Jack, There are MANY groups where this question would be better put. Facebook/ yahoo DNA-Newbies / Rootsweb's DNA group........ But I'll "bite" The answer to that depends entirely on what sort of DNA you are looking at testing for what you are trying to prove. I'd say that results are rather more dependent on who else has tested than the company concerned (unless you mean ethnicity results which are completely variable and IMO not really of that much use for advancing your genealogy) I'd suggest you spend some time reading the options at eg https://isogg.org/wiki/Wiki_Welcome_Page Direct male line testing (yDNA) is  only done at FamilyTreeDNA (where several of my Surname DNA projects have had great successes in matching up lines and contributing to science by creating new branches on the tree of mankind) Autosomal testing (all your ancestral lines) can be done at 4 main companies. A comparison of who does what is on the above Wiki. My favourite is FTDNA as the only all-rounder, no fuss, no subscriptions, contact data for everyone. MyHeritage is my second choice as a rapidly growing presence in the autosomal DNA testing market, improving their tools also quite rapidly - and accepts free transfers in from the other companies (with the possibly exception of the newer 23andme tests?) Ancestry cannot be ignored as they have the volume - but no tools to speak of Both of the last two work best with at least a minimum subscription but do work without. 23andme is too expensive in my part of the world. Good tools but too hard with their complicated sharing system - and they have a cap on match lists. Last year I cracked a 27 yr old brickwall using autosomal DNA, together with a lot of research, able to be targetted thanks to the matches received Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 20/03/18 14:41, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: > It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing > service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on > how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be > interesting. Thanks! Jack > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

Ancestry's DNA can only show you probable cousins. People who take the test without uploading a tree are not likely to be contacted by these probable cousins, as they have no idea of how you may be related. And you are correct, Ancestry only tests autosomal DNA and doesn't let you look at the actual results. So if you want to get into serious DNA research, you need to use the other services, maybe several of them. Also get family members to test as well. I use Ancestry to make contact with cousins on various lines in hopes that some of them will have photos or other information which may enhance my own research. I ignore those matches which have no tree or only a very few people. Obviously a waste of my time, because those people are unlikely to have anything to share. I'm more than willing to share my research, but with others who are serious about family history. Ancestry lets you contact these matches via their message service, which hides the email from you. Once you have connected via message, you can exchange direct email. On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Peggy Haskell via TMG <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Jack, > I am not sure what "wonderful things" I was expecting, but the Ancestry > DNA results for myself fell considerably short of that. > The first thing I received for possible cousins, was all my husband's > family names. One further communication and then nothing more. > Secondly, the website for subscribing to Ancestry is not exactly "user > friendly" and did not confirm or deny my subscription. Because of that, I > tried again and got the same results. But my credit card bill showed > that I had paid it twice. Finally had to have a long talk with a > customer service rep to straighten out the bill and cancel all > subscriptions. > Third: With the 30 day free trial, I searched for Wisconsin, Nebraska and > New York records, only to find that they are far from complete, at least > for these states. > Fourth: Ancestry DNA testing is the lowest level of sophistication...... > it is very, very general ...... and according to news reports has lead law > enforcement to accuse the wrong person of a serious crime. > I guess you could say that I was not happy with my results. Just hope > others have had better experiences. > [email protected] > Nebraska > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Lykins via TMG <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 8:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Jack Lykins <[email protected]> > Subject: [TMG] DNA Testing Services > > It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing > service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on > how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be > interesting. Thanks! Jack > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >

At 3/19/2018 21:41, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote >It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing >service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on >how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be >interesting. I have tested with FamilyTreeDNA, 23&Me, and Ancestry. I have been satisfied with all three. This is with multiple tests from a number of people for each company with some testers doing all three. For those that tested with all three, the result were comparable for the same tests. At the current time (in the U.S.), Ancestry has the largest database against which tests are compared. This means there is a greater chance of finding matches. Ancestry also has its database of family trees which may help in the finding the Most Recent Common Ancestor of a match if both testers have tied their tests to person in uploaded trees. This can help find a "missing" ancestor and can even help disprove a tree. Uploaded trees are not required as a user can contact a potential match through Ancestry (anonymously) to see if there is a chance for the match to be confirmed and how it might be. Also, once the test results are in, there is potential to compare the test in other ways. The raw data can be downloaded for use on your own computer (though few have the expertise for that). The raw data can also be uploaded for third-party comparisons and processing. For example, the Ancestry tests the autosomalDNA (best for finding relationships other than for just direct paternal or maternal lines, i.e., cousins). It does not tell exactly where the genetic match is (what chromosome and much more than general confidence level. But, the user can upload the raw data to GEDMatch (Google it) for processing there showing exact match locations and how much of a match it is in any chromosome. I also understand that raw data from one company may be uploaded to one or more other companies. But, I have not tried it. If you can get a copy of Bettinger and Wayne's "Genetic Genealogy in Practice" (published by the National Genealogical Society), it will explain a lot more about DNA and what can be done with it. It probably has more than you want to know, but they have written a very technical subject is a fairly easily understood book. So, is there a best? No. They are all about equal. Currently, I'd go with Ancestry to start considering its large database. But, the others are starting to catch up in that area. Lee

Hello Jack, I am not sure what "wonderful things" I was expecting, but the Ancestry DNA results for myself fell considerably short of that. The first thing I received for possible cousins, was all my husband's family names. One further communication and then nothing more. Secondly, the website for subscribing to Ancestry is not exactly "user friendly" and did not confirm or deny my subscription. Because of that, I tried again and got the same results. But my credit card bill showed that I had paid it twice. Finally had to have a long talk with a customer service rep to straighten out the bill and cancel all subscriptions. Third: With the 30 day free trial, I searched for Wisconsin, Nebraska and New York records, only to find that they are far from complete, at least for these states. Fourth: Ancestry DNA testing is the lowest level of sophistication...... it is very, very general ...... and according to news reports has lead law enforcement to accuse the wrong person of a serious crime. I guess you could say that I was not happy with my results. Just hope others have had better experiences. [email protected] Nebraska -----Original Message----- From: Jack Lykins via TMG <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 8:41 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Jack Lykins <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] DNA Testing Services It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be interesting. Thanks! Jack The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be interesting. Thanks! Jack

On 3/19/2018 9:20 AM, Donald E. Lake wrote: > I have tried to run Create Book numerous times in the Book Manager. Failed as many times. I have set the book with 17 chapters. Each one is an individual (mostly siblings) with descendants. > > I have gone thru the Report Definition Screen for each one setting the options for each and saving the settings for Journal Report. Most settings are the same except for the number of generations. > > I select Create Book and the run starts. It will run the first individual/chapter and keep on running thru all chapters, each individual, to the end and the person count is for all chapters. It will then start running the second chapter and keeps running all the way through. There is no break at the end of each and start with the next chapter/individual. Repeats. Donald, Why are you using Book Manager? You have to create the individual reports anyway. Why not just run them individually? Book Manager just runs the set all at once. The only value of Book Manager is when you have to run a set of reports repeatedly, when it automates the running of the whole set. Terry Reigel

At 3/19/2018 09:20, Donald E. Lake wrote >I have tried to run Create Book numerous times in the Book >Manager. Failed as many times. I have set the book with 17 >chapters. Each one is an individual (mostly siblings) with descendants. > >I have gone thru the Report Definition Screen for each one setting >the options for each and saving the settings for Journal >Report. Most settings are the same except for the number of generations. > >I select Create Book and the run starts. It will run the first >individual/chapter and keep on running thru all chapters, each >individual, to the end and the person count is for all chapters. It >will then start running the second chapter and keeps running all the >way through. There is no break at the end of each and start with >the next chapter/individual. Repeats. > >I have selected different options in the Master Document >Field. Results are the same. > >This occurred on an old computer. I uninstalled/reinstalled from >original disc and ran v9.05. No change. Had to replace the >computer and had a total and complete new installation from the disc >and ran v9.05. Same story. > >I have finished my work on three projects and want to finalize them >soon (age is upon me). Any help would be appreciated. I am not sure where your problem is. Book Manager is designed to run each report as a separate report just as if your ran each separately one at a time. The difference is that Book Manager automates the starting of each subsequent report after each prior report is finished.. You may select to have all reports to run without any interruption 'for confirmation of each report', or whether to 'overwrite the output files' from prior runs. one thing to keep in mind is that for each report that is run, a unique filename must be given to it. That is, for a ten chapter book, the end result should be ten files. These may then be combined into a single "book" file using your word processor if desired. If you do not use unique filename, you will likely wind up with only the last report. You can go to <http://www.tmgtips.com/tmgtutor.htm> where there are two discussions on using Book Manager. One is based on crating the the Related-By Flag. The other comprises the slides from a talk I gave on a TMG Cruise on creating a family book. Both were written for earlier versions of TMG, but (except for the v4 discussion) will work for v9.05. The second might display a notice that your browser may not display it properly, but should work OK for you. If you are still having problems, tell us what the results are for the first few "chapter" reports. Lee

Like Lee, I've done quite a bit of DNA testing of various relatives, and while there is much I don't know, I feel pretty secure about the basics. The current wisdom is that segments below about 15 cM may be false positives but that above 15 cM they should be good. In Lee's case, the two cousins who don't share the segment may simply not have inherited it, or of course there may have been something iffy about the segment as Lee suggests (a misread by the company, perhaps). Triangulation is key. For Robin (and anyone), I would stress mapping out the chromosomes so that you can verify which two grandparents contributed in that area, and which of the two contributed the shared segment. This isn't always easy with relatives who aren't your primary focus, or for that matter if you're dealing with an endogamous ancestry, but still it is very helpful to be able to tell a match "I can tell that this is a segment from my German grandfather" or whatever. As for how long a segment worth bothering with needs to be, that depends on the family. It's my impression that people with significant colonial American ancestry tend to work with larger segments. In my family, where the earliest immigrant arrived in the US around 1850, a segment of 50 cM from someone other than a known relative is pretty much unheard of. I get excited about matches with 20 cM segments because that is big in my world. So it all depends on one's ancestry and how many people are testing. My family does get a lot of Norwegian matches because a lot of Norwegians test and four of my great-grandparents came from Norway, but the Norwegians seem relatively endogamous and about all I can usually do with Norwegian matches is divide between my mother's (her grandparents came from the same community) and my father's, with some luck dividing up his as his grandmother had Forest Finn ancestry and the Finnish and Swedish matches probably come from her rather than her husband. Hope this is helpful to people -- I know it's gone off-topic from TMG. Karla Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:54 PM, Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > At 3/18/2018 16:19, Robin Kaspar wrote > >> My mother and I have a DNA match on our Hunt side who has a shared match >> on our Sanderson side. TMG is telling me there is no relationship between >> the two women. I’m checking with the Sanderson cousin to find out if >> she’s aware of any Hunt marriages into their other sides of the family >> that might be responsible for the match. >> >> Granted, the amount of shared CMs is only 11.7 between the two of them, >> so it could be a false positive, but I’ve gone back several generations >> on both sides of the family in the relationship calculator and it tells me >> no relationship. >> > > I have learned a great deal about DNA through various testing of myself > and many cousins and in-laws. Mostly what I have learned is to known that > I have just touched the "tip of the iceberg" and there is more that I don't > know than I know. > > With that caveat, I agree with Karla's assessment. My wife shares a 25 cM > segment with someone who also shares about the same segment but only 22cM > on one chromosome with one of her first cousins. Interesting, two other > of her first cousins (all same grandparents) do not share that segment. > > The estimated relationship to the match was 4th cousin with low > confidence. We corresponded for about a month trying to find a common > ancestor without any luck. In the past few days, I have noted that the > match is no longer shown by the testing company. The raw data still show > it, of course. So, we figure that it definitely was a false positive. > > Personally, I don't much bother with matches that are less than about > 50cMs as to many have been false positives. On the other hand, I found a > fifth cousin through a 33cM match. So, go figure. <g> > > Lee > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >

I have tried to run Create Book numerous times in the Book Manager. Failed as many times. I have set the book with 17 chapters. Each one is an individual (mostly siblings) with descendants. I have gone thru the Report Definition Screen for each one setting the options for each and saving the settings for Journal Report. Most settings are the same except for the number of generations. I select Create Book and the run starts. It will run the first individual/chapter and keep on running thru all chapters, each individual, to the end and the person count is for all chapters. It will then start running the second chapter and keeps running all the way through. There is no break at the end of each and start with the next chapter/individual. Repeats. I have selected different options in the Master Document Field. Results are the same. This occurred on an old computer. I uninstalled/reinstalled from original disc and ran v9.05. No change. Had to replace the computer and had a total and complete new installation from the disc and ran v9.05. Same story. I have finished my work on three projects and want to finalize them soon (age is upon me). Any help would be appreciated. Thank. Don

At 3/18/2018 16:19, Robin Kaspar wrote >My mother and I have a DNA match on our Hunt >side who has a shared match on our Sanderson >side. TMG is telling me there is no relationship >between the two women. I’m checking with the >Sanderson cousin to find out if she’s aware of >any Hunt marriages into their other sides of the >family that might be responsible for the match. > >Granted, the amount of shared CMs is only 11.7 >between the two of them, so it could be a false >positive, but I’ve gone back several >generations on both sides of the family in the >relationship calculator and it tells me no relationship. I have learned a great deal about DNA through various testing of myself and many cousins and in-laws. Mostly what I have learned is to known that I have just touched the "tip of the iceberg" and there is more that I don't know than I know. With that caveat, I agree with Karla's assessment. My wife shares a 25 cM segment with someone who also shares about the same segment but only 22cM on one chromosome with one of her first cousins. Interesting, two other of her first cousins (all same grandparents) do not share that segment. The estimated relationship to the match was 4th cousin with low confidence. We corresponded for about a month trying to find a common ancestor without any luck. In the past few days, I have noted that the match is no longer shown by the testing company. The raw data still show it, of course. So, we figure that it definitely was a false positive. Personally, I don't much bother with matches that are less than about 50cMs as to many have been false positives. On the other hand, I found a fifth cousin through a 33cM match. So, go figure. <g> Lee

Robin, Lee has answered the TMG part of your question, but while it's true the one segment could be a false positive, the way that you're phrasing the situation (asking if the Sandersons have any other Hunt connections) makes me suspect that you're taking too narrow an approach to the DNA. The person who matches your Hunt side and also a relative on your Sanderson side is probably not matching the Sanderson relative through a Hunt connection, but through some irrelevant-to-you shared ancestor. Here's a comparable scenario: I match my father's cousin Jim on our German side. Jim and my mother happen to share some matches, but that doesn't mean my mother is related to my father, or even to Jim. Since Jim is half Irish and my mother is 1/4 Scottish, chances are the shared matches have some Irish and Scottish ancestry. Of course, we can't rule out the possibility that your Hunt match is related to the Sandersons through the Hunts (or that Jim and my mother are distantly related but don't share DNA), but as I say, it's more likely that her match to the Sanderson relative is through some other line and is far enough back that you don't have it in your database. And you may already know this and simply have phrased your query a bit loosely. Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Robin Kaspar <[email protected]> wrote: > My mother and I have a DNA match on our Hunt side who has a shared match > on our Sanderson side. TMG is telling me there is no relationship between > the two women. I’m checking with the Sanderson cousin to find out if she’s > aware of any Hunt marriages into their other sides of the family that might > be responsible for the match. > > Granted, the amount of shared CMs is only 11.7 between the two of them, so > it could be a false positive, but I’ve gone back several generations on > both sides of the family in the relationship calculator and it tells me no > relationship. > > Does TMG calculate half-relationships? > > > > I have another ulterior motive for posting this question. I saw on another > Rootsweb mailing list that someone was able to either embed a photo into > the message or send an attachment. I’m attempting attachments here to see > if it works. If you don’t see them, it doesn’t. > > > > > Robin in Short Pump > > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

At 3/18/2018 16:19, Robin Kaspar wrote >Does TMG calculate half-relationships? Yes. Or rather, it calculates relationships. My wife's grandmother had two wives and had a daughter by each. TMG calculates the daughters as sisters,which they are -- through their father. Both daughters had daughters and TMG calculates the granddaughters as first cousins,which they are -- through their grandfather. Actually half-anything is not calculated as the relationship is still sibling, cousin, aunt, uncle, father, mother, etc. Similarly, double-cousins are still just cousins. Yes, half-whatever and double-whatever makes a difference in regard to DNA (double first cousins tend to be closer genetically to siblings than just first cousins), but they're still whatever. >I have another ulterior motive for posting this >question. I saw on another Rootsweb mailing list >that someone was able to either embed a photo >into the message or send an attachment. I’m >attempting attachments here to see if it works. >If you don’t see them, it doesn’t. Unless the recent software change made a difference, RootsWeb mailing lists do not permit attachments and I think that also applies to embedded files. This was the policy set to help ensure against injurious files being transmitted. Lee

On 3/18/18 8:02 PM, Robin Kaspar wrote: > The attachments apparently didn’t work. I never got a bounce notice, but this message never appeared that I can see. > > So let’s try embedding. > > > > > > >> On Mar 18, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Robin Kaspar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My mother and I have a DNA match on our Hunt side who has a shared match on our Sanderson side. TMG is telling me there is no relationship between the two women. I’m checking with the Sanderson cousin to find out if she’s aware of any Hunt marriages into their other sides of the family that might be responsible for the match. >> >> Granted, the amount of shared CMs is only 11.7 between the two of them, so it could be a false positive, but I’ve gone back several generations on both sides of the family in the relationship calculator and it tells me no relationship. >> >> Does TMG calculate half-relationships? >> >> <jennifer and allison gedmatch one to one screenshot.jpeg><jennifer and allison no relationship screenshot.jpeg> >> >> I have another ulterior motive for posting this question. I saw on another Rootsweb mailing list that someone was able to either embed a photo into the message or send an attachment. I’m attempting attachments here to see if it works. If you don’t see them, it doesn’t. >> >> >> >> >> Robin in Short Pump >> >> >> >> > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html Both messages appeared, but you likely won't see them unless you check the archives. One issue with gmail is duplicate message suppression (which you can't disable) considers the message you get back from the list list to be a duplicate of your sent message. (unless you get messages as digest). -- Richard Damon

The attachments apparently didn’t work. I never got a bounce notice, but this message never appeared that I can see. So let’s try embedding. > On Mar 18, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Robin Kaspar <[email protected]> wrote: > > My mother and I have a DNA match on our Hunt side who has a shared match on our Sanderson side. TMG is telling me there is no relationship between the two women. I’m checking with the Sanderson cousin to find out if she’s aware of any Hunt marriages into their other sides of the family that might be responsible for the match. > > Granted, the amount of shared CMs is only 11.7 between the two of them, so it could be a false positive, but I’ve gone back several generations on both sides of the family in the relationship calculator and it tells me no relationship. > > Does TMG calculate half-relationships? > > <jennifer and allison gedmatch one to one screenshot.jpeg><jennifer and allison no relationship screenshot.jpeg> > > I have another ulterior motive for posting this question. I saw on another Rootsweb mailing list that someone was able to either embed a photo into the message or send an attachment. I’m attempting attachments here to see if it works. If you don’t see them, it doesn’t. > > > > > Robin in Short Pump > > > >

My mother and I have a DNA match on our Hunt side who has a shared match on our Sanderson side. TMG is telling me there is no relationship between the two women. I’m checking with the Sanderson cousin to find out if she’s aware of any Hunt marriages into their other sides of the family that might be responsible for the match. Granted, the amount of shared CMs is only 11.7 between the two of them, so it could be a false positive, but I’ve gone back several generations on both sides of the family in the relationship calculator and it tells me no relationship. Does TMG calculate half-relationships? I have another ulterior motive for posting this question. I saw on another Rootsweb mailing list that someone was able to either embed a photo into the message or send an attachment. I’m attempting attachments here to see if it works. If you don’t see them, it doesn’t. Robin in Short Pump

Recently I tried to create a Relationship Chart but was unable to because I kept getting the following errors: Copied from TMG 9.5 Logs folder: 27-06-17, 08:38:44 1705File access is denied c:\users\ronch\documents\the master genealogist v9\logs\registercontrol.log. 13 TMGAPPOBJ.MOCX 17-03-2018, 14:59:15 1923Object GOREP is not found. 21 FRMCHART5.UNLOAD 17-03-2018, 15:17:37 1923Object GOREP is not found. 21 FRMCHART5.UNLOAD 17-03-2018, 15:20:43 1923Object GOREP is not found. 2 FRMRDS_TWOPEOPLE.UNLOAD 17-03-2018, 15:21:44 1923Object GOREP is not found. 21 FRMCHART5.UNLOAD I am using TMG9.5 on Windows 10 OS. I ran the repair mode from a copy on my installer disc, but this did not repair the problem. I deleted my TMG9.5 from my computer (after making backups). I re-installed TMG9.5 from a backup installer disc, but this again did not fix my problem. Can anyone shed any light on this please? Thanks you, Ron Chénier http://chesnay.homestead.com/ http://www.bertrandchesnayfrancais.homestead.com

Lee, the TMGU solution is exactly what I was hoping to find. It provides a method to combine those Tags which were essentially duplicates, except for a slight difference of names. When you gave an example of Resided and Residence, it explained it in a way I understood. Thanks for your help. Jim <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > At 3/15/2018 16:16, Jim Slade wrote > >> In the Master Tag Type List, I have several instances of duplicate, or >> very >> similar named tags with exact same sentence. Most of these likely >> occurred >> from merging datasets. Is there any way to merge or combine the duplicate >> type Tags with same sentence? using using TMGv9.05 ~ Win10/64. >> If I cannot merge, what is best way to clean up the Master Tag List ? >> > > No, there is no merge function for Tag Types. But, you can use John > Cardinal's TMG Utility to change Tag Type "A" to Tag Type "B". So if you > have two Tag Types named Resided and Residence that are both essentially > the same, select the one to "keep" and use the Utility program's > Events=>Change Event Type function to change the Resided Tag Type to the > Residence Tag Type (or whatever). You can also change Roles with the same > function. if needed. > > Be sure to make a backup first. Also use the Log Only feature the first > time that you run the function. This way, you can review the log report to > see if it is what you want. Then de-select the Log Only option and run the > function again "for real". > > Lee > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >

Lee, Thank you for the suggestion to use the Maintenance tools. I've had so many years without having to use that feature, I had forgotten about it. It solved my issue. George -----Original Message----- From: Lee Hoffman <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 11:19 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: curselection.dbf At 3/16/2018 01:00, George Dyer wrote >When I attempt to create a GEDCOM file from a focus group I eventually >get the following error: > >"File 'curselection.dbf' does not exist 21EXPORT" > >The export stalls on "Step 4: Finish," is about 4% complete and on the >"Person dictionary". > >I've tried reinstalling but get the same error. Re-installing would not resolve this situation as this is likely a problem with the project files and not the program itself. Have you run the Maintenance functions? Go to the File menu options and select Maintenance=>Validate File Integrity. Answr [Yes] to the "Validate the data now?" question. You can probably ignore the option to Search for missing exhibits, so click on the [OK] button. If you elect to search for missing exhibits, click on the [Specify the folders to Search...] button and add the file path(s) for any folders containing your Exhibits, click on the [Save] button and then click on the [OK] button. The function will begin and the progress bar will update as well as information stating what is being checked. Any minor problems will be fixed in this process (usually of an administrative nature) and the results will be displayed. If this doesn't resolve the problem, get back to us giving more detail as to what you did (steps you took in trying to create the GEDCOM). Also, include what versions of TMG and Windows are being used. Lee The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

TMGU can convert all tags of one of the types into the other, then you can delete the unused tags as below. > On Mar 16, 2018, at 1:00 PM, Michael J Hannah <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > First, not sure what you mean by "duplicate" tag types? Do you mean duplicate names? If a Project has multiple Datasets, each Dataset can have its own collection of tag types. You can see this at the top of the Master Tag Type List where you select the Dataset in order to show its separate list of types. But when a Dataset is merged into an existing Dataset, if the receiving Dataset has a tag type of the same name, the global customization to that tag type in the sending Dataset is lost. So you would wind up with only one tag type of that name in the receiving Dataset with the receiving Dataset's sentence. So I would be surprised if you had duplicate tag type "names" in a single Dataset. > > Next, if you have tag types which have the same global sentence but different names, you might first try to delete one of these tag types from the Master Tag Type List whose "name" you don't wish to keep. If any person has that tag type TMG will warn you so you would not want to delete it. But with no one assigned that tag type there is no harm in deleting that undesired and unused type. (Note that you cannot delete Standard pre-defined tag types no matter what.) > > Once you have deleted unused tag types be sure to do the TMG maintenance routines. Now you can pick one of the types with the same sentence but different names as what you want all of these similar types to be named. Then you can change all instances of event tag type "a" to event tag type "b" using the TMG Utility. For details of how to do that, see the function "Change Event Type" in the TMG Utility's Help. > > Hope this helps in your clean up, > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

At 3/16/2018 01:00, George Dyer wrote >When I attempt to create a GEDCOM file from a focus group I eventually get >the following error: > >"File 'curselection.dbf' does not exist 21EXPORT" > >The export stalls on "Step 4: Finish," is about 4% complete and on the >"Person dictionary". > >I've tried reinstalling but get the same error. Re-installing would not resolve this situation as this is likely a problem with the project files and not the program itself. Have you run the Maintenance functions? Go to the File menu options and select Maintenance=>Validate File Integrity. Answr [Yes] to the "Validate the data now?" question. You can probably ignore the option to Search for missing exhibits, so click on the [OK] button. If you elect to search for missing exhibits, click on the [Specify the folders to Search...] button and add the file path(s) for any folders containing your Exhibits, click on the [Save] button and then click on the [OK] button. The function will begin and the progress bar will update as well as information stating what is being checked. Any minor problems will be fixed in this process (usually of an administrative nature) and the results will be displayed. If this doesn't resolve the problem, get back to us giving more detail as to what you did (steps you took in trying to create the GEDCOM). Also, include what versions of TMG and Windows are being used. Lee