Joan, the Data_paths.txt file is not needed if you use TMG's default file locations. For those of us who don't, it's a way of making the change. For more information, read the TMG Help topics: Data File Storage Data File Storage for Advanced Users Customizing Data File Storage Rick Van Dusen On 8/26/2015 5:42 PM, Joan Lince wrote: > This seems related to a problem I have posted about, but still haven't found > an answer. I do have preferences set to show the Welcome screen. > In my case, the Welcome screen has the option Open the Last Project grayed > out, and I have to manually select My Project. I also am unable to access > the help files. This began happening a few weeks ago after I uninstalled and > reinstalled the latest TMG v9.04. All my path preferences are set to the > correct default places, which worked fine before the uninstall. > I'm not using a Data_Paths.txt file -- in fact I don't even know what that > is. > > I really would appreciate any suggestions for fixing this. The lack of > ability to access help files is especially a problem. > > Joan Lince

My cousin reports that when he clicks on the TMG9 desktop icon, TMG opens with the Select Backup dialog, and shows backups in the User>My Documents>The Master Genealogist v9>Backups path. He has set Preferences (in all possible places) to point to data in D:\TMG9. (He is NOT using a Data_Paths.txt file because we haven't been able to determine his correct paths for Shared Program Data Files or User Program Data Files, since the issue is complicated by his use of the Catalan version of Windows 7.) He'd like to at least get back to where TMG opens to the Welcome Window. Any ideas? Rick Van Dusen

This problem has appeared recently. I cannot find a permanent fix. Loading TMG, the Tag Box shows 'Filtered' in red. On examining File>Preferences>Tag Box 'Show non-primary events' is not ticked. I then tick 'Show n.p. events', Apply>OK, then for the session 'Filtered' is not evident. On shutting down, then reloading TMG, 'Filtered' re-appears, and I have to repeat the above sequence to clear the problem. I have been using TMG for years, and never experienced the problem before. Helpful suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Pat Dunbar

Silly Ques. Did you move the slider down, until till you see the GED vers 5.5 and select??? Or was it not there at all?? Kay On 26/08/2015 9:45 AM, Steve Seiple via wrote: > I am using the latest version of TMG. While I have used the program for a > long time, it has been quite awhile since I tried to import any data. > Recently, I tried to import a GEDCOM file but couldn't get past the first > step. When I try to import into TMG the only file type choices that appear > on the import menu are .tmg files and .sqz files. No other file types, >

If you go to the Irfanview site http://www.irfanview.com/ and use the download link there it takes you to cnet.com and there is no problems with that site. Not associated with Irfanview just a long term happy user. Graeme Simpson > > I attempted to download Irfanview thru File Forum (Editors's > Pick), but big red warning page came on when I hit download: "The > Site Ahead contains Harmful Programs. Attackers on > fileforum.betanews.com might attempt to trick you into installing > programs that harm your browsing experience"...... > > > >Last time I tried to download it I got the same warning. Given the >issues with malware included in some other freeware programs, I decided >it was probably a real warning and didn't make the download.

Pat Dunbar reported: > Loading TMG, the Tag Box shows 'Filtered' in red. > On examining File>Preferences>Tag Box 'Show non-primary events' > is not ticked. I then tick 'Show n.p. events', Apply>OK Karen McKellar also reported: > I have the same problem. While you can check for filters in File>Preferences>Tag Box I generally find it easier to RIGHT click in the tag area and select the menu choice of "Filter for ...". That will show all four of the possible tag box filters at once, and any or all of them can be turned off right there. > On shutting down, then reloading TMG, 'Filtered' re-appears... I also suspect Terry Reigel has the right idea: > I suspect the filter has been saved as part of your Layout. > After fixing the filter, try saving your Layout. You should probably save the Layout after fixing the filter whether done from Preferences or from the right click menu. Hope this helps, Michael

Coming late to this, but I have copied relevant information as text and pasted it into the Supplemental tab of the Source. Then deleted the email. BTW, I used to use Eudora and loved it because I could edit the emails and Subject lines and save them as a thread. My current Thunderbird is a great program but I cannot edit anything in it, and I miss that capability. Bob On 8/20/2015 7:50 PM, Terry Phelan via wrote: > Hi all, > I've decided to go through my Emails and delete as many as I could since I have over 700 now. LOL. Probably 500 are Emails from distant cousins that I wrote to when I discovered them and they responded with a plethora of info about their families. I added their info into TMG and cited the Email with date, sender and recipient info, etc. In paring down, I 've decided that I certainly do not want to print out hard copies and then delete the Emails since I do not want all that paperwork. In many cases, I don't have this info anywhere else so I have to cite a particular Email. I think I just really want to cite and delete the Email. > I am single, and my nieces and nephews are not interested in genealogy nor would they ever read 500 Emails from strangers discussing family info if I kept the Emails. Is it irresponsible of me to use the source and delete it when it is the only proof of new people, their data and info about their families? If these were conversations that we had, the source would have no hard copy to back it up. Or even the source Personal Knowledge has no hard copy back up. > AOL only allows me to archive these Emails in AOL mail so I can't even copy or move them to a personal file on my computer. I'm not sure if I want all this data anymore. I'm on overload with trying to be the family recorder and much of this is from very distant relatives. I already have two file cabinets at my house with birth, marriage, and death certs (paper copies) of my closer relatives. I have also scanned these and put them in my computer file. Too many papers! > What are your thoughts on keeping these Emails of every person you've ever researched because it is now a source in TMG? > Thanks, Terry > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Brenda Geldart BGeldart@verizon.net

I have the same problem. Have not made any changes to computer or software. Karen -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patrick R. L. Dunbar via Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:37 AM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Tag Box Problem This problem has appeared recently. I cannot find a permanent fix. Loading TMG, the Tag Box shows 'Filtered' in red. On examining File>Preferences>Tag Box 'Show non-primary events' is not ticked. I then tick 'Show n.p. events', Apply>OK, then for the session 'Filtered' is not evident. On shutting down, then reloading TMG, 'Filtered' re-appears, and I have to repeat the above sequence to clear the problem. I have been using TMG for years, and never experienced the problem before. Helpful suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Pat Dunbar The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 8/26/2015 7:37 AM, Patrick R. L. Dunbar via wrote: > This problem has appeared recently. I cannot find a permanent fix. > > Loading TMG, the Tag Box shows 'Filtered' in red. > > On examining File>Preferences>Tag Box 'Show non-primary events' is not > ticked. > > I then tick 'Show n.p. events', Apply>OK, then for the session > 'Filtered' is not evident. > > On shutting down, then reloading TMG, 'Filtered' re-appears, and I have > to repeat the above sequence to clear the problem. > > I have been using TMG for years, and never experienced the problem before. > > Helpful suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Pat, I suspect the filter has been saved as part of your Layout. After fixing the filter, try saving your Layout. I think that will fix the problem. Terry Reigel

I do the research for a fairly large one-name study and realised a couple of years ago that having a source similar to the ones that you are talking of wasn't necessarily going to work as I was getting into detailed electronic conversations with people and I would end up with lots of "email from xxx dated yyyy" for the same person. That is when I came up with the solution I now use which is to copy every message both from and to the person into a single word document with the most recent at the top. These are then saved on the same external harddrive as all the rest of the research. Each is saved in a separate folder which is named after the person Smith-John. Within that folder there are other folder with copies of anything that I have sent them as well as ones with the data that they have sent me. Addition I also still save the email correspondence. One of the advantages of using the full version of MS Outlook, and one that many don't realise is there, is that you can save your messages into not only different folders but that you can have more than one PST file (that is the file extension used by Outlook to save all your messages. Again the messages are save by the name of the person. I come from the old school in computing of trying to save the trees. With over 3,000 certificates, many only in digital form and in total over 45 GB of data I hate to think of how many trees I would need. Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Taryn L. Phelan via Sent: 25 August 2015 18:12 To: Christopher Gray Cc: <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Organizing and Editing Sources. In particular, Emails. Delete or Keep? I am playing around with everyone's suggestions about saving or deleting Emails as sources. What are the pros and cons to saving them as PDF's or downloading Irfanview and saving as JPG? Out of 500+ Emails, maybe 20 have two pages. The rest are mostly one page. I attempted to download Irfanview thru File Forum (Editors's Pick), but big red warning page came on when I hit download: "The Site Ahead contains Harmful Programs. Attackers on fileforum.betanews.com might attempt to trick you into installing programs that harm your browsing experience"...... Terry > On Aug 21, 2015, at 3:03 AM, Christopher Gray <Christopher.Gray@gray-ons.org> wrote: > > Good morning Terry, > > I would print as a PDF and keep it as an exhibit. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Terry Phelan via > Sent: 21 August 2015 00:50 > To: tmg@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TMG] Organizing and Editing Sources. In particular, Emails. > Delete or Keep? > > Hi all, > I've decided to go through my Emails and delete as many as I could > since I have over 700 now. LOL. Probably 500 are Emails from distant > cousins that I wrote to when I discovered them and they responded with > a plethora of info about their families. I added their info into TMG > and cited the Email with date, sender and recipient info, etc. In > paring down, I 've decided that I certainly do not want to print out > hard copies and then delete the Emails since I do not want all that > paperwork. In many cases, I don't have this info anywhere else so I > have to cite a particular Email. I think I just really want to cite and delete the Email. > I am single, and my nieces and nephews are not interested in > genealogy nor would they ever read 500 Emails from strangers > discussing family info if I kept the Emails. Is it irresponsible of me > to use the source and delete it when it is the only proof of new > people, their data and info about their families? If these were > conversations that we had, the source would have no hard copy to back > it up. Or even the source Personal Knowledge has no hard copy back up. > AOL only allows me to archive these Emails in AOL mail so I can't > even copy or move them to a personal file on my computer. I'm not sure > if I want all this data anymore. I'm on overload with trying to be the > family recorder and much of this is from very distant relatives. I > already have two file cabinets at my house with birth, marriage, and > death certs (paper copies) of my closer relatives. I have also scanned > these and put them in my computer file. Too many papers! > What are your thoughts on keeping these Emails of every person > you've ever researched because it is now a source in TMG? > Thanks, Terry > > > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 01:11 PM 8/25/2015, Taryn L. Phelan via wrote: >I am playing around with everyone's suggestions about saving or >deleting Emails as sources. > What are the pros and cons to saving them as PDF's or > downloading Irfanview and saving as JPG? Besides using up MORE disk space? Unless you routinely use emails with embedded graphics, saving them as plain text should be the most efficient and portable format (you can cut&paste the text -- can't do that with a "screen grab" which is what JPEG would constitute). This message (prior to adding this and following paragraph, and stripping the rest of your comments) makes a 4kB TXT file, or a 4kB RTF file. Exporting the RTF from Word as a PDF generated a 53kB file. Granted M$ Word probably stuffs a lot of boilerplate (and maybe the font file too) in there, and then tries to compress the data. Pity I've never managed to get the Corel PDF Fusion program to work properly (all I manage to get working is the manipulation of PDF files to combine or split them -- no file converter seems to work, nor does the supposed PDF printer module). Loading the 2-page PDF into Photoshop (where it comes in at 300PPI print resolution) and saving as a quality 10 (out of 12) JPEG resulted in the FIRST PAGE ONLY consuming 722kB. -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

Good to know, Terry. Thanks! Terry > On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Terry Reigel via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> On 8/25/2015 1:11 PM, Taryn L. Phelan via wrote: >> I am playing around with everyone's suggestions about saving or deleting Emails as sources. >> What are the pros and cons to saving them as PDF's or downloading Irfanview and saving as JPG? >> Out of 500+ Emails, maybe 20 have two pages. The rest are mostly one page. >> I attempted to download Irfanview thru File Forum (Editors's Pick), but big red warning page came on when I hit download: "The Site Ahead contains Harmful Programs. Attackers on fileforum.betanews.com might attempt to trick you into installing programs that harm your browsing experience"...... > Terry, > > Last time I tried to download it I got the same warning. Given the > issues with malware included in some other freeware programs, I decided > it was probably a real warning and didn't make the download. > > Terry Reigel > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am using the latest version of TMG. While I have used the program for a long time, it has been quite awhile since I tried to import any data. Recently, I tried to import a GEDCOM file but couldn't get past the first step. When I try to import into TMG the only file type choices that appear on the import menu are .tmg files and .sqz files. No other file types, including GEDCOM, are listed even though I know they are supposed to be. Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening? Thanks in advance! Steve Seiple

For some reason two databases I have - both created at gedcoms - have only the individual dbf files - no .ged or .pjc extenders. How can I open these databases In TMG and get them into .pjc status? Thanks! Alice Eichholz Sent from the iPad of Alice Eichholz, Ph.D., CG

A pro for .PDF is that if you ever want to change back to an editable text document there are free (and also costly) software programs that can convert a .PDF but I don't know of any that can convert a .jpg to editable text. Jerry Fillebrown RUFTR -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Taryn L. Phelan via Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:12 PM To: Christopher Gray Cc: <tmg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TMG] Organizing and Editing Sources. In particular, Emails. Delete or Keep? I am playing around with everyone's suggestions about saving or deleting Emails as sources. What are the pros and cons to saving them as PDF's or downloading Irfanview and saving as JPG? Out of 500+ Emails, maybe 20 have two pages. The rest are mostly one page. I attempted to download Irfanview thru File Forum (Editors's Pick), but big red warning page came on when I hit download: "The Site Ahead contains Harmful Programs. Attackers on fileforum.betanews.com might attempt to trick you into installing programs that harm your browsing experience"...... Terry > On Aug 21, 2015, at 3:03 AM, Christopher Gray <Christopher.Gray@gray-ons.org> wrote: > > Good morning Terry, > > I would print as a PDF and keep it as an exhibit. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Terry Phelan via > Sent: 21 August 2015 00:50 > To: tmg@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TMG] Organizing and Editing Sources. In particular, Emails. > Delete or Keep? > > Hi all, > I've decided to go through my Emails and delete as many as I could > since I have over 700 now. LOL. Probably 500 are Emails from distant > cousins that I wrote to when I discovered them and they responded with > a plethora of info about their families. I added their info into TMG > and cited the Email with date, sender and recipient info, etc. In > paring down, I 've decided that I certainly do not want to print out > hard copies and then delete the Emails since I do not want all that > paperwork. In many cases, I don't have this info anywhere else so I > have to cite a particular Email. I think I just really want to cite and delete the Email. > I am single, and my nieces and nephews are not interested in > genealogy nor would they ever read 500 Emails from strangers > discussing family info if I kept the Emails. Is it irresponsible of me > to use the source and delete it when it is the only proof of new > people, their data and info about their families? If these were > conversations that we had, the source would have no hard copy to back > it up. Or even the source Personal Knowledge has no hard copy back up. > AOL only allows me to archive these Emails in AOL mail so I can't > even copy or move them to a personal file on my computer. I'm not sure > if I want all this data anymore. I'm on overload with trying to be the > family recorder and much of this is from very distant relatives. I > already have two file cabinets at my house with birth, marriage, and > death certs (paper copies) of my closer relatives. I have also scanned > these and put them in my computer file. Too many papers! > What are your thoughts on keeping these Emails of every person > you've ever researched because it is now a source in TMG? > Thanks, Terry > > > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> What are the pros and cons to saving them (e-mails) as PDF's or downloading Irfanview and saving as JPG? I have not used Irfanview. Saving as a PDF (for example by printing to a PDF) means you are independent of the number of pages. I use it because it is straight forward when using the Microsoft Outlook mail client. My challenge is how to name it. I use "e-mail_date_author_title" - e.g. "e-mail_20150824T1856_Fred-Smith_re Grays of Wales" - the date/time being that given in the e-mail. This allows me to quickly find what I want. The only thing I need to look out for are characters in the title that cannot be used in file names. The reason I put "e-mail" at the front is to differentiate from other image types - e.g. "Probate", "Will", etc. Chris

On 8/25/2015 1:11 PM, Taryn L. Phelan via wrote: > I am playing around with everyone's suggestions about saving or deleting Emails as sources. > What are the pros and cons to saving them as PDF's or downloading Irfanview and saving as JPG? > Out of 500+ Emails, maybe 20 have two pages. The rest are mostly one page. > I attempted to download Irfanview thru File Forum (Editors's Pick), but big red warning page came on when I hit download: "The Site Ahead contains Harmful Programs. Attackers on fileforum.betanews.com might attempt to trick you into installing programs that harm your browsing experience"...... > Terry, Last time I tried to download it I got the same warning. Given the issues with malware included in some other freeware programs, I decided it was probably a real warning and didn't make the download. Terry Reigel

Taryn, Any emails that contain text only should probably be saved as text. You can store the text in the Comments field of the associated TMG source (if any), or in standalone text files, or both. John

I agree about the value of sub-folder structures within the email client (although this won't work for Terry, I don't think, with AOL). This can be done, with multiple levels of sub-folders, in at least Outlook, Outlook Express (if anyone is still using it), and Thunderbird. Further, Outlook and Thunderbird can be archived (exported) into a variety of industry-standard or proprietary file formats. With Thunderbird, use of the add-on ImportExportTools provides a vast selection of alternatives. But this strays from Terry's problem (although I hope it'll help others). For Terry, I agree with John that for plain-text/text-only messages, capturing the text itself is what counts*. I realize it's a lot of work, but in the long run I think the copy-and-paste-to-text-file will be the most useful. Rick Van Dusen ---------------------------- * Note on source content: There are three kinds of sources I can think of: 1. Documents which have intrinsic value, such as awards, maybe birth or baptism certificates, certainly photos. One would wish to keep the original document if possible or an image of it. 2. Documents which contain factual content which is of intrinsic interest, where what is written, the way it's written, is important, such as 3g-grandmother's account of pioneer life, some newspaper articles, etc. One would wish to keep a copy of the text itself; an image adds nothing of value. 3. Documents which contain data of import/interest, such as Census records. One need only record the data itself; neither the full text nor the image adds value. (Of course, any of these requires a full citation.) On 8/25/2015 3:36 PM, John Hanson via wrote: : : : > Addition I also still save the email correspondence. One of the advantages > of using the full version of MS Outlook, and one that many don't realise is > there, is that you can save your messages into not only different folders > but that you can have more than one PST file (that is the file extension > used by Outlook to save all your messages. Again the messages are save by > the name of the person. > > I come from the old school in computing of trying to save the trees. With > over 3,000 certificates, many only in digital form and in total over 45 GB > of data I hate to think of how many trees I would need. > > Regards > John Hanson

Thanks, Lee. Good to know that's probably a false warning. Hhhhhmmm... I think PDF is starting to look like the way to go. I have never attached an exhibit to a source and I don't think it will matter to me when printing out charts. But, I wonder how that might show up in SS. Would there be a camera icon next to the source that one clicks on? That would be cool! I like that. Thank you, Lee! Terry > On Aug 25, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY <azchief@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > At 8/25/2015 13:11, Taryn L. Phelan wrote: >> I am playing around with everyone's suggestions about saving or deleting Emails as sources. >> What are the pros and cons to saving them as PDF's or downloading Irfanview and saving as JPG? >> Out of 500+ Emails, maybe 20 have two pages. The rest are mostly one page. > > Personally, I would save them as PDF -- especially if you can put them into just one or a few (maybe by topic or family line) files. Either way, you could create Exhibits for them and attach the Exihibit to the Source that cites it. > >> I attempted to download Irfanview thru File Forum (Editors's Pick), but big red warning page came on when I hit download: "The Site Ahead contains Harmful Programs. Attackers on fileforum.betanews.com might attempt to trick you into installing programs that harm your browsing experience"...... > > I expect that is a false warning and probably depends on setti9ngs in your anti-virus software. If you go to <http://www.irfanview.com> and click on Download, you can select from a bunch of download sites. I like the TUCOWS site myself. If you still get the warning, just ignore it. > > Lee >