Robert, A similar question was just asked on the WhollyGenes Forum (which is still accepting posts). See my suggestions here: http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?/topic/17941-hiding-data/#entry70621

Don, I don't know who sent you the "invitation" but the only person I know who has licenses to sell for the final Version 9 is Harry Goegebeur. See the WhollyGenes Forum post here: http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?/topic/15915-tmg9-final-installers-v905/ If you have a version that begins with "9." then you do not need a new license. However, you can still upgrade your 9.04 to 9.05 simply by downloading and running the installer program for 9.05. I would recommend doing that. The links to both the US and UK installer programs are in the Forum post mentioned above.

I need to create a Gedcom file for MyHeritage and finally created a focus group that makes a good gedcom of 6 generations of ancestors, 5 generations of their descendants, and all their spouses.  I used "suppress details of living people" which eliminated their events, but still output their names and sex.  I don't have permission from all these people to publish their names and family relationships on the web.  Is there a way to not list them in the gedcom?  If not, can I edit the gedcom to either eliminate them or change their names to "Private?"

Not here, at least not to the address I use for this list. Judy Madnick Albany, NY On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 12:30 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > No spam here. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Lee Bieber" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37:12 PM > Subject: [TMG] Possibly a coincidence... > > > > ... But it seems that ever since the TMG mailing list went active > again, I'm receiving two to four spam messages a day sent to the > email address I use with this list (I don't really use > "bieber.genealogy" for anything else, given that I have three other > addresses with my ISP along with ARRL and ACM forwarding addresses). > > Just wondering if anyone else has noticed an increase in junk mail > in the last few days? > > > (Now to figure out why Pandora seems unable to send using this > personality, so had to revert to Eudora) > > > -- > [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber > HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >

No spam here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Lee Bieber" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37:12 PM Subject: [TMG] Possibly a coincidence... ... But it seems that ever since the TMG mailing list went active again, I'm receiving two to four spam messages a day sent to the email address I use with this list (I don't really use "bieber.genealogy" for anything else, given that I have three other addresses with my ISP along with ARRL and ACM forwarding addresses). Just wondering if anyone else has noticed an increase in junk mail in the last few days? (Now to figure out why Pandora seems unable to send using this personality, so had to revert to Eudora) -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/ The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

On 3/11/2018 9:25 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Whilst RootsWeb was off line I received an invite to update my TMG 9.04 UK edition. Is this legit or a scam? I thought the company had given up on supporting the product and there would be no more updates? Don, There was an update to TMG 9.04, that is to 9.05, just before Wholly Genes ended support of TMG several years ago. I can't imagine who could have legitimately send you a notice about that recently. If you do want to update, you can download the installer for TMG 9.05 UK from the Wholly Genes website, at: http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg9uksetup.exe Terry Reigel

On 3/11/18 9:25 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Whilst RootsWeb was off line I received an invite to update my TMG 9.04 UK edition. Is this legit or a scam? I thought the company had given up on supporting the product and there would be no more updates? > > > Don Sutherland The most recent version of TMG is 9.05, and that was released just before Whollygenes ended support -- Richard Damon

Whilst RootsWeb was off line I received an invite to update my TMG 9.04 UK edition. Is this legit or a scam? I thought the company had given up on supporting the product and there would be no more updates? Don Sutherland

Walter, I'm pretty sure copyright laws prohibit sharing copies of PDFs or DVD media. You could possibly sell or give away your ORIGINAL DVDs, but not the copies or the PDF. Joyce -----Original Message----- From: Walter Wood [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 7:51 PM To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' Subject: [TMG] Re: A manual for TMG 9? There are two copies on The Master Genealogist 5.x User's Guide available now on Amazon for $11 with shipping. As others have noted, there have not been a lot of changes since it was published in 2003. I even have an extra copy that I would be willing to sell. I also have a copy of the PDF that was published in 2008. And, I have copies of the 4 TMG DVDs that I ripped for my own use. I wonder if Bob or someone from Wholly Genes would allow these to be shared? Walter

... But it seems that ever since the TMG mailing list went active again, I'm receiving two to four spam messages a day sent to the email address I use with this list (I don't really use "bieber.genealogy" for anything else, given that I have three other addresses with my ISP along with ARRL and ACM forwarding addresses). Just wondering if anyone else has noticed an increase in junk mail in the last few days? (Now to figure out why Pandora seems unable to send using this personality, so had to revert to Eudora) -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

I too have a file to split, and thanks for this info... My question: the focus person I want to put into a separate folder, leads back into the 1800's to the same parents as my original file. Will both files contain the information of the parents or will one of the files lose this information? -----Original Message----- From: Lee Hoffman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 6:38 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: How to split a project At 3/8/2018 23:56, Kurt Hansen - Danacord wrote >I want to make a separate project for one of the persons i my database. >I want to save as a new project with the person + spouses, children and >their spouses and children. In short: Everything! > >How do I do that? And will this tree be deleted in my actual database. >If not, can I select to do that if I wish to do so . except for the >focuus person, spouses and children? >-- There are a number of ways to split a project, but most are variations of each other. Probably the most used methods are based on the List of People report and its Secondary Output feature. You first identify the persons to be split out. There are three ways to do this: 1. Select and highlight the persons in the Project Explorer. 2. Create a Focus Group of the persons. 3. Create a Filtered Group in the List of People report. Once you have that, open the List of People report Definition Screen, and select that option as the Subject(s) of the report. If you want a listing of the persons selected, choose the Report Destination. Click on the [Options...] button to open that window. Make any desired selected here being sure to click on the Secondary Output tab, and selecting the Create New Project option entering the desired location and name for the new project. I keep all my projects in sub-folders of the User Data Files Projects folder -- one project to a sub-folder. As long as each project has a unique name, you can keep multiple project in a single folder. But, I prefer to keep them separate in case I want to store other files related to that project "with" the project. Having separate folders for each project also helps _me_ keep them separate mentally as well as facilitate any file management issues I might have. At this point, all that is left is to clicke on the [Options] window [OK] button, and then click on the [Create Report] button of the List of People Report Definition Screen. When it completes, your new project files will be where you selected in the Secondary Output. Once the new project is complete, the old project remains as it was. So the last step is the removal of the persons split out. There are two ways to do this. One is to create a new project that is essentially the reverse of what you just did above. This is probably the easiest way although creating Focus Groups or Filter Groups is usually more complex than just the small group split. This leaves the second method, which is manually deleting each person that is no longer desired in the project. In other words, it is not easy. This is by design so that you don't inadvertently delete data that you really want to keep. Lee The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

I don't know how people dare sell their copy, but second hand copies if Terry's book "A Primer for the Master Genealogist" are available in the UK through Amazon.co.uk Bobh

There are two copies on The Master Genealogist 5.x User's Guide available now on Amazon for $11 with shipping. As others have noted, there have not been a lot of changes since it was published in 2003. I even have an extra copy that I would be willing to sell. I also have a copy of the PDF that was published in 2008. And, I have copies of the 4 TMG DVDs that I ripped for my own use. I wonder if Bob or someone from Wholly Genes would allow these to be shared? Walter -----Original Message----- From: Morsø Anecentral <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 4:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TMG] A manual for TMG 9? Where can I find a manual for TMG 9? I guess it is not printed (yet)? — Kurt Hansen The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

At 3/10/2018 04:54, Morsø Anecentral wrote >My entire project for my family is becoming >unimaginable. I therefore consider the pros and >cons of splitting up a branch for each of my >grandparents. However, overlaps occur, so if you >think it's a good idea, how do you handle these coincidences? I have a single project with a single data set for some 62, 000 persons. The great majority of these persons is in a single "tree: (all related in some way). A few hundred other persons can be classed as being in about 60 others trees of from 1 (mostly) to 30 persons. These others are unrelated persons to the "main tree". Many are just witnesses (ministers, friends and best men/maid(en) of honor at marriages, etc.). A few of these larger other trees are families that I think must be related to persons in the 'main tree'. I enter them with the intention of making the connection when I find out how they are related. I prefer a single data set project because I don't have to switch to another project (or data set) to work with some other family group which is quite often. A single data set also means that I don't have duplicate people that need updating. This is the main reason for a database -- you enter something once and then forget it. One of the reasons that my data set is so large is that I include a large number of all descendants of my ancestors. This gives me all my cousins to many degrees of cousinship. The main reason that I do this is to resolve brick walls by "going in the back way" to find the right person. Another reason is that my wife's genealogy is also in my main project. At one time, I considered splitting her data and my data, but there was too much duplication across the families. Most of these are as witnesses although there are others. For example, my 2GGM is the aunt of my wife's 2C2R and the 2C2R was named for my 2GGM. With both our families having roots in the same place for over 250 years, it is not unusual to find family connections across what would be almost unrelated families. The problem is that since we are all related around here, we can't talk about someone as they are related. <g> Now, having said all this, I must say that in addition to the one project, at any one time , I have about a dozen other projects or data sets (mostly 100 persons or less each) . These are mainly created for exchange with other researchers or created from data sent by other researchers. This last is to review the sent data to ensure that these are actually "my" people and to verify the data in comparison with what I already have. Thus, I resolve any conflicts with new data and my own data before any new data is added to my main project. Most of these small projects/data sets are then deleted (though I may make a backup for my archives). In addition, I often have a few other projects -- mostly fairly small. These are for clients and rarely have any connection to anyone in my main project. Even when I have a client having a connection to someone in my main project, I like to keep the client project separate until I finish that project. Then, I will often merge than client project into my main project, make a backup of the client project and then delete the client project. In this way, I keep just the one main project and the few smaller projects that are of current interests. The rest is deleted and not ever a confusion factor. One last thought. There are a number of TMG users who have much larger projects than I -- many in the range of 200,000 persons. At least one has over 450,000 persons. I know some of this project duplicates part of my main project, but do not know the composition of the rest of his project. That part of my project comes close to being a one-name study with the hope of eventually getting back to it Irish/Scottish roots. Interestingly, we have never really compared what we each have although we have shared data at times. Just some of my thoughts - Lee

At 3/10/2018 04:41, Morsø Anecentral wrote >Where can I find a manual for TMG 9? I guess it is not printed (yet)? There is not a manual. Manuals for older versions are available. A PDF manual for version 4 was furnished but no version since then has a PDF manual. With v5, "Getting the Most out of Then Master Genealogist" (GMOTMG) was published in 2004. This was aimed at the "intermediate" user though the beginner was well considered and even had some more advanced material. It was digitized into PDF form in 2007 on a CD. The majority of GMOTMG is still current as TMG functions have not really changed although new features were added. We considered publishing a second edition, but decided there was not enough new material to warrant it. There may be copies of these available somewhere. In 2008, Terry Reigel published his "A Primer for The Master Genealogist". It was addressed more to the beginning user though it has some more advanced material as well. Terry may still have copies for sale -- see his web site at <http://tmg.reigelridge.com/>. Finally, you do realize that TMG has been discontinued and no further development is being made? This occurred in 2014 with the final update issued in Sep 2015 and all technical support ending on 31 Dec 2014. While Wholly Genes has gone out of business, its web site <http://www.whollygenes.com/> is still operating for now and many user go there for assistance from other users. This mailing list and some others are good places to ask questions. There are other resources -- Terry's web site above, and mine at <www.tmgtips.com>. Lee

On 3/10/2018 11:25 AM, Janis Rodriguez wrote: > Terry’s Tips is a great starting point. > > http://tmg.reigelridge.com/ <http://tmg.reigelridge.com/> > > So is his book, but I do not know if it is still available for purchase. Thanks, Jan, Yes, the book is still available for purchase, and a few people are still buying it.  Links are at https://reigelridge.com/press/primer.shtml However the cost of shipping to Europe, where I think Kurk is, is a bit steep. Terry

Walter, Sorry for the confusion. The code was "rugmeeting2” for a couple months because the RUG were using another computer and a different join.me subscription; the RUG’s computer had died. We got a new computer and were able to go back to the old code this month, March. It should be “rugmeeting” for the foreseeable future. There should be a recording on the RUG website after a few days. Regards, Jan Rodriguez VP Arlington RUG rootsusers.org > On Mar 10, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Walter Wood <[email protected]> wrote: > > The JoinMe code for this meeting is rugmeeting. The code below is incorrect. > > -----Original Message----- > From: TMG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Janis Rodriguez > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:56 AM > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Subject: [TMG] Arlington "RUG" (TMG Users group) meeting Saturday, January 13, 2018 > > The Roots Users Group "RUG" of Arlington, Virginia (TMG Users group in the Washington, DC area and online) will meet on Saturday, January 13, 2018, from 9:00 am to 12:00 pm (Eastern Standard Time). > > 09:00 - 10:15 Ancestors in the US Military: Online and in Military Archives, presented by Dr. Margaret McMahon. > 10:15 - 10:30 Break > 10:30 - 12:00 TMG Excels: Identifying Reports That Scream, 'I Need a Spreadsheet!' by Susan Johnston > > ATTENTION: NEW ACCESS CODE. All are invited to attend the meeting in person or join us online via Join.Me. Our online meeting is open to everyone, not just members! For online access, download the FREE Join.Me app from the http://www.join.me/apps website, install it and join our meeting using our JOIN.ME access code: “rugmeeting2” without quotes. There is a Q&A page on the Join.Me site which can help if you are having difficulties. http://help.join.me/knowledgebase. > > NOTE: Please make certain you update Join.me well before the meeting and try to familiarize yourself with the somewhat revised interface. > > MEETING LOCATION: We still meet 'in person' in Northern Virginia near Tyson's Corner, about 2 miles inside the beltway (I-495) on Route 123. Members and guests are welcome! We meet in the newer building on the lower level. > > Trinity United Methodist Church (UMC) > 1205 Dolley Madison Boulevard > McLean, Virginia 22101 > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

Terry’s Tips is a great starting point. http://tmg.reigelridge.com/ <http://tmg.reigelridge.com/> So is his book, but I do not know if it is still available for purchase. The Arlington RUG’s website contains lots of presentations. Older ones are in PowerPoint, pdf or a word processing program. Recent programs are recorded. All of the newsletters back to the stone age are available, too. To have access to the full site you need to be a member which is pretty cheap. Jan Rodriguez VP Arlington RUG the Washington DC area TMG Users group. rootsusers.org <http://rootsusers.org/> > On Mar 10, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Constance Chappell Horne <[email protected]> wrote: > > I suggest going here: > http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?/forum/120-the-master-genealogist-v9/ > > and doing a lot of reading. > > If you have specific questions, there is a huge base of information on this > list and we will be able to assist you. > > Contance > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

I suggest adding the text directly to the memo of the tag if you want the details in TMG reports. Obviously if it is a copy of a death certificate, you will want the actual certificate also but the details can be at least written out in reports. Constance

I suggest going here: http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?/forum/120-the-master-genealogist-v9/ and doing a lot of reading. If you have specific questions, there is a huge base of information on this list and we will be able to assist you. Contance