Yes, the Windows path length limit is 256 characters - see my original message - (or technically 260 with driveletter:\ and a null character at the end). In Windows 7, my path is D:\Users\username\Documents\The Master Genealogist v9\Configuration_files\. I make that 75 before the filename, leaving plenty before hitting 260. Tony On 30/09/2015 20:50, Rick Van Dusen via wrote: > There's also, I believe, a Windows limit on the overall path length. > With a path such as the default > C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents\The Master Genealogist v9 > leave relatively little room for a filename. > > On 9/30/2015 6:28 AM, Tony via wrote: >> Yes, I agree that's the default. However, you can expand the window >> horizontally and enlarge it as much as your display allows. >> >> >> On 30/09/2015 14:01, Lee Hoffman/KY wrote: >>> Note that the field >>> in which the Configuration Name is displayed on the Report >>> Definition Screen is only about 58-60 characters long (anything >>> longer would not be seen).

At 07:57 AM 9/30/2015, Tony via wrote: >I've been struggling today with a new List of People report that was >failing to give the Screen Preview output before setting a flag. I tried >restarting TMG, rebooting the PC, and resetting the report definition - >none of which helped. > >It was then a surprise when I re-created the report but named it just >"LoP test" and found that it worked. I then added a new report based on >the working one but with a configuration name closer to my previous >(long) name and found it failed again. A comparison of the contents of >the report definition file showed that they were identical. > >So I thought I'd play with the length of the configuration name (which >is all alphabetic) and found that a character length up to and including >55 worked, but 56 upwards failed. At 80 characters, there were >catastrophic error messages as well, so I didn't go there again. How far down the directory tree are your files? https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365247%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#maxpath -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

Tony reported: > I've been struggling today with a new List of People report > that was failing to give the Screen Preview output... > I re-created the report but named it just "LoP test" > and found that it worked... > Is this a known bug or a new one? It is a new one, Tony. Thanks for reporting it. I have tested this and confirmed the bug, but it appears to be limited to having the Report Destination as Screen Preview. Report configuration names up to and including 59 characters work. I found that report configuration names of length 60 or more work when the Report Destination was to a File type such as Word or RTF. But, as you reported, these longer names fail to produce output if the Report Destination is Screen Preview. The workaround, as you discovered, is shorter names; or don't use Screen Preview for long-named configurations. I have added this behaviour to my Outstanding Bugs list. See: http://www.mjh-nm.net/BUGS.HTML#B93 Michael

Yes, I agree that's the default. However, you can expand the window horizontally and enlarge it as much as your display allows. Tony On 30/09/2015 14:01, Lee Hoffman/KY wrote: > Note that the field > in which the Configuration Name is displayed on the Report > Definition Screen is only about 58-60 characters long (anything > longer would not be seen).

Heh, I wish it had been that easy. If you have report output suppressed, you see a warning in the Report Destination part of the definition screen. Tony On 30/09/2015 14:05, Terry Reigel via wrote: > That's because the "Suppress Output to screen, File, or Printer" box is > checked on the Secondary Output tab of Report Options.

I've been struggling today with a new List of People report that was failing to give the Screen Preview output before setting a flag. I tried restarting TMG, rebooting the PC, and resetting the report definition - none of which helped. It was then a surprise when I re-created the report but named it just "LoP test" and found that it worked. I then added a new report based on the working one but with a configuration name closer to my previous (long) name and found it failed again. A comparison of the contents of the report definition file showed that they were identical. So I thought I'd play with the length of the configuration name (which is all alphabetic) and found that a character length up to and including 55 worked, but 56 upwards failed. At 80 characters, there were catastrophic error messages as well, so I didn't go there again. I shall just have to be less verbose in my report naming system! I realise the failing number of characters may be different depending on other factors I haven't fully investigated, e.g. the path length of the Configuration_files folder, although mine is the TMG9 default, albeit on my D: drive, and my username is only 8 characters long; my configuration name limit of 55 added to that folder path length gets me to around 128, which may be significant, even though the Windows 7 maximum path length including filename is 256. I'm running TMG v9.05 on Windows 7 64-bit. Is this a known bug or a new one? -- Tony

There's also, I believe, a Windows limit on the overall path length. With a path such as the default C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents\The Master Genealogist v9 leave relatively little room for a filename. Rick Van Dusen On 9/30/2015 6:28 AM, Tony via wrote: > Yes, I agree that's the default. However, you can expand the window > horizontally and enlarge it as much as your display allows. > > Tony > > On 30/09/2015 14:01, Lee Hoffman/KY wrote: >> Note that the field >> in which the Configuration Name is displayed on the Report >> Definition Screen is only about 58-60 characters long (anything >> longer would not be seen). > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 9/30/2015 7:57 AM, Tony via wrote: > I've been struggling today with a new List of People report that was > failing to give the Screen Preview output before setting a flag. I tried > restarting TMG, rebooting the PC, and resetting the report definition - > none of which helped. Tony, That's because the "Suppress Output to screen, File, or Printer" box is checked on the Secondary Output tab of Report Options. Terry Reigel

At 9/30/2015 07:57, you wrote: >So I thought I'd play with the length of the configuration name (which >is all alphabetic) and found that a character length up to and including >55 worked, but 56 upwards failed. At 80 characters, there were >catastrophic error messages as well, so I didn't go there again. > >I shall just have to be less verbose in my report naming system! I >realise the failing number of characters may be different depending on >other factors I haven't fully investigated, e.g. the path length of the >Configuration_files folder, although mine is the TMG9 default, albeit on >my D: drive, and my username is only 8 characters long; my configuration >name limit of 55 added to that folder path length gets me to around 128, >which may be significant, even though the Windows 7 maximum path length >including filename is 256. > >I'm running TMG v9.05 on Windows 7 64-bit. > >Is this a known bug or a new one? To my knowledge, you are the first to try such a long entry. But, it really is not a bug (although I am surprised at the results as much as you). It is more of a design issue. The Report Definition Configuration Name was never planned to be long. Note that the field in which the Configuration Name is displayed on the Report Definition Screen is only about 58-60 characters long (anything longer would not be seen). Since it is only for the user, it was deemed to be long enough. In fact, earlier versions (v4 and before) only allowed about 40 characters. Insofar as the effect of having a "too long" Configuration Name, I am surprised and would have thought that anything more than design length would have been ignored, truncated to the display field length, displayed an error message, or bother the last two. My guess is that it was never expected that something that long would be exceeded. And I doubt that any beta tester tried a long Configuration Name. Lee

robin lamacraft via wrote: >Denis, >The inbuilt maximum page size in all the versions of Word that I have >used is 22" square, so Word cannot produce an A3 page (23.4" * 16.5"). That is A2. I regularly produce large documents in Publisher, but have to tile them for printing. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK chris@cdixon.me.uk Plant amazing Acers.

Denis, The inbuilt maximum page size in all the versions of Word that I have used is 22" square, so Word cannot produce an A3 page (23.4" * 16.5"). This is not printer/plotter dependent. Robin On 29/09/2015 10:22 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber via wrote: > At 08:34 PM 9/28/2015, robin lamacraft wrote: >> Dennis, >> >> The EMF output in VCF is broken. Save a file and nothing seems to be >> able to display it correctly. > Hmmm... Surprising... The normally unusable "Paint" program > provided on my Win7 Pro is able to properly open a fan chart produced > via TMG8/VCF (and just duplicated using TMG9 -- I haven't done > anything with 9 yet and still need to configure my preferred > layout)... But Photoshop CS4 gives an error about "not the right kind > of document" (even though EMF is in the list of file types) > > I was going to try my old Illustrator CS2 -- but it seems > Adobe shut-down the registration server for that version, and it > won't let me run it in "trial mode". > > M$ Word 2013 was able to load the EMF file. > > Hmmm -- Seems Photoshop can't open the EMF files I generated > using R graphics functions either. It may not be a VCF fault, but > something at a lower level of the OS that is (normal for M$) > violating the documented specifications for EMF. > > Granted -- one also needs to have a printer with large > format capability selected to set the page size even in Word. > -- > bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber > HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Robin Lamacraft, Adelaide, Australia

At 06:30 PM 9/29/2015, robin lamacraft wrote: >Denis, >The inbuilt maximum page size in all the versions of Word that I >have used is 22" square, so Word cannot produce an A3 page (23.4" * 16.5"). >This is not printer/plotter dependent. >Robin I just created a 17x34" page in Publisher 2013... And imported (actually, drag&drop) that fan chart EMF I'd created this morning. Granted, I don't know if I can PRINT it in one piece without having a driver for some large format printer installed. However... EXPORT to PDF (not a PDF printer, Office 2013, and maybe 2010, have PDF as an "export" format) generated a file that Adobe Reader X says is 17x34 (per the "properties" page). Heck... I just created a 44x68" page -- large enough that the fan chart could be scaled up to fit the width, and the PDF says it is 44x68" in Reader. Finally something that M$ Publisher is good for <G> -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

Gayle Keaney wondered about dates on files: > when I overwrite a gedcom the "date modified' on > the gedcom does not change to the date of the latest version. You do not indicate, Gayle, but I am "assuming" that this "date modified" is what is shown by Windows for that gedcom file? That date would be when the export was run to create that file and would have little to do with a "version" of either the project or the program. First, have you refreshed your Windows file list following overwriting the file? Second, double check that the folder listed on Step 2 of the TMG Export Wizard is pointing to the same Windows folder where you are checking the date. It may be that you are storing your new gedcom in a different folder than where you think. > Also while the date on the 'Report Ouput' folder changes to the > current date, the date on the Word file does not change... and the > dates of the gedcom file & the word file are not the same. Again, it is not clear what dates you are looking at. Also it is unclear what relationship a Word file has to a gedcom file. The first is created by running a report and the second by doing an export. They would each show the dates of those actions, which may have no relationship to each other. Similar to the gedcom export, double check that the output folder for the report to a Word document in the Report Definition Screen when you run the report is the one where you are checking the date. Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

Dennis, The EMF output in VCF is broken. Save a file and nothing seems to be able to display it correctly. The BMP output is based on 96dpi images there is a tendency for characters to have staircases. JPG is alright for small charts, but again looses definition on straight edges. Using a PDF pseudo printer (e.g. PDF995, etc) is the only effective method of external printing for charts up to 200" * 200". VCF files used in machine can plot to plotter with VCF installed are limited by the plotter driver. Robin On 29/09/2015 9:25 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber via wrote: > At 10:22 AM 9/28/2015, Lee Hoffman/KY via wrote: >> At 9/28/2015 08:35, you wrote: >>> Having used only Chartform Delivery for scores of large charts over the >>> years - what are my options now for producing seamless 24" or 36" wide >>> charts for clients? > <SNIP> > >> You have sent the raw file (.VC2) before. The copy shops can't >> handle this. But you can do a File=>Export from Visual ChartForm to >> JPEG (JPG), Bitmap (BMP), or Enhance Meta Files (EMF) format. Most >> copy shops can handle JPG, but they may prefer something else. > Of those choices, I'd probably recommend EMF. EMF should > (I'd hope WG didn't generate a bitmap in memory and then create an > EMF from that) be capable of vector graphics, whereas JPEG and BMP > are both bitmap/pixel graphics. Vector graphics should permit better > printouts with smaller files (especially if the JPG/BMP are anywhere > near PRINT resolution -- which I consider 300PPI for color, 600PPI > for B/W line art) > -- > bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber > HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Robin Lamacraft, Adelaide, Australia

Hello.... I am wondering.... ?when I overwrite a gedcom the "date modified' on ?the gedcom does not change to the date of the latest version. Also while the date on the 'Report Ouput' folder changes to the current date, the date on the Word file does not change... and the dates of the gedcom file & the word file are not the same. thanks Gayle Keaney

At 08:34 PM 9/28/2015, robin lamacraft wrote: >Dennis, > >The EMF output in VCF is broken. Save a file and nothing seems to be >able to display it correctly. Hmmm... Surprising... The normally unusable "Paint" program provided on my Win7 Pro is able to properly open a fan chart produced via TMG8/VCF (and just duplicated using TMG9 -- I haven't done anything with 9 yet and still need to configure my preferred layout)... But Photoshop CS4 gives an error about "not the right kind of document" (even though EMF is in the list of file types) I was going to try my old Illustrator CS2 -- but it seems Adobe shut-down the registration server for that version, and it won't let me run it in "trial mode". M$ Word 2013 was able to load the EMF file. Hmmm -- Seems Photoshop can't open the EMF files I generated using R graphics functions either. It may not be a VCF fault, but something at a lower level of the OS that is (normal for M$) violating the documented specifications for EMF. Granted -- one also needs to have a printer with large format capability selected to set the page size even in Word. -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

Thank you Terry, much appreciated. Delia Robertson -----Original Message----- From: Terry Reigel [mailto:treigel@charter.net] On 9/28/2015 2:27 AM, Delia Robertson via wrote: > TMG has suddenly started asking for a license code on launch - which I > purchased and installed correctly before Bob Velke discontinued > development/support. I have a copy on my laptop and one on my desktop. > > Any suggestions, please? Delia, See http://tmg.reigelridge.com/new-computer-version.htm#unlock Terry Reigel

I make great looking box pedigree charts with VCF by just setting up the chart and exporting to a jpg. Put it on a flash drive and take to your local Office Depot or Staples. They print beautifully. You may have to experiment with who has the best or most versatile large format printers in your area, but the sizes are set in the program. The printers can print up to 24 or 36 inches wide (depending on printer) and as long as necessary. And it's not expensive. This won't help if you want colored paper, but it works for me. Kaye > On Sep 28, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Sandy Clunies via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Having used only Chartform Delivery for scores of large charts over the > years - what are my options now for producing seamless 24" or 36" wide > charts for clients? > > > > --Sandy Clunies > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I enter a Variable-Name with the date of the reference (first, occurrence, or between first and last or death). Bob On 9/27/2015 2:36 PM, Mary Jo Gatti via wrote: > Hi, > In data entry, I’m trying to decide how to add “Dr.” to a person’s name. He wasn’t a doctor at birth so I can’t add it to his name. > Is there a way to add the title only after her receives his doctorate but not before? > Thanks, > Mary Jo > > > -- > Bob Geldart > Maynard, MA > <BGeldart@verizon.net>

At 10:22 AM 9/28/2015, Lee Hoffman/KY via wrote: >At 9/28/2015 08:35, you wrote: > >Having used only Chartform Delivery for scores of large charts over the > >years - what are my options now for producing seamless 24" or 36" wide > >charts for clients? <SNIP> >You have sent the raw file (.VC2) before. The copy shops can't >handle this. But you can do a File=>Export from Visual ChartForm to >JPEG (JPG), Bitmap (BMP), or Enhance Meta Files (EMF) format. Most >copy shops can handle JPG, but they may prefer something else. Of those choices, I'd probably recommend EMF. EMF should (I'd hope WG didn't generate a bitmap in memory and then create an EMF from that) be capable of vector graphics, whereas JPEG and BMP are both bitmap/pixel graphics. Vector graphics should permit better printouts with smaller files (especially if the JPG/BMP are anywhere near PRINT resolution -- which I consider 300PPI for color, 600PPI for B/W line art) -- bieber.genealogy@earthlink.net Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/