At 11/21/2017 11:39, Erik Hov wrote >Well ,I can`t split the prject since it all of the people are connected to >me somehow. > >The focus with that project has been starting with me and then entering as >many ancestors I knew ,and then also go onto all I could find of descendants >of all the siblings and halfsiblings of my ancestors etc. > >I am sure I have lots of duplicates ,that I will have to do a report on and >then go through them. When I speak of duplicates, I am meaning having the same p-erson(s) in two projects or two data sets. In on data set or project the person would primarily be a "holding" person in order to complete various reports. For example, if I were to split my project, I would split it between my family and my wife's family. In my family, I would include the basic information for my wife and her parents. I might include her family's direct line back (again only basic data). Similarly for my wife's family, I would include myself and my parents basic information (and again possibly my direct line back (basic data only). As noted, the duplications would be only basic data -- just enough to create charts and reports focused on our children to be somewhat complete. If I needed more at any time, I could create a temporary project just for that purpose. Having just basic data be with the "duplicate" persons would decrease the amount of redundant data entry/editing that would meed to be done. For the most part, there would not be a lot of redundancy as my, my wife, and our parents' data would not change that much. Lee

You are just under the 2GB limit. Apparently the file becomes unusable. From a VFP forum: ____________________________________ Dan Olsson (Programmer) 12 Mar 15 19:37 No it is 2x1024x1024x1024=2 147 483 648 and I have sometimes been going over that limit by appending records, which immidiately renders the dbf useless. BTW the 2GB limit also applies to CDX- and FPT-files Mike Lewis (Programmer) 12 Mar 15 19:50 Yes, I've seen it many times, and I'm sure others have as well. As Dr. D implies, a gigabyte is 1024 megabytes, and a megabyte is 1024 kilobytes, and kilobyte is 1024 bytes. Put another way, a gigabyte is 2 the power of 30 bytes. And it doesn't only apply to DBFs, CDXs and FTPs. It applies to any file that can be opened in VFP. That even includes text files. And it makes no difference how you try to open those files. So using low-level file access won't help. Just about the only way to read those files in VFP would be to use some external component. ____________________________________ Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Erik Hov Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 5:49 AM To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' Subject: Re: [TMG] 2Gb file limit Just wonder what do you mean when saying unusable? The project_n.cdx file I have at current is now 2.066.031 kb....what is unusable ,what can`t be done when it is over 2GB? (I haven`t optimized etc for some weeks)

Just wonder what do you mean when saying unusable? The project_n.cdx file I have at current is now 2.066.031 kb....what is unusable ,what can`t be done when it is over 2GB? (I haven`t optimized etc for some weeks) -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Darryl Lundy Sendt: 21. november 2017 09:37 Til: [email protected] Emne: [TMG] 2Gb file limit Patt Just one file that is currently 1,604,773 Kb It is the project_N.CDX file. My understanding is that Visual FoxPro has an absolute limit of 2Gb for any one file, and so if a file hits 2Gb the project database becomes unusable. Regards Darryl _______ Interested in the British peerage? See my website at www.thepeerage.com > On 21/11/2017, at 9:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send TMG mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/tmg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TMG digest..." > > > The TMG archive is at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > How to subscribe to TMG is at: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fwd: TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 516 (Patt Ricketts) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:03:26 -0800 > From: Patt Ricketts <[email protected]> > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TMG] Fwd: TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 516 > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Darryl, > > When you talk about TMG's 2Gb limit. Is that the total for a project > or do you have 1 file in the project that is 1.6Gb? > > Patt Ricketts > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Darryl Lundy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just to throw in some trivia. >> My machine currently takes 61 minutes to create a web site using >> Second Site - 703,000 people with 14,000 exhibits. >> The same machine (Mac Pro with SSD drives and 64Gb of RAM) takes >> around 28 hours to export a Gedcom from TMG. >> The SS speed I can live with - an hour means I have to take a break >> from data entry. 28 hours I can?t live with so I politely decline >> requests for gedcoms of my data, >> >> As an aside, my largest TMG file is now 1.6Gb, which is getting >> scarily close to TMG?s absolute 2Gb limit. So hoping HRE is ready in time! >> >> Regards >> Darryl >> >> _______ >> Interested in the British peerage? See my website at >> www.thepeerage.com >> >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> Subject: TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 516 >>> Date: 19 November 2017 at 4:25:10 PM NZDT >>> To: [email protected] >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. >> ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. >> ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > Patt Ricketts > www.jackandpatt.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the TMG list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the TMG mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 524 > ************************************ The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Erik, Yes, it sounds possible that we have relatives in common, although probably not close ones. My family has done some DNA testing, so perhaps I should check my match lists for your email address, if you have tested any family. Karla <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Erik Hov <[email protected]> wrote: > Could be?..... > It`s different parts really....My mother`s father`s family comes from > Snertingdal , Nordre and Søndre Land in Oppland County. On that side my 3 x > greatgrandparents lived in Skien ,Telemark in 1900 ,but they were from > Snertingdal in Oppland Count and Nes in Hedmark County ,and only lived in > Skien for about 3 years. I also think that one of those ancestors > (Hichmann) lived in Gjerpen ,Telemark. > My mother`s mother`s family comes from Møre and Romsdal and Rogaland > Counties. > My father`s family comes from Østfold County ,Sweden and his mother was > from Is in Østerdalen ,and she has ancestors in Os ,Kvikne and Tolga in > Østerdalen ,Hedmark. Also some relatives in Røros area ,Sør Trøndelag. > Also some more distant relatives in Norderhov area ,mostly who moved > there. It is said that one of my (8 x greatgrandfather or something...) was > born in Tinn ,Telemark ,but no one knows anything about that branch. > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av > Karla Huebner > Sendt: 21. november 2017 17:20 > Til: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Emne: Re: [TMG] 2Gb file limit > > Hi Erik, that's an amazing number of people. Which parts of Norway? With > that many people, it wouldn't be surprising if you have some of my > relatives in that database. My maternal great-grandparents were from > Fyresdal in Telemark and my paternal great-grandparents were from Norderhov > (Buskerud) and Vinger (Hedmark). I've traced many Telemark and Hedmark > ancestors but have not gone very far back in Buskerud yet. > > Best wishes, > > Karla > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email& > utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email& > utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Erik Hov <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes ,it is the largest file in the project ,and I have 1.011.960 > > people in the project. Since it takes time to search the name > > searchlist every time ,I have TMG in two windows ,one with only the > > namelist ,and one with the other info ,so I can easily go to the > > particular ID number. It saves much time since I don`t have to wait > > for the namelist first. > > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > > Fra: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne > > av Lee Hoffman/KY > > Sendt: 21. november 2017 16:50 > > Til: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > > Emne: Re: [TMG] 2Gb file limit > > > > At 11/21/2017 03:36, Darryl Lundy wrote > > >Just one file that is currently 1,604,773 Kb It is the project_N.CDX > > >file. > > > > How many people do you have in that project!? My main project has > > about > > 61,000 people and its _N.CDX file is 202,840 KB. This is the index > > file to the Name database of the project . Because TMG has many ways > > in which we can search for people, the Name database has a number of > > different ways in which it can be indexed for quick searching. > > Therefore, the index file fo the Name database is the largest index > > file and likely the largest file in the project. Most, if not all, > > other files will be much smaller in comparison. > > > > Lee > > > > The TMG archive is found here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

At 11/21/2017 11:06, Erik Hov wrote >Yes ,it is the largest file in the project ,and I have 1.011.960 people in >the project. Since it takes time to search the name searchlist every time ,I >have TMG in two windows ,one with only the namelist ,and one with the other >info ,so I can easily go to the particular ID number. It saves much time >since I don`t have to wait for the namelist first. With that many people, I would definitely agree with John that you split that project into at least two projects. What is the main focus of your project? In my case, it is about a dozen families of mine and my wife's. Some of these are tending to one-name studies while most others tend to be fairly small groups. The majority of the small groups include a number of side tracings trying to get around brick walls in my major focus. If I ever need to split my project, I plane to drop the side groups as they are included just for convenience of the time and are rarely used. Of course, that won;t save that much (probably not more than a few thousand people. For serious splitting, I would have sepaprate out my families and my wife's families. That would require the least amount of duplication between projects. Lee

Hi Erik, that's an amazing number of people. Which parts of Norway? With that many people, it wouldn't be surprising if you have some of my relatives in that database. My maternal great-grandparents were from Fyresdal in Telemark and my paternal great-grandparents were from Norderhov (Buskerud) and Vinger (Hedmark). I've traced many Telemark and Hedmark ancestors but have not gone very far back in Buskerud yet. Best wishes, Karla <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Erik Hov <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes ,it is the largest file in the project ,and I have 1.011.960 people in > the project. Since it takes time to search the name searchlist every time > ,I > have TMG in two windows ,one with only the namelist ,and one with the other > info ,so I can easily go to the particular ID number. It saves much time > since I don`t have to wait for the namelist first. > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av > Lee Hoffman/KY > Sendt: 21. november 2017 16:50 > Til: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Emne: Re: [TMG] 2Gb file limit > > At 11/21/2017 03:36, Darryl Lundy wrote > >Just one file that is currently 1,604,773 Kb It is the project_N.CDX > >file. > > How many people do you have in that project!? My main project has about > 61,000 people and its _N.CDX file is 202,840 KB. This is the index file to > the Name database of the project . Because TMG has many ways in which we > can search for people, the Name database has a number of different ways in > which it can be indexed for quick searching. Therefore, the index file fo > the Name database is the largest index file and likely the largest file in > the project. Most, if not all, other files will be much smaller in > comparison. > > Lee > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

At 11/21/2017 03:36, Darryl Lundy wrote >Just one file that is currently 1,604,773 Kb >It is the project_N.CDX file. How many people do you have in that project!? My main project has about 61,000 people and its _N.CDX file is 202,840 KB. This is the index file to the Name database of the project . Because TMG has many ways in which we can search for people, the Name database has a number of different ways in which it can be indexed for quick searching. Therefore, the index file fo the Name database is the largest index file and likely the largest file in the project. Most, if not all, other files will be much smaller in comparison. Lee

Erik, I do not know what will happen when TMG attempts to exceed the 2GB file size limit. I suspect the database file will become corrupted, and TMG will not be able to process that table. The _n.cdx file is the name index. TMG probably won't operate on any project that has a corrupted index file, but having a corrupted name index file seems particularly bad. If you are getting anywhere close to the limit, you should be very, very careful. I do not know if the limit is at exactly 2GB (2,147,483,648 bytes), but if it is, you have about 30MB left and then you will exceed the limit. You should probably consider splitting your project into a separate project. Note that you cannot avoid the problem by using _multiple datasets in the same project_. In a TMG project with multiple datasets, all the datasets share the same set of database files. You need to use completely separate projects. Each TMG project has its own set of database files. John

Constance wrote: > Basically I make a "Cemetery person" for each cemetery, ... Constance, That works well. You could add a List of People report with cemetery people only and that would provide an index-like page for the cemeteries. John

Virginia, Using the Place Index in Second Site to list people buried in cemeteries is a reasonable thing to do. Constance has shown another way, and her method provides more control of the content and format. However, it does take some initial work to set it up. Once you have done that, however, it's not a lot of extra work to record a burial; just add the cemetery person to the tag. Constance uses P2 for the cemetery person. I probably would have used a witness, but that's a minor quibble. GedSite will probably get a "List of Places" User Item before it gets a "Place Index" User Item. The List of Places will be similar to the List of People in that it will allow you to select which places to include, and to designate what you want to appear for each place. The List of Places User Item is not imminent, probably next year. John

John Cardinal replied with a good Second Site idea: > Constance wrote: >> Basically I make a "Cemetery person" for each cemetery, ... > > You could add a List of People report with cemetery people only > and that would provide an index-like page for the cemeteries. Virginia and Constance, I use Cemetery "people" quite a lot. I have recently been cleaning them up and improving on their pseudo "parents". I have a "mother" who is a location person with "children" of all pseudo people within that area. I also have a "father" with "children" of only interment sites in an area. And these parents in turn have parents for grouping. All of these types of "people" also have custom Name Styles to aid in data entry and to prepend special characters for grouping in indexes. For example: Cemetery -------- Prefix: Reber Hill Cemetery Given: Walnut Township PreSurname: Pickaway County Surname: Ohio Suffix: USA and it lists in the Name index under the location "surname" #Loc: USA. Ohio. Pickaway County. Walnut Township Father ------ Given: USA, Ohio Surname: Interments "he" lists in the Name index under the source "surname" $rc: Interments Mother ------ PreSurname: Pickaway County Surname: Ohio Suffix: USA and "she" lists in the Name index under the location "surname" #Loc: USA. Ohio On the Cemetery person's page the "parents" are listed with links. This "father's" page lists all cemetery "children" in Ohio. The "mother's" page lists both her cemetery and census "children". For complete details see the section in my book about Cemetery People: http://www.mjh-nm.net/STYLE.HTML#CemeteryPerson It is a bit complex to set up, but sure makes it easy to navigate and find what I want. The Cemetery person page produces a list of people in my data set interred there with all pertinent data, as well as tags describing the cemetery's history, exact location, driving instructions, alternate names (for the Name index), etc. See also the custom Cemetery role used to link these Cemetery people as witnesses to the burial tags. http://www.mjh-nm.net/TAGCUSTM.HTML#CemeteryRole Hope this gives you ideas, Michael

Darryl, When you talk about TMG's 2Gb limit. Is that the total for a project or do you have 1 file in the project that is 1.6Gb? Patt Ricketts On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Darryl Lundy <[email protected]> wrote: > Just to throw in some trivia. > My machine currently takes 61 minutes to create a web site using Second > Site - 703,000 people with 14,000 exhibits. > The same machine (Mac Pro with SSD drives and 64Gb of RAM) takes around 28 > hours to export a Gedcom from TMG. > The SS speed I can live with - an hour means I have to take a break from > data entry. 28 hours I can’t live with so I politely decline requests for > gedcoms of my data, > > As an aside, my largest TMG file is now 1.6Gb, which is getting scarily > close to TMG’s absolute 2Gb limit. So hoping HRE is ready in time! > > Regards > Darryl > > _______ > Interested in the British peerage? See my website at www.thepeerage.com > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 516 > > Date: 19 November 2017 at 4:25:10 PM NZDT > > To: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- Patt Ricketts www.jackandpatt.com

Have you seen the sentence structure that I posted in the Wholly Genes Forum? It is here: http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?/topic/7860-address-cemetery-tag-burial-tag-mods/?hl=cemetery Basically I make a "Cemetery person" for each cemetery, and make the "Cemetery person" the second party [P2] in the burial tag. This and my other sentences makes a nice page to show all people buried in that cemetery and includes mentions of the spouses (usually also buried in the same location.) It also allows for comments about the cemetery itself. See a real example on my website here: http://roots.thehornes.us/g0/p10.htm#i1446 Constance

John, I put the cemetery name in the Place Detail field. In the place index I can see the cemetery name and everyone who is buried there. My site is BarlowFamily.com. There is probably a better way to show this information, and I'm open to suggestions. Virginia > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of John Cardinal > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:45 AM > To: TMG-L > Subject: Re: [TMG] GedSite > > Virginia, > > Can you describe what you are doing in more detail, or give me a link to your > site? I am not sure what you mean by "I've been using the place index to > show cemeteries in the Detail place." > > Thanks. > > John > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TMG- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Your question started with wanting to find out WHO, so that is the list of people report. You want only selected people, which you haven't already selected, so it is a filtered group. In the filter: You want people with Immagratn tags, so you select that as the field, and the sub-field is number of tags, operator is > greater, and the number is 0. You also wanted people with some other tags, so your want the operator 'OR', and a similar expresion for each of those. You also want to setup under options the information about the person you want to display. (Name, ID number, etc) Run the report. On 11/19/17 3:42 PM, Joan Lince wrote: > Richard, I had trouble following your instruction. When I choose List of > People, under Subjects of the report, what do I choose? And where do I go > from there? > > Joan > > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Richard Damon > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 3:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TMG] Report help > > On 11/19/17 2:31 PM, Joan Lince wrote: >> I would like help finding out who has an immigration tag in my TMG >> records, and at almost 90 I'm having trouble making sense of the very >> good assistance in TMG help or GTMOOTMG. Would someone be willing to >> tell me exactly how to do it? >> >> Besides the standard Immigratn tag, over the years I've created two >> more tags that are about immigration, and would like to cover all >> three of them in one report. That is, I would like a report that lists >> all the people who have data in any of my three Immigration tags. >> >> >> >> Your help will be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Joan Lince > Sounds like you want to run a list of People report, with a condition of # > of immigration tags > 0 or # of alttag1 > 0 or # of altag2 > 0 > > -- > Richard Damonlt > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Richard Damon

On 11/19/17 4:46 PM, Donald E. Lake wrote: > I have installed TMG v9 from disc on a new PC. Restored the projects from flash drive. No problems. Now when I exit from a project and try to backup, I get the following message: “Input file read failure. Occurs when a file read operation is performed on a Zip file locked or restricted.” Have not had any trouble in the past. > > Would appreciate any help I can get to make the backup work so I can get back to working. > > Thanks. > > Don A possible problem is that your backup directory is pointing to someplace TMG can't write to. If you put your project under 'My Documents', then the path to that is likely different on your new machine. (One reason I don't place my project there, but put all my genealogical files under C:\Genealogy, that way it is in the same place on every machine, so no path problems). -- Richard Damon

At 11/19/2017 16:46, Donald E. Lake wrote >I have installed TMG v9 from disc on a new >PC. Restored the projects from flash drive. No >problems. Now when I exit from a project and >try to backup, I get the following message: >“Input file read failure. Occurs when a file >read operation is performed on a Zip file locked >or restricted.” Have not had any trouble in >the past. Would appreciate any help I can get to >make the backup work so I can get back to working. What is the destination of the backup? That error message usually means that you are doing a backup to a thumbdrive. Make the backup to your TMG Backup folder and then copy it to the thumbdrive. Lee

Just to throw in some trivia. My machine currently takes 61 minutes to create a web site using Second Site - 703,000 people with 14,000 exhibits. The same machine (Mac Pro with SSD drives and 64Gb of RAM) takes around 28 hours to export a Gedcom from TMG. The SS speed I can live with - an hour means I have to take a break from data entry. 28 hours I can’t live with so I politely decline requests for gedcoms of my data, As an aside, my largest TMG file is now 1.6Gb, which is getting scarily close to TMG’s absolute 2Gb limit. So hoping HRE is ready in time! Regards Darryl _______ Interested in the British peerage? See my website at www.thepeerage.com > Begin forwarded message: > > From: [email protected] > Subject: TMG Digest, Vol 12, Issue 516 > Date: 19 November 2017 at 4:25:10 PM NZDT > To: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

I have installed TMG v9 from disc on a new PC. Restored the projects from flash drive. No problems. Now when I exit from a project and try to backup, I get the following message: “Input file read failure. Occurs when a file read operation is performed on a Zip file locked or restricted.” Have not had any trouble in the past. Would appreciate any help I can get to make the backup work so I can get back to working. Thanks. Don

Basically GEDCOM defines the creation of a text file, so it cannot include media in a native form. A definition for 'embedded multimedia' was added in version 5.4 (the BLOB tag), remained in GEDCOM 5.5 (see Appendix E of the definition), but was dropped in the 5.5.1 draft. The encode/decode definition was convoluted and ambiguous (like most of GEDCOM) and I have never seen any program actually implement it. Given the confusion over what parts of 5.x various programs actually DO support, I would not guarantee its validity in any case. Thus, if you ignore this 'embedded' function, all that a GEDCOM file can carry is a path statement to where images lie - which will be on the creator's computer and thus largely useless to a GEDCOM recipient unless the sender takes the trouble to package media files together with the GEDCOM file. Don F -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee Hoffman/KY Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 3:21 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TMG] Slow GEDCOM Export At 11/18/2017 17:57, John Cardinal wrote >I am not an expert on exporting GEDCOMs from TMG, but my experience is that >they take a long time. To make sure I wasn't misremembering, I just did a >test and exported my 27,000 member project and it took 20 minutes. In my >opinion, that's slow. Backing up my project is much faster, no more than a >minute. I have never noted a GEDCOM export to take more than a few minutes. However, I have never exported a GEDCOM with more than a few thousand persons. I have noted that TMG takes longer to export a GEDCOM as the number of person increased. Also an export of a subset of a data set will also increase the length of time. A recent export of a 5000 person subset took quite a long time (15 - 20 minutes?). Having TMG create a new project of that same subset and then exporting a GEDCOM from the new project took a total of about 8 minutes. >I did include exhibits in the GEDCOM file. I don't think TMG will include >internal image exhibits (I don't have any), but it did include external >image exhibits (GEDCOM 5.5 supports that) and it also exported internal text >exhibits. The external image exhibits should not slow TMG down. It doesn't >copy the image files, it writes the path to the file in the GEDCOM file. Hmm! I vaguely remember discussions about including multimedia files in a GEDCOM and later GEDCOM version specs (not sure of the earlier versions) speak to having the file in the GEDCOM in "encoded multimedia lines". Thus the file would be encoded and fully included in the GEDCOM file. My vague recollection of that time is that such encoding had a lot of problems. Including File Paths would get around that problem assuming that the exported GEDCOM was to be imported on the same computer. Otherwise, I would think there would be a lot of work required to prepare the GEDCOM for import on another computer. Lee The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message