now to preserve that information? ..." My comments: My New England Ball Project is now over 100,000 people and I am now 73, so the "end game" question is getting more and more relevant. I have several prongs to my plan of attack all of which are detailed in my "estate instructions" under construction: 1. First is how to copy my Second Site website (that includes everyone) to an autorun CD and give that to a bunch of genealogy libraries (NEHGS, Allen, Salt Lake FH library, etc.). That is the short term step limited by future technology, but the easiest and fastest way to dump nearly everything (except details other than names for living people) in a form that might be useful. Haven't decided whether it would be possible to have my website maintained with the appropriate changes to clearly indicate that it is dormant and contact with me no longer possible. 2. Next is to provide my executor with a list of papers, books, and letters in my file cabinets that need to go to a repository along with funding to make it worthwhile for a repository to accept the papers (I have over 1,000 letters over 50 years from Ball families providing info on their families, many unpublished journal reports from other researchers, etc.). 3. I still need to make a list and to provide step by step TMG instructions to print out a bunch of journal reports (each starting with an immigrant Ball individual to North America) that should be duplicated and bound and donated to the same list of libraries that get the Second Site CD. This is the best long-term solution to preserving all of the work I have done, but also the most labor intensive process (to say nothing of potentially costly) of the options. Nonetheless, I am proud of much of the research I have done and to print "books" that include sources for nearly all of the names, dates, and places would be a step above the typical printed genealogy. Duplicating and binding will not be cheap, so this is something that needs to be well detailed for the executor OR already done by me. 4. Biggest item on the wishlist would be to find someone willing to take over my Project or perhaps some parts of my project spread across individuals each interested in only one Ball immigrant and that person's descendants. That is my biggest challenge both for the personal family ancestry part of my database, as well as for the New England Ball Project majority of my database, doubly complicated due to the end of TMG. To the good side of migrating to another software, I do not use any of the witness features of TMG, so my database is pretty close to GEDCOM compatible. I am in good health, so I am hoping that a viable option evolves in the next few years to replace TMG while I am still capable of managing that transition myself. That would make shifting my database or a part of my database to someone else much easier through get having them have the same software I am then using. Dave Ball