When I attempt to right click on a Tag in the Person view, a Reminder popup appears. Clicking on the close symbol returns to the Person view but the program freezes and only using the Task Manager can I leave TMG. I have run the File Maintenance tools and unchecked the Reminder option in Preferences, but the same action continues. Any suggestions? Thank you.

I have tried to use John's TMG Utility to set the Start Year and End Year for some of my places. The TMGU Log reports success but nothing changes within TMG. For example, I used: If State equal to "Alberta" Change Start Year set to "1905" I am using TMGU Version 7.3 Build 06 and TMG 9.05 What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Mike More [email protected]

Yes, a List of Events report filtered for Number of Citations >> Equals >> zero. If that produces too many hits you can include additional terms in the filter such as date or place associated with the events. On 4/6/2018 2:48 PM, Mark S. Udell wrote: > Is it possible to create a report that would show all events with no source > information? > >

Is it possible to create a report that would show all events with no source information?

At 4/4/2018 18:23, Robert Thorpe wrote >By this I assume you are saying, "just store the exhibit with the person". >Don't waste your time storing it in the tag (event?). You said that you "had to load each exhibit to individual tags" and my response is that there is no "requirement" to attach Exhibits to events (Tags). I have a picture of a resort hotel owned by my 2-great- grandparents that I have attached to the Marriage Tag of my great-grandparents as that was where they were married. Images of people are almost never attached to Tags. But, then a wedding picture might be. A lot depends on the Exhibit itself. >I have original documents for most of my sources; birth/marriage/death >certificates, baptismal records, military records, etc. Most contain way >more information than is ever stored in a source record or even the tag that >the source supports. Do you find it useful to store an image of a source >document in the source record? That way you wouldn't have to chase it down >in an individual's record to see everything it contains. First, I assume that you mean that you have digital copies of those documents. <G> In my opinion (and from comments over the years here, I am in the minority), I do not think it worthwhile to attach images of those documents as Exhibits. As usual, there are exceptions. These would be when the document is very unusual or contains an oddity. For example, an ancestor of my wife was incorrectly said to be married to one woman. Fortunately, the source of that was found -- a DAR Patriot Index. And, the ancestor wife was actually show to be unknown, but the line below the ancestor had the woman said to be the wife of the ancestor. Thus, I have the ancestor married (non-Primary) to this wrong wife and the image of the index page with the wife's name highlighted showing her married to someone else. In another example, my 3GGF died willing his entire estate to his housekeeper and her children "for their service to me" and leaving nothing to his children "as I have already given them $25,000 each which is enough to keep them if they take care of it and too much if they don't". Another exception would be a document that is interesting enough that I might want to refer to it often. These usually tend to be attached to a Source. Most of my Exhibits are pictures of the individual or couple. I also have a number of images of places. Most single person images are person Exhibits. Group images tend to be attached to Tags. But most documents are not kept digitally. A few are seen as very hard to locate and I do keep a digital copy attached to the Source while I also keep the paper copy. I never keep digital copies of census records or most other public records. These are almost always now either microfilmed, digitized or both and thus can be found without a great deal of trouble. As noted, a lot of this is my opinion. Also, my opinion changes to some extent based on the image or Exhibit. Other don't always agree. Lee

I attach most of my exhibits to Events because I want them to show up with the event. The only exception is for an individual's main picture. I found attaching exhibits to Sources to be a big mistake. Of course, I use Second Site to display my work so have the exhibits either embedded or as a click on item. I prefer the click on icon so the text flows better. With respect to oldest ancestor, I have one ancestor documented as being alive in 580 AD, but cannot find birth or death documentation for him. This man would not show up under some of the suggested filters. I remember him by date, but tend to forget his name. Perhaps a flag could be used. I do have him as EOL, but would have to filter by event date to find him. Regards, Toby Sent from my iPad > On Apr 4, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Robert Thorpe <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Lee Hoffman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 5:01 PM > >> Exhibits can be attached to people, events, Sources, or Repositories. > There is no _need_ to attach Exhibits to events. > > By this I assume you are saying, "just store the exhibit with the person". > Don't waste your time storing it in the tag (event?). > > I have original documents for most of my sources; birth/marriage/death > certificates, baptismal records, military records, etc. Most contain way > more information than is ever stored in a source record or even the tag that > the source supports. Do you find it useful to store an image of a source > document in the source record? That way you wouldn't have to chase it down > in an individual's record to see everything it contains. > > Robert Thorpe > > > _______________________________________________ > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

From: Lee Hoffman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 5:01 PM > Exhibits can be attached to people, events, Sources, or Repositories. There is no _need_ to attach Exhibits to events. By this I assume you are saying, "just store the exhibit with the person". Don't waste your time storing it in the tag (event?). I have original documents for most of my sources; birth/marriage/death certificates, baptismal records, military records, etc. Most contain way more information than is ever stored in a source record or even the tag that the source supports. Do you find it useful to store an image of a source document in the source record? That way you wouldn't have to chase it down in an individual's record to see everything it contains. Robert Thorpe

At 4/4/2018 14:03, Robert Thorpe wrote >Thanks to all of you who responded to my original "Location of >exhibits" question. After a false start or two, I managed to assign >my exhibits to their appropriate tags in my database. I did have a >little frustration because I had to load each exhibit to individual >tags (with the exception of the "marriage" tag which assigned the >same exhibit to the wife's marriage tag when I added it to the husband). Exhibits can be attached to people, events, Sources, or Repositories. There is no _need_ to attach Exhibits to events. TMG doesn't care. It will find the Exhibit in the specified folder by the given filename. If you tell TMG to look for Exhibits in the Exhibits folder, and the Exhibit is actually in the Photos subfolder of the Exhibits folder then TMG may not find it unless you have told it to search in subfolders. >There were a couple of things that would have made things much >handier but I couldn't figure out how to get TMG to do them: > >First, what I would have liked to have done was load an exhibit to a >source (which you can do), but it would have been nice to have the >exhibits for those sources automatically be added to an individual's >exhibits when one of those sources was cited. I tried it but it >didn't work. Is there some way to do this that I just couldn't figure out. No, this is not possible. This would require a re-structuring of the TMG files. It might be that a report could be devised that would do what you want. But that would have to be a third party program at this point, and I doubt it would ever happen. >Second, Lee recommended that I assign all exhibits as "external" exhibits. I'll qualify that by saying that some text-only files would be good candidates for being Internal. >After I had loaded about half of mine, I noticed that they were all >"internal" exhibits. I guess that is the default. Check the settings of File=Preferences=>Program Options=>Exhibits. I have mine set to Ask each time. This allows me to determine what I want for that Exhibit. This primarily is concerned with image files (JPG, TIF, GIF, PNG, BMP, etc. as TMG has routines to handle most of these kind of formats. Many other file formats are not handled by TMG and thus will automatically be External. Lee

At 4/4/2018 4:20 PM, Robert Thorpe wrote: > >Could you try a JPG and see what it does? > Same behavior for me -- Pop-up asking if I want External or Internal (you know, I should probably change my default to just external <G>) Normally I only use JPEG for web-sites (my ISP gives me 10MB per email address for web storage). For other usage I tend to favor PNG, as it is lossless. JPEG loses rapidly changing detail to preserve color impression, while GIF loses color [only 256 distinct colors per image] to preserve detail. And for photography -- my cameras are set to "RAW+JPEG", RAW for my use, JPEG to distribute to others during the shoot. -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

At 4/4/2018 14:51, Pat Reece wrote >I must be thinking too basicly. I think that an Ahnentafel Chart >would show the child the most distant past direct-line >relatives. Let him look at the births of the last generations on >the chart to learn how long ago they lived. No, not at all. The Ahnentafel is also a good idea. In fact, depending on your data, this could be almost the easiest way. But, some may enter ancestry that they feel is right, but have reservations about including for "publication". That is, "it is only for my use until I find more verification". As as example, I can _supposedly_ trace my ancestry to Adam and Eve. I feel very comfortable with the last five hundred years (having verified that), and I feel very comfortable with Adam & Eve up to about 400 BCE. But, the middle part is very much uncertain. Some parts are good, but others aren't. So, for me, my farthest back ancestor (11th GGF) was in my 14th generation and was born in 1528 in Germany. However, I also have a couple of lines with ancestors in the 15th generation, but they weren't born until about 1560. Thus, for me, the List of People End of Line report is better. It just lists a few people from which I can quickly see who is the one(s) that I want. I also have one line that traces to the 11th century -- a 30th great grandfather -- but since some of that line needs more verification, I have not linked it in. Some other indicate they have found his father & grandfather, but I that is even more questionable. Lee

-----Original Message----- From: Dennis Lee Bieber [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:43 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: Location of exhibits - Additional comments/questions > What type of exhibits are you using? Most are scans of official documents like birth certificates saved as JPGs > Image files are controlled by TMG Preferences to be: Internal, External Link, Ask each time. I think this is what I was after, Thanks In a quick test, a text file added to an event came in as external. Heck -- I just added a .TXT, .PNG, .RTF, .BMP, and .PDF; ALL came in as External -- the .png and .bmp asked how I wanted them, the .pdf warned that TMG can't embed them in reports, and the .txt and .rtf just quietly came in as externals with no additional prompts. Could you try a JPG and see what it does? Thanks, Robert Thorpe

Hi all, Thanks for all the responses to this thread and sorry for any ambiguity. It seems as though we have two trains of thought going here and thus different solutions. Since there are apparently two interpretations of the question i.e.: (longest living person) or longest ago ancestor in the database. I think we are showing our genealogical bias to be more interested in the latter. In my opinion: a) the goal of genealogists is to find any information about an individual as far back in time as possible To this group, the age of a particular individual is not as important as finding the next "brick wall" to be removed. b) to a child of 7 and older non-genealogically inclined persons, the age of the oldest (how long did they live) person would be more relevant than how many generations back a student of genealogy could find. In the latter group, the ages of various individual's lifespan is a better measure of mortality/immortality than how long ago the person lived. After all most people in this group can't name more than a couple of relatives living more than 4-5 generations back. As such, there is little interest or relevance as to whether or not a person lived in the 6th generation or the 60th. Just my thoughts. I am getting back to his father for further clarification and will let the list know. Meanwhile, I find the discussion stimulating and have a greater appreciation of the listers and their speed of offering potential solutions to my question through the use of TMG. Roger Troutman Mansfield OH . On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Pat Reece <[email protected]> wrote: > I must be thinking too basicly. I think that an Ahnentafel Chart would > show the child the most distant past direct-line relatives. Let him look > at the births of the last generations on the chart to learn how long ago > they lived. > > > Pat Reece > > ________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]? > subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

At 4/4/2018 1:03 PM, Robert Thorpe wrote: >Second, Lee recommended that I assign all exhibits as "external" exhibits. >After I had loaded about half of mine, I noticed that they were all >"internal" exhibits. I guess that is the default. So I had to go back and What type of exhibits are you using? Image files are controlled by TMG Preferences to be: Internal, External Link, Ask each time. In a quick test, a text file added to an event came in as external. Heck -- I just added a .TXT, .PNG, .RTF, .BMP, and .PDF; ALL came in as External -- the .png and .bmp asked how I wanted them, the .pdf warned that TMG can't embed them in reports, and the .txt and .rtf just quietly came in as externals with no additional prompts. -- [email protected] Dennis Lee Bieber HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

I already had a focus group of my ancestors and just created a report including age at death to the standard output. Quick and easy way to skim for those over 80. Might be fun for her son to look for the oldest people in his ancestry - or the ones who died young. Thanks for the tip, Donald. I so rarely use lists that I wouldn't have thought of it. - Sally On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Donald Range <[email protected]> wrote: > A List of People report, filtered for Age at death > greater than > 100 > may turn up a short list of likely candidates. If not, try a lower number > than 100. Include Age at death as a report output column to make it easy to > screen the list. I tried this and found a clear winner in my database who > died at age 236 - so some data cleanup is clearly needed. > > > > On 4/4/2018 9:53 AM, Roger Troutman wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> My grandson (aged 7) asked me who and how old was our oldest ancestor. I >> find no obvious way to figure this out in my TMG database (v. >> 9.05).running >> on Windows 7, >> >> I know the data is in the database, I just can't figure out how to and/or >> if it can be extracted without looking individually at several thousand >> ancestors >> >> I'm not sure whether this is a low-bar, high-bar or brick wall question >> but >> any suggestions would be appreciated. By means of a default (listed) >> report, a created report, data list, data export etc. etc. >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Roger Troutman >> Mansfield, Ohio >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances >> try.com/th/index/TMG/ >> Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry >> .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >> _______________________________________________ >> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]? >> subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >> >> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr >> y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> >> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >> information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ances > try.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry > .com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]? > subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I have all photos, including scanned docs, in Pictures, where I have a couple hundred files. There are a lot of different family folders with subfolders. That's where my external files will be found. I do not use the TMG files for photos. Occasionally, I do lose the link when I decide a family group is getting too big and need to break it down, but that is easy to fix. Since I don't have a web site and mostly add the photos to print documents, I find them easily this way. Guess it depends on how you plan to use them, where you want to put them. - Sally On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Richard Damon <[email protected]> wrote: > On 4/2/18 5:02 PM, Robert Thorpe wrote: > > I would like to give this a try but it would be really great if I could > have multiple locations. I keep all my portraits in one place for my own > organizational convenience, but official documents are somewhere else. > Census records somewhere else again. Do you have a workaround for this. Of > course this assumes that you want to use the original documents, not ones > copied somewhere to a folder exclusively used by TMG. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Damon [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 3:33 PM > > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TMG] Re: Location of exhibits > > > > To change the location of already created exhibits, you use the check > file integrity function and give it the new location of where your exhibits > are now stored. > > > > To get around this problem, I store all by exhibits in folders like > C:\genealogy\exhibits that way it isn’t tied to my user name (or where this > version of windows wants to place my user files). > > Well, I have > > C:\genealogy\exhibits Pictures and the like > > C:\genealogy\sources Most source documents, often also attached as an > exhibit to the source > > C:\genealogy\sources\census for images of censuss. > > and so on. > > TMG does NOT require all exhibits come from a single folder, so I do > scatter them a bit to organize them. VFI allows a list of directories to > check, so even that doesn't get in the way (best to keep every file > having a unique name to help VFI, if something breaks the links, it just > takes the first matching name it finds))) > > -- > Richard Damon > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html

Brian, In the Journal Report options, Miscellaneous tab, check the box "Include spouse events." This should cause the narrative(s) for the spouse(s) to appear right after the narrative for the subject person. On 4/2/2018 5:18 PM, Brian Cole wrote: > I am trying to duplicate a report I did some years ago that had the > spouse's information as a separate entry. Journal doesn't have it unless > there was something special I need to click. I have Windows 10 and TMG v. > 9.05. Can you help me, please? > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html > The TMG archive is found here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ > Instructions on how to subscribe to TMG: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html >

On 4/2/18 5:02 PM, Robert Thorpe wrote: > I would like to give this a try but it would be really great if I could have multiple locations. I keep all my portraits in one place for my own organizational convenience, but official documents are somewhere else. Census records somewhere else again. Do you have a workaround for this. Of course this assumes that you want to use the original documents, not ones copied somewhere to a folder exclusively used by TMG. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Damon [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 3:33 PM > To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> > Subject: [TMG] Re: Location of exhibits > > To change the location of already created exhibits, you use the check file integrity function and give it the new location of where your exhibits are now stored. > > To get around this problem, I store all by exhibits in folders like C:\genealogy\exhibits that way it isn’t tied to my user name (or where this version of windows wants to place my user files). Well, I have C:\genealogy\exhibits  Pictures and the like C:\genealogy\sources Most source documents, often also attached as an exhibit to the source C:\genealogy\sources\census for images of censuss. and so on. TMG does NOT require all exhibits come from a single folder, so I do scatter them a bit to organize them. VFI allows a list of directories to check, so even that doesn't get in the way (best to keep every file having a unique name to help VFI, if something breaks the links, it just takes the first matching name it finds))) -- Richard Damon

I am trying to duplicate a report I did some years ago that had the spouse's information as a separate entry. Journal doesn't have it unless there was something special I need to click. I have Windows 10 and TMG v. 9.05. Can you help me, please?

At 4/2/2018 16:57, Robert Thorpe wrote >That worked, sort of. I no longer get the "file folder not found" message, >but some link must have been broken somewhere along the way because none of >my exhibits are exhibiting. It looks like I will have to go back and relink >all of them. Tedious, but not all that bad. I only have about 100. TMG can find and link the Exhibits when you run the File=>Maintenancce=>Verify File Integrity function. Select the Search for missing external exhibits option, click on the [Specificy the folders to search...] button and enter the file paths for the folders containing the Exhibits. At 4/2/2018 17:02, Robert Thorpe wrote >I would like to give this a try but it would be really great if I >could have multiple locations. I keep all my portraits in one place >for my own organizational convenience, but official documents are >somewhere else. Census records somewhere else again. Do you have a >workaround for this. Of course this assumes that you want to use the >original documents, not ones copied somewhere to a folder >exclusively used by TMG. That is not problem. I would suggest that you place all the various folder as sub-folders of a single folder. Then, select that folder as the file path that you enter in Preferences. Lee

I would like to give this a try but it would be really great if I could have multiple locations. I keep all my portraits in one place for my own organizational convenience, but official documents are somewhere else. Census records somewhere else again. Do you have a workaround for this. Of course this assumes that you want to use the original documents, not ones copied somewhere to a folder exclusively used by TMG. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Damon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 3:33 PM To: The Master Genealogist Rootsweb Email List <[email protected]> Subject: [TMG] Re: Location of exhibits To change the location of already created exhibits, you use the check file integrity function and give it the new location of where your exhibits are now stored. To get around this problem, I store all by exhibits in folders like C:\genealogy\exhibits that way it isn’t tied to my user name (or where this version of windows wants to place my user files).