On 8/15/15 12:57 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber via wrote: > Running any database intensive application of a device based > on Flash memory is going to be horrendously slow, as any edits will > tend to require fetching a whole page of memory, updating the > contents, ERASING the page in Flash, then re-flashing the page with > the modified contents. Erasing flash forces all bits in the page to > "1"; writing data to flash, OTOH, can only convert "1" bits to "0" > bits. Since Flash has a limited number of erase/write cycles, you > could rapidly wear out the flash -- and the entire device (unless it > supports putting the user data on a removable card). > Flash based devices are faster than disk based devices, and modern flash has a reasonable wear time. My own person computer and work computer have had their hard disk replaced with "Flash Devices" (Solid State Disks). I would expect that most phones and tablets use similar grade flash for their memory. Now one thing that will slow things down is replacing RAM with flash (or Hard disk), and Phones and Tablets typically have a lot less RAM than your typical desk top, but an application like TMG isn't really that big as most of the data is off in the database, and not needed to be brought into ram until needed. -- Richard Damon

At 8/15/2015 14:18, you wrote: >The project vs dataset question reminds me of a question of my own. > >My main project (which has several data sets) has my own family. However, >over the years I've also created a project for one of my friends and a >project that contains many of my friends, with their birthdays and >miscellaneous data. > >I've kept the friend projects separate because I've never intended to share >them with family, whereas I occasionally do send my brother a backup file >of the family project. > >Can I add the friend projects to my family project (simplifying sourcing) >but keep them out of backups of the family dataset(s)? Yes, you can merge project A with project B (or vice versa). This means that the merged project will have two data sets (or more depending on how many data sets were in the original projects). However, I don't believe that you understand that each data set is _completely_ separate from all other data sets in the project. For example, Source ID# 1 in data set 1 will not be the same as Source ID#1 in data set 2. Now Source ID#1:1 may happen to be a letter dated 2/23/1956 to Mary Smith and Source ID#2:1 may also happen to be the same --- but they are not the same Source insofar as TMG is concerned. Further, Source ID# 2:3 cannot be used in a Source Citation for an Tag in data set 1. Think of a project as a file cabinet with each drawer being a data set. You can insert a Family Group Sheet (FGS) into drawer 1, but it can't be placed in drawer 2 at the same time. Of course, you can photocopy that FGS and place the copy into drawer 2, but they are separate pieces of paper. In the same was for TMG, the same data may be in two or more data sets, but all are different pieces of data even if they happen to read the same. The advantage of having multiple data sets is the convenience of viewing them together if desired and the ability to copy or move data from one data set to another. I will often keep client data sets with my main data sets for the convenience that affords. But, there are times when I will move the client data set to a separate project. This is usually in preparation for extensive work with that data set and maybe others, preparation for sharing with another researcher/the client, etc. In such cases, the original data set is deleted from the original project and will likely never be seen there again as this is one of the last operations with that client's data. Lee Hoffman/KY

Thanks, Terry. That's what I needed to know. I'm pretty familiar with having multiple data sets in one project (data to clean before adding, etc) but have done little with separate projects. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Terry Reigel via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > On 8/15/2015 2:18 PM, Karla Huebner via wrote: > > Can I add the friend projects to my family project (simplifying sourcing) > > but keep them out of backups of the family dataset(s)? > Karla, > > No. If you move the data set in your "friend" project to your family > project it will be included in backups. > > Terry Reigel > >

At 8/15/2015 04:31, John Hanson wrote: >I run a large one-name study which is currently predominately UK based. The >odd entries in there for the USA are were someone has migrated in recent >years. The current database contains in excess of 26,000 people > >I have been working separately on a new set of data in Family Historian, I >find it much easier to add people quickly there as you can use drag and drop >on a chart to add people. This file contains the over 2,500 people descended >from the earliest Halstead that arrived in the US in the 1640's. > >I want to import this file ultimately into the main TMG database but thought >that it would be easier to import it into a separate TMG project first. The >problem then is how to compare the two to see where the duplicates might be. >I then realised that I can add a separate dataset into the existing project >and I am struggling to understand exactly how it works. > >Can someone give me some simple pointers. > >If I have it as a separate dataset in the existing project can I easily >import it into the master dataset? Any import into TMG must be into a new data set. That new data set could be in an existing project _or_ in a new project. Since a data sets in a project is completely separate from any other data set in that project, it really makes no difference (except person preference) as to which way an import is done. With an import into an existing project, a step would be saved of merging project _if_ that is anticipated. The Data Set Manager of a project allows a data set to be enabled or disabled. If a data set is disabled, all data (persons, sources, repositories, exhibits, etc.) in that data set are effectively hidden and cannot be seen or manipulated in any way until such time as that data set is enabled. With this in mind, if I were planning to import data into TMG with the aim of eventually merging that data into an existing data set, I would import into the project containing the proposed target data set. I could then enable/disable the data sets that are/are not of interest as I had need _or_ I could simply have them all enabled to see all the data. I do this often with client data sets in my main project because if is not unusual for me to have someone in my main data set that is also in the client data set. I can then easily copy from one data set to the other as I have need. (I can also _move_ person(s) from one data set to the other - but I _usually_ prefer copying as that is less hazardous to the original data set). TMG Help has good discussions of both copying & moving persons between data sets. Having said all this, it really comes down to personal preference. Importing into an existing project may save a few keystrokes (the later merging of projects) but that really is not that big a deal if one feels safer. Having multiple projects does mean that the data from one data set (in say project A) cannot be easily compared with data from a data set in project B. Of course, one can do this by having two instances of TMG open, so this isn;t really a big disadvantage either. So, really, flip a coin and tip it toward the way you feel more compfortable. Lee

At 03:52 AM 8/15/2015, Jeanette Hartnack via wrote: >Hello fellow TMG users. > > > >I am hoping someone on the list can help me through a problem I've >encountered in the last few days. I have the Gold UK edition, version 9.05, >and I am also using Windows 10. > > > >When launching TMG I get a Program Error which says: > > > > File access is denied > > c:\users\user\documents\the master genealogist v9\log >s\_programstartlog.log. > <SNIP > > >I have attempted to repair the program by running the program installer for >v 9.5 (tmg9uksetup.exe) as an administrator. I've also uninstalled and >reinstalled the program, but still get the same program error messages. > > > >I am really concerned about it! > > > >Please - would anyone have any ideas on what could be happening here and >what to do to fix it? I would be very grateful for any help anyone can give. Off-hand, the ownership and protections of your USER data files were changed in the Win10 upgrade. Reinstall/Repair only affects the executable program (which should have been in C:\program files (x86)\something ), not user data files. Out of curiousity -- do you actually log into that machine with a user name of "user"? That's what the file paths are claiming. If so, my suggestion would be to navigate to the c:\users\user directory, right click the "documents" icon (may display as "my documents"), select Properties. Step 1: click the [] Read-only box until it is not shaded or check-marked, then hit [Apply] and respond yes to all the following pop-ups. If TMG still gives the error, you may have to return to the properties page and pick the Security tab, pick your user account, and if you don't have all permissions, pick the [Edit] button... Select the user account (again), then [X] the boxes in the allow column (typically everything except the last "special" box need to be selected). Note: this step may need to be performed on each layer of files and directories. -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

At 02:52 AM 8/15/2015, JEH via wrote: >Kathryn > >Looking at the Gedview website it appears to only run on Apple >phones/tablets. I need an app that will run on the Windows Phone OS. I'm >hoping that an upgrade to Windows10 for phones might actually allow TMG to >run when that OS is released. Unlikely unless the embedded Win10 includes an emulator for Intel processors. Most devices (phones, tablets) are using some version of ARM based processor -- completely different instruction set. Yes, M$ may be bragging about being able to do development for phones, tablets, desktops using one Win10 API set... But that basically means the source code is common, but the executables are built based upon the target device (using a form of the .NET "managed environment" development tools -- Visual Studio Visual BASIC .NET, C#, maybe C++ in "managed" mode, not native. "managed" in this case being something like Java's system, where there is an underlying native specific runtime supporting one developer view). Heck, just read the current reviews of how disappointing the Win10 on Rasp-Pi turns out to be. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/21/first_look_windows_10_iot_core_on_raspberry_pi_2/ (does claim native Win32 apps can run, but I suspect very slowly). http://hackaday.com/2015/08/13/raspberry-pi-and-windows-10-iot-core-a-huge-letdown/ Running any database intensive application of a device based on Flash memory is going to be horrendously slow, as any edits will tend to require fetching a whole page of memory, updating the contents, ERASING the page in Flash, then re-flashing the page with the modified contents. Erasing flash forces all bits in the page to "1"; writing data to flash, OTOH, can only convert "1" bits to "0" bits. Since Flash has a limited number of erase/write cycles, you could rapidly wear out the flash -- and the entire device (unless it supports putting the user data on a removable card). -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

I had the same problem. I think there might have been a Win patch. Run TMG as administrator and those errors stopped. Later some more Win patches were applied and the problem went away. It also shut down Norton and turned off my wiFi. Don't know if they were all related, but spent a few hours yesterday with these problems. Look for Windows updates. bob On 8/15/2015 3:52 AM, Jeanette Hartnack via wrote: > Hello fellow TMG users. > > > > I am hoping someone on the list can help me through a problem I've > encountered in the last few days. I have the Gold UK edition, version 9.05, > and I am also using Windows 10. > > > > When launching TMG I get a Program Error which says: > > > > File access is denied > > c:\users\user\documents\the master genealogist v9\log > s\_programstartlog.log. > > > > The only way I can get the program to continue on is to select 'Ignore'. > > > > When the 'Welcome Window' appears I can select the last file used, but then > I get the following error message: > > > > File access is denied c:\users\userdocuments\the master > genealogist v9\logs\registercontrol.log. > > 13 TMGAPPOBJ.MOCX > > > > Again, if I select 'Ignore', the program proceeds to open my 'last file > used'. > > > > However, from here on, I can't generate reports or perform a backup > successfully. I have not attempted any data entry since this problem > started, so I do not know if the error affects this. > > > > I have attempted to repair the program by running the program installer for > v 9.5 (tmg9uksetup.exe) as an administrator. I've also uninstalled and > reinstalled the program, but still get the same program error messages. > > > > I am really concerned about it! > > > > Please - would anyone have any ideas on what could be happening here and > what to do to fix it? I would be very grateful for any help anyone can give. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeanette Hartnack > > > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Bob Geldart > Maynard, MA > > Searching: Geldart/Gildart, Venti, Willcutt, Besaw, Bubar, Maynard

The project vs dataset question reminds me of a question of my own. My main project (which has several data sets) has my own family. However, over the years I've also created a project for one of my friends and a project that contains many of my friends, with their birthdays and miscellaneous data. I've kept the friend projects separate because I've never intended to share them with family, whereas I occasionally do send my brother a backup file of the family project. Can I add the friend projects to my family project (simplifying sourcing) but keep them out of backups of the family dataset(s)? Karla On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Lee Hoffman/KY via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > At 8/15/2015 04:31, John Hanson wrote: > > > > > >If I have it as a separate dataset in the existing project can I easily > >import it into the master dataset? > > Any import into TMG must be into a new data set. That new data set > could be in an existing project _or_ in a new project. Since a data > sets in a project is completely separate from any other data set in > that project, it really makes no difference (except person > preference) as to which way an import is done. > > [...] > With this in mind, if I were planning to import data into TMG with > the aim of eventually merging that data into an existing data set, I > would import into the project containing the proposed target data > set. I could then enable/disable the data sets that are/are not of > interest as I had need _or_ I could simply have them all enabled to > see all the data. I do this often with client data sets in my main > project because if is not unusual for me to have someone in my main > data set that is also in the client data set. I can then easily copy > from one data set to the other as I have need. (I can also _move_ > person(s) from one data set to the other - but I _usually_ prefer > copying as that is less hazardous to the original data set). TMG > Help has good discussions of both copying & moving persons between data > sets. > > >

I run a large one-name study which is currently predominately UK based. The odd entries in there for the USA are were someone has migrated in recent years. The current database contains in excess of 26,000 people I have been working separately on a new set of data in Family Historian, I find it much easier to add people quickly there as you can use drag and drop on a chart to add people. This file contains the over 2,500 people descended from the earliest Halstead that arrived in the US in the 1640's. I want to import this file ultimately into the main TMG database but thought that it would be easier to import it into a separate TMG project first. The problem then is how to compare the two to see where the duplicates might be. I then realised that I can add a separate dataset into the existing project and I am struggling to understand exactly how it works. Can someone give me some simple pointers. If I have it as a separate dataset in the existing project can I easily import it into the master dataset? Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk

Kathryn Looking at the Gedview website it appears to only run on Apple phones/tablets. I need an app that will run on the Windows Phone OS. I'm hoping that an upgrade to Windows10 for phones might actually allow TMG to run when that OS is released. JohnH > -----Original Message----- > From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of kathryn via > Sent: 15 August 2015 02:25 > To: tmg@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TMG] GedStar for android > > John, > > I use Gedview on my iPhone and iPad. You cannot make changes in the > app, it is only a viewer. Very handy if I do not have my laptop with > me. > > Kathryn > >

On 8/14/2015 8:20 PM, Patt Ricketts via wrote: > I have a toolbar button to close the project. This closes the project but > not TMG. > > I then go to Second Site or even the Utility to do what I need. > > Then back to TMG where I have a second button to open my main project. This > is a different but than the one on the left of the screen. This button is > set to open a specific project so I don't have to enter a name. > Patt, I do the same thing and find it very handy. However, be aware that after certain operations TMG fails to close all the files when you use the Close Project command, which causes an error when you try to run Second Site. When that happens you have to close TMG totally and run the Make Site command in Second Site again. Terry Reigel

Richard, You can start SS via a TMG menu entry, but if you do so while you have the TMG project open in TMG, you'll get an error when opening your SDF file in SS. That would seem to defeat the convenience of starting SS that way. John

Hi Terry, Thanks for the advice. I've been using this method since the close command was introduce in v8 and can't remember that happening. But thanks for the heads up. Patt On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Terry Reigel via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > On 8/14/2015 8:20 PM, Patt Ricketts via wrote: > > > I have a toolbar button to close the project. This closes the project but > > not TMG. > > > > I then go to Second Site or even the Utility to do what I need. > > > > Then back to TMG where I have a second button to open my main project. > This > > is a different but than the one on the left of the screen. This button is > > set to open a specific project so I don't have to enter a name. > > > > Patt, > > I do the same thing and find it very handy. However, be aware that after > certain operations TMG fails to close all the files when you use the Close > Project command, which causes an error when you try to run Second Site. > When that happens you have to close TMG totally and run the Make Site > command in Second Site again. > > Terry Reigel > > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patt Ricketts www.jackandpatt.com

On 8/14/15 12:44 PM, Arthur Lewis via wrote: > A few years back I recollect entering a code in the TMG toolbar which > enabled me to switch between TMG and SS without switching off TMG. This was > a significant time saver when editing SS. > > > > Can someone please tell me whether that device is still available and where > I can find it? I am using TMG v.9.05 and SS v. 5.3, Build 03. > > > > Arthur Lewis As John said, running SS and TMG on the same database is discouraged and can lead to problems. That said, the way to do something like this would be to add SS as an "External Utility" (Bottom of the Tool Menu). You add items by editing the APP.ini file in your data directory (see the help file for details). -- Richard Damon

Thank you for your prompt reply John. I take your comments on board and will leave things well alone. I manage to make enough errors myself without adding another possible source! Thanks for your guidance. Regards Arthur Sent from my iPad > On 14 Aug 2015, at 18:05, John Cardinal via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Arthur Lewis wrote: >> A few years back I recollect entering a code in the TMG toolbar which >> enabled me to switch between TMG and SS without switching off TMG. This >> was a significant time saver when editing SS. >> >> Can someone please tell me whether that device is still available and >> where I can find it? I am using TMG v.9.05 and SS v. 5.3, Build 03. > > Arthur, > > I am not aware of any such code or switch. > > Using TMG and Second Site at the same time can lead to errors. I recommend > against it, and if you encounter any errors while doing so, please do not > contact me about it. > > You can trick SS into operating while using TMG. If you start SS first, and > open the SDF file, you can then start TMG and open the project. You can > operate that way as long as you do not try to make the site while TMG has > the project open. > > Why do you need SS and TMG open at the same time? It's very useful to have > TMG open while browsing the _site_ made by SS, but SS does not have to be > running to browse a site it has made. > > John > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I use Gedview on my iPhone and iPad. You cannot make changes in the app, it is only a viewer. Very handy if I do not have my laptop with me. Kathryn JEH via wrote: > I've used Gedstar since it was released and previously as Gedpalm (I think). > Firstly on my Palm devices and subsequently on two Android phones and my > Nexus7 tablet. It's just what I need when popping in to the library or local > archives. It's the one "app" I miss now that I have a windows phone. > > JohnH > >

A few years back I recollect entering a code in the TMG toolbar which enabled me to switch between TMG and SS without switching off TMG. This was a significant time saver when editing SS. Can someone please tell me whether that device is still available and where I can find it? I am using TMG v.9.05 and SS v. 5.3, Build 03. Arthur Lewis

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Arthur Lewis via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > A few years back I recollect entering a code in the TMG toolbar which > enabled me to switch between TMG and SS without switching off TMG. This was > a significant time saver when editing SS. > > > > Can someone please tell me whether that device is still available and where > I can find it? I am using TMG v.9.05 and SS v. 5.3, Build 03. > > > > Arthur Lewis > Arthur, I have a toolbar button to close the project. This closes the project but not TMG. I then go to Second Site or even the Utility to do what I need. Then back to TMG where I have a second button to open my main project. This is a different but than the one on the left of the screen. This button is set to open a specific project so I don't have to enter a name. Patt -- Patt Ricketts www.jackandpatt.com

A big thank you to everyone who responded. 9891 families have just got a second home - in my tablet. Had some bumps along the way - but it is working. Thank you, thank you, thank you. gypsy -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gypsy via Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 8:41 AM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] GedStar for android Has anyone on here used the software Gedstar for android operating systems? Would to take my info with me on my tablet. Any thoughts? Thanks. Gypsy The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've used Gedstar since it was released and previously as Gedpalm (I think). Firstly on my Palm devices and subsequently on two Android phones and my Nexus7 tablet. It's just what I need when popping in to the library or local archives. It's the one "app" I miss now that I have a windows phone. JohnH > -----Original Message----- > From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of gypsy via > Sent: 14 August 2015 13:41 > To: tmg@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TMG] GedStar for android > > Has anyone on here used the software Gedstar for android operating > systems? > > Would to take my info with me on my tablet. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks. > > Gypsy > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message