I upgraded last week through TMG's "Help" "check for updates" - an automatic download and installation. Today at: http://www.whollygenes.com/upgrades.htm#tmggold I downloaded V9 gold and ran the repair file successfully. Thank you for taking your time to help. Katherine AZ -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael J. Hannah via Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 8:23 AM To: TMG-L submission address Subject: Re: [TMG] repair mode TMG v9 Katherine Short wondered: > After upgrading to v9.05 the [v904] disk doesn't work as it tells me I > have a later version installed and won't open to the screen where I > can select "Repair". Katherine, I assume you downloaded the v9.05 installer to do the upgrade. Don't use the CD for V9.04. You need to find that v9.05 installer file on your disk and run it. That should then allow you to run Repair. Michael The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning. Scotlands People are allowing free access to the indexes of the 1855 Valuation Rolls for a limited time, so I played there then spent a few credits for two records confirming plus more than I knew. Has anyone created special tags for these rolls or do they have a generic one for rates? I am off to figure out a tag called VR Roll. I would be interested in knowing how others have done this. Hope others have some success in this new resource. Kay

Katherine Short wondered: > After upgrading to v9.05 the [v904] disk doesn't work > as it tells me I have a later version installed and > won't open to the screen where I can select "Repair". Katherine, I assume you downloaded the v9.05 installer to do the upgrade. Don't use the CD for V9.04. You need to find that v9.05 installer file on your disk and run it. That should then allow you to run Repair. Michael

Lorna responded to Garry about Retrieving Messages: >> In preferences>Startup and exit >> set check for messages to 0 days I suggest now that TMG is no longer being developed, this is probably an appropriate setting for all users. Michael

Very nice--much like what I have but I can already see one change I need to make on my Occupier-Tenant role memo placement, as you are showing me a taste of what I'll get when I buy some credits and look at the full data! On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Kay & John (Bill) Sturgeon OAM < forty8ers@bigpond.com> wrote: > Thanks Karla, for your input. > > I have made an interim tag & source so at least it is recorded. > > This is what I created, a very simple lumper for use with other years in > the address tag group. > > [P] <was|and [PO] were>listed <on the [D]> Valuation Roll <at [L]>. > <[M]> My sentence reading. > > Robert Wilkie was listed on the 1855 Valuation Roll at 258 Argyle Street, > Glasgow, LKS, Scotland. He tenanted and occupied a shop owned by Alexander > Broom's Trustees per D. (David) Keltie of 43 Maitland Street. The umbrella > shop incurred a yearly rent and value of 38/-. > > As I only have two items so far, this will do the trick ATM. > > Kay > > > > > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

For Occupier-Tenant, I created a role in Residence. I'm at a different computer right now, but 1855 was in the year. For Owner, I already had a tag for owning property, so I used that and have not added a new role. However, I haven't yet bought any credits to unlock further exciting details, so my investigation and tags could be considered preliminary. On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Kay & John Sturgeon OAM via < tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good morning. > > Scotlands People are allowing free access to the indexes of the 1855 > Valuation Rolls for a limited time, so I played there then spent a few > credits for two records confirming plus more than I knew. > > Has anyone created special tags for these rolls or do they have a > generic one for rates? I am off to figure out a tag called VR Roll. I > would be interested in knowing how others have done this. > > Hope others have some success in this new resource. > > Kay > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

My TMG v9.04 after "not responding" shutdown has never opened in repair mode. I've been using the disk to repair. After upgrading to v9.05 the disk doesn't work as it tells me I have a later version installed and won't open to the screen where I can select "Repair". Any suggestions? Thank you, Katherine AZ

As the self-appointed resident GEDCOM guru <grin> I thought I would "chime in" with some comments and explanations. Tami Dola originally asked: > It appears in a GEDCOM that a person can have 2 family records FAMS > or FAMC. Can that family # ever change or will it always be the same? FAMS and FAMC are entries which point to a FAM record by use of the FAM record number. FAMS and FAMC are entries within an individual's record. FAMS is the "spouse record to family record" pointer, and FAMC the "child record to family record" pointer. There is no requirement in the standard for a program exporting a GEDCOM file to use the same FAM number for a given family each time it creates such a file. I have found that seldom occurs. Usually programs simply number the FAM records in the file from 1 to N. So if a file now contains different or more families, a given FAM number is likely to be used for a different family than had it in a different file. Next Martin Barker wondered: > the GEDCOM 5.5 standard ...seems to indicate that there can be > zero to multiple FAMC records... Wouldn't this allow for > the recording of birth and adopted families? A constraint of GEDCOM in this area is that a FAM record may only have one HUSB pointer and one WIFE pointer but may have multiple CHIL pointers. The HUSB and WIFE entries must point to individuals with matching FAMS pointers back to this FAM. Also HUSB and WIFE are assumed to be male and female respectively. Every individual who has a FAMC pointer to this FAM record is expected to have a CHIL pointer within the FAM record pointing back to that individual. The program creating a GEDCOM file is expected to enforce these constraints and syncronization. Yes, Martin, GEDCOM does define the capability for multiple FAMC records for an individual. This was designed specifically to record natural, adopted, fostered, or sealed (LDS) children of that family. GEDCOM also allows a FAMC entry to be subordinate to the adoption etc. event to indicate the family the individual belonged to at the time of that event. The FAMC entry provides an *optional* sub-entry of PEDI which has only four defined values: adopted, birth, foster, and sealing. Only the FAMC entry has the option to specify the linkage type, the matching CHIL entry does not. A FAMC without the optional sub-entry is always to be assumed to be of type birth. Thus GEDCOM does have a way to express four different "child to family" types of linkages if an exporting program chooses to use that mechanism. It is important to note that a FAMC links only to the FAM record, so that the type of FAMC linkage (e.g. birth) will automatically apply to both the HUSB and the WIFE of that family. I know of nothing in the standard which would prevent an individual having multiple FAMC records, even all type birth, pointing to different FAM records. But most exporting programs would likely impose constraints in this area, such as TMG's restriction of only creating FAMC records for the Primary parents. As I describe in my on-line document "TMG™ GEDCOM Export, Guide to Limitations and Issues", TMG does not use the PEDI sub-entry in its GEDCOM export. TMG also does not have a mechanism to indicate the family associated with a given event which would produce a FAMC entry subordinate to that event. While some other programs may use the PEDI sub-entry and may allow FAMC entries subordinate to events, I have not personally encountered any programs which do either. For TMG limitations in this area see the "Relationship Tags" section in my on-line document: http://www.mjh-nm.net/GED-EXPT.HTML#GedcomERelate Hope this helps explain things, Michael

Martin Barker wrote: > Wouldn't this allow for the recording of birth and > adopted families? Martin, Not by itself. You'd need a way to indicate the type of relationship. The easiest way to determine if TMG exports multiple FAMC records for a person is to do a test. I don't have time for that right now, but I'll do it over the next few days unless someone beats me to it. John

John, The copy of the GEDCOM 5.5 standard available at http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pmcbride/gedcom/55gcch2.htm#INDIVIDU AL_RECORD seems to indicate that there can be zero to multiple FAMC records +1 <<CHILD_TO_FAMILY_LINK>> {0:M} Wouldn't this allow for the recording of birth and adopted families? Martin

I found a Separation tag in the Divorce group, which, at least in my dataset, has no sentence. I have attempted to create a sentence but regardless of what I do it does not save that sentence. In the place whee the role is supposed to appear it continues to say "New Tag." What should I do? Chuck

Tami, FAMS and FAMC denote membership in a family. FAMS is used for husbands and wives (I believe the "S" is for "spouse"). FAMC is for children. If I recall correctly, TMG does not guarantee that the family number assigned to a family will be the same number on successive exports to a GEDCOM file. In a TMG GEDCOM file, a person may be a spouse in multiple families. I don't think they can be a child in multiple families, i.e., there will only be oneFAMC record for an individual. John

It appears in a GEDCOM that a person can have 2 family records FAMS or FAMC. Can that family # ever change or will it always be the same? Thanks, Tami

At 10/1/2015 13:54, you wrote: >What is curious is that the output for Print Preview creates an RTF file >in the user's Temp folder, not a file in the configuration folder. And >that file is created with a random 8-digit file name, not the name of >the configuration, so its pathname would be unaffected by the length of >the configuration name. So why only Print Preview has problems is a >mystery. Strange, but definately a bug. Why should it be curious that the Temp folder is used for the _temporary_ output of Print Preview? The Configuration folder is used to hold the Report Definitions and other files used to configure TMG output. If a report is saved (i.e., output to a file) it is placed in the Report_Output folder. Since it isn't saved, it goes in the Temp folder along with many other temporary files that TMG creates -- and, after closing the preview, is auto-deleted from the Temp folder. This is MicroSoft's plan for the Tmp folder, and if any files are left in the folder past a Windows session, it is know that they can be deleted without causing problems. Lee Lee

At 10/1/2015 12:03, you wrote: >Thanks Lee and Bob for your suggestions. It's doable but sounds a >bit complicated and might be easier to edit the Journal Report Adding a non-Primary Name Tag with a Date (or just Sort Date) would be about the same complexity as editing the Journal report. The question is how often will you be need to edit the Journal report. If it is more than once or maybe twice then you are wasting time as adding the Name Tag is just done once. Lee

Thanks Lee and Bob for your suggestions. It’s doable but sounds a bit complicated and might be easier to edit the Journal Report. MJ I enter a Variable-Name with the date of the reference (first, occurrence, or between first and last or death). Bob On 9/27/2015 2:36 PM, Mary Jo Gatti via wrote: > Hi, > In data entry, I?m trying to decide how to add ?Dr.? to a person?s name. He wasn?t a doctor at birth so I can?t add it to his name. > Is there a way to add the title only after her receives his doctorate but not before?

In reply to Tony's observations I mentioned: >> I have added this behaviour to my Outstanding Bugs list. See: >> http://www.mjh-nm.net/BUGS.HTML#B93 And Tony responded: > ... I feel it would be worth adding that the exact length > that causes the problem may depend on the *folder* path > length for the report configuration files as well. > Unless you've tested to the contrary, a path like > "D:\TMG9\Configuration_files\" may give a very different > result from my "D:\Users\username\Documents\The Master > Genealogist v9\Configuration_files\" You are probably right as I have not tested changing the length of my full pathname. However, my testing did observe that the long-named temporary backup of the configuration file in that folder is successfully used when the Report Destination is to a file. > Your observation of problems at 60+ is already different > from my tests giving problems at 56+. Good point. That does imply the full pathname is likely an issue, not just the configuration name itself. I will update the Bug comment later after I get a chance to do some more testing. What is curious is that the output for Print Preview creates an RTF file in the user's Temp folder, not a file in the configuration folder. And that file is created with a random 8-digit file name, not the name of the configuration, so its pathname would be unaffected by the length of the configuration name. So why only Print Preview has problems is a mystery. Strange, but definately a bug. Michael

Mary Jo Gatti first asked: > In data entry, I’m trying to decide how to add “Dr.” to > a person’s name... Is there a way to add the title only > after he receives his doctorate but not before? Lee Hoffman and Rob Geldart responded with suggestions to add Name-Var tags. Mary Jo then replied: > Thanks Lee and Bob for your suggestions. > It’s doable but sounds a bit complicated... If you try a few, Mary Jo, I think you will find it is not complicated. And changing things once in TMG means not having to edit the report every time you produce a new version. But I would also suggest first deciding for that person which name (with or without the title) you wish to assign to the majority of event tags. Choosing which Name-Var to be Primary, and thereby used by default, will mean you minimize the number of event tags you need to edit to set to a different non-Primary name as described below. The steps to use Name-Var tags are as Lee mentioned: - Add a new Name-Var tag type which includes the title. This is in addition to the existing Name-Var tag which does not have the title. - Make this new Name-Var tag with title Primary *if* most of the event tags and output are to use the title. - One by one edit the event tags which should use a non-Primary name. You don't need to edit any event tags which should use the Primary name as they will use that by default. - Find where the person is linked to this tag. This will either be on the Tag Entry screen if they are a Principal, or on the the Edit witness screen if they are a Witness. Notice the field at the top to the far right of the person's name. By default it will indicate the tag will use the name currently assigned to this person as their "Primary name". Click on that field and it will drop down a list of all the name variations defined for this person. Just click on the desired non-Primary name in the list to select it to be used for this event tag. That is all there is to it. Do this once and the tags will use the desired name for all reports without need for post editing. (Of course whether the full name, or a part of the name, or a pronoun is used will depend on the variable for that subject in the sentence.) Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

On 01/10/2015 01:16, Dennis Lee Bieber via wrote: > How far down the directory tree are your files? > > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365247%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#maxpath Thanks, Dennis. Yes, I'm aware of MAX_PATH=260 (I checked the exact figure before my original post). My Windows 7 folder path for the configuration files is "D:\Users\username\Documents\The Master Genealogist v9\Configuration_files\", which is the TMG default except for changing to the D: drive. That's only 75 characters; adding the problem file length of 56 upwards, plus one for the nul character at the end of every path (as per your reference), still gives only 132. Hence, I don't think that's the cause of the problem. -- Tony

On 30/09/2015 21:55, Michael J. Hannah via wrote: > I have added this behaviour to my Outstanding Bugs list. See: > http://www.mjh-nm.net/BUGS.HTML#B93 Thanks for that useful description. I feel it would be worth adding that the exact length that causes the problem may depend on the *folder* path length for the report configuration files as well. Unless you've tested to the contrary, a path like "D:\TMG9\Configuration_files\" may give a very different result from my "D:\Users\username\Documents\The Master Genealogist v9\Configuration_files\" (my username being 8 characters). Your observation of problems at 60+ is already different from my tests giving problems at 56+.