DNA 12 marker is $99.00. How much is an upgrade? How much is 25 marker? Thanks, Pat

For information on DNA testing and ordering go to www.worldfamilies.com . Please let me know of any that are testing. You can start with the 12 marker for $99. However, if you want to refine your possibilities of matching more closely, you will need to test for 25 or 37 marker test. This helps determine approx generation where you might match. If you desire , you can start with the 12 marker to see if you match at all and then you can upgrade later. -----Original Message----- From: Elmer Thorn [mailto:eandmthorn@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:54 AM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: DNA testing? Lydia, If your dad is a Thorn male he carries the y chromosome that is used in DNA. Y chromosome follows the males from father to son down . Yes , it would be great to have him test to compare to the other New York Thorn's that have tested. It helps to bring clans (groups) together and helps further research . -----Original Message----- From: Lydia Kedzierski [mailto:lkedzierski@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:33 AM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: DNA testing? I am a Thorn descendent but off of a female Thorn a few generations back. Is their any value to asking my dad to be tested? We are descended from Orange County, NY area Thorn/Thornes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Lydia, If your dad is a Thorn male he carries the y chromosome that is used in DNA. Y chromosome follows the males from father to son down . Yes , it would be great to have him test to compare to the other New York Thorn's that have tested. It helps to bring clans (groups) together and helps further research . -----Original Message----- From: Lydia Kedzierski [mailto:lkedzierski@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:33 AM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: DNA testing? I am a Thorn descendent but off of a female Thorn a few generations back. Is their any value to asking my dad to be tested? We are descended from Orange County, NY area Thorn/Thornes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I am a Thorn descendent but off of a female Thorn a few generations back. Is their any value to asking my dad to be tested? We are descended from Orange County, NY area Thorn/Thornes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I will. I just have to call him to give him a heads up, then order the kit. I have been meaning to do this for the longest time and just keep letting it slip through the cracks. Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >Pam, We need him desperately to find that families connection to any other >Thorn Lines. Please let me know . Thanks Et > >-----Original Message----- >From: Pam Reid [mailto:pamreid@comcast.net] >Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:57 AM >To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA - 6 Lines -Do you match? > >I am going to ask my uncle to do the test. I am sure he will be quite >willing. We are reasonably sure we are descended from Thomas Thorn who >landed in Gloucester, VA from England in 1635. > >Pam > >Elmer Thorn wrote: > > > >>We now have 7 test results on Thorn/Thorne DNA and only 2 that match. So >> >> >the > > >>old theory that we all were descendants from the New York family is >>incorrect. In fact to find so many Thorn/Thorne lines seems unusual. We are >>still needing those to test to find matches with these 6 lines. Especially >>looking for a descendant from Thomas Thorn of Virginia and the Thorn's from >>West Virginia. We have a test result from the New York family so if you are >> >> >>from that family it would be great to find a few more to match the one > > >>already submitted . Also curious about the Thorns from New Jersey. Where do >>they connect? Let's get some others tested to begin to connect the family >>lines and help us target our research to specific lines . If you know of >> >> >any > > >>Thorn males that we can get to test or give them information on testing >>please contact me . I will be happy to help them understand the testing. To >>view results go to >> >>http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . There are two >>that haven't been posted yet but you can keep updated on the results there. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >

Pam, We need him desperately to find that families connection to any other Thorn Lines. Please let me know . Thanks Et -----Original Message----- From: Pam Reid [mailto:pamreid@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:57 AM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA - 6 Lines -Do you match? I am going to ask my uncle to do the test. I am sure he will be quite willing. We are reasonably sure we are descended from Thomas Thorn who landed in Gloucester, VA from England in 1635. Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >We now have 7 test results on Thorn/Thorne DNA and only 2 that match. So the >old theory that we all were descendants from the New York family is >incorrect. In fact to find so many Thorn/Thorne lines seems unusual. We are >still needing those to test to find matches with these 6 lines. Especially >looking for a descendant from Thomas Thorn of Virginia and the Thorn's from >West Virginia. We have a test result from the New York family so if you are >from that family it would be great to find a few more to match the one >already submitted . Also curious about the Thorns from New Jersey. Where do >they connect? Let's get some others tested to begin to connect the family >lines and help us target our research to specific lines . If you know of any >Thorn males that we can get to test or give them information on testing >please contact me . I will be happy to help them understand the testing. To >view results go to > >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . There are two >that haven't been posted yet but you can keep updated on the results there. > > > > > >

I am going to ask my uncle to do the test. I am sure he will be quite willing. We are reasonably sure we are descended from Thomas Thorn who landed in Gloucester, VA from England in 1635. Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >We now have 7 test results on Thorn/Thorne DNA and only 2 that match. So the >old theory that we all were descendants from the New York family is >incorrect. In fact to find so many Thorn/Thorne lines seems unusual. We are >still needing those to test to find matches with these 6 lines. Especially >looking for a descendant from Thomas Thorn of Virginia and the Thorn's from >West Virginia. We have a test result from the New York family so if you are >from that family it would be great to find a few more to match the one >already submitted . Also curious about the Thorns from New Jersey. Where do >they connect? Let's get some others tested to begin to connect the family >lines and help us target our research to specific lines . If you know of any >Thorn males that we can get to test or give them information on testing >please contact me . I will be happy to help them understand the testing. To >view results go to > >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . There are two >that haven't been posted yet but you can keep updated on the results there. > > > > > >

We now have 7 test results on Thorn/Thorne DNA and only 2 that match. So the old theory that we all were descendants from the New York family is incorrect. In fact to find so many Thorn/Thorne lines seems unusual. We are still needing those to test to find matches with these 6 lines. Especially looking for a descendant from Thomas Thorn of Virginia and the Thorn's from West Virginia. We have a test result from the New York family so if you are from that family it would be great to find a few more to match the one already submitted . Also curious about the Thorns from New Jersey. Where do they connect? Let's get some others tested to begin to connect the family lines and help us target our research to specific lines . If you know of any Thorn males that we can get to test or give them information on testing please contact me . I will be happy to help them understand the testing. To view results go to http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . There are two that haven't been posted yet but you can keep updated on the results there.

Donna, None of your names match any of mine. My Thomas THORN was born in NJ 28 Jul 1806 and died in CA in 1854. He had come to AR, married Mary Fisher SHERMAN (spelled many ways) in Little Rock, AR where he was the stone mason who built the State House, then to Texas in 1844, on to CA for the gold rush in 1849. Pat

I am a descendent of Rebecca Thorn who married Isaac Overacre 1790 in Frederick Co VA. Their daughter,Rebecca Overacre, married William Burton Winston, my ancestor. Her sister, Mary, married first James T. Magruder and, 2nd General Cowles Mead. Any information regarding the ancestry of Rebecca Thorn would be much Appreciated. Douglas Winston Burke

Elmer, We descend from William Thorne and his wife, Susannah Booth who lived in NY. I am interested in knowing how to go about having the DNA. My nephew might be willing to do to send his DNA. We need to know what to do and the cost. We thought several of us might chip in to get it done. Would you, please, e-mail me all of the particulars? Thank you. Patricia Thorn Jones

I descend from William Thorne and wife, Susannah. I had copies of old Bible records that tied in Enoch Thorn his wife, Catherine Nagle, who are mentioned in Genealogies of Long Island Families. I am in Sherman, TX. Pat

George, do you descend from William THORNE and Susannah BOOTH? Pat

George, I am excited to know the results. Your family is probably the most prominent Thorn family in US . Interesting to see how many might link to yours. Et -----Original Message----- From: GThorneMD@aol.com [mailto:GThorneMD@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:37 PM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: THORN/THORNE DNA Testings Results Elmer I checked my records for the dna testing..should be available in about 3 weeks..I'll let you know best George

Elmer I checked my records for the dna testing..should be available in about 3 weeks..I'll let you know best George

Yes, my mother was a Thorne. I have done extensive research on that line which is why I maintain this list. I feel sure my uncle would agree to be tested and he is a direct descendent of the Thorn/Thorne paternal line. Thanks so much! Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >Pam, The best test is direct Thorn line as in your Uncle Thorn. That is the >yDNA Test. There is a mtDNA test that is maternal if your son's grandma is >a Thorn descendant. If your son's maternal line is Thorn he can test for the >Thorn line. I think it is your mother being a Thorn. See info below. >E-mail this gentkeman and he willo be glad to answer this for you. >terry@worldfamilies.net Terry Barton > > >Y-Chromosome - DNA Tests > > >Ethnic and Geographic Origins: All Y-DNA tests allow you to identify your >ethnic and geographic origins, both recent and far distant on your direct >male descending line. Among others, you will be able to check your >Native-American or African Ancestry as well as for the Cohanim Ancestry. > > > > >Y-DNA12 - 12 Marker Test: this test is the world standard to verify the Y >chromosome for genetic matches between males. Results are placed in our >Y-DNA database and when 2 people show the same identical results, we will >inform both parties if they have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. The >customer receives a Certificate & report generally describing Y-DNA >sequencing and the meaning of the probability between matches. Order now > >Y-DNA37 - 37 Marker Test: tests the Y chromosome for genetic matches between >males. Results are placed in our Y-DNA database and when 2 people show the >same identical or near identical results, we will inform both parties if you >have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. A perfect match of 37 markers means >that the two individuals matching shared a common ancestor in recent times. >The customer receives a Certificate & report generally describing Y-DNA >sequencing and the meaning of probability between matches. Order now > > > >Y-DNA59 - 59 Marker Test: the highest resolution Y-DNA test in the world: >tests the Y chromosome for genetic matches between males. Results are placed >in our Y-DNA database and when 2 people show the same identical or near >identical results, we will inform both parties if you have both signed the >FTDNA Release Form. A perfect match of 59 markers means a very tight >connection: a common ancestor in very recent times. The customer receives a >Certificate & report generally describing Y-DNA sequencing and the meaning >of probability between matches. Order now > >Y-Refine12to37: This refinement of our 12 marker Y-DNA test dramatically >reduces the time (in generations) to the Most Recent Common Ancestor. >Y-DNA12to37 adds 25 additional markers to your previous results without the >need for you to provide an additional sample. Therefore it can't be ordered >as a stand-alone test without you having previously ordered the Y-DNA test. >Order now > > > >Y-Refine12to59: This refinement of our 12 marker Y-DNA test dramatically >reduces the time (in generations) to the Most Recent Common Ancestor. >Y-DNA12to59 adds 47 additional markers to your previous results without the >need for you to provide an additional sample. Therefore it can't be ordered >as a stand-alone test without you having previously ordered the Y-DNA test. >Order now > > > >Y-Refine37to59: This refinement of our 37 marker Y-DNA test dramatically >reduces the time (in generations) to the Most Recent Common Ancestor. >Y-DNA37to59 adds 22 additional markers to your previous results without the >need for you to provide an additional sample. Therefore it can't be ordered >as a stand-alone test without you having previously ordered the Y-DNA test. >Order now > >Oxford Conversion Kit: this test will add the markers needed to convert your >Oxford results to our Y-DNA 37 Marker test. You only need to provide us a >copy of your Oxford results, and to use the kit to send us a DNA sample. >Your results will be added to our database and matched to the other people >in it. You will also be able to search our Recent Ethnic Origins database. >Order now > >Ancestry Conversion Kit: The Ancestry Conversion Kit will test the >additional markers that are needed to make your results significant from the >genealogical standpoint and ready for inclusion in our database for 37 >markers. This kit is also good for converting any competitors' results. >Order now > > > > > > >Mitochondria - mtDNA Tests > > >mtDNA: tests the mtDNA of females and the female lineage of males for HVR1 >(16001 to 16569). Results are placed in our mtDNA database and when 2 people >show the same identical polymorphism, we will inform both parties if you >have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. The customer receives a report >generally describing mtDNA, the meaning of polymorphism, your differences >from the Cambridge Reference Sequence and the meaning of probability between >matches. >Ethnic and Geographic Origins - "Eve's Daughters": this test also allows you >to identify your ethnic and geographic origins, both recent and far distant, >on your direct maternal line. Among other features, this test will be able >to indicate your Native-American Ancestry and which of the 5 major groups >that settled in the Americas you are most likely to be descended from. Or, >it will point to African Ancestry or other ethnic origins, known as the >branches related to "Eve's Daughters". Note that since we are testing only >your maternal line, the results will not have input from any spouses along >the way Order now > > > >mtDNAPlus: tests the mtDNA HVR1 and HVR2 of females and the female lineage >of males, and also verifies possible Native American and African ancestry. >This is the mtDNA test that includes the most number of base pairs offered >anywhere: 16001 to 16569 and 00001 to 00574, for a total of 1143 base pairs. >Results are placed in our mtDNA database and when 2 people show the same >identical polymorphism, we will inform both parties if you have both signed >the FTDNA Release Form. The customer receives a report generally describing >mtDNA, the meaning of polymorphism, your differences from the Cambridge >Reference Sequence and the meaning of probability between matches. >Ethnic and Geographic Origins - "Eve's Daughters": this test also allows you >to identify your ethnic and geographic origins, both recent and far distant, >on your direct maternal line. Among other features, this test will be able >to indicate your Native-American Ancestry and which of the 5 major groups >that settled in the Americas you are most likely to be descended from. Or, >it will point to African Ancestry or other ethnic origins, known as the >branches related to "Eve's Daughters". Note that since we are testing only >your maternal line, the results will not have input from any spouses along >the way. Order now > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Pam Reid [mailto:pamreid@comcast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:39 AM >To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: THORN/THORNE DNA Testings Results > >OK, I have a (probably) dumb question about the DNA Project. >Thorn/Thorne is my maternal line. Could my son or brother be tested or >would if have to be my uncle, who is a Thorne from the paternal line? > >Pam > >Elmer Thorn wrote: > > > >>I have included a link below for those interested in the Thorn/Thorne DNA >>Project. We are still looking for other Thorn/Thorne/males to test. As >>you can see when you check this website we have considerable differences >> >> >in > > >>our DNA results which now has 4 different groups . We are still waiting >> >> >for > > >>results of a Thorn male from the New York Thorn family as well as one from >>Maryland who have already submitted tests. . There are two matches which >>is myself and a cousin (Yellow on this chart). For this info go to the >>Thorn project page (link provided below and click on "Results" Also >>there are other things you can look at while there. The link is >>http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . >> >>Elmer Thorn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >

OK, I have a (probably) dumb question about the DNA Project. Thorn/Thorne is my maternal line. Could my son or brother be tested or would if have to be my uncle, who is a Thorne from the paternal line? Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >I have included a link below for those interested in the Thorn/Thorne DNA >Project. We are still looking for other Thorn/Thorne/males to test. As >you can see when you check this website we have considerable differences in >our DNA results which now has 4 different groups . We are still waiting for >results of a Thorn male from the New York Thorn family as well as one from >Maryland who have already submitted tests. . There are two matches which >is myself and a cousin (Yellow on this chart). For this info go to the >Thorn project page (link provided below and click on "Results" Also >there are other things you can look at while there. The link is >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . > >Elmer Thorn > > > > >

Pam, The best test is direct Thorn line as in your Uncle Thorn. That is the yDNA Test. There is a mtDNA test that is maternal if your son's grandma is a Thorn descendant. If your son's maternal line is Thorn he can test for the Thorn line. I think it is your mother being a Thorn. See info below. E-mail this gentkeman and he willo be glad to answer this for you. terry@worldfamilies.net Terry Barton Y-Chromosome - DNA Tests Ethnic and Geographic Origins: All Y-DNA tests allow you to identify your ethnic and geographic origins, both recent and far distant on your direct male descending line. Among others, you will be able to check your Native-American or African Ancestry as well as for the Cohanim Ancestry. Y-DNA12 - 12 Marker Test: this test is the world standard to verify the Y chromosome for genetic matches between males. Results are placed in our Y-DNA database and when 2 people show the same identical results, we will inform both parties if they have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. The customer receives a Certificate & report generally describing Y-DNA sequencing and the meaning of the probability between matches. Order now Y-DNA37 - 37 Marker Test: tests the Y chromosome for genetic matches between males. Results are placed in our Y-DNA database and when 2 people show the same identical or near identical results, we will inform both parties if you have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. A perfect match of 37 markers means that the two individuals matching shared a common ancestor in recent times. The customer receives a Certificate & report generally describing Y-DNA sequencing and the meaning of probability between matches. Order now Y-DNA59 - 59 Marker Test: the highest resolution Y-DNA test in the world: tests the Y chromosome for genetic matches between males. Results are placed in our Y-DNA database and when 2 people show the same identical or near identical results, we will inform both parties if you have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. A perfect match of 59 markers means a very tight connection: a common ancestor in very recent times. The customer receives a Certificate & report generally describing Y-DNA sequencing and the meaning of probability between matches. Order now Y-Refine12to37: This refinement of our 12 marker Y-DNA test dramatically reduces the time (in generations) to the Most Recent Common Ancestor. Y-DNA12to37 adds 25 additional markers to your previous results without the need for you to provide an additional sample. Therefore it can't be ordered as a stand-alone test without you having previously ordered the Y-DNA test. Order now Y-Refine12to59: This refinement of our 12 marker Y-DNA test dramatically reduces the time (in generations) to the Most Recent Common Ancestor. Y-DNA12to59 adds 47 additional markers to your previous results without the need for you to provide an additional sample. Therefore it can't be ordered as a stand-alone test without you having previously ordered the Y-DNA test. Order now Y-Refine37to59: This refinement of our 37 marker Y-DNA test dramatically reduces the time (in generations) to the Most Recent Common Ancestor. Y-DNA37to59 adds 22 additional markers to your previous results without the need for you to provide an additional sample. Therefore it can't be ordered as a stand-alone test without you having previously ordered the Y-DNA test. Order now Oxford Conversion Kit: this test will add the markers needed to convert your Oxford results to our Y-DNA 37 Marker test. You only need to provide us a copy of your Oxford results, and to use the kit to send us a DNA sample. Your results will be added to our database and matched to the other people in it. You will also be able to search our Recent Ethnic Origins database. Order now Ancestry Conversion Kit: The Ancestry Conversion Kit will test the additional markers that are needed to make your results significant from the genealogical standpoint and ready for inclusion in our database for 37 markers. This kit is also good for converting any competitors' results. Order now Mitochondria - mtDNA Tests mtDNA: tests the mtDNA of females and the female lineage of males for HVR1 (16001 to 16569). Results are placed in our mtDNA database and when 2 people show the same identical polymorphism, we will inform both parties if you have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. The customer receives a report generally describing mtDNA, the meaning of polymorphism, your differences from the Cambridge Reference Sequence and the meaning of probability between matches. Ethnic and Geographic Origins - "Eve's Daughters": this test also allows you to identify your ethnic and geographic origins, both recent and far distant, on your direct maternal line. Among other features, this test will be able to indicate your Native-American Ancestry and which of the 5 major groups that settled in the Americas you are most likely to be descended from. Or, it will point to African Ancestry or other ethnic origins, known as the branches related to "Eve's Daughters". Note that since we are testing only your maternal line, the results will not have input from any spouses along the way Order now mtDNAPlus: tests the mtDNA HVR1 and HVR2 of females and the female lineage of males, and also verifies possible Native American and African ancestry. This is the mtDNA test that includes the most number of base pairs offered anywhere: 16001 to 16569 and 00001 to 00574, for a total of 1143 base pairs. Results are placed in our mtDNA database and when 2 people show the same identical polymorphism, we will inform both parties if you have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. The customer receives a report generally describing mtDNA, the meaning of polymorphism, your differences from the Cambridge Reference Sequence and the meaning of probability between matches. Ethnic and Geographic Origins - "Eve's Daughters": this test also allows you to identify your ethnic and geographic origins, both recent and far distant, on your direct maternal line. Among other features, this test will be able to indicate your Native-American Ancestry and which of the 5 major groups that settled in the Americas you are most likely to be descended from. Or, it will point to African Ancestry or other ethnic origins, known as the branches related to "Eve's Daughters". Note that since we are testing only your maternal line, the results will not have input from any spouses along the way. Order now -----Original Message----- From: Pam Reid [mailto:pamreid@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:39 AM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: THORN/THORNE DNA Testings Results OK, I have a (probably) dumb question about the DNA Project. Thorn/Thorne is my maternal line. Could my son or brother be tested or would if have to be my uncle, who is a Thorne from the paternal line? Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >I have included a link below for those interested in the Thorn/Thorne DNA >Project. We are still looking for other Thorn/Thorne/males to test. As >you can see when you check this website we have considerable differences in >our DNA results which now has 4 different groups . We are still waiting for >results of a Thorn male from the New York Thorn family as well as one from >Maryland who have already submitted tests. . There are two matches which >is myself and a cousin (Yellow on this chart). For this info go to the >Thorn project page (link provided below and click on "Results" Also >there are other things you can look at while there. The link is >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . > >Elmer Thorn > > > > >

I am searching for a Eliakim Thorn who migrated from Vermont about 1800 and moved to Meigs County, Ohio. He was married to a Lucy Mahurn in 1796 in Rutland County, Vermont and had at least two children, possibly from a first marriage. Mirella who married a Hecox and also migrated to Meigs, Ohio and a son who was possible from the second marriage to Lucy, Lemuel. Any help will be appreciated. Elaine Day --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

I have included a link below for those interested in the Thorn/Thorne DNA Project. We are still looking for other Thorn/Thorne/males to test. As you can see when you check this website we have considerable differences in our DNA results which now has 4 different groups . We are still waiting for results of a Thorn male from the New York Thorn family as well as one from Maryland who have already submitted tests. . There are two matches which is myself and a cousin (Yellow on this chart). For this info go to the Thorn project page (link provided below and click on "Results" Also there are other things you can look at while there. The link is http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . Elmer Thorn