Hi listers, The Southern California TMG users group will meet Sat Nov 7, 2015 from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. at the SCGS Library. 417 Irving Drive Burbank, CA Everyone is welcome. -- Patt Ricketts www.jackandpatt.com

Meanwhile, I hope listers--ALL listers--realized this was spam and did NOT click the link. (FWIW, It appears to me the account in question was cracked and is being used by spammers. On lists I've administered, a cracked-and-spamming account was cut off immediately, but without prejudice toward the actual user. It could be restored once the user gave satisfactory assurance that the problem had been solved.) Rick Van Dusen On 11/3/2015 12:02 PM, Constance Chappell Horne via wrote: > As Administrator of this list, my policy is to remain silent, unless > *necessary*. > > Spam posted to this list will result in moderation of that user's account > without prior notice. Continued Spam instances will result in a posting ban > from this list. > > This is my only warning. > > Constance Horne > TMG List Administrator

As Administrator of this list, my policy is to remain silent, unless *necessary*. Spam posted to this list will result in moderation of that user's account without prior notice. Continued Spam instances will result in a posting ban from this list. This is my only warning. Constance Horne TMG List Administrator

Hi all I'm wondering whether I can change this output in a similar way to using the Narrative Child tag? The main thing I'd like to do is have "unknown partner" as an output option. Is this possible? Ann

The "unknown person" wording in narrative reports is produced when you have a marriage with only one person assigned to the marriage tag. Is this the "unknown person" wording you wish to change to "unknown partner?" If so, there isn't an equivalent to the Narrative Children tag that will make this change. But there are at least two other ways to do it. Method A: Create a new, unrelated person with surname "an unknown partner." Enter an exclusion mark (hyphen) as the given name. Use this person as the spouse for any people for whom you want the narrative report to read like "He married an unknown partner." You may need to have two such dummy people, one male and one female. Method B: Create a new role in the Marriage tag with sentence structure "[P] married an unknown partner." On any marriage tags for which you wish to use this wording, choose this role in the drop-down list to the left of the person's name. -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Carson via Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:39 PM To: TMG@rootsweb.com Subject: [TMG] Changing the "unknown spouse" output in reports? Hi all I'm wondering whether I can change this output in a similar way to using the Narrative Child tag? The main thing I'd like to do is have "unknown partner" as an output option. Is this possible?

Richard Damon commented on this topic: > My bigger complaint is that TMG doesn't really have a way > to indicate that a date is Julian (aka Old Style), only that > it should be double dated (only Old Style dates can be > double dated, but not all Old Style dates should be double dated). But Richard, as I noted in my reply to Barbara, TMG *does* have a way to indicate a single year date which falls within your "Old style date range" as being an Old Style date. I noted: > if you wish to output a date using an Old Style single year format, > enter "24 Feb 1691 OS" in the Date field, *BUT* put a non-breaking > space (Alt + 255 on the numeric keypad) between the year and 'OS'. > TMG will now treat that date as irregular and output it as entered. > Now be sure to enter a regular date using any of the recognized > input formats such as "24 Feb 1691/92" or "24 Feb 1692 OS" in > the Sort Date field so it will sort appropriately. As I noted to Barbara, any single-year date entered in TMG is assumed to be New Style. Even a date which "could" be double dated (such as a January or February date in a year within your "Old style date range" as specified in Preferences // Program Options // General), will be assumed to be New Style and will not be double dated. To cause a date within the "Old style date range" to be stored and later output in TMG as a double-year date, you must either enter the _New_Style_ date with the code 'OS' following it, or enter the date as a double-year date. I agree it is somewhat confusing in that the code 'OS' in a date entered in TMG (e.g. "24 Feb 1691 OS") does NOT mean that "24 Feb 1691" is an Old Style date. Instead it is telling TMG to store and later output this New Style date of "24 Feb 1691" as a double-year date. Because of this potential confusion, if I want a double-year date I always enter it as a double-year date. By the way, the only impact of the "Old style date range" in Preferences is that TMG will now recognize a date _within_ that range entered with one of the specified Old Style input formats as a request to store a double-year date. That allows "24 Feb 1691/92" or "24 Feb 1692 OS" to produce double-year dates when those years are within your range. But any date not in your range entered with one of those formats will NOT trigger the date to be stored as a double-year date. For example, the equivalent input of "24 Feb 1891/92" will produce "between 24 Feb 1891 and 1892", and a date input as "24 Feb 1892 OS" will be considered an irregular date. Even "24 May 1691/92" will not trigger a double-year date but will produce "between 24 May 1691 and 1692". Hope this helps explain this somewhat confusing topic, Michael

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On 11/2/2015 7:16 PM, Nancy wrote: > I am still using TMG 7.04. Nancy, Why? > I see that option in 9.05 but not in 7.05 In versions before 8 you just click the Delete button and it says you can't delete the standard definition and asks if you want to reset to defaults. Click Yes. Terry > > Nancy > On Behalf Of Terry Reigel via > Subject: Re: [TMG] Report Defaults > > On 11/2/2015 6:00 PM, Nancy via wrote: >> How do I reset the report defaults? > Nancy, > > Open the report definition, and at the top right click "Reset Defaults." > > Terry Reigel > >

Thanks, Terry I was in the middle of a book, but one of my relatives keeps sending more information. I think you are right, just go to 9.05 and be done with it. I'll have to learn how to use 9.05. Hope it is not too different from 7.04 Nancy On 11/2/2015 7:16 PM, Nancy wrote: > I am still using TMG 7.04. Nancy, Why? > I see that option in 9.05 but not in 7.05 In versions before 8 you just click the Delete button and it says you can't delete the standard definition and asks if you want to reset to defaults. Click Yes. Terry

I am still using TMG 7.04. I see that option in 9.05 but not in 7.05 Nancy On Behalf Of Terry Reigel via Subject: Re: [TMG] Report Defaults On 11/2/2015 6:00 PM, Nancy via wrote: > How do I reset the report defaults? Nancy, Open the report definition, and at the top right click "Reset Defaults." Terry Reigel

On 11/2/2015 6:00 PM, Nancy via wrote: > How do I reset the report defaults? Nancy, Open the report definition, and at the top right click "Reset Defaults." Terry Reigel

How do I reset the report defaults? Nancy L. W.

Re: my gedcom errors - Think I've got it figured out - there was a repository that had a person attached to it (with an ID #). Once I removed the connection between the source & repository, it seems to be working again. Hmmm.

Just received my computer back from the repair shop. While there, files were check and cleaned for malware, virus etc.... I had to open TMG 9.03 with key code. Everything is working fine so far EXCEPT I can not complete a backup. I received the following error. OLE exception error. Exception code c00000fd. OLE object may be corrupt I wasn't having this problem before the computer went in for repairs. Help please. Jack Fly

It's for Wikitree, which uses gedcoms. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Virginia Blakelock <vblakelock@gmail.com> wrote: > Bobbie - > > As John suggested, more programs are now importing TMG files directly. > That may be a better option for you since some data is lost in the TMG > GEDCOM export. > > Terry has some excellent suggestions for sharing data, including his > use of the Journal report instead of GEDCOMs. You may find his tips > helpful: > > http://tmg.reigelridge.com/sharing.htm > > Virginia > >

Bobbie - As John suggested, more programs are now importing TMG files directly. That may be a better option for you since some data is lost in the TMG GEDCOM export. Terry has some excellent suggestions for sharing data, including his use of the Journal report instead of GEDCOMs. You may find his tips helpful: http://tmg.reigelridge.com/sharing.htm Virginia On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Bobbie Hall <bobbie.hall@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the idea, Virginia. I did shut down my anti-virus & disconnected > from everything. Same problem remains. > > I tried a few variations with different groups of people, different names > for the Focus Groups I'm using, different gedcom names, etc. and I'm getting > the error only on *some* of the gedcoms. > > I can get gedcoms from other groups of people in a different focus group > without the error, and yet get the error on, say, the next one with another > group of people. They're all from the same geographic & time period, so they > could share, perhaps, a source or person in common. > > It seems to stem from one person or perhaps one source in the focus group... > could that be possible? > > I've run VFI, and all the maintenance routines. Frustrated. > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Virginia Blakelock <vblakelock@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Bobbie - >> >> Note that problems have been reported when anti-virus and cloud >> service/backup programs are running or syncing at the same time as you >> create the GEDCOM. If you are not already doing so, try creating the >> GEDCOM with no other programs running and see if you get the same >> error message. >> >> Virginia >> >

Barbara Levergood commented on TMG's handling of "Old Style" dates. > I think that there is an error in TMG's handling of > Old Style dates, both in the program and in the help system... > Let's start with a very clear description of what > the notations mean in this context. > So, the date 24 Feb 1690/91 is in year 1690 OS and in year 1691 NS. > However, when you enter the following date in a TMG date field, > "recognizable" by TMG: 24 Feb 1690 OS TMG incorrectly converts that > to: 24 Feb 1689/90 [24 Feb 1690/91 is correct]. Hi Barbara, I think your concerns are based on your interpretation of the code "OS" as used by TMG during data input. TMG agrees with your definitions of "Old Style' and "New Style" for dates with a single year. *But* TMG HELP says in the topic "Date Format" under "Old Style Dates": "You should always enter Gregorian dates, therefore to enter an Old Style date: Enter the _new_style_ date followed by OS." In other words TMG clearly states that to get "24 Feb 1690/91", if you choose to only enter a date with one year then within TMG you enter the New Style date "24 Feb 1691" followed by TMG's special date code "OS". Since TMG will no longer ever be modified, hopefully it will help to recognize a few things about dates in this final TMG version: - TMG allows multiple formats for entering such a date, but converts all of those imputs to a single internal format. Further, TMG is completely consistent in the way it handles that conversion, whether the entry is a single year or double date format. A specific internal double date pair can always reliably be obtained. Because of the potential confusion caused by using the "OS" code in data entry, I always input such dates as double date years so there is no room for confusion. - TMG only outputs such dates using double date format, which ensures no confusion for the reader of a report. As stated in HELP, all single year dates are assumed to be New Style. - If the output is desired to be something other than TMG's standard double date output, that can be accomplished by entering the output desired as irregular text in the Date field. But a regular date should be entered in the Sort Date field for proper sorting. > Or when you enter 24 Feb 1691 OS TMG incorrectly converts that to: > 24 Feb 1690/91 [24 Feb 1691/92 is correct]. As noted above, TMG consistently interprets single year entries as New Style. However if you wish to output a date using an Old Style single year format, enter "24 Feb 1691 OS" in the Date field, *BUT* put a non-breaking space (Alt + 255 on the numeric keypad) between the year and 'OS'. TMG will now treat that date as irregular and output it as entered. Now be sure to enter a regular date using any of the recognized input formats such as "24 Feb 1691/92" or "24 Feb 1692 OS" in the Sort Date field so it will sort appropriately. For further details concerning entering Dates in TMG, see the "Dates" section of the "Data Entry" chapter in my on-line book: http://www.mjh-nm.net/DATENTRY.HTML#Dates Hope this helps, Michael

I am ready to start using a Cloud service for storage and other needs but I need some advice getting started. I already have iCloud that I am using with an iPhone. Can I use my iCloud account for *all* my other Cloud storage needs such as backing-up my TMG files, etc., or do I need to create another account with such as, Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, etc.? If getting an account with such as, Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, etc., is the best way to go.. which is the best Cloud service to choose? I'm confused and need some words of wisdom to get started. Thanks, John B. Windham Metairie, Louisiana

Margaret Depending on the which other program you have chosen you might not need to use a gedcom file as many are able to do a direct import from the TMG files Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tmg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Clark via Sent: 01 November 2015 22:34 To: Virginia Blakelock; tmg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TMG] Creating Gedcom error Could someone point me to a step by step (and hopefully very simple) directions for creating a GedCom file. I have done this in the past but it was before this version and it did not always work well. I have read the recent posts about GedComs but it is confusing to me since I really don't have a good grasp on the topic. I want to copy my TMG data to another program just as a backup but I want it to be as complete as possible. Thanks so much. Margaret > On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Virginia Blakelock via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Bobbie - > > Note that problems have been reported when anti-virus and cloud > service/backup programs are running or syncing at the same time as you > create the GEDCOM. If you are not already doing so, try creating the > GEDCOM with no other programs running and see if you get the same > error message. > > Virginia > >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Bobbie Hall via <tmg@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> I'm creating a gedcom export, and all goes well until the end when I get: >> >> Alias '_FILE_E' is not found. 1285 EXPORTGEDCOM >> >> Any idea if this is actually a problem? It allows me to continue, and >> creates the gedcom. >> The TMG archive is found here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the idea, Virginia. I did shut down my anti-virus & disconnected from everything. Same problem remains. I tried a few variations with different groups of people, different names for the Focus Groups I'm using, different gedcom names, etc. and I'm getting the error only on *some* of the gedcoms. I can get gedcoms from other groups of people in a different focus group without the error, and yet get the error on, say, the next one with another group of people. They're all from the same geographic & time period, so they could share, perhaps, a source or person in common. It seems to stem from one person or perhaps one source in the focus group... could that be possible? I've run VFI, and all the maintenance routines. Frustrated. On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Virginia Blakelock <vblakelock@gmail.com> wrote: > Bobbie - > > Note that problems have been reported when anti-virus and cloud > service/backup programs are running or syncing at the same time as you > create the GEDCOM. If you are not already doing so, try creating the > GEDCOM with no other programs running and see if you get the same > error message. > > Virginia > >