Did you go to Terry's site to look for directions, or follow Virginia's advice to read and understand TMG Help's sections of the Data File Storage? I haven't checked Terry's instructions (even to verify he *has* such instructions) nor have I done this task, so I'm not going tell you how I think it's probably best done, but I'm pretty sure the backup/restore method is not the best. Rick Van Dusen On 10/13/2015 8:50 PM, Kay & John (Bill) Sturgeon OAM via wrote: > Rick and Virginia, > > First of all I thought, too hard, then decided to give it a go. > I backed up my prime project - paranoid set in. > > I deleted each of the other two projects and restored them changing the > folders to read \Projects\Selwyn and Projects\Sturgeon Others. > > I noticed something not right in my layout, corrected it and resaved > it. TMG hung after turning grey. I had to close down without saving > and restart. > > Not sure I did it right as every restore wizard window that came up I > created a new sub-folder, should I have done that? I could see these > subfolders along with Sample under Projects, which I am sure is > correct. Being paranoid (the hanging thing) I have deleted those > projects again. Then manually deleted the folders as even though I > deleted the project there were files remaining under the folders I > created. Perhaps some also lurking elsewhere on my computer. > > I am now left with my main project called National Park and back up .sqz > files of my two other projects. I did a little tweak with the layout > and saved it, no hanging. > > Obiously I did not get it right in the restore wizard - should I only > made a sub-folder under the projects?? > > Kay

Kay - Rick is correct. If your projects are in separate folders, the accents and filters in a project will be unique to that project. If all the projects (note there are over 100 files in a single project) are kept in a single folder, the accents and filters can be shared by (and listed in) all those projects - and some folks do prefer that option, particularly if the accents and filters apply to all the people. I have always kept my projects in separate folders, with their own accents, flags, and filters. There are instructions in Help for keeping projects in separate folders. The TMG Data File Storage (DFS) system is explained in Help under Data File Storage. You can also download the article I wrote when the folder system first came out. The folder names in that article have changed a bit over the years, but the principle of the three TMG folders (mine/ours/theirs) is the same. I think it is an elegant design - fitting specific TMG files into the MS Windows files-access rules. Wherever you keep your projects, you will find life with TMG more simple and less error prone if you understand the DFS system. DFS article for download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/txd6404mcwvmhip/tmg7dfs.doc?dl=0 The article also has a list of the filters (at that time) and their file extensions (to identify them). You may be surprised at just how many really neat filters there are - and where to find them. Virginia

On 10/12/2015 5:32 PM, Terry Reigel via wrote: > On 10/12/2015 4:48 PM, John and Lee Wood via wrote: >> snip Is there any way I can copy my people from the test project to the main project? Right now I'm stymied as to how to do it. > John, > > No, you cannot "Copy" people from one Project to another. However, you > can still get them there. snip See details in my article on Merging at http://tmg.reigelridge.com/merging.htm Thanks Terry, John Wood

Hi Jerry, TMG_L is a RootsWeb list devoted to TMG users. HRE content would likely usurp the list for TMG users. It would be be seen as OFF-TOPIC by the List Administrator. Occasional topics seeking opinion about features in TMG, I would expect would be tolerated, but not a solid stream of HRE related discussion. If you (or anyone else) are specifically interested in the provision of features within HRE, please communicate with me or John Lucas and we can pass that item to the specific team. If you (or anyone else) have specific IT skills which could be valuable to the project and have the time to contribute, then please again communicate with me or John Lucas. As we get closer to having something to demonstrate, it is likely that we will announce a public website about the project. Robin Lamacraft (robin.lamacraft@internode.on.net) Main Coordinator History Research Environment project On 12/10/2015 10:14 PM, Jerry Fillebrown via wrote: > WHY? > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [TMG] HRE lists > > I have replied to Ida. HRE discussions would be better done off this list for the present. > > John Lucas

I'm going to attempt to answer this from memory; sorry, I don't have time to test and verify. But this will be close to exact, anyway: Accents interact with flags, and one or the other (here's the part I'm not remembering for sure) of these is kept in a file that's shared by all projects in the same folder. This means that if a user has multiple projects in the same folder (say the TMG default of The Master Genealogist v9\projects), the flags and/or the accents must be manually synchronized in all projects (even if the flags/accents are not used in all projects). (There's some sort of indexing which makes the order of the flags and/or accents critical as well. In other words, the third (say) flag and third accent will relate to each other, even if they're not the correct pair. With multiple projects in the same folder, the user will have to not only have all the same flags and accents across all the projects, but must have them in the same order.) The other solution to this is to set up a separate folder for each project (e.g. The Master Genealogist v9\projects\project1, The Master Genealogist v9\projects\project2, The Master Genealogist v9\projects\project3). With this setup, the shared files are not shared, but are duplicated, one per project. Flags/accents (and any other files which are normally shared) can then be set independently in each project. Without verifying this, I'll presume that Terry has a page which tells how to separate projects into different folders. Rick Van Dusen On 10/10/2015 5:19 PM, Kay & John (Bill) Sturgeon OAM via wrote: > I have 3 projects in my program. One is the main, the other two are > names in common. > > I only have accents set up in my main, the others are default. I rarely > update the names in common projects, but when I do and return to my main > project, it then has the default ones. > I load my saved accents see the writing on the bottom left hand side > reflecting this, but always have to reset up i.e. add my ancestor > flagged colours and move them to the top of the list. I resave my > accent file. All is good till the next time I change projects. > > Is there something I am missing. > > Kay

That worked! Thanks so much for such a simple solution. Robin in Short Pump > On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:58 AM, David Ball <dgballtmg@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Fastest way is much easier than focus groups. Print a journal report and set the number of generations to something larger than was actual (I always use 20 generations). The initial ancestor is number 1 and all further descendants are sequentially numbered up from there. > > Simply subtract the highest number from the end of each generation from the highest number at the end of the next generation and the difference is the number of descendants in that generation (start person is #1, then children, then grandchildren, then great-grandchildren, etc.). > > Dave Ball > > -----Original Message----- > From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Kaspar via > Sent: October-12-15 12:41 PM > To: tmg@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TMG] Number of descendants > > What’s the fastest way to count how many grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and beyond) a person has? (I guess I’m looking for the number of descendants in each generation from the focus person) > > I don’t need a list of names, just a headcount. > > Thanks > Robin >

Fastest way is much easier than focus groups. Print a journal report and set the number of generations to something larger than was actual (I always use 20 generations). The initial ancestor is number 1 and all further descendants are sequentially numbered up from there. Simply subtract the highest number from the end of each generation from the highest number at the end of the next generation and the difference is the number of descendants in that generation (start person is #1, then children, then grandchildren, then great-grandchildren, etc.). Dave Ball -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Kaspar via Sent: October-12-15 12:41 PM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Number of descendants What’s the fastest way to count how many grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and beyond) a person has? (I guess I’m looking for the number of descendants in each generation from the focus person) I don’t need a list of names, just a headcount. Thanks Robin

Related question: is there an easy way to get a count of how many people there are in each relative category (1st cousins, 5th once removed, that kind of thing)? I know I can run a report that puts out the names in groups, but then I have to manually count how many people I know of in the various categories, which is tedious. On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Robin Kaspar via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > What’s the fastest way to count how many grandchildren and > great-grandchildren (and beyond) a person has? (I guess I’m looking for the > number of descendants in each generation from the focus person) > > I don’t need a list of names, just a headcount. > > Thanks > Robin > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

Thanks Terry, I thought I had checked everything. I missed that one. Nancy From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Reigel via Subject: Re: [TMG] List of People Report Options On 10/12/2015 5:56 PM, Nancy via wrote: > In printing a list of people - is a descendant of - I don't see an > option to not include spouses. When the report goes to the screen it > shows how many people then it adds the spouses and shows the total. Nancy, Open the Filter, and at the bottom in the "And then add their" section, uncheck Spouses. Terry Reigel

On 10/12/2015 5:56 PM, Nancy via wrote: > In printing a list of people - is a descendant of - I don't see an option to > not include spouses. When the report goes to the screen it shows how many > people then it adds the spouses and shows the total. Nancy, Open the Filter, and at the bottom in the "And then add their" section, uncheck Spouses. Terry Reigel

On 10/12/2015 5:42 PM, Lee Hoffman/KY via wrote: > At 10/12/2015 15:41, Robin Kaspar wrote: >> What’s the fastest way to count how many >> grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and >> beyond) a person has? (I guess I’m looking for >> the number of descendants in each generation > >from the focus person) I don’t need a list of names, just a headcount. > > I'd use the Distribution of People report based on a filter like: > Is a Descendant of ID# [?] END > > Lee, How do you get the number by generation from that? All I get is the number by surname. Terry Reigel

At 10/12/2015 15:41, Robin Kaspar wrote: >What’s the fastest way to count how many >grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and >beyond) a person has? (I guess I’m looking for >the number of descendants in each generation >from the focus person) I don’t need a list of names, just a headcount. I'd use the Distribution of People report based on a filter like: Is a Descendant of ID# [?] END Lee

On 10/12/2015 3:41 PM, Robin Kaspar via wrote: > What’s the fastest way to count how many grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and beyond) a person has? (I guess I’m looking for the number of descendants in each generation from the focus person) > > I don’t need a list of names, just a headcount. Robin, One way is to add the person to an empty focus group. Then set the Add Others box to add Descendants for one generation. Click the Add button and note how many are added. Click "Select All" and then Add again and again note how many are added. Repeat until you run out of descendants. There may be an easier way, but it doesn't come to mind. Terry Reigel

On 10/12/2015 4:48 PM, John and Lee Wood via wrote: > I created a separate project to test a possible ancestry for one > personin my main project. Now I want to copy those people and all their > sources, tag types, etc. back to my main project. I've tried creating a > focus group from my test project but it won't appear in my main > project. Is there any way I can copy my people from the test project to > the main project? Right now I'm stymied as to how to do it. John, No, you cannot "Copy" people from one Project to another. However, you can still get them there. What you have to do is Merge the two Projects. This results in two separate Data Sets within the merged Project. Then you Merge the two Data Sets. This results in all the people from one of the Data Sets being added to the other, but the first one still remains. So then you have to delete that Data Set. You have to do all this carefully to avoid getting all the new people assigned the low ID#'s and all the the people in your working Project renumbered after them, assuming you care about that. See details in my article on Merging at http://tmg.reigelridge.com/merging.htm Be sure to make Backups first because it's entirely possible to mess up. Terry Reigel

In printing a list of people - is a descendant of - I don't see an option to not include spouses. When the report goes to the screen it shows how many people then it adds the spouses and shows the total. When the report prints or shows on the screen, the spouses are listed twice. The purpose of this report is to get an alphabetical list of one ancestor. I want the spouses names also, but not listed twice. Name: last, first ID number Birth Year Death Year Father's Name: last, first Mother's Name: last, first What am I missing? Nancy

I created a separate project to test a possible ancestry for one personin my main project. Now I want to copy those people and all their sources, tag types, etc. back to my main project. I've tried creating a focus group from my test project but it won't appear in my main project. Is there any way I can copy my people from the test project to the main project? Right now I'm stymied as to how to do it. Thanks for any help. John Wood

What’s the fastest way to count how many grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and beyond) a person has? (I guess I’m looking for the number of descendants in each generation from the focus person) I don’t need a list of names, just a headcount. Thanks Robin

1) Open the Focus Group window (if it's not already open) and click Remove All to make it empty. 2) Click Add Individual and choose the name or number of the person whose descendants you want to count. 3) Select that person in the focus group. 4) Check the Descendants box and set the number of generations to a large number. 5) Click Add Others. The count shows at the top right of the box, and it includes the starting person and all his/her descendants. -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Kaspar via Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:41 PM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Number of descendants What's the fastest way to count how many grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and beyond) a person has? (I guess I'm looking for the number of descendants in each generation from the focus person) I don't need a list of names, just a headcount.

WHY? -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John A. Lucas via Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 5:23 AM To: tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] HRE lists I have replied to Ida. HRE discussions would be better done off this list for the present. John Lucas The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have replied to Ida. HRE discussions would be better done off this list for the present. John Lucas