Terry: When printing a TMG family group sheet with one stepchild and 8 biological children, the stepchild (Dau-Ste) shows in the table of events on the left side (even colorized) but not in the summary box of 8 children on the right side. --Ida Skarson McCormick, [email protected] ---------------------------- --------------------------- Subject: Re: [TMG] Adopted Child Relationship From: "Terry Reigel" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, December 7, 2017 5:37 pm To: "The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List" <[email protected]> Ron, Yes, there is. So far as TMG is concerned, there is only one kind of parent/child relationship - a biological one. No matter what label you put on it -- adopted, step, god, etc. -- if you make it primary TMG considers it a biological relationship. Terry Reigel The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- On 12/7/2017 7:23 PM, Ron Chenier wrote: I've just noticed that a child who I added to my database with both Father as ADO and Mother as ADO parents is still related to me according to TMG Relations. I've refreshed the relationship in Preferences but it still indicates we're related. If the child is adopted how can it be related to me? Is there an explanation for this?
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I have followed Terry Reigel's instructions to run as Administrator to unlock TMG but that doesn't unlock the program to run as an ordinary user. This means that I have to ALWAYS run as as an Administrator or enter the unlock key. Has anybody got any further suggestions? Sue
Thanks for your thoughts, Dennis I forgot about TMG still being unable to use higher memory. However, hopefully other programs will be using it! I'll check System Mechanic operation with the IOLO company, and see what its load is. In Task Manager, the highest memory users seem to be: Anti-Virus 240,000K Thunderbird 172,000K Firefox 312,000K - these 3 are always running when I'm using TMG. Maybe I need to experiment with the last 2. And of course there are 82 occasions of SVChost running - all of different sizes! Is there any way to find just which programs are running in the 2Gb area of RAM, so I can see what is crowding TMG? No, I have not set up to use drive compression, as I have lots of drive space. Bruce Fairhall On 2/12/2017 8:25 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: At 10:00 PM 12/1/2017, Bruce W Fairhall wrote: I'm glad you had some success, Tom. My project (39,000 people, all Exhibits external) is still running slow! I have a new PC with a modern processor and 16Gb of RAM, running fully TMG is still a 32-bit program, and will only use 2GB as user-space. updated Windows 10 Home. System Mechanic is running continuously, and has file fragmentation always below 1%. This could be having a small effect, as TMG activity will be touching many files over and over (every time you change focus person TMG has to access multiple event records, name records, etc. depending upon what windows are normally open in your layout). If System Mechanic acts on file/directory activity, it may be trying to defragment TMGs data files each time you make a move in the data. My Project is stored in the default \Documents\... location on the Hard Drive, which is less than 30% full. Another possibility: Is your system configured to have the drive (directory) space automatically compressed? If it is, you are constantly decompressing and recompressing the files as you move about in the data. -- [1][email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber [2]HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ The TMG archive is found here: [3]http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: [4]http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. http://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ 3. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ 4. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html 5. mailto:[email protected]
Thank you Lee, Brian, Sue, Robin, Michael and all for your advice and thoughts on my question. I accept that I can't change the order of source template fields (other than by choosing a source element that will appear earlier on the template) The things that have helped me to reduce the difficulty for my uni student helper are - knowing the order in which elements will appear on a template as this has enabled me to choose a better source group for more logical output; Sue's online advice to save time by 1st using an existing source to play around with new fields, then going back to the source type itself to change in accordance with that; and creating custom names for various source elements eg Marriage Date, Birth Date, Burial Date all in the same date group, but which make it easier for my helper to know what the field is for. Thank you again Ann I do already have a tables of my source elements (standard and custom) so have used that to rearrange a few -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Gross Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:58 PM To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TMG] Can I relocate source elements on source templates? It's important to keep in mind that you cannot have the same Source Element in two Source Element Groups. This can lead to real difficulties if you want to use the same Source Element in different custom source templates. The Source Element "Volume", for example, is part of the [VOLUMES] Source Group. If you want to use "Volume" in a custom source template, all the other Source Elements in that template need to be from other Source Groups. It's really easy to get confused or to design yourself into a corner if you're not careful (I know, I have). I've found that using a spreadsheet that lists all my custom sources and the source elements is essential to keeping track of my custom elements. I strongly suggest your uni student do the same. I've listed three entries below so you can see how the spreadsheet idea works. Brian "Federal Census, 1900+, Household" "Book, authored, multivolume" "Book, compilers, et al., authored chapter" GROUP ELEMENT ELEMENT ELEMENT [TITLE] Title Title Title [SHORT TITLE] Short Title Short Title [SUBTITLE] Subtitle Subtitle [SHORT SUBTITLE] Chapter [RECORD TYPE] County [AUTHOR] Author Chapter Author [SUBJECT] Household [COMPILER] Compilers [EDITOR] [SECOND PERSON] Short Compilers [DATE] Publish Date Publish Date [SECOND DATE] [LOCATION] Location [SECOND LOCATION] State [PUBLISHER] Publisher Publisher [PUBLISHER LOCATION] Publisher Address Publisher Address [SERIES] Enumeration District [EDITION] Edition Edition [VERSION] Roll Num Volumes [VOLUMES] Page (stamped) Volume [PAGES] Page (penned) Page Page [REPOSITORY] [REPOSITORY INFO] [REPOSITORY REFERENCE] [FILE REFERENCE] Dwelling OCoLC Number OCoLC Number [RECORD NUMBER] Family OCLC Number OCLC Number [FILM NUMBER] Film Number [COMMENTS] M1 - M3 : Online source M1 - M3 : Online source M1 - M3 : Online source M4 - M7 : Not used M4 - M7 : Not used M4 - M7 : Not used M8 : Comments M8 : Comments M8 : Comments [CITATION DETAILS] CD CD [CITATION REFERENCE] [CITATION MEMO] [REPOSITORY MEMO] RM1: Repository Name RM1: Repository Name RM1: Repository Name RM2: Repository Location RM2: Repository Location RM2: Repository Location RM4: Repository State RM4: Repository State RM4: Repository State The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Andrew Clark wrote: > Thanks John for this. > > Follow up question please. > > Is this something I've done or is it an aberration in TMG? First, a big thank you to John for including this test in his Second Site software. As he notes there it is hard for TMG to recognize. Yes, Andrew, it is an aberration in TMG. In fact John was the one whose deductive work first found this condition in TMG v6 twelve years ago. It was very hard to replicate, and the most likely culprit was probably some strange condition when doing a set of merges. However, users do lots of merges and the creation of this condition is very, very rare. Again, thanks to John's software for testing for this. Michael
Andrew, I think it's a bug in TMG. The program should not allow there to be more than two primary parents. I do not know how the condition occurs, but I've never tried that hard to find out. Maybe someone else on TMG-L knows. John
Thanks John for this. Follow up question please. Is this something I've done or is it an aberration in TMG? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Cardinal Sent: Friday, 1 December 2017 9:47 AM To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TMG] Duplicate Primary Parents Andrew, See the SS FAQ entry for this topic: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fss.johncardinal.com%2Ffaq.htm%23multprim&data=02%7C01%7Candrew%40mysite.net.au%7Cdb0723f95ef6415393fd08d538445399%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636476788464299204&sdata=%2BuIFU9MwIKNL310rGGz4ag%2Foy%2FZUencOOX3l%2B3vCr%2FE%3D&reserved=0 The basic approach described there is to go to the child's record in TMG and toggle the primary father (or mother, as the case may be) to off. When you do that, the current version of the link to the father will become non-primary, and will drop down into the tag list. That will allow you to see the other primary record. From there, you can review the two records and decide which you want to be primary, which you want to delete, etc. John The TMG archive is found here: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7Candrew%40mysite.net.au%7Cdb0723f95ef6415393fd08d538445399%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636476788464299204&sdata=mf2PTdh7pTFNAKVhVFczcf5uRn%2BPqKXJyr5%2B39gQfy8%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7Candrew%40mysite.net.au%7Cdb0723f95ef6415393fd08d538445399%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636476788464299204&sdata=6%2B2tgDmsu%2FVeeaPooWtka%2FtDsHl2cM%2Ffsxf6cp8%2FQps%3D&reserved=0 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
At 10:58 PM 12/3/2017, Bruce W Fairhall wrote: > > Is there any way to find just which programs are running in the 2Gb > area of RAM, so I can see what is crowding TMG? It's not a case of multiple programs in a single 2GB region. I believe the OS can map each 32-bit program to any physical memory -- it is just that each such program is limited to addressing only 2GB (user data space [heap/stack], with 2GB for system shared libraries). Some programs that exceed the 2GB space may implement their own paging files (I know 32-bit Photoshop is configurable to use specified drives for paging images, rather than limiting itself to the OS 2GB address range). I only mentioned the limitation as having a larger memory space will not, on its own, allow TMG itself to make use of it (a quick test showed mine only took 42MB while generating a journal report; Firefox at 487MB is my hog, followed by the Windows Search Indexer at 202MB). Unless your system approaches 90% memory utilization, the odds are that all running processes are scattered within the available memory. > No, I have not set up to use drive compression, as I have lots of drive > space. Another factor could be if the drive is set up for Indexing (fast searching). From the Task Manager/Performance page, open the Resource Monitor -- and see if anything pops out while working in TMG. -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/
I'm glad you had some success, Tom. My project (39,000 people, all Exhibits external) is still running slow! I have a new PC with a modern processor and 16Gb of RAM, running fully updated Windows 10 Home. System Mechanic is running continuously, and has file fragmentation always below 1%. My Project is stored in the default \Documents\... location on the Hard Drive, which is less than 30% full. Task Manager shows 4-20% of CPU in use and 20% of Memory as I write this with Thunderbird and TMG open. If I try to Add a Person, open a Tag, or even open Preferences, it takes 10-12 seconds to enable me to enter any data. From the suggestions in this post I: - turned off Accents (all based on Flags only) completely, - now have Project Explorer sorting on ID Number but that Window is not open at present, and - turned off the Display Age column. Still no improvement! Entering or editing data is a painfully slow process. Any suggestions welcome, please. Bruce Fairhall On 2/12/2017 6:27 AM, Tom Coughlan wrote: Thank you John, Paul and Michael. I checked all suggestions made by John but found everything in order. But there seems no end to the surprises - mostly good, fortunately - that TMG holds. As Paul and Michael's wondered, I did indeed have an accent based on the ID No. rather than a flag. Setting a new flag and basing the accent on that resolved the issue immediately. I also followed Paul's advice and checked the Performance Recommendations. And, there, of course at the very top, is a warning that Accents based on flags or switched off are likely to yeild better performance. So thank you all for your help; issue solved. Tom Coughlan
Ahhhhhhh--- should have caught that for sure! Will double check the source (a recently found family Bible) and then deal with fixing it. Thank-you all for your help! Sydney On 12/1/2017 6:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 12/1/17 8:28 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> At 06:26 PM 12/1/2017, Sydney wrote: >>> The daughter's birth is entered with a date as 31 Sep 1804 with the >>> sort date entered the same way. On the >> >> "30 days hath September; April, June, and November" >> >> September 31 would be an irregular date, and likely has >> irregular rules for sorting. >> >> -- >> [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber >> HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ >> > Irregular dates have very defined rules for sorting, they sort > strictly alphabetically (I think based on ASCII codes) and all > irregular date sort before all regular dates. >
At 10:00 PM 12/1/2017, Bruce W Fairhall wrote: > I'm glad you had some success, Tom. > My project (39,000 people, all Exhibits external) is still running > slow! > I have a new PC with a modern processor and 16Gb of RAM, running fully TMG is still a 32-bit program, and will only use 2GB as user-space. > updated Windows 10 Home. > System Mechanic is running continuously, and has file fragmentation > always below 1%. This could be having a small effect, as TMG activity will be touching many files over and over (every time you change focus person TMG has to access multiple event records, name records, etc. depending upon what windows are normally open in your layout). If System Mechanic acts on file/directory activity, it may be trying to defragment TMGs data files each time you make a move in the data. > My Project is stored in the default \Documents\... location on the Hard > Drive, which is less than 30% full. Another possibility: Is your system configured to have the drive (directory) space automatically compressed? If it is, you are constantly decompressing and recompressing the files as you move about in the data. -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/
At 08:45 PM 12/1/2017, Richard Damon wrote: >Irregular dates have very defined rules for sorting, they sort strictly >alphabetically (I think based on ASCII codes) and all irregular date >sort before all regular dates. I didn't mean to imply "random" sorting, but merely that they likely did not follow what one might mentally think they sorted as... As you state, they sort before regular dates -- hence not "numerically" (which a YYYYMMDD sort would produce even for invalid DD values) -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/
On 12/1/17 8:28 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > At 06:26 PM 12/1/2017, Sydney wrote: >> The daughter's birth is entered with a date as 31 Sep 1804 with the >> sort date entered the same way. On the > > "30 days hath September; April, June, and November" > > September 31 would be an irregular date, and likely has > irregular rules for sorting. > > -- > [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber > HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ > Irregular dates have very defined rules for sorting, they sort strictly alphabetically (I think based on ASCII codes) and all irregular date sort before all regular dates. -- Richard Damon
At 06:26 PM 12/1/2017, Sydney wrote: >The daughter's birth is entered with a date as 31 Sep 1804 with the >sort date entered the same way. On the "30 days hath September; April, June, and November" September 31 would be an irregular date, and likely has irregular rules for sorting. -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/
I have actually seen records with invalid dates of the "Sep 31" type, but I would put 30 Sep as the sort date with a note that says the record actually has the non-existent date, so people will know it isn't my error. On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Rick Moffat <[email protected]> wrote: > Is Sep 31 really the date you are using? It is not a valid date. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 1, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Richard Damon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 12/1/17 6:26 PM, Sydney wrote: >>> Hi List >>> >>> This is driving me NUTS! I can't figure out why I have a Dau-Bio tag that stays sorted in the detail screens of her parents at the top. It looks fine on the daughter's detail screen (sorts correctly before her death in 1813), but when I go to the parents, it does not sort properly. >>> >>> The daughter's birth is entered with a date as 31 Sep 1804 with the sort date entered the same way. On the parent screens, the birth comes up at the top- so her birth is before the father's birth on 09 Apr 1777 on his screen, and similarly on the mother's screen it shows this birth in 1804 before the mother's birth in 1783. >>> >>> Any ideas what the cause could be and a fix? I've run the file maintenance over & over- & restarted the computer to no avail. I'm a little under the weather, so maybe I did something stupid- but what? There's no problem with the other siblings. >>> >>> Would appreciate any help- >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sydney Delfs >> >> For the Daughter, it won't be a Dau-Bio tag connecting her to her parents, those would be mother/father-bio tags (the relationship tag is really just a -bio tag, and the fat/mot/par/son/dau/chi is added based on the which side of the relationship you are on, and the sex of the other person). >> >> If you see a Dau-Bio tag in the daughters detail list, that indicates that she is the mother of the indicated person. (Could this tag be backwards?) >> >> It also shouldn't show in the detail list of the child if it is primary, as it would move up into the Father/Mother blocks. >> -- >> >> Richard Damon >> >> The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you John, Paul and Michael. I checked all suggestions made by John but found everything in order. But there seems no end to the surprises - mostly good, fortunately - that TMG holds. As Paul and Michael's wondered, I did indeed have an accent based on the ID No. rather than a flag. Setting a new flag and basing the accent on that resolved the issue immediately. I also followed Paul's advice and checked the Performance Recommendations. And, there, of course at the very top, is a warning that Accents based on flags or switched off are likely to yeild better performance. So thank you all for your help; issue solved. Tom Coughlan On 01/12/2017 18:49, Michael J Hannah wrote: > Tom, > > In addition to John's questions, is there anything different about the > display attributes of the two projects (one slow, one fast)? > > Is the slow one using people Accent colors which are not based on Flags? > > Does the slow one have the Project Explorer filtered and also linked > to other windows? > > Michael > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
On 12/1/17 6:26 PM, Sydney wrote: > Hi List > > This is driving me NUTS! I can't figure out why I have a Dau-Bio tag > that stays sorted in the detail screens of her parents at the top. It > looks fine on the daughter's detail screen (sorts correctly before her > death in 1813), but when I go to the parents, it does not sort properly. > > The daughter's birth is entered with a date as 31 Sep 1804 with the > sort date entered the same way. On the parent screens, the birth > comes up at the top- so her birth is before the father's birth on 09 > Apr 1777 on his screen, and similarly on the mother's screen it shows > this birth in 1804 before the mother's birth in 1783. > > Any ideas what the cause could be and a fix? I've run the file > maintenance over & over- & restarted the computer to no avail. I'm a > little under the weather, so maybe I did something stupid- but what? > There's no problem with the other siblings. > > Would appreciate any help- > > Thanks, > Sydney Delfs For the Daughter, it won't be a Dau-Bio tag connecting her to her parents, those would be mother/father-bio tags (the relationship tag is really just a -bio tag, and the fat/mot/par/son/dau/chi is added based on the which side of the relationship you are on, and the sex of the other person). If you see a Dau-Bio tag in the daughters detail list, that indicates that she is the mother of the indicated person. (Could this tag be backwards?) It also shouldn't show in the detail list of the child if it is primary, as it would move up into the Father/Mother blocks. -- Richard Damon
Is Sep 31 really the date you are using? It is not a valid date. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 1, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Richard Damon <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 12/1/17 6:26 PM, Sydney wrote: >> Hi List >> >> This is driving me NUTS! I can't figure out why I have a Dau-Bio tag that stays sorted in the detail screens of her parents at the top. It looks fine on the daughter's detail screen (sorts correctly before her death in 1813), but when I go to the parents, it does not sort properly. >> >> The daughter's birth is entered with a date as 31 Sep 1804 with the sort date entered the same way. On the parent screens, the birth comes up at the top- so her birth is before the father's birth on 09 Apr 1777 on his screen, and similarly on the mother's screen it shows this birth in 1804 before the mother's birth in 1783. >> >> Any ideas what the cause could be and a fix? I've run the file maintenance over & over- & restarted the computer to no avail. I'm a little under the weather, so maybe I did something stupid- but what? There's no problem with the other siblings. >> >> Would appreciate any help- >> >> Thanks, >> Sydney Delfs > > For the Daughter, it won't be a Dau-Bio tag connecting her to her parents, those would be mother/father-bio tags (the relationship tag is really just a -bio tag, and the fat/mot/par/son/dau/chi is added based on the which side of the relationship you are on, and the sex of the other person). > > If you see a Dau-Bio tag in the daughters detail list, that indicates that she is the mother of the indicated person. (Could this tag be backwards?) > > It also shouldn't show in the detail list of the child if it is primary, as it would move up into the Father/Mother blocks. > -- > > Richard Damon > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message