That’s what I’m using to get the 5th cousin designation. > On Mar 20, 2018, at 2:08 PM, John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: > > Robin, > > Have you tried refreshing the Relationship Calculator (Ctrl-R) > under the Tools menu? > > John Cordes > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 02:00:55PM -0400, Robin Kaspar wrote: >> This is odd. >> >> I have that Relation-thing turned on in my event lists, don’t remember what it’s called. >> >> I just input a man who is showing as my 4th cousin once removed. >> >> I then input his daughter (dau-bio) and she is showing as no relation to me. >> >> Yet when I do the Relationship calculator, it tells me she is my 5th cousin. >> >> Is this a bug? It’s not fatal if it is, I just haven’t seen it before. >> >> Robin in Short Pump > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

I think sometimes when you input the parent who is not related to you and then the child, the relationship-thingy doesn't always update automatically. Refreshing it as John suggested, should fix it On 3/20/2018 2:08 PM, John Cordes wrote: > Robin, > > Have you tried refreshing the Relationship Calculator (Ctrl-R) > under the Tools menu? > > John Cordes > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 02:00:55PM -0400, Robin Kaspar wrote: >> This is odd. >> >> I have that Relation-thing turned on in my event lists, don’t remember what it’s called. >> >> I just input a man who is showing as my 4th cousin once removed. >> >> I then input his daughter (dau-bio) and she is showing as no relation to me. >> >> Yet when I do the Relationship calculator, it tells me she is my 5th cousin. >> >> Is this a bug? It’s not fatal if it is, I just haven’t seen it before. >> >> Robin in Short Pump > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

Sorry, that was the wrong Relation Calculator. What you need to do is toggle the "Automatic 'Relation' tag" in the Prefs for the Project. John Cordes On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 03:08:07PM -0300, John Cordes wrote: > Robin, > > Have you tried refreshing the Relationship Calculator (Ctrl-R) > under the Tools menu? > > John Cordes > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 02:00:55PM -0400, Robin Kaspar wrote: > > This is odd. > > > > I have that Relation-thing turned on in my event lists, don’t remember what it’s called. > > > > I just input a man who is showing as my 4th cousin once removed. > > > > I then input his daughter (dau-bio) and she is showing as no relation to me. > > > > Yet when I do the Relationship calculator, it tells me she is my 5th cousin. > > > > Is this a bug? It’s not fatal if it is, I just haven’t seen it before. > > > > Robin in Short Pump

Robin, Have you tried refreshing the Relationship Calculator (Ctrl-R) under the Tools menu? John Cordes On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 02:00:55PM -0400, Robin Kaspar wrote: > This is odd. > > I have that Relation-thing turned on in my event lists, don’t remember what it’s called. > > I just input a man who is showing as my 4th cousin once removed. > > I then input his daughter (dau-bio) and she is showing as no relation to me. > > Yet when I do the Relationship calculator, it tells me she is my 5th cousin. > > Is this a bug? It’s not fatal if it is, I just haven’t seen it before. > > Robin in Short Pump

This is odd. I have that Relation-thing turned on in my event lists, don’t remember what it’s called. I just input a man who is showing as my 4th cousin once removed. I then input his daughter (dau-bio) and she is showing as no relation to me. Yet when I do the Relationship calculator, it tells me she is my 5th cousin. Is this a bug? It’s not fatal if it is, I just haven’t seen it before. Robin in Short Pump

Ron, Does it make a difference what you choose for Report Destination -- i.e. screen output or an actual file? John Cordes On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 09:28:58AM -0400, Ron Chenier wrote: > In addition to my previous message concerning my problem of not being able > to create Relationship Charts I will indicate in point form the sequence of > events: > 1. When trying to create a Relationship Chart Report I get a Program Error: > Declare DLL call caused an exception. > 2. I click cancel. > 3. A small screen next comes up showing that Converting stopped at 60%. > 4. I then get the following: CHESNAY_.PJC -The Master Genealogist - Unknown > member ROPROTECTIONMAN > 5. I click ok. > 6. Then I get the following error: Object GOREP is not found 21 > FRMCHAR5.UNLOAD > > I know this is a very strange problem, but it leaves me unable to create > this type of report which I often use to explain my relationship or other > relationships. > > Doing some archival searching on this problem I once came across a GOOGLE > search response where this file error was mention (in 2007) and Virginia > Blake was responding to someone on this. However it did not contain the full > Forum explanation, it seemed to have been some kind of archival record. But > I cannot seem to get to it again for some reason. > > Would anyone be able to help me with this problem? > PS: All other TMG reports work fine! > > Thank you, > Ron Chénier > http://chesnay.homestead.com/ > http://www.bertrandchesnayfrancais.homestead.com

What would we know about the descendants of Thomas Jefferson if it wasn’t for DNA? We have a well documented line back to colonial Virginia but the tests tell us there is an Indian about 6-8 generations back. Hopefully testing more cousins will find them. iSent from my iPhone; iTypos, iApologize. > On Mar 20, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Patrick M. Lofft <[email protected]> wrote: > > DNA studies can be valuable because they can confirm or refute that the > records are accurate. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Lince [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:30 AM > To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' > Subject: [TMG] Re: DNA Testing Services > > There's always the possibility that no matter how carefully a genealogist > works with sources it may be that some of the sources, even primary ones, > that have been used could be wrong. For whatever reason, some records could > tell less than the full story. If all the sources reflect reality, DNA > studies can be valuable because they confirm that the records are correct. > > Joan Lince > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Holm [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 10:03 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TMG] Re: DNA Testing Services > > Okay, as long as we are off topic. > > Is there any value to DNA testing (more ethnic sense) when a person's > ancestry is well documented (by several people) back into the early 1600s > and all ancestors (as well as their siblings and those > descendants) are found in the same country? > > Phil Holm > > >> On 3/19/2018 8:41 PM, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: >> It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing >> service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also >> comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research >> would be interesting. Thanks! Jack >> >> >> >> The TMG archive is found here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >> The TMG archive is found here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

DNA studies can be valuable because they can confirm or refute that the records are accurate. -----Original Message----- From: Joan Lince [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:30 AM To: 'The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List' Subject: [TMG] Re: DNA Testing Services There's always the possibility that no matter how carefully a genealogist works with sources it may be that some of the sources, even primary ones, that have been used could be wrong. For whatever reason, some records could tell less than the full story. If all the sources reflect reality, DNA studies can be valuable because they confirm that the records are correct. Joan Lince -----Original Message----- From: Phil Holm [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 10:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TMG] Re: DNA Testing Services Okay, as long as we are off topic. Is there any value to DNA testing (more ethnic sense) when a person's ancestry is well documented (by several people) back into the early 1600s and all ancestors (as well as their siblings and those descendants) are found in the same country? Phil Holm On 3/19/2018 8:41 PM, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: > It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing > service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also > comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research > would be interesting. Thanks! Jack > > > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

There's always the possibility that no matter how carefully a genealogist works with sources it may be that some of the sources, even primary ones, that have been used could be wrong. For whatever reason, some records could tell less than the full story. If all the sources reflect reality, DNA studies can be valuable because they confirm that the records are correct. Joan Lince -----Original Message----- From: Phil Holm [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 10:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TMG] Re: DNA Testing Services Okay, as long as we are off topic. Is there any value to DNA testing (more ethnic sense) when a person's ancestry is well documented (by several people) back into the early 1600s and all ancestors (as well as their siblings and those descendants) are found in the same country? Phil Holm On 3/19/2018 8:41 PM, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: > It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing > service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also > comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research > would be interesting. Thanks! Jack > > > > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

I have had successes with MtDNA, Y-DNA and FF testing at FamilyTreeDNA, Testing has enabled me to break a brick wall and document a mitochondrial line as well as receive other leads. DNA testing goes hand-in-hand with traditional well-documented genealogy research. A couple of thoughts about the value of DNA testing -- 1) Your traditional research may show a well-documented line, but the DNA test shows that a non-paternal event occurred so that the line you were researching was not in fact *your* correct ancestral line. It happens in the best of families! 2) DNA also can lead you to discover that a surname that you are researching (maybe your own!) may be the result of a non-paternal event hundreds of years ago, such as a child being adopted by a couple without sons to continue their legacy. These are just two examples. You should be open to whatever you find. Wendy McGuire <Original Message> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:02:43 -0500 From: Phil Holm <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: DNA Testing Services To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Okay, as long as we are off topic. Is there any value to DNA testing (more ethnic sense) when a person's ancestry is well documented (by several people) back into the early 1600s and all ancestors (as well as their siblings and those descendants) are found in the same country? Phil Holm

Phil, In terms of ethnicity, remember there are three types of genealogical DNA test. While Ancestry pushes its ethnicity estimates (and all the companies give ethnicity estimates for their autosomal tests), what could be interesting for an ancestry documented to the early 1600s in the same country would be YDNA and MtDNA testing. Those could indicate whether the patrilineal and matrilineal ancestors came from somewhere else 1000 or more years ago. Yes, you might have a result that was very common for the known country, or you might have one indicating deep ancestry in Central Asia or whatnot. Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Phil Holm <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay, as long as we are off topic. > > Is there any value to DNA testing (more ethnic sense) when a person's > ancestry is well documented (by several people) back into the early 1600s > and all ancestors (as well as their siblings and those descendants) are > found in the same country? > > Phil Holm > >

Okay, as long as we are off topic. Is there any value to DNA testing (more ethnic sense) when a person's ancestry is well documented (by several people) back into the early 1600s and all ancestors (as well as their siblings and those descendants) are found in the same country? Phil Holm On 3/19/2018 8:41 PM, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: > It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing > service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on > how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be > interesting. Thanks! Jack > > > > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

I have tested family members at Ancestry, FTDNA, and 23andMe, but mainly test with FTDNA and then upload the results to the free comparison site Gedmatch.com. As has been mentioned, Ancestry has the largest pool--but few tools and a huge number of those tested did it just for the ethnicity estimate and will never put up a tree or answer messages. It also has few testers from outside North America. FTDNA, 23andMe, and now MyHeritage, have many tests from around the world, although as Lorna points out, 23andMe's current pricing is a problem, as is their cap on number of matches. As to utility, my family would never have been able to identify my mother's grandfathers without DNA testing. It still took work and collaboration, but it became possible to nail down which Norwegian candidate was the correct Kittel Olson Moen, and we were able to determine that "Allen Morey" was actually Albert F. Mory and the son of German immigrants (we have since traced his father's family back to the Thirty Years War and hope to do the same with his mother's this summer). Also, one of my brother's DNA matches learned via testing that her father was half Norwegian and not the son of the man she called grandfather. While the match to my brother was small, hard work including much correspondence with matches finally identified the Norwegian and showed the tester and her sister to be sixth cousins (and eighth, and tenth) to my brother and me. DNA testing can do wonders for proving and extending your tree, but you have to learn how to work with it and put in some effort (unless you're just really lucky and answers fall into your lap, which also happens). Genealogy conferences now have many talks on DNA, as do many of the genealogy societies. My local society has a DNA Interest Group that I help with, for instance. Everyone is welcome and it has been very well received. Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:41 PM, Jack Lykins via TMG <[email protected]> wrote: > It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing > service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on > how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be > interesting. Thanks! Jack >

I was a beta subject for FTDNA for the MTDNA and autosomal DNA. Their test is much more scientifically valid than that of Ancestry. I had one major discovery which would not have been possible using documentary evidence OR Ancestry DNA and confirmed a relationship which was impossible to confirm using traditional methods. I also deplore Ancestry's policy of owning data (your tree) to do with as they please. I stopped participation at FTDNA several years ago when they adopted a policy too similar to that of Ancestry as far as a more social media nature. The management tried to get me to continue, but I refused. I removed my and my sisters' trees, as did several other serious genealogists. I receive autosomal and MTDNA results. I occasionally visit my site to look at matches. Most do not post trees either. I gave up emailing close matches years ago if they hadn't mounted trees. I also had some extremely unpleasant emails from inexperienced genealogists who took issue with my request for documentation. A tree is worthless if undocumented  I always found Gedmatch a complete waste of time because anyone I contacted had no concept of genealogy. Others had luck. I wish you success but be prepared for annoyances. Go with FTDNA for the best results and get complete testing, not just autosomal.  I know this is off topic, but given that most TMGers are serious, felt it warranted a reasoned response which is not likrly to occur on most boards.Toby Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Jack Lykins via TMG <[email protected]> Date: 3/19/18 8:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Cc: Jack Lykins <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] DNA Testing Services It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing service used and how satisfied you were with the results?  Also comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be interesting.  Thanks!  Jack The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

In addition to my previous message concerning my problem of not being able to create Relationship Charts I will indicate in point form the sequence of events: 1. When trying to create a Relationship Chart Report I get a Program Error: Declare DLL call caused an exception. 2. I click cancel. 3. A small screen next comes up showing that Converting stopped at 60%. 4. I then get the following: CHESNAY_.PJC -The Master Genealogist - Unknown member ROPROTECTIONMAN 5. I click ok. 6. Then I get the following error: Object GOREP is not found 21 FRMCHAR5.UNLOAD I know this is a very strange problem, but it leaves me unable to create this type of report which I often use to explain my relationship or other relationships. Doing some archival searching on this problem I once came across a GOOGLE search response where this file error was mention (in 2007) and Virginia Blake was responding to someone on this. However it did not contain the full Forum explanation, it seemed to have been some kind of archival record. But I cannot seem to get to it again for some reason. Would anyone be able to help me with this problem? PS: All other TMG reports work fine! Thank you, Ron Chénier http://chesnay.homestead.com/ http://www.bertrandchesnayfrancais.homestead.com

Uploading your data to GEDMatch allows you to compare your DNA to others from all the companies who have done likewise. FTDNA also allows you to upload results from other companies and compare to those in their database. Mike More [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:17 AM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] DNA Testing Services I had success with Ancestry DNA and Gedmatch. Uploading to Gedmatch allowed a new cousin and I to confirm that her great great grandmother and my great great grandmother were (probably) sisters. That family has been hard to complete because of common surname and not finding them in 1850 census. I was also able to use Ancestry DNA to identify my daughter’s paternal grandfather. It was a family mystery, as her grandmother would never reveal it. Sent from Cindy's iPad On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:58 PM, James Holcombe <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: One thing no one has mentioned, FTDNA keeps your test sample so if you decide to add another test, say a y-DNA or mt-DNA test they can start the test right away and you don’t pay shipping. If you really have a brick wall you may have to export your results to one of the 3rd party analyst tool sites like ysearch or gedmatch or mitosearch. Lastly you can transfer from one of those sites into WikiTree where with only a little work you might find that someone else has already entered their results and built a tree from it that you link to - potentially all DNA proven. iSent from my iPhone; iTypos, iApologize. On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:58 PM, LornaMoa <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Jack, There are MANY groups where this question would be better put. Facebook/ yahoo DNA-Newbies / Rootsweb's DNA group........ But I'll "bite" The answer to that depends entirely on what sort of DNA you are looking at testing for what you are trying to prove. I'd say that results are rather more dependent on who else has tested than the company concerned (unless you mean ethnicity results which are completely variable and IMO not really of that much use for advancing your genealogy) I'd suggest you spend some time reading the options at eg https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fisogg.org%2Fwiki%2FWiki_Welcome_Page&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=rd0XzcSIDrpPnKIf%2FLsq81ef8VFmYfHkT1QrB5ynphc%3D&reserved=0 Direct male line testing (yDNA) is only done at FamilyTreeDNA (where several of my Surname DNA projects have had great successes in matching up lines and contributing to science by creating new branches on the tree of mankind) Autosomal testing (all your ancestral lines) can be done at 4 main companies. A comparison of who does what is on the above Wiki. My favourite is FTDNA as the only all-rounder, no fuss, no subscriptions, contact data for everyone. MyHeritage is my second choice as a rapidly growing presence in the autosomal DNA testing market, improving their tools also quite rapidly - and accepts free transfers in from the other companies (with the possibly exception of the newer 23andme tests?) Ancestry cannot be ignored as they have the volume - but no tools to speak of Both of the last two work best with at least a minimum subscription but do work without. 23andme is too expensive in my part of the world. Good tools but too hard with their complicated sharing system - and they have a cap on match lists. Last year I cracked a 27 yr old brickwall using autosomal DNA, together with a lot of research, able to be targetted thanks to the matches received Lorna Henderson https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FLornaHen.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=9N1mFdThhcRYN4EGsNjrSxNV1g3TkNbJvnYQciQ2H%2BE%3D&reserved=0 On 20/03/18 14:41, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be interesting. Thanks! Jack The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=4xw9hmWKYPnaQ20wQ%2Fes0cZQnwE2tyUCmhj8CciJwNQ%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=4xw9hmWKYPnaQ20wQ%2Fes0cZQnwE2tyUCmhj8CciJwNQ%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=4xw9hmWKYPnaQ20wQ%2Fes0cZQnwE2tyUCmhj8CciJwNQ%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=Y6nhq9Hw%2F1RUD1HzSNZq5de%2Fxyolp0EHoW8wfmv1KP8%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=9H50TsqIwVDrzG5AsSdpi6Rmntk1YDz8IxPOFuxUOdw%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=Y6nhq9Hw%2F1RUD1HzSNZq5de%2Fxyolp0EHoW8wfmv1KP8%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=9H50TsqIwVDrzG5AsSdpi6Rmntk1YDz8IxPOFuxUOdw%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=Y6nhq9Hw%2F1RUD1HzSNZq5de%2Fxyolp0EHoW8wfmv1KP8%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

I had success with Ancestry DNA and Gedmatch. Uploading to Gedmatch allowed a new cousin and I to confirm that her great great grandmother and my great great grandmother were (probably) sisters. That family has been hard to complete because of common surname and not finding them in 1850 census. I was also able to use Ancestry DNA to identify my daughter’s paternal grandfather. It was a family mystery, as her grandmother would never reveal it. Sent from Cindy's iPad On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:58 PM, James Holcombe <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: One thing no one has mentioned, FTDNA keeps your test sample so if you decide to add another test, say a y-DNA or mt-DNA test they can start the test right away and you don’t pay shipping. If you really have a brick wall you may have to export your results to one of the 3rd party analyst tool sites like ysearch or gedmatch or mitosearch. Lastly you can transfer from one of those sites into WikiTree where with only a little work you might find that someone else has already entered their results and built a tree from it that you link to - potentially all DNA proven. iSent from my iPhone; iTypos, iApologize. On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:58 PM, LornaMoa <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Jack, There are MANY groups where this question would be better put. Facebook/ yahoo DNA-Newbies / Rootsweb's DNA group........ But I'll "bite" The answer to that depends entirely on what sort of DNA you are looking at testing for what you are trying to prove. I'd say that results are rather more dependent on who else has tested than the company concerned (unless you mean ethnicity results which are completely variable and IMO not really of that much use for advancing your genealogy) I'd suggest you spend some time reading the options at eg https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fisogg.org%2Fwiki%2FWiki_Welcome_Page&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=rd0XzcSIDrpPnKIf%2FLsq81ef8VFmYfHkT1QrB5ynphc%3D&reserved=0 Direct male line testing (yDNA) is only done at FamilyTreeDNA (where several of my Surname DNA projects have had great successes in matching up lines and contributing to science by creating new branches on the tree of mankind) Autosomal testing (all your ancestral lines) can be done at 4 main companies. A comparison of who does what is on the above Wiki. My favourite is FTDNA as the only all-rounder, no fuss, no subscriptions, contact data for everyone. MyHeritage is my second choice as a rapidly growing presence in the autosomal DNA testing market, improving their tools also quite rapidly - and accepts free transfers in from the other companies (with the possibly exception of the newer 23andme tests?) Ancestry cannot be ignored as they have the volume - but no tools to speak of Both of the last two work best with at least a minimum subscription but do work without. 23andme is too expensive in my part of the world. Good tools but too hard with their complicated sharing system - and they have a cap on match lists. Last year I cracked a 27 yr old brickwall using autosomal DNA, together with a lot of research, able to be targetted thanks to the matches received Lorna Henderson https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FLornaHen.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=9N1mFdThhcRYN4EGsNjrSxNV1g3TkNbJvnYQciQ2H%2BE%3D&reserved=0 On 20/03/18 14:41, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be interesting. Thanks! Jack The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=4xw9hmWKYPnaQ20wQ%2Fes0cZQnwE2tyUCmhj8CciJwNQ%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=4xw9hmWKYPnaQ20wQ%2Fes0cZQnwE2tyUCmhj8CciJwNQ%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=4xw9hmWKYPnaQ20wQ%2Fes0cZQnwE2tyUCmhj8CciJwNQ%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154971360&sdata=AETI3nnbGvYUTatysgedyKaA7G6lEIH396DClBGWuS4%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=Y6nhq9Hw%2F1RUD1HzSNZq5de%2Fxyolp0EHoW8wfmv1KP8%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=9H50TsqIwVDrzG5AsSdpi6Rmntk1YDz8IxPOFuxUOdw%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=Y6nhq9Hw%2F1RUD1HzSNZq5de%2Fxyolp0EHoW8wfmv1KP8%3D&reserved=0 The TMG archive is found here: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FTMG%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=9H50TsqIwVDrzG5AsSdpi6Rmntk1YDz8IxPOFuxUOdw%3D&reserved=0 Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Findex%2Fother%2FSoftware%2FTMG.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C286c9dc8cd8a429fb7e108d58e16da41%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571151154981365&sdata=Y6nhq9Hw%2F1RUD1HzSNZq5de%2Fxyolp0EHoW8wfmv1KP8%3D&reserved=0

Check ISOGG.org for information on several companies and other background information. Free to join. <https://isogg.org/> I have bee with FTDNA for 10 years. Excellent deep ancestry through Y-DNA testing. -- from well before surname taking to the present. At 09:41 PM 3/19/2018 -0400, you wrote: >It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing >service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on >how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be >interesting. Thanks! Jack

Is there a company that can test by blood? My father passed ten years ago and I have frozen blood samples from the funeral home. If so, do they test or can they test for all possible? Donna

One thing no one has mentioned, FTDNA keeps your test sample so if you decide to add another test, say a y-DNA or mt-DNA test they can start the test right away and you don’t pay shipping. If you really have a brick wall you may have to export your results to one of the 3rd party analyst tool sites like ysearch or gedmatch or mitosearch. Lastly you can transfer from one of those sites into WikiTree where with only a little work you might find that someone else has already entered their results and built a tree from it that you link to - potentially all DNA proven. iSent from my iPhone; iTypos, iApologize. > On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:58 PM, LornaMoa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jack, > There are MANY groups where this question would be better put. > Facebook/ yahoo DNA-Newbies / Rootsweb's DNA group........ > > But I'll "bite" > The answer to that depends entirely on what sort of DNA you are looking at testing for what you are trying to prove. > I'd say that results are rather more dependent on who else has tested than the company concerned (unless you mean ethnicity results which are completely variable and IMO not really of that much use for advancing your genealogy) > > I'd suggest you spend some time reading the options at eg > https://isogg.org/wiki/Wiki_Welcome_Page > > Direct male line testing (yDNA) is only done at FamilyTreeDNA (where several of my Surname DNA projects have had great successes in matching up lines and contributing to science by creating new branches on the tree of mankind) > Autosomal testing (all your ancestral lines) can be done at 4 main companies. > A comparison of who does what is on the above Wiki. > > My favourite is FTDNA as the only all-rounder, no fuss, no subscriptions, contact data for everyone. > MyHeritage is my second choice as a rapidly growing presence in the autosomal DNA testing market, improving their tools also quite rapidly - and accepts free transfers in from the other companies (with the possibly exception of the newer 23andme tests?) > Ancestry cannot be ignored as they have the volume - but no tools to speak of > Both of the last two work best with at least a minimum subscription but do work without. > 23andme is too expensive in my part of the world. > Good tools but too hard with their complicated sharing system - and they have a cap on match lists. > > Last year I cracked a 27 yr old brickwall using autosomal DNA, together with a lot of research, able to be targetted thanks to the matches received > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > >> On 20/03/18 14:41, Jack Lykins via TMG wrote: >> It's a bit off topic but would some readers comment on the DNA testing >> service used and how satisfied you were with the results? Also comment on >> how those results allowed extending your genealogy research would be >> interesting. Thanks! Jack >> >> >> The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >> The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html