Kurt, Why is your site unmanageable? Splitting your project into pieces will increase some of the maintenance (source templates, event definitions), and if the same person appears in more than one line, you'll have that duplication as well. I recommend that you stick with one project and solve whatever issue is making the site unmanageable. John -----Original Message----- From: Morsø Anecentral <[email protected]> My entire project for my family is becoming unimaginable. I therefore consider the pros and cons of splitting up a branch for each of my grandparents. However, overlaps occur, so if you think it's a good idea, how do you handle these coincidences?

Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2018, at 09:22, [email protected] wrote: > > Send TMG mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TMG digest..." > > The TMG archive is at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > How to subscribe to TMG is at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Pros and cons of four seperate databases? (Morsø Anecentral) > 2. deleting many people (Erik Hov) > 3. Re: How to add exhibits? (Richard Damon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 10:54:37 +0100 > From: Morsø Anecentral <[email protected]> > Subject: [TMG] Pros and cons of four seperate databases? > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > My entire project for my family is becoming unimaginable. I therefore consider the pros and cons of splitting up a branch for each of my grandparents. However, overlaps occur, so if you think it's a good idea, how do you handle these coincidences? > — > Regards > Kurt Hansen > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 11:40:38 +0100 > From: Erik Hov <[email protected]> > Subject: [TMG] deleting many people > To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I need to delete about 18000 people from my project. Apparently it is not > possible to delete many people at a time without deleting the linking > between them. Also ,I can`t follow Terry`s deleting instructions moving them > over to another dataset since my project is so large that the cdx will > exceed the 2GB limit. Any way of deleting the links between those about > 18000 people and then delete them through Project explorer or focusgroup? I > have flagged and accented all the about 18000 people. Have them in the focus > group just now ,but don`t know what to do to delete them without manually > deleting the link between them!. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 09:02:07 -0500 > From: Richard Damon <[email protected]> > Subject: [TMG] Re: How to add exhibits? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > >> On 3/10/18 4:39 AM, Morsø Anecentral wrote: >> I'm »new« to TMG after a break for +10 years. I want to add an exhibit to a wedding (PDF-file). How do I do that? It doesn’t seem logic to me. >> — >> Kurt Hansen > > Adding an exhibit to a tag is fairly simple. Open the tag, then press > the camera icon in the upper right, and select the file. > > The one big issue you may run into is that TMG has no way to output a > PDF exhibit, it isn't the sort of file TMG can handle. (Second Site can > add a link to the PDF as an external file), and TMG will warn you about > this. TMG can only include images or simple text exhibits in its reports. > > If the PDF is short (a single image, etc) you may get better results > converting it to an image (or basic text) and attaching that (text will > lose the formatting) > > -- > Richard Damon > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > To post a message to the TMG mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to %(real_name)[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of TMG Digest, Vol 13, Issue 35 > ***********************************

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The JoinMe code for this meeting is rugmeeting. The code below is incorrect. -----Original Message----- From: TMG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Janis Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:56 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Arlington "RUG" (TMG Users group) meeting Saturday, January 13, 2018 The Roots Users Group "RUG" of Arlington, Virginia (TMG Users group in the Washington, DC area and online) will meet on Saturday, January 13, 2018, from 9:00 am to 12:00 pm (Eastern Standard Time). 09:00 - 10:15 Ancestors in the US Military: Online and in Military Archives, presented by Dr. Margaret McMahon. 10:15 - 10:30 Break 10:30 - 12:00 TMG Excels: Identifying Reports That Scream, 'I Need a Spreadsheet!' by Susan Johnston ATTENTION: NEW ACCESS CODE. All are invited to attend the meeting in person or join us online via Join.Me. Our online meeting is open to everyone, not just members! For online access, download the FREE Join.Me app from the http://www.join.me/apps website, install it and join our meeting using our JOIN.ME access code: “rugmeeting2” without quotes. There is a Q&A page on the Join.Me site which can help if you are having difficulties. http://help.join.me/knowledgebase. NOTE: Please make certain you update Join.me well before the meeting and try to familiarize yourself with the somewhat revised interface. MEETING LOCATION: We still meet 'in person' in Northern Virginia near Tyson's Corner, about 2 miles inside the beltway (I-495) on Route 123. Members and guests are welcome! We meet in the newer building on the lower level. Trinity United Methodist Church (UMC) 1205 Dolley Madison Boulevard McLean, Virginia 22101 The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3/10/18 4:39 AM, Morsø Anecentral wrote: > I'm »new« to TMG after a break for +10 years. I want to add an exhibit to a wedding (PDF-file). How do I do that? It doesn’t seem logic to me. > — > Kurt Hansen Adding an exhibit to a tag is fairly simple. Open the tag, then press the camera icon in the upper right, and select the file. The one big issue you may run into is that TMG has no way to output a PDF exhibit, it isn't the sort of file TMG can handle. (Second Site can add a link to the PDF as an external file), and TMG will warn you about this. TMG can only include images or simple text exhibits in its reports. If the PDF is short (a single image, etc) you may get better results converting it to an image (or basic text) and attaching that (text will lose the formatting) -- Richard Damon

I need to delete about 18000 people from my project. Apparently it is not possible to delete many people at a time without deleting the linking between them. Also ,I can`t follow Terry`s deleting instructions moving them over to another dataset since my project is so large that the cdx will exceed the 2GB limit. Any way of deleting the links between those about 18000 people and then delete them through Project explorer or focusgroup? I have flagged and accented all the about 18000 people. Have them in the focus group just now ,but don`t know what to do to delete them without manually deleting the link between them!.

My entire project for my family is becoming unimaginable. I therefore consider the pros and cons of splitting up a branch for each of my grandparents. However, overlaps occur, so if you think it's a good idea, how do you handle these coincidences? — Regards Kurt Hansen

Thank you very much, Lee. I will take a look at it and return if I have any problems. — Regards Kurt Hansen > Den 9. mar. 2018 kl. 15.38 skrev Lee Hoffman <[email protected]>: > > At 3/8/2018 23:56, Kurt Hansen - Danacord wrote >> I want to make a separate project for one of the persons i my database. I want to save as a new project with the person + spouses, children and their spouses and children. In short: Everything! >> >> How do I do that? And will this tree be deleted in my actual database. If not, can I select to do that if I wish to do so > except for the >> focuus person, spouses and children? >> -- > > There are a number of ways to split a project, but most are variations of each other. Probably the most used methods are based on the List of People report and its Secondary Output feature. > > You first identify the persons to be split out. There are three ways to do this: > 1. Select and highlight the persons in the Project Explorer. > 2. Create a Focus Group of the persons. > 3. Create a Filtered Group in the List of People report. > > Once you have that, open the List of People report Definition Screen, and select that option as the Subject(s) of the report. If you want a listing of the persons selected, choose the Report Destination. Click on the [Options...] button to open that window. Make any desired selected here being sure to click on the Secondary Output tab, and selecting the Create New Project option entering the desired location and name for the new project. > > I keep all my projects in sub-folders of the User Data Files Projects folder -- one project to a sub-folder. As long as each project has a unique name, you can keep multiple project in a single folder. But, I prefer to keep them separate in case I want to store other files related to that project "with" the project. Having separate folders for each project also helps _me_ keep them separate mentally as well as facilitate any file management issues I might have. > > At this point, all that is left is to clicke on the [Options] window [OK] button, and then click on the [Create Report] button of the List of People Report Definition Screen. When it completes, your new project files will be where you selected in the Secondary Output. > > Once the new project is complete, the old project remains as it was. So the last step is the removal of the persons split out. There are two ways to do this. One is to create a new project that is essentially the reverse of what you just did above. This is probably the easiest way although creating Focus Groups or Filter Groups is usually more complex than just the small group split. This leaves the second method, which is manually deleting each person that is no longer desired in the project. In other words, it is not easy. This is by design so that you don't inadvertently delete data that you really want to keep. > > Lee > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

Where can I find a manual for TMG 9? I guess it is not printed (yet)? — Kurt Hansen

I'm »new« to TMG after a break for +10 years. I want to add an exhibit to a wedding (PDF-file). How do I do that? It doesn’t seem logic to me. — Kurt Hansen

At 3/8/2018 23:56, Kurt Hansen - Danacord wrote >I want to make a separate project for one of the >persons i my database. I want to save as a new >project with the person + spouses, children and >their spouses and children. In short: Everything! > >How do I do that? And will this tree be deleted >in my actual database. If not, can I select to >do that if I wish to do so … except for the >focuus person, spouses and children? >-- There are a number of ways to split a project, but most are variations of each other. Probably the most used methods are based on the List of People report and its Secondary Output feature. You first identify the persons to be split out. There are three ways to do this: 1. Select and highlight the persons in the Project Explorer. 2. Create a Focus Group of the persons. 3. Create a Filtered Group in the List of People report. Once you have that, open the List of People report Definition Screen, and select that option as the Subject(s) of the report. If you want a listing of the persons selected, choose the Report Destination. Click on the [Options...] button to open that window. Make any desired selected here being sure to click on the Secondary Output tab, and selecting the Create New Project option entering the desired location and name for the new project. I keep all my projects in sub-folders of the User Data Files Projects folder -- one project to a sub-folder. As long as each project has a unique name, you can keep multiple project in a single folder. But, I prefer to keep them separate in case I want to store other files related to that project "with" the project. Having separate folders for each project also helps _me_ keep them separate mentally as well as facilitate any file management issues I might have. At this point, all that is left is to clicke on the [Options] window [OK] button, and then click on the [Create Report] button of the List of People Report Definition Screen. When it completes, your new project files will be where you selected in the Secondary Output. Once the new project is complete, the old project remains as it was. So the last step is the removal of the persons split out. There are two ways to do this. One is to create a new project that is essentially the reverse of what you just did above. This is probably the easiest way although creating Focus Groups or Filter Groups is usually more complex than just the small group split. This leaves the second method, which is manually deleting each person that is no longer desired in the project. In other words, it is not easy. This is by design so that you don't inadvertently delete data that you really want to keep. Lee

I want to make a separate project for one of the persons i my database. I want to save as a new project with the person + spouses, children and their spouses and children. In short: Everything! How do I do that? And will this tree be deleted in my actual database. If not, can I select to do that if I wish to do so … except for the focus person, spouses and children? -- Kind regards Kurt Hansen

TMG-L subscribers, It's nice to have TMG-L back! There have been a few updates while Rootsweb lists were down: 1 - Second Site 6.04 was released on February 23rd. There will be another release soon, probably Monday, March 12. Version 6.04 has a couple important changes related to secure (HTTPS) sites. See: https://goo.gl/BEXjin 2 - My web hosting company, Family History Hosting, now offers special "Archive" hosting plans designed to keep your project online for an extended time. See: https://goo.gl/kWckNv 3 - GedSite, a web site builder for GEDCOM files, now reads TMG projects directly. That avoids using GEDCOM files written by TMG with GedSite. Second Site is still the best choice for creating web sites from TMG data, but depending on your needs, you may be interested in GedSite. See: https://goo.gl/Na4Cbn It's winter in the northern hemisphere, and it's been stormy where I live. Luckily, spring is right around the corner! John

See the announcement posted 6 March at www.rootsweb.com/ for information about the list archives. John On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 05:20:51PM -0500, Constance Chappell Horne wrote: > Our list appears to be back up but there are no archives (yet?). > > The archives are here: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > I am working to understand any needed settings at this time.

TMG Mailing list is back :) On 8 March 2018 at 09:13, Constance Chappell Horne <[email protected] > wrote: > TEST > > -- > Constance Chappell Horne > TMG List Administrator > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >

Our list appears to be back up but there are no archives (yet?). The archives are here: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ I am working to understand any needed settings at this time. -- Constance Chappell Horne TMG List Administrator

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The Roots Users Group "RUG" of Arlington, Virginia (the Washington, DC area TMG Users group) will meet on Saturday, March 10, 2018, from 9:00 am to 12:00 pm (Eastern Standard Time). 09:00 - 10:15 Looking at Roots Magic Software presented by Jerry Bryan via Join.Me 10:15 - 10:30 Break 10:30 - 12:00 Looking at Roots Magic Software (continued) by Jerry Bryan via Join.Me Followed by TMG Work Session (time permitting) ACCESS CODE HAS CHANGED AGAIN. All are invited to attend the meeting in person or join us online via Join.Me. Our online meeting is open to everyone, not just members! For online access, download the FREE Join.Me app from the http://www.join.me/apps website, install it and join our meeting using our JOIN.ME access code: “rugmeeting" without quotes. There is a Q&A page on the Join.Me site which can help if you are having difficulties. http://help.join.me/knowledgebase. NOTE: Please make certain you update Join.me well before the meeting and try to familiarize yourself with the somewhat revised interface. MEETING LOCATION: We still meet 'in person' in Northern Virginia near Tyson's Corner, about 2 miles inside the beltway (I-495) on Route 123. Members and guests are welcome! We meet in the newer building on the lower level. Trinity United Methodist Church (UMC) 1205 Dolley Madison Boulevard McLean, Virginia 22101

Thank you again, John and Marc -- all done, all fixed!  At last, I can get back to real genealogy! Lindsay Graham On 24/1/18 01:44, John Cardinal wrote: > Lindsay, > > For some reason, I skipped over the "Court" and "Image" tag types when reading the message you sent me, so I didn't know they were broken and I didn't fix them. > > If I repair the files you already sent me, you'll lose whatever you have done since then, like adding roles that were missing or had empty sentences. > > Given you don't care about the actual content of the sentence templates, you can use the approach Marc suggested: > > - In TMG, Make a backup of your project. > > - In TMG, create new event types "Court2" and "Image2". Make sure you define all the existing roles in both of the new tag types. > > - In TMG Utility, change the event types for "Court" to "Court2" and "Image" to "Image2". > > - In TMG, delete the "Court" and "Image" tag types. > > - In TMG, rename "Court2" to "Court", and "Image2" to "Image". > > John > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good thought, Marc -- I did actually think of that earlier, but forgot about it when I sent the last email.  If no success in other ways, I'll look more closely at that -- should be fairly easy for me, as I do not use sentences, just have to insert the dummy sentence in each role for the 2 new tags. Lindsay ----------Original message---------- From: Marc Erlitz <[email protected]> To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: 24/1/18 00:12 Subject: Re: [TMG] Disappearing role sentences > Lindsay , > > Why not create 2 new tag types, say Court2 and Image2? Recreate all the sentences you have previously defined for these tags. Then use TMG Utilities to change all instances of Court and Image to the new tag types. When all is done, delete the original tag types and then rename the new ones back to their original names. Especially if you do not have too many sentences defined for these 2 tag types, it might be worth the trouble. > > Marc > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: TMG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Lindsay Graham >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:47 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TMG] Disappearing role sentences >> >> John Cardinal, you have provided wonderful help -- a thank you seems so >> inadequate, but thank you nevertheless. >> >> The problem seems to be partially fixed, but not fully.  After using the >> repaired files you sent, I went through the following sequence: >> >> 1. made the limited site in SS -- 15 Role not found errors, which were all for >> the custom tags Image and Court (ie, those for the standard tags Baptism and >> Engagement did not recur); 2. made an SS site of all people in my project -- >> 102 (the maximum) Role not found errors, all for Baptism, Engagement, Court >> and Image tag types; 3. went through the Baptism and Engagement tag types >> in TMG and successfully added the dummy sentences to each role; 4. went >> through the Court and Image tag types in TMG and tried unsuccessfully to add >> the dummy sentences to each role -- as before, they disappeared as soon as I >> exited the Roles and Sentences tab, although they remain in the Sentence and >> Witness Sentence fields of the previous screen; 5. repeated step 1 -- same >> result as above; 6. repeated step 2 -- only 58 Role not found errors, all for >> the custom Court and Image tag types (ie, the Baptism and Engagement errors >> did not recur). >> >> All this suggests that John successfully identified the problem for the standard >> Baptism and Engagement tag types, but may not have fixed (or tried to fix) the >> custom Court and Image tag types.  Is there anything you can do with that, >> John?  Can you work with the file I sent you or should I send another similar? >> >> Questions that occur to me are: >> >> * did the corruptions in the tag type entries arise from something I did? or >> was it just another unsolved computer mystery? >> * any idea how/why it arose in 4 tag types and no others? >> * is there anything I can do to prevent the problem recurring in the future? >> >> Lindsay (in a sweltering summer Canberra) >> >> >> <snip earlier messages>