On 06/10/2015 23:45, Michael J. Hannah via wrote: > Could you recheck and see if you also encounter errors with a > destination of Print Preview when the pathname is greater than 132 > characters, including the filename, but not including the trailing > period and extension name? Well, it's strange, after a recheck with my existing pathname and a re-count I still fail to produce a Screen Preview report with a configuration name longer than 55 characters and a folder pathname of 74 characters, giving 129 as my overall limit, not 132. To be specific: My folder pathname is "D:\Users\username\Documents\The Master Genealogist v9\Configuration_files\" (my username is indeed 8 characters), which totals 74 characters. (I've said 75 previously, but I think I was confused by the line wrap in my email). My maximum length configuration name is "lop set linexxx flag to y for descendants 34567890 2345", which is 55 characters. That one works in Screen Preview, but if I add a single extra character to the configuration name, it fails. To count reliably, I've pasted the folder pathname and the filename (from Windows Explorer) into Notepad and added a line underneath with a repeating 1234567890. If we're in agreement about the specifics of what we're counting, then I can't explain the discrepancy. OS? - mine is Win 7 Pro 64-bit. Many thanks, though, for continuing to maintain the Bugs List. It might be picky of me (apologies if you think so), but I wonder if it would help some users to give a couple of examples of typical User Data pathnames and the maximum length of configuration name that results (e.g. the TMG default for Vista onwards, and the shortest that seems common "C:\TMG9\"). Hmm, I hate to think what the limit is with the XP default. Tony

Thank you Terry for the excellent explanation and both you and Michael for the ideas. All very much appreciated. Have already managed a much better output than I had before. I've tried always to avoid roles because of the lack of compatibility with other software but I think I'll be going all in - now that I want to produce a book and journal ... right away :-) === Subject: Re: [TMG] Journal reports - "There was no issue of X and Y" Ann Carson wondered about the using the special NarrativeChildren tag: > I'm trying to create another Role for this tag, called Family, which > will enable me to include children who don't have a formal legal > relationship of any sort with the parents... > I'd like to have the full name of the relevant child appear... As Terry points out, this special NarrativeChildren tag only controls the output of the heading of this automatically produced list of children in the TMG Journal report. It provides no control over the details of the list itself. The only controls over the list contents are some Report Options. And as Terry points out, the list of children will only be children who have these parents as their Primary parents. Assuming you want to include non-Primary children, I agree with Terry that a straight-forward way doing that is to add the special NarrativeChildren tag to every parent with non-Primary children, and then linking these children as Witnesses to this special tag, probably with a custom role. Then the sentence output of this tag could first produce a heading with a simple list of these non-Primary children, followed by a normal heading for their Primary children. To give an example, if the children were linked with a role "NonPrim" you might have a sentence template for a role "Family" of: <[:TAB:]Unrelated children living as part of the family were [R+:NonPrim].[:CR:]>[:TAB:]The children of [P] <and [PO]> were as follows:[:NP:] You might also discover you need a second role of "FamilyNone" of: <[:TAB:]Unrelated children living as part of the family were [R+:NonPrim].[:CR:]>[:TAB:]There are currently no known children of [P] <and [PO]> The plus sign in the "NonPrim" role variable will ensure the output of their full Primary names. Again, there is no mechanism to include these non-Primary children within the automatically generated list of Primary children, and there is no mechanism or sentence variables to include any details (birth, death) of these non-Primary children. Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

On 10/6/2015 9:31 PM, Ann Carson wrote: > Thank you Terry for the excellent explanation and both you and Michael for > the ideas. All very much appreciated. You're welcome, Ann. > I've tried always to avoid roles because of the > lack of compatibility with other software but I think I'll be going all in - > Well, you've already crossed that bridge when you used the NarrativeChildren Tag. :-) Terry

Tony responded earlier: > ... I feel it would be worth adding that the exact length > that causes the problem may depend on the *folder* path... My testing now shows you are absolutely correct, Tony. After further testing I have found a length limit for the full pathname of 132 characters, including the filename, but not including the period and extension name. This is a familiar max character limit on PCs. I tested it by creating a short folder name at the root level, and changing the Preferences for the project to look for its configuration files in that folder. This allowed longer filenames up to the max full pathname limit. And using a longer pathname to a folder means less characters remaining for the filename. This max limit matches my earlier report of my filenames having a problem of 60+ when combined with the length of the pathname to my standard folder. I believe you reported earlier that your: > configuration name limit of 55 added to that folder path length > gets me to around 128... Could you recheck and see if you also encounter errors with a destination of Print Preview when the pathname is greater than 132 characters, including the filename, but not including the trailing period and extension name? I have updated the on-line Bug report to reflect my testing. http://www.mjh-nm.net/BUGS.HTML#B93 Since Print Preview doesn't use this long pathname for naming its temporary file I still find it curious that Print Preview seems to be the only destination which has a problem with that length. Oh well. Michael

The Roots Users Group "RUG" of Arlington, Virginia (the Washington, DC area TMG Users group) will meet on Saturday, October 10, 2015, from 9:00 am to 12:00 am (Eastern Daylight Time). 9:00 AM Session I: “AncestryDNA: Finding Cousins and Ancestors” Presenter: John Clark 10;15-10:30 Break 10:30-11:40 Session II: “AncestryDNA as a Source for Information in TMG” Presenter: John Clark 11:40 Questions - Persons who are unable to attend onsite may send their questions in advance to Paul Blackburn at programs@rootsusers.org<mailto:programs@rootsusers.org> or text them on Join.Me’s chat feature. All are invited to attend the meeting in person or join us online via Join.Me. Note: Our online meeting is open to everyone, not just members! JOIN.ME<http://join.me/> INSTRUCTIONS: Download the Join.Me App from the Join.Me website, https://www.join.me/apps by clicking the applicable mobile or desktop app. [NOTE: You do not need to pay & download the software or download the free trial to join the meeting! Just download one of the apps.] There is a Q&A page on the Join.Me site which can help if you are having difficulties. http://help.join.me/knowledgebase?_ga=1.36103592.986824069.1386516973. MEETING LOCATION: We still meet 'in person' in Northern Virginia near Tyson's Corner, about 2 miles inside the beltway (I-495) on Route 123. Members and guests are welcome! We meet in the newer building on the lower level. Trinity United Methodist Church (UMC) 1205 Dolley Madison Boulevard McLean, VA 22101-3019 For directions see our website: http://www.rootsusers.org/TrinityUMCLocation.html. Regards, Jan Janis Parkison Rodriguez VP Arlington RUG

> On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Roby.Jr@lists2.rootsweb.com wrote: > > The Roots Users Group "RUG" of Arlington, Virginia (the Washington, DC area TMG Users group) will meet on Saturday, September 12, 2015, > from 9:00 am to 12:00 am (Eastern Daylight Time). > > 9:00 AM Session I: “Working with Czech Records in TMG” Presenter: John Frank > 9:40-10:00 Break > 10:00-10:40 Session II: “Finding Records in the Czech Republic, A Special Case of Sudetenland” Presenter: Carol Traxler > 10:40-11:00 Break > 11:00-11:40 Session III: “Finding Your Czech Ancestors: Presenter: Stephen Ullrich > 11:40 Questions - Persons who are unable to attend onsite may send their questions in advance to Paul Blackburn at programs@rootsusers.org<mailto:programs@rootsusers.org> > > All are invited to attend the meeting in person or join us online via Join.Me. Note: Our online meeting is open to everyone, not just members! > > JOIN.ME<http://join.me/> INSTRUCTIONS: Download the Join.Me App from the Join.Me website, https://www.join.me/apps by clicking the applicable mobile or desktop app. [NOTE: You do not need to pay & download the software or download the free trial to join the meeting! Just download one of the apps.] There is a Q&A page on the Join.Me site which can help if you are having difficulties. http://help.join.me/knowledgebase?_ga=1.36103592.986824069.1386516973. > > MEETING LOCATION: We still meet 'in person' in Northern Virginia near Tyson's Corner, about 2 miles inside the beltway (I-495) on Route 123. Members and guests are welcome! We meet in the newer building on the lower level. > > Trinity United Methodist Church (UMC) > 1205 Dolley Madison Boulevard > McLean, VA 22101-3019 > > For directions see our website: http://www.rootsusers.org/TrinityUMCLocation.html. > > Regards, > Jan > > Janis Parkison Rodriguez > VP Arlington RUG > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Terry I'm now very happily using the NarrativeChildren tag. I'm trying to create another Role for this tag, called Family, which will enable me to include children who don't have a formal legal relationship of any sort with the parents To do this I'd like to have the full name of the relevant child appear (as his/her surname is generally different to the rest of the family). This is currently my sentence: [:TAB:]The family of [P] <and [PO]> included:[:NP:] I've tried using [NP - what does this stand for?] or [P] or [S] at the end but still get just 1st name/s. Can I get surnames in this sentence? The second problem is that if I do manage to have output with surnames I guess that will apply to all 'children' in this particular family, birth and any others. Can I make the NarrativeChildren tag apply to just one child? Thanks in advance Ann -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Reigel via Sent: Monday, 5 October 2015 4:31 AM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] Journal reports - "There was no issue of X and Y" On 10/4/2015 12:44 PM, Ann Carson via wrote: > In a journal report, is there any way I can stop TMG from including > the sentence "There was no issue of X and Y" (without creating a false > child) Ann, Yes, there is. You have to add a NarrativeChildren Tag for the couple. With it, you can either create an alternate statement that is correct or use the [:NONE:] variable to just suppress the statement. Details are in my article at http://tmg.reigelridge.com/NarrativeChildren.htm Terry Reigel The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think a big thing to keep in mind is that after installing (or reinstalling) TMG, go to the File menu > Preferences and make sure that your file paths are set correctly: Preferences > Program Options > General > Default Project Path Preferences > Current Project Options > Advanced ... And I usually select the Browse [...] button to select the folder rather than typing it in. Then run File Maintenance > Validate File Integrity > Search for Missing Files Specify Folders to Search Add the path to your Exhibit folder select Search in subfolders if you have any Many times we set or change file paths and forget to update them in Preferences. Bob On 10/5/2015 4:17 PM, Russell Dorr via wrote: > Thanks, Evelyn. That's a big help. My son-in-law is purchasing a new computer. He said it will have Win8 on it. He will upgrade to Win10. I will then copy over my regular files. I really don't have that much. I will need to install programs such as Skype, Adobe, Word (Office Suite) and my virus stuff (Norton, CCleaner, Malwarebytes). I have a subscription to Ring-a-Geek. They can probably help. > Bud -- Bob Geldart Maynard, MA Searching: Geldart/Gildart, Venti, Willcutt, Besaw, Bubar, Maynard

Russell - It helps when moving TMG files - or just using the program -to understand the TMG Data File Storage system. When it was first implemented in TMG several years ago I wrote an article explaining the system and listing what files are in each folder. This is a Word document which you can download. There may have been minor changes in files, but the 3-folder system remains the same. If anyone spots anything that should be updated, let me know. The link is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/txd6404mcwvmhip/tmg7dfs.doc?dl=0 Virginia On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Russell Dorr via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thanks, Evelyn. That's a big help. My son-in-law is purchasing a new computer. He said it will have Win8 on it. He will upgrade to Win10. I will then copy over my regular files. I really don't have that much. I will need to install programs such as Skype, Adobe, Word (Office Suite) and my virus stuff (Norton, CCleaner, Malwarebytes). I have a subscription to Ring-a-Geek. They can probably help. > Bud From: Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock via <tmg@rootsweb.com> > To: tmg@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: [TMG] New Computer > > > I think there is a big gap opening up between the experts and the busy but simple minded users who prefer to leave operating systems alone. > > > > I agree that one should read Terry's advice. But I think that there is a danger of over complicating the whole process. > > > I did do a couple of things wrong but they were rectified and explained to me by experts on the Wholly Genes Forum in the section on TMG 9 - I suggest that you read those threads. > > > You should have no need to worry about Windows 8 and 10. I bought a Windows 8 lap top. I copied the exe file to a stick, then to the new computer and installed TMG just as one would to any new computer. > > > Like you, I was anxious about the upgrade to Windows 10 and arranged to have professional help from my seller. There was no need. Microsoft are rolling out the upgrade. I registered for the upgrade (from the lap top in question) and then waited until I was notified that my turn had come. The upgrade reinstalled all my software including TMG 9 complete with its serial number and files. All the software was installed just as it had been in Windows 8. > > > > > As you can see from the threads on the Wholly Genes forum - there are three things that might go wrong. > > > First, your new installation may repeatedly forget its serial number. When you want to open the software after boot up you need to right click on the icon and select run as administrator. Then enter your user name and serial number which will then be remembered. There is a kind explanation of why you need to do this on the Wholly Genes forum. It is the result of added security on the later issues of Windows, ensuring that significant alterations are made only by someone who actually identifies themselves as the administrator for that session. > > > Next you may lose your custom settings for the TMG layout colours etc. etc. You need to transfer these by making a back up file ***.sqz that includes settings and data anbd then restoring it in TMG on your new computer. > > > I did nothing to change the settings on the new computer and made no attempt to reproduce the paths I had previously used in Windows 7 when moving to Windows 8. I have customised task bars and lay outs - and if you too have these, you will find the Wholly Genes forum has the guidance I was given for copying them to the new computer. Again I used a memory stick and pasted them into the directory which already held the TMG files of the same type. It is helpful if you set your Windows to show the file type extensions. The default is to hide them. > > The final glitch may affect backing up. It is a result of the new paths (file arrangements) on the new computer. You need to alter them for each project by going into the File / Current Project Preferences/ Advanced and clicking on the dots in the back up line. One is offered the same opportunity to make an alteration to the back up destination if one chooses to back up on exiting the Project - but doing it at that moment has no effect. You have to do it via the file menu. > > > I made no other alterations and it could well be that there will be some other details that need attention. > > > But my policy is to leave the new Windows (8 first and then 10) to arrange things in its own way, to let it install itself and not paste in whole new directories. May be it was because I accepted the defaults that the subsequent automised upgrade to Windows 10 was problem free. > > > Minor details of TMG installation are simple to rectify but fiddling about with the operating system is a different matter. I never made mirror images and dont understand what they are. I did however copy and or back up all my projects. If something does go really wrong, most modern computers have an option to return them to factory settings. > > > I hope this is helpful and will reassure you. > > > Evelyn Wilcock > > > Genealogy site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wilcock/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ann Carson wondered about the using the special NarrativeChildren tag: > I'm trying to create another Role for this tag, called Family, > which will enable me to include children who don't have a formal > legal relationship of any sort with the parents... > I'd like to have the full name of the relevant child appear... As Terry points out, this special NarrativeChildren tag only controls the output of the heading of this automatically produced list of children in the TMG Journal report. It provides no control over the details of the list itself. The only controls over the list contents are some Report Options. And as Terry points out, the list of children will only be children who have these parents as their Primary parents. Assuming you want to include non-Primary children, I agree with Terry that a straight-forward way doing that is to add the special NarrativeChildren tag to every parent with non-Primary children, and then linking these children as Witnesses to this special tag, probably with a custom role. Then the sentence output of this tag could first produce a heading with a simple list of these non-Primary children, followed by a normal heading for their Primary children. To give an example, if the children were linked with a role "NonPrim" you might have a sentence template for a role "Family" of: <[:TAB:]Unrelated children living as part of the family were [R+:NonPrim].[:CR:]>[:TAB:]The children of [P] <and [PO]> were as follows:[:NP:] You might also discover you need a second role of "FamilyNone" of: <[:TAB:]Unrelated children living as part of the family were [R+:NonPrim].[:CR:]>[:TAB:]There are currently no known children of [P] <and [PO]> The plus sign in the "NonPrim" role variable will ensure the output of their full Primary names. Again, there is no mechanism to include these non-Primary children within the automatically generated list of Primary children, and there is no mechanism or sentence variables to include any details (birth, death) of these non-Primary children. Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

On 10/6/"2015 12:10 AM, Ann Carson wrote: > Thanks to Terry I'm now very happily using the NarrativeChildren tag. You're welcome, Ann. > I'm trying to create another Role for this tag, called Family, which will > enable me to include children who don't have a formal legal relationship of > any sort with the parents > > To do this I'd like to have the full name of the relevant child appear (as > his/her surname is generally different to the rest of the family). This is > currently my sentence: > [:TAB:]The family of [P] <and [PO]> included:[:NP:] > > I've tried using [NP - what does this stand for?] or [P] or [S] at the end > but still get just 1st name/s. > > Can I get surnames in this sentence? > > The second problem is that if I do manage to have output with surnames I > guess that will apply to all 'children' in this particular family, birth and > any others. Can I make the NarrativeChildren tag apply to just one child? The NarrativeChildren Tag replaces the "children of X & Y were..." statement automatically generated by the Journal. So it applies to the parents, not to the children. the [:NP:] code means "No change to Punctuation," that is, don't "correct" the final punctuation supplied by the user. Without it, your final colon would be removed and replaced with a period. It has nothing to do with any of the other output of the Sentence. The [P] and [PO] variables, like in any Sentence, produce the names of the two Principals in the NarrativeChildren Tag, that is the parents. The NarrativeChildren Tag has noting to do with the list of children that follows (except for the [:NoBirthPlaces:] code that suppresses the birthplaces in the children's statements). That list is still generated by the Journal as usual. It includes all children for whom these parents are primary, and shows only their given names. I can think of a couple of ways to address your issue. The easiest is to include the [M] variable in your Sentence, and put something in the Memo field that explains. For example, you might say: "Jane and Sue were adopted, and continued to use the surname Smith" or something like that. You also build this into the Sentence by adding the adopted (or whatever) children as Witnesses and include something like this in the Sentence: <[WO] were adopted> which would put the full names in the output, although you would need a separate Role for only one adopted child. Be sure to put an exclusion mark in the Sentence of the Witnesses. Alternatively, you could not make the "parents" the primary parents of the unrelated children, and put the adopted or whatever children directly in the NarrativeChildren Tag. They would not then be directly in the list of children, but could be included in another format. For example, you could something like this, either in the Memo or the Sentence: "In addition to their biological children, there household included X and Y, who were adopted" In this construction, the names could either be typed into the Memo or Sentence exactly as they are to appear, or the children could be entered as Witnesses, optionally with custom Roles, and referred to by means of Role Variables. The wording of course would be customized to suit the family. If you want, the names of these children could be put on a separate line rather than the main one by adding [:CR:] and [:TAB:] codes. I don't think you could format them exactly like the list of children, but you could make them appear separately if you want. Terry Reigel

An easier way, perhaps, (and I have done this very successfully in the past to produce a great family calendar), is to use OTD's output to Outlook and then print the calendar from Outlook. Cheers Chris On 6 October 2015 at 00:42, John Cardinal via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Tom, > > "On This Day" (OTD) has a "Make Calendar for Year" feature that makes a > calendar in HTML. The output is not designed to be printed, and the program > doesn't offer a lot of control over the graphics. Also, the program was > written a long time ago, and the HTML is low-quality. Some of that was due > to the many issues with browsers back in 2001, including spotty support for > CSS, but also my lack of rigor creating the HTML. > > You can try using the HTML produced by OTD as a starting point, but you > will > have to edit some HTML to make progress. If you are going to pursue that > option, let me know. I will get you a version of the program that produces > better HTML/CSS. > > John >

Hi all As previously mentioned I've been creating lots of draft journal reports to send to family members. In doing this I've managed to fill my report output folder with hundreds of images, many duplicates. I think this is because I ticked 'Include external images and 'copy to destination folder', under Exhibits in Report Options. Is there any need for me to copy these images to the destination folder? My reports are in both pdf and Word format and lots to screen while I'm working. I email some of these reports but also post quite a few. I keep the drafts I've sent to people until they're replaced by a newer draft. If I delete these images in my report output folder will the draft reports still show them? I have so many the same that I can't test as I don't know exactly which one is connected to which version of a report. Thanks in advance Ann

Hi Chris, On Monday, October 5, 2015, 9:49:15 PM, you wrote: > An easier way, perhaps, (and I have done this very successfully in the past > to produce a great family calendar), is to use OTD's output to Outlook and > then print the calendar from Outlook. [snipped] Thanks, Chris. Another nice idea. Unfortunately I don't have Outlook so I won't be able to implement this myself but it might help and give ideas to others. It has made me wonder if another option would be to use Google Calendar. Meanwhile I have started trying out Susan's option 3 (TMG > Excel > Word) which seems to be going well so far. Copying and pasting into 365 days will keep me out of mischief for a while! Tom

Hi Tom Have you looked at John Cardinal's "On This Day" program? It works with TMG. Cheers Chris On 5 October 2015 at 21:02, Tom Piercy via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Has anyone got any tips for producing a printed calendar as a > Christmas gift showing ancestral BMDs from TMG data? > > It's not the actual printing I'm wondering about. There are plenty of > places to go for that - Vistaprint, Cafepress, local print shop, etc - > who will turn your PDF into a final print. It's getting the data out > of TMG into a editable print-ready format that I am wondering about. > > I appreciate that I can add the BMDs to each date by hand and that may > be the way I have to go, but it would be a long and painstaking task. > If there is a process whereby I can export my BMDs (or more likely a > sub-set from a TMG flag) as a text file to import directly into a > calendar template that would be a great time-saver. I know that Legacy > has this facility built-in and it may be more cost-effective to buy a > copy of Legacy, import from TMG, and print to a PDF or hard copy from > there. However, I am not sure how editable their report is - it > doesn't look very flexible and it would make to calendar much more > attractive to be able to add background or focus images. > > Knowing the inventiveness of members of the list I am sure that you > will have come up with more creative solutions. > > Any ideas, anyone? > > Thanks in advance! > > Tom > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Wright http://www.chriswright.id.au https://sites.google.com/site/wrightholidays/ http://coolgarra-trips.blogspot.com/

I bought a new Mac from the Apple store a couple of years ago. I took in my old Mac and they transferred everything for me by the next evening. Everything Including my TMG and Parallels. No extra charge; it was included in the cost of the computer. Marion Harcourt > > Okay, I'll admit I don't know what a drive image type backup is. ?But the ideas seem very?cogent. ?Can you use the Win8.1 and Win10 backup programs and a 1 TB extension drive? ?Would that do? From: Rick Van Dusen via <tmg@rootsweb.com> > > ...You should have no need to worry about Windows 8 and 10. I bought a Windows 8 lap top. I copied the exe file to a stick, then to the new computer and installed TMG just as one would to any new computer. > ... > Like you, I was anxious about the upgrade to Windows 10 and arranged to have professional help from my seller. There was no need. Microsoft are rolling out the upgrade. I registered for the upgrade (from the lap top in question) and then waited until I was notified that my turn had come. The upgrade reinstalled all my software including TMG 9 complete with its serial number and files. All the software was installed just as it had been in Windows 8. > ... > Twice over the years, I have used Laplink's PCMover software to move to > a new computer. This is a rather expensive program and you can use it > only once (except for further transfer from the same old computer to the > same new one), but it did it well.

Thanks, Evelyn.  That's a big help.  My son-in-law is purchasing a new computer.  He said it will have Win8 on it.  He will upgrade to Win10.  I will then copy over my regular files.  I really don't have that much.  I will need to install programs such as Skype, Adobe, Word (Office Suite) and my virus stuff (Norton, CCleaner, Malwarebytes).  I have a subscription to Ring-a-Geek.  They can probably help. Bud From: Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock via <tmg@rootsweb.com> To: tmg@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TMG] New Computer I think there is a big gap opening up between the experts and the busy but simple minded users who prefer to leave operating systems alone. I agree that one should read Terry's advice. But I think that there is a danger of over complicating the whole process. I did do a couple of things wrong but they were rectified and explained to me by experts on the Wholly Genes Forum in the section on TMG 9 - I suggest that you read those threads. You should have no need to worry about Windows 8 and 10. I bought a Windows 8 lap top. I copied the exe file to a stick, then to the new computer and installed TMG just as one would to any new computer. Like you, I was anxious about the upgrade to Windows 10 and arranged to have professional help from my seller. There was no need. Microsoft are rolling out the upgrade. I registered for the upgrade (from the lap top in question) and then waited until I was notified that my turn had come. The upgrade reinstalled all my software including TMG 9 complete with its serial number and files. All the software was installed just as it had been in Windows 8. As you can see from the threads on the Wholly Genes forum - there are three things that might go wrong. First, your new installation may repeatedly forget its serial number. When you want to open the software after boot up you need to right click on the icon and select run as administrator. Then enter your user name and serial number which will then be remembered. There is a kind  explanation of why you need to do this on the Wholly Genes forum. It is the result of added security on the later issues of Windows, ensuring that significant alterations are made only by someone who actually identifies themselves as the administrator for that session. Next you may lose your custom settings for the TMG layout colours etc. etc. You need to transfer these by making a back up file ***.sqz that includes settings and data anbd then restoring it in TMG on your new computer. I did nothing to change the settings on the new computer and made no attempt to reproduce the paths I had previously used in Windows 7 when moving to Windows 8. I have customised task bars and lay outs - and if you too have these, you will find the Wholly Genes forum has the guidance I was given for copying them to the new computer. Again I used a memory stick and pasted them into the directory which already held the TMG files of the same type. It is helpful if you set your Windows to show the file type extensions. The default is to hide them. The final glitch may affect backing up. It is a result of the new paths (file arrangements) on the new computer. You need to alter them for each project by going into the File / Current Project Preferences/ Advanced and clicking on the dots in the back up line. One is offered the same opportunity to make an alteration to the back up destination if one chooses to back up on exiting the Project - but doing it at that moment has no effect. You have to do it via the file menu. I made no other alterations and it could well be that there will be some other details that need attention. But my policy is to leave the new Windows (8 first and then 10) to arrange things in its own way, to  let it install itself and not paste in whole new directories. May be it was because I accepted the defaults that  the subsequent automised upgrade to Windows 10 was problem free. Minor details of TMG installation are simple to rectify but fiddling about with the operating system is a different matter. I never made mirror images and dont understand what they are. I did however copy and or back up all my projects. If something does go really wrong, most modern computers have an option to return them to factory settings. I hope this is helpful and will reassure you. Evelyn Wilcock Genealogy site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wilcock/ The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John, On Monday, October 5, 2015, 3:42:36 PM, you wrote: > Tom, > "On This Day" (OTD) has a "Make Calendar for Year" feature that makes a > calendar in HTML. The output is not designed to be printed, and the program > doesn't offer a lot of control over the graphics. Also, the program was > written a long time ago, and the HTML is low-quality. Some of that was due > to the many issues with browsers back in 2001, including spotty support for > CSS, but also my lack of rigor creating the HTML. Thanks, John. I think that it is *my* lack of rigour in editing HTML that is holding me back <grin>. > You can try using the HTML produced by OTD as a starting point, but you will > have to edit some HTML to make progress. If you are going to pursue that > option, let me know. I will get you a version of the program that produces > better HTML/CSS. Thanks again, John. Your offer is appreciated but I will feel much more confident going down the TMG/Excel/Word route. Something about 'the devil you know'... Your magical Second Site programme includes such flexible and easily configured calendars that they are my first thought for browser output. For final hard copy output, though, I would not feel nearly so confident - I am going to start with Susan's option 3. If I don't find it works for me I would be very glad to take up your offer off-list, though, but you do so much for our community already that I would feel very reticent about adding to your workload. Thanks very much for the offer, though. Tom

Hi Susan, On Monday, October 5, 2015, 2:38:50 PM, you wrote: > Hi Tom, > Here's the link to the December 2012 blog posts for our user group's > exploration of holiday calendars and TMG > (http://tvtmgreports.blogspot.com/2012_12_01_archive.html). We explored > three options. The posts are probably self-explanatory, but if you have > any questions, feel free to contact me. > Regards, > Susan Johnston Magic, Susan! Thanks very much! Chris had suggested option 1 ('On This Day'), I had already mentioned option 2 (Legacy Calendar Report) though I hadn't looked at Rootsmagic, but option 3 (Excel/Word) gives me what looks like just the perfect mixture of flexibility and simplicity (relative to doing it all by hand!) that I was looking for. Thanks again! Tom

Twice over the years, I have used Laplink's PCMover software to move to a new computer. This is a rather expensive program and you can use it only once (except for further transfer from the same old computer to the same new one), but it did it well. It does take several hours, or did at the last time I used it. I'm planning to use my new copy next week,when I get up the nerve and purchase their new cable. I used a network setup to do it last time, but I cannot persuade my new computer to join a home network. Alas! ....Betty On 10/5/2015 12:48 PM, Rick Van Dusen via wrote: > Until my recent upgrade, I used a third-party program for this. My > current Lenovo backup does, I believe, make an image. Beyond that, I > don't know what's currently available. > > But here's what I'm talking about: > > There are basically two ways to copy the contents of a drive: > > 1. File-by-file. The result is that you have a copy of each file. This > will save your files (good for saving/backing up your work), but a > restore to a blank drive will not necessarily put the files back where > they were. > > 2. Drive image or bit-by-bit. Every bit of data on the drive will be > copied in a stream. A restore will put it all back "where it found it". > This is necessary for files (and non-file data) which the operating > system (or lower level function) uses to start the computer. The > hardware will look for this data in a certain exact place on the > computer, so it must be there and not somewhere else, or it won't work. > > When you put your Windows (or Mac or Linux) DVD in its drive and boot > from it, that disk will begin its work by putting these bits onto the > harddrive, so that it will be capable of booting the system thereafter. > > If you have an image of the drive, you can boot from a CD/DVD (my > software has a bootable disc; the Lenovo makes the backup discs > bootable) and simply restore the whole drive at once. If you have a > file-by-file backup, you MUST reinstall the OS before copying files > back, which takes longer and might lose some of your preferences. (You > might also end up having to reinstall all your software.) But a > file-by-file backup will probably save all your *data* successfully. > > Rick Van Dusen > > > > > On 10/5/2015 5:25 AM, Russell Dorr via wrote: >> Okay, I'll admit I don't know what a drive image type backup is. But the ideas seem very cogent. Can you use the Win8.1 and Win10 backup programs and a 1 TB extension drive? Would that do? > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >