Bob Geldart wrote: > I would be interested if anyone has developed a Guardianship Tag, > something along the lines of: > > /In December 1721, John Palmer was appointed guardian of Joseph and > Christopher Boober/ I have a "Guardian" tag, in the "Other event" group, with the guardians as Principal (or Principals), and the ward(s) as Witnesses. The Principal's sentence is [P] <was appointed guardian|and [PO] were appointed guardians> of [WO] <[D]> <[L]> The Witness's sentence for males is [P] <was appointed as his guardian|and [PO] were appointed as his guardians> <[D]> <[L]> and the same for females with "his" replaced by "her." I also have roles defined for the tag (although I know you said you don't use custom roles) of Husband, Wife, Child1-Child5, and Ward, that allow a little more variation in sentence structure. > I often seem to have trouble building a tag at the step, "pick the group > that it most resembles". Not sure what you mean by this. I don't get this prompt when creating a Tag Type. Do you mean picking the Tag Group, in the General tab? -- Charlie Towne cetownegm@gmail.com

Further thought: I'm thinking I may create a Tag Type "More" (or "Raw Data" or "Further") in which I can just refer to the file and nothing more, no date, no categorization (since the files often contain data for multiple tags). Rick Van Dusen On 8/10/2015 7:46 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY via wrote:

On 8/12/2015 10:58 AM, Bob Geldart via wrote: > I would be interested if anyone has developed a Guardianship Tag, > something along the lines of: > > /In December 1721, John Palmer was appointed guardian of Joseph and > Christopher Boober/ Bob, Here's mine. I know you don't want to use custom Roles, but I did. Here are my Roles and their Sentences: Principal: [:CR:][:TAB:][P] became the guardian of [R:Ward] <[D]><, [M]> Witness: ERROR - assign role of Ward Ward: After the death of [SPP] father, [P1]<, [WM1],> became [SPP] guardian <[D]> <[WM2]> I designed this to have the guardian entered as the first Principal, and assigned the standard Principal Role. The child is assigned the Role of Ward. With this design the ward can be entered either as the second Principal or as a Witness. If you don't want custom Role you could modify this to do that. > I often seem to have trouble building a tag at the step, "pick the group > that it most resembles". I think you are confusing Tag Types with Source Types. That wording appears when you create a custom Source Type. However, with new Tag Types you do have to choose a Tag Type Group, and you must do that before you save the new Tag Type, as you can't change it once you save it. But the choice is easy - unless you are creating custom Name, Relationship, Birth, Death, or Burial Tag Type, you always choose "Other Event." > Looking more for a straightforward tag, as I don't use custom roles. Why not? :-) Terry Reigel

Oh, THANKS, Lee! You've just given me a way to procrastinate even more about converting data copied into text files into properly configured tags!<g> I expect I'll take this "lazy way" and simply make tags that refer to these text files until I get around to making the tags act like they should. (And seriously, this seems a real improvement over having bits of data here and there in text files.) Rick Van Dusen On 8/10/2015 7:46 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY via wrote: > Some years ago, way back on TMG v4x and earlier, I often had text > files that I had created about various persons that I researched. In > order to speed up some of my data entry, I decided to include them in > my TMG data set as they were with the intention of editing my data > into TMG Tags or in some other way later. : : : It is a nice > feature and saves re-typing, or copy/pasting and still works in TMG > v9x today. I doubt that many users know about it, so thought I'd mention it . > > To reference and external file in a TMG Tag, go to the Tag Memo and > type in the File Path and File Name for the file -- preceded by an > exclamation mark (!). For example, if the file name is Davis > History.txt, and you have placed it in a folder named TextFiles in > your TMG User Data Files folder, then you would enter the following > in the Tag Memo field: > "!C:\Users\username\My Documents\The Master Genealogist > v9\TextFiles\Davis History.txt" > (omitting the quotes). : : : > It is a nice feature. Try it, you may find it helpful. > > Lee

I would be interested if anyone has developed a Guardianship Tag, something along the lines of: /In December 1721, John Palmer was appointed guardian of Joseph and Christopher Boober/ I often seem to have trouble building a tag at the step, "pick the group that it most resembles". Looking more for a straightforward tag, as I don't use custom roles. Thanks, -- Bob Geldart Maynard, MA Searching: Geldart/Gildart, Venti, Willcutt, Besaw, Bubar, Maynard

I am not tech savvy. But am successfully using TMG ver. 9. Lately, all my name IDs have an added character. I.e. - Bob O'Brien (1:500). I believe this means I am using a duplicate data set. But I have no idea how I did this, nor how to delete this. Any suggestions appreciated. Bob O'BRIEN in AZ

Paul - See Help for the Family Group sheet and the box at the top of the page. The table module in Word 2013 was completely rewritten and is not compatible with the TMG FGS and other tabular reports. Use RTF when saving the FGS to Word. Virginia On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Paul Hoffman via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > While many of you are dealing with the vagaries of WIN10 conversion, I finally upgraded to 8.1. I’ll wait 6 months until I attempt 10. I think TMG came on successfully but I have one glaring glitch that deals with saved Family Group reports that were created on Word 97-2003. When I try to open them I am told “A table in this document has become corrupted.” Neither I nor a number of experienced 8.1 users can follow Word’s suggestion to “open and repair” since we can’t find the toggle that brings us to it. > > If I create a new Family Group report it too is corrupted. However, if I attach a “corrupted” report to an email to a user of an older version of Word, it can be opened just fine. When they send it back to me, it is corrupted. It does not appear other types of reports are infected. Any thoughts? Is this a WORD problem or a TMG problem? > > PWH > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lloyd, before you do all that, I suggest you check the TMG-L archives and/or wait for other responses, because I think this is a false positive result that others have encountered. I'd check archives for you, but it's midnight here, and I need my beauty sleep! Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia On 11/8/15 22:58, TC Cottrell via wrote: > The last version of TMG is still available on his website. Do another backup of your data from TMG. Download new copy of TMG, remove your current version, reinstall the downloaded version, restore your data from the last backup. Although that isn't totally fullproof, it is likely if TMG is really infected this will remove the issue. Just my suggestion. Also, consider ESET security program. I'm very pleased with it - it has saved my bacon more than once. > TC > > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Lloyd Gledhill via <tmg@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Aug 11, 2015 7:59 AM >> To: tmg@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [TMG] Malware in tmg9.exe? >> >> I use Avast! internet Security. >> When I just now tried to open TMG Avast immediately moved my tmg9.exe >> to the "Virus Chest" on the grounds that it might contain the virus >> Win32:Evo-gen [Susp]. (It might be only a coincidence but this was >> the first time I tried to open TMG after installing Windows 10). >> There is plenty about Win32:Evo-gen [Susp] on the Web, one site for >> example being http://malwaretips.com/blogs/win32evo-gen-susp-virus/. >> This site does mention that such a report can be a false positive. >> I really feel that there is nothing suspicious with my tmg9.exe but I >> am cautious about malware and the like so I am thinking about what I >> should do next. >> Does anyone have advice on this matter? >> Thanks >> Lloyd Gledhill >>

I use Avast! internet Security. When I just now tried to open TMG Avast immediately moved my tmg9.exe to the "Virus Chest" on the grounds that it might contain the virus Win32:Evo-gen [Susp]. (It might be only a coincidence but this was the first time I tried to open TMG after installing Windows 10). There is plenty about Win32:Evo-gen [Susp] on the Web, one site for example being http://malwaretips.com/blogs/win32evo-gen-susp-virus/. This site does mention that such a report can be a false positive. I really feel that there is nothing suspicious with my tmg9.exe but I am cautious about malware and the like so I am thinking about what I should do next. Does anyone have advice on this matter? Thanks Lloyd Gledhill

Lee Thanks for the great tip. I will give this a try. Tracey At 12:01 AM 8/11/2015, tmg-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >To reference and external file in a TMG Tag, go to the Tag Memo and >type in the File Path and File Name for the file -- preceded by an >exclamation mark (!).

The last version of TMG is still available on his website. Do another backup of your data from TMG. Download new copy of TMG, remove your current version, reinstall the downloaded version, restore your data from the last backup. Although that isn't totally fullproof, it is likely if TMG is really infected this will remove the issue. Just my suggestion. Also, consider ESET security program. I'm very pleased with it - it has saved my bacon more than once. TC -----Original Message----- >From: Lloyd Gledhill via <tmg@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Aug 11, 2015 7:59 AM >To: tmg@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TMG] Malware in tmg9.exe? > >I use Avast! internet Security. >When I just now tried to open TMG Avast immediately moved my tmg9.exe >to the "Virus Chest" on the grounds that it might contain the virus >Win32:Evo-gen [Susp]. (It might be only a coincidence but this was >the first time I tried to open TMG after installing Windows 10). >There is plenty about Win32:Evo-gen [Susp] on the Web, one site for >example being http://malwaretips.com/blogs/win32evo-gen-susp-virus/. >This site does mention that such a report can be a false positive. >I really feel that there is nothing suspicious with my tmg9.exe but I >am cautious about malware and the like so I am thinking about what I >should do next. >Does anyone have advice on this matter? >Thanks >Lloyd Gledhill >The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some years ago, way back on TMG v4x and earlier, I often had text files that I had created about various persons that I researched. In order to speed up some of my data entry, I decided to include them in my TMG data set as they were with the intention of editing my data into TMG Tags or in some other way later. At that time, TMG had a nice way of handling those external text file. Fast forward to TMG v9x and I dig out an old TMG v4x data set that I had not looked at in more than ten years. I imported that data set into TMG v9x and began to look around. I noted the use of the external text files in that data set. I had not had occasion to use the feature since those early days. It is a nice feature and saves re-typing, or copy/pasting and still works in TMG v9x today. I doubt that many users know about it, so thought I'd mention it . To reference and external file in a TMG Tag, go to the Tag Memo and type in the File Path and File Name for the file -- preceded by an exclamation mark (!). For example, if the file name is Davis History.txt, and you have placed it in a folder named TextFiles in your TMG User Data Files folder, then you would enter the following in the Tag Memo field: "!C:\Users\username\My Documents\The Master Genealogist v9\TextFiles\Davis History.txt" (omitting the quotes). Now when you click on the [Memo] button. the Memo field will open in its own window as usual, but instead of showing the File Path of the External File, it will show the content of the file. The nice thing here is that you can edit that External File in the Memo field window just as if you opened the file in a text editor. See the Memo topic in TMG Help and scroll down about halfway for more information. Some tips -- 1. Be sure to type the File Path/File Name correctly!!! 2. Be sure the exclamation mark is the first character of the Memo field. and the File Path immediately follows it. You can type the entry directly into the Tag Memo field or open the Memo field window and enter it. If you do the later, click the [OK] button to close the window and then re-open it. If you make the entry and open the Memo field window and only see what you entered (File Path/FileName) then you made a mistake in entering it -- no exclamation mark, wrong spelling, or something like this. It is a nice feature. Try it, you may find it helpful. Lee

Thanks for the heads-up about the bug list. Either I hadn't heard about the list or I forgot about it (can't always tell the difference these days). You should probably add that # of Parents doesn't work with the Picklist either. Karl -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael J. Hannah via Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:56 AM To: TMG-L submission address Subject: Re: [TMG] Filter Problem or Pilot Error? Karl Lehman noted a problem with the "# of Parents" Filter. > I searched the TMG list archives and found related topics but nothing > that addressed my problem specifically. Yes, Karl, this bug has been around for a while and never did get fixed before development ceased. It is is my list of remaining bugs: http://www.mjh-nm.net/BUGS.HTML#B52 That entry notes this Filter does not work with the Project Explorer, but I am not surprised it also does not work with the List of People. I will update the bug report to include that. I notice, Karl, that you discovered on your own the workaround identified in that report of combining "# of Mothers" and "# of Fathers" Filters to focus on the appropriate people. I created and posted this list of remaining bugs specifically for users to search who encounter behavior in TMG they think may be a bug. Hopefully it will be useful in addition to searching the Archives. Michael The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While many of you are dealing with the vagaries of WIN10 conversion, I finally upgraded to 8.1. I’ll wait 6 months until I attempt 10. I think TMG came on successfully but I have one glaring glitch that deals with saved Family Group reports that were created on Word 97-2003. When I try to open them I am told “A table in this document has become corrupted.” Neither I nor a number of experienced 8.1 users can follow Word’s suggestion to “open and repair” since we can’t find the toggle that brings us to it. If I create a new Family Group report it too is corrupted. However, if I attach a “corrupted” report to an email to a user of an older version of Word, it can be opened just fine. When they send it back to me, it is corrupted. It does not appear other types of reports are infected. Any thoughts? Is this a WORD problem or a TMG problem? PWH

Hi, The source type to use really depends on the form of that dispensation. Is it: -- A document held in a personal collection -- A document held by a church -- A register held by a church -- A microfilm image -- A digital image (online) Is it: -- A formal certificate -- A manuscript -- A letter I can't help much more without additional information. Feel free to contact me on or off-list. Almost all the sources that I use I created myself, based on Evidence Explained (now 3rd ed.) since I wasn't satisfied with the built-in sources in tmg. Brian brian.gross@pacbell.net -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John and Lee Wood via Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:43 PM To: TMG Subject: [TMG] How to cite a Catholic Dispensation I have just run across a dispensation by a Roman Catholic Bishop in Quebec who legitimized the births of three children born out of wedlock. This is the only proof of the children's births that I have. Anyone have any ideas what kind of TMG source type I can use to cite this evidence? Thanks, John Wood The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just run across a dispensation by a Roman Catholic Bishop in Quebec who legitimized the births of three children born out of wedlock. This is the only proof of the children's births that I have. Anyone have any ideas what kind of TMG source type I can use to cite this evidence? Thanks, John Wood

Thanks Donald, That's exactly what I wanted. Must be the senior years catching up with me. Ron Family Researcher research@stonehouse.ca www.stonehouse.ca -----Original Message----- From: Donald W. Range [mailto:deranger2@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:37 AM To: Family Researcher <research@stonehouse.ca>; tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [TMG] Empty Date Field in Tag Entry screen The tags associated with an individual will fall into several "tag groups," primarily relationship tags, name tags, and event tags. Event tags include births, deaths, marriages, etc. (I'm ignoring the address and history tag groups which I doubt are relevant to your question). Relationship tags don't have dates. To find the event tags with no date run a List of Events report with the filter Date ... Is Empty ... END and include Prin 1 ID and Prin 2 ID among the output columns in report options. A similar report for List of Names will find the undated names, which may be most of your names since primary names are typically undated. -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Family Researcher via Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 7:51 AM To: TMG List Subject: [TMG] Empty Date Field in Tag Entry screen Morning List Can someone tell me if it is possible and more so how to produce a list of individuals where the date field in the tag entry is empty?

On 8/10/2015 2:12 PM, Robert Hartman via wrote: > I have not made new TAG since V9, and I have a problem with a error > message "The role variable [RF:with Parents] either has the role name > misspelled or the role does not exist." > I have been trying to create a 1850 US Census TAG like Terry's to > replace the current TAG that I'm using. > I have set up the following role: Principal, one Son, one Daughter, > RF:with Parents, RF:with Father, RF:with Mother, and Witness. (Role were > copy from the the sentence to New Role form.) Robert, It looks like the problem is with the names of the Roles. I think you made the Role name "RF:with Parents" when it should be just "with Parents" - the variable you will use is [RF:with Parents] - but the Role itself is named just "with Parents." In addition to being more complicated then needed, I suppose the reason if fails is that the colon is an illegal character in the name. > I have copy from Terry's Web page to notepad, (to lose any HTML code) > then to TMG TAG. Is there a reason you didn't just download them and avoid the issues with creating them? Terry

Thanks Terry I knew it was an error on my part, but I could not see what I was doing wrong. I had not read the page in detail, and I missed the download part. Robert On 8/10/2015 2:31 PM, Terry Reigel via wrote: > On 8/10/2015 2:12 PM, Robert Hartman via wrote: > Parents" - the variable you will use is [RF:with Parents] - but the > Role itself is named just "with Parents." In addition to being more > complicated then needed, I suppose the reason if fails is that the > colon is an illegal character in the name. > Is there a reason you didn't just download them and avoid the issues > with creating them? > > Terry >

Morning List Can someone tell me if it is possible and more so how to produce a list of individuals where the date field in the tag entry is empty? Thanks Family Researcher research@stonehouse.ca<mailto:research@stonehouse.ca> www.stonehouse.ca<http://www.stonehouse.ca/>