Pam, The best test is direct Thorn line as in your Uncle Thorn. That is the yDNA Test. There is a mtDNA test that is maternal if your son's grandma is a Thorn descendant. If your son's maternal line is Thorn he can test for the Thorn line. I think it is your mother being a Thorn. See info below. E-mail this gentkeman and he willo be glad to answer this for you. terry@worldfamilies.net Terry Barton Y-Chromosome - DNA Tests Ethnic and Geographic Origins: All Y-DNA tests allow you to identify your ethnic and geographic origins, both recent and far distant on your direct male descending line. Among others, you will be able to check your Native-American or African Ancestry as well as for the Cohanim Ancestry. Y-DNA12 - 12 Marker Test: this test is the world standard to verify the Y chromosome for genetic matches between males. 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Order now -----Original Message----- From: Pam Reid [mailto:pamreid@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:39 AM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: THORN/THORNE DNA Testings Results OK, I have a (probably) dumb question about the DNA Project. Thorn/Thorne is my maternal line. Could my son or brother be tested or would if have to be my uncle, who is a Thorne from the paternal line? Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >I have included a link below for those interested in the Thorn/Thorne DNA >Project. We are still looking for other Thorn/Thorne/males to test. As >you can see when you check this website we have considerable differences in >our DNA results which now has 4 different groups . We are still waiting for >results of a Thorn male from the New York Thorn family as well as one from >Maryland who have already submitted tests. . There are two matches which >is myself and a cousin (Yellow on this chart). For this info go to the >Thorn project page (link provided below and click on "Results" Also >there are other things you can look at while there. The link is >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . > >Elmer Thorn > > > > >