Pam, So far I haven't heard back from Jay. Just waiting for him to respond. Et -----Original Message----- From: thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Reid Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:54 PM To: thorn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [THORN] Thorn/Thorne DNA Results If the info that is needed is mine, I would be happy to pass it along to the interested party. Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >Jay, It is our policy not to add latest generations which is for privacy >purposes. If you can give me the family you think she might be looking for I >will check with them and see if it would be okay to release that info. >Actually, we don't have very much info on later generations as we ask only >for those that are deceased. I will be glad to help in any way. If you >will send me your private email address I would rather respond to any >further questions rather than post it on this website. >Sincerely >Elmer Thorn > >-----Original Message----- >From: thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of J.M. (Jay) Ingalls >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:30 AM >To: thorn@rootsweb.com >Subject: [THORN] Thorn/Thorne DNA Results > >Elmer, > >Can you add the birth and death location of the father of the latest >generation that submitted the data to the table at > >http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/results.html ? > > >I am trying to help an adopted female Thorne descendant identify her >ancestors. > >Jay Ingalls > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <thorn-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <thorn@rootsweb.com> >Sent: 14 September, 2006 8:06 AM >Subject: THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > > > > >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA (Elmer Thorn) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:45:26 -0500 >>From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox.net> >>Subject: [THORN] Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA >>To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com>, <Thorne-L@rootsweb.com> >>Message-ID: >><20060912234539.MFE7951.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>We now have another Thorn(e) Line established by DNA tests. As of >>now we >>have 3 established Thorn(e) lines established. Do you match any of >>these >>lines or is your Thorn(e) line different than any of these ? We are >>still >>looking for Thorn(e) males to take the DNA test so we can confirm >>more >>lines or greatly establish the ones we now have. The current match >>seems to >>go back to England . Go to the link below and click on the results >>tab to >>view the results and the Patriarch Tab to see where they all >>originate from. >> >> >>http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne >> >>If you are interested in testing please contact me and I will >>provide any >>information you will need to take the test. >> >> >> >>Sincerely >> >>Elmer Thorn >> >>Thorn(e) Project Administrator >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >> >> >>End of THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 >>*********************************** >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THORN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THORN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THORN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If the info that is needed is mine, I would be happy to pass it along to the interested party. Pam Elmer Thorn wrote: >Jay, It is our policy not to add latest generations which is for privacy >purposes. If you can give me the family you think she might be looking for I >will check with them and see if it would be okay to release that info. >Actually, we don't have very much info on later generations as we ask only >for those that are deceased. I will be glad to help in any way. If you >will send me your private email address I would rather respond to any >further questions rather than post it on this website. >Sincerely >Elmer Thorn > >-----Original Message----- >From: thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of J.M. (Jay) Ingalls >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:30 AM >To: thorn@rootsweb.com >Subject: [THORN] Thorn/Thorne DNA Results > >Elmer, > >Can you add the birth and death location of the father of the latest >generation that submitted the data to the table at > >http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/results.html ? > > >I am trying to help an adopted female Thorne descendant identify her >ancestors. > >Jay Ingalls > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <thorn-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <thorn@rootsweb.com> >Sent: 14 September, 2006 8:06 AM >Subject: THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > > > > >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA (Elmer Thorn) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:45:26 -0500 >>From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox.net> >>Subject: [THORN] Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA >>To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com>, <Thorne-L@rootsweb.com> >>Message-ID: >><20060912234539.MFE7951.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>We now have another Thorn(e) Line established by DNA tests. As of >>now we >>have 3 established Thorn(e) lines established. Do you match any of >>these >>lines or is your Thorn(e) line different than any of these ? We are >>still >>looking for Thorn(e) males to take the DNA test so we can confirm >>more >>lines or greatly establish the ones we now have. The current match >>seems to >>go back to England . Go to the link below and click on the results >>tab to >>view the results and the Patriarch Tab to see where they all >>originate from. >> >> >>http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne >> >>If you are interested in testing please contact me and I will >>provide any >>information you will need to take the test. >> >> >> >>Sincerely >> >>Elmer Thorn >> >>Thorn(e) Project Administrator >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >> >> >>End of THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 >>*********************************** >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THORN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THORN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Jay, Sorry for posting on the Thorne message board a second time about the Thorn(e) DNA. I didn't realize that your Message Board forwarded to the Mailing List. How did you get this to forward as the Thorn Message Board doesn't forward to the mailing list? I would like to see the administrator of that board forward to our Thorn List. I am not trying to solicit as I get paid nothing to administer the Thorn DNA Project Website. I am a Thorn that is interested in seeing our lines established here in the U S as well as European Countries and adding to paper research other avenues of research. Please let me know if it is not okay to post the link to the Thorne DNA website and I will not post it if you prefer . Sincerely Elmer Thorn -----Original Message----- From: thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J.M. (Jay) Ingalls Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:30 AM To: thorn@rootsweb.com Subject: [THORN] Thorn/Thorne DNA Results Elmer, Can you add the birth and death location of the father of the latest generation that submitted the data to the table at http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/results.html ? I am trying to help an adopted female Thorne descendant identify her ancestors. Jay Ingalls ----- Original Message ----- From: <thorn-request@rootsweb.com> To: <thorn@rootsweb.com> Sent: 14 September, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA (Elmer Thorn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:45:26 -0500 > From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox.net> > Subject: [THORN] Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA > To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com>, <Thorne-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <20060912234539.MFE7951.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > We now have another Thorn(e) Line established by DNA tests. As of > now we > have 3 established Thorn(e) lines established. Do you match any of > these > lines or is your Thorn(e) line different than any of these ? We are > still > looking for Thorn(e) males to take the DNA test so we can confirm > more > lines or greatly establish the ones we now have. The current match > seems to > go back to England . Go to the link below and click on the results > tab to > view the results and the Patriarch Tab to see where they all > originate from. > > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne > > If you are interested in testing please contact me and I will > provide any > information you will need to take the test. > > > > Sincerely > > Elmer Thorn > > Thorn(e) Project Administrator > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > *********************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THORN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jay, It is our policy not to add latest generations which is for privacy purposes. If you can give me the family you think she might be looking for I will check with them and see if it would be okay to release that info. Actually, we don't have very much info on later generations as we ask only for those that are deceased. I will be glad to help in any way. If you will send me your private email address I would rather respond to any further questions rather than post it on this website. Sincerely Elmer Thorn -----Original Message----- From: thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:thorn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J.M. (Jay) Ingalls Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:30 AM To: thorn@rootsweb.com Subject: [THORN] Thorn/Thorne DNA Results Elmer, Can you add the birth and death location of the father of the latest generation that submitted the data to the table at http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/results.html ? I am trying to help an adopted female Thorne descendant identify her ancestors. Jay Ingalls ----- Original Message ----- From: <thorn-request@rootsweb.com> To: <thorn@rootsweb.com> Sent: 14 September, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA (Elmer Thorn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:45:26 -0500 > From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox.net> > Subject: [THORN] Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA > To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com>, <Thorne-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <20060912234539.MFE7951.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > We now have another Thorn(e) Line established by DNA tests. As of > now we > have 3 established Thorn(e) lines established. Do you match any of > these > lines or is your Thorn(e) line different than any of these ? We are > still > looking for Thorn(e) males to take the DNA test so we can confirm > more > lines or greatly establish the ones we now have. The current match > seems to > go back to England . Go to the link below and click on the results > tab to > view the results and the Patriarch Tab to see where they all > originate from. > > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne > > If you are interested in testing please contact me and I will > provide any > information you will need to take the test. > > > > Sincerely > > Elmer Thorn > > Thorn(e) Project Administrator > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > *********************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THORN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elmer, Can you add the birth and death location of the father of the latest generation that submitted the data to the table at http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/results.html ? I am trying to help an adopted female Thorne descendant identify her ancestors. Jay Ingalls ----- Original Message ----- From: <thorn-request@rootsweb.com> To: <thorn@rootsweb.com> Sent: 14 September, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA (Elmer Thorn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:45:26 -0500 > From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox.net> > Subject: [THORN] Another Thorn(e) Lineage Established by DNA > To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com>, <Thorne-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <20060912234539.MFE7951.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > We now have another Thorn(e) Line established by DNA tests. As of > now we > have 3 established Thorn(e) lines established. Do you match any of > these > lines or is your Thorn(e) line different than any of these ? We are > still > looking for Thorn(e) males to take the DNA test so we can confirm > more > lines or greatly establish the ones we now have. The current match > seems to > go back to England . Go to the link below and click on the results > tab to > view the results and the Patriarch Tab to see where they all > originate from. > > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne > > If you are interested in testing please contact me and I will > provide any > information you will need to take the test. > > > > Sincerely > > Elmer Thorn > > Thorn(e) Project Administrator > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of THORN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 > ***********************************

We now have another Thorn(e) Line established by DNA tests. As of now we have 3 established Thorn(e) lines established. Do you match any of these lines or is your Thorn(e) line different than any of these ? We are still looking for Thorn(e) males to take the DNA test so we can confirm more lines or greatly establish the ones we now have. The current match seems to go back to England . Go to the link below and click on the results tab to view the results and the Patriarch Tab to see where they all originate from. http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne If you are interested in testing please contact me and I will provide any information you will need to take the test. Sincerely Elmer Thorn Thorn(e) Project Administrator

We now have three matches on one Thorn(e) line . It appears to be from William Thorn(e) and Susannah Booth line. This should be of significant value to anyone researching this line. You now have the opportunity to establish the different branches on your tree. It also should provide a place in England to do more in depth research. Is it established where in England that William Thorn(e) originated from? Also, there are other lines that are testing that could get these same results. We need more Thorn(e) males testing. Go to http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/results.html to view these results. Also on this site you can find out more about testing or contact me and I will be happy to direct you. Can we get some more Thorn(e)'s to test? I need your help to do this. DNA research is making history. It helps to solidify paper research that many have spent years developing. Is your Thorn(e) family line established yet by DNA? Check it out on the link above. Sincerely Elmer Thorn Thorn(e) Project Administrator

I read the following info on the Legacy genealogy web site, thought people who do not use the program and do not know about the free copy of this book would be interested. Jay Ingalls ==================== From the Legacy News web site http://www.legacynews.typepad.com/: Free 1st edition of The Complete Idiot's Guide to Genealogy The 2nd edition of The Complete Idiot's Guide to Genealogy, written by genealogy superstars Christine Rose and Kay Germain Ingalls, was published in 2005, and is jam-packed of great genealogy advice for beginners and experienced researchers. The 1st edition, published in 1997, is now available as a free download. Much has changed in the 8 years since the first edition, but sound genealogy principles remain. All 353 pages are available to view. . . .

Just discovered that I could make the newspaper page size fill the screen when looking at one newspaper site. Went to Tools, Internet Options, Advanced, and under Multimedia, turned off "Enable Automatic Resizing". Worked for the Bellaire, Antrim County, Michigan paper. Made the paper fill the full page, rather than less than 1/4 of the screen. Not sure how it will work with other papers or web sites. The Bellaire paper does not use enough dpi's to make a sharp and easy to read page when viewed full screen. Bellaire's starting page is: http://www.smalltownpapers.com/listBEL.htm Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: <LoisBrownCombs@aol.com> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 28 July, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: [NYJEFFER] Re: NYJEFFER-D Digest V06 #105 > > In a message dated 7/26/06 1:01:12 PM, > NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Florence Secor writes: > >> Below is the main website for the newspaper project. >> >> http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/online.htm >> >> When I clicked on the Fulton Postcard item and used the search >> engine, - - - >> > Florence, > > Once more it's Florence to the rescue! Thank you so very much for > the url for > the newspaper project. After many months of fruitless searching, I > was able > to find an article about the suicide of Erwin Fairbanks in > Baldwinsville in > 1903. > > The search engine was easy to use and the word(s) were highlighted > in the > articles saving much time searching and attempting to decipher. > > Hurrahs for the newspaper project!! > > Lois

I am searching for the maiden name of Jean/Jane Leverett, widow of Thomas Leverett who died 1783 Lunenburg County Virginia. One clue provided to me by some Hightower, Thorn and Leverett researchers is that Jean was a Thorn prior to her marriage to Thomas Leverett of Lunenburg. Does anyone have information that would document the maiden name ... one way or the other? Thank you for considering my query. Charlotte

We now have a confirmed match on two more Thorn(e) members. One lists his family from New York and the other from New Jersey. Most likely they both descend from William Thorn and Susannah Booth. This is a great breakthrough for many that trace their roots back to the New York Thorn(e) family. If you suspect you have roots there , now is the time to test your DNA to see if you match this line. Also, we have other Thorn lines waiting to find their lineage matches. If you are a Thorn(e) male and uncertain of your ancestry or only suspicious of what line you descend from, now is the time to confirm your lineage through DNA. Are we certain that the West Virginia Thorn(e)'s were descendants from the New York Thorn(e)'s? Now we can confirm that. Also looking for those Thorn(e)'s from Pa,Va,WV,Vt,SC,and any other states as well as England Ireland Germany and European countries where Thorn(e)'s are notably from. For a simple test,Swabbing the inside of your cheek, go to http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A84729 <http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A84729&special=True&proj ecttype=S> &special=True&projecttype=S To View Thorn DNA Results and Patriarch go to http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne Sincerely Elmer Thorn Thorn DNA Administrator

Elmer...I have a "proposed" pedigree back to William (1638) but don't know how to do a DNA trace...your assistance or advice would be appreciated best George -----Original Message----- From: Elmer Thorn <eandmthorn@cox.net> To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:56:34 -0500 Subject: RE: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update George, yes I think it does according to the Rootsweb entries but I only entered what you sent. Do you want me to use the info from Rootsweb to take it on back or do you have that info? Et -----Original Message----- From: GThorneMD@aol.com [mailto:GThorneMD@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:10 PM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update In a message dated 6/26/2006 3:49:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, eandmthorn@cox.net writes: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html Elmer...how far back is the dna good for? I sorta thought that my line went back to William who arrived in Lynn Mass about 1638 and Susannah Boothe...apparently not...what to you think best George ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

George, If you have a proposed line just send it to me and we can post it. If the DNA from you and others match from William Thorn and Susannah Booth it will confirm the line. If not, then we have to get more tested to find the true lines. We have an 8 year old that is supposed to be from that line that has submitted DNA and are waiting for the results. If you both descend from William Thorn and Susannah the DNA should confirm this. So as of now let's go ahead and post your proposed line on back and we can always erase it if it is incorrect. Et -----Original Message----- From: gthornemd@aol.com [mailto:gthornemd@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:23 AM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update Elmer...I have a "proposed" pedigree back to William (1638) but don't know how to do a DNA trace...your assistance or advice would be appreciated best George -----Original Message----- From: Elmer Thorn <eandmthorn@cox.net> To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:56:34 -0500 Subject: RE: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update George, yes I think it does according to the Rootsweb entries but I only entered what you sent. Do you want me to use the info from Rootsweb to take it on back or do you have that info? Et -----Original Message----- From: GThorneMD@aol.com [mailto:GThorneMD@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:10 PM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update In a message dated 6/26/2006 3:49:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, eandmthorn@cox.net writes: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html Elmer...how far back is the dna good for? I sorta thought that my line went back to William who arrived in Lynn Mass about 1638 and Susannah Boothe...apparently not...what to you think best George ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

In a message dated 6/26/2006 3:49:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, eandmthorn@cox.net writes: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html Elmer...how far back is the dna good for? I sorta thought that my line went back to William who arrived in Lynn Mass about 1638 and Susannah Boothe...apparently not...what to you think best George

George, yes I think it does according to the Rootsweb entries but I only entered what you sent. Do you want me to use the info from Rootsweb to take it on back or do you have that info? Et -----Original Message----- From: GThorneMD@aol.com [mailto:GThorneMD@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:10 PM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update In a message dated 6/26/2006 3:49:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, eandmthorn@cox.net writes: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html Elmer...how far back is the dna good for? I sorta thought that my line went back to William who arrived in Lynn Mass about 1638 and Susannah Boothe...apparently not...what to you think best George

Your Patriarch Page is posted. Take a look and let me know if it's okay. Et -----Original Message----- From: GThorneMD@aol.com [mailto:GThorneMD@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:49 PM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update Elmer....hope this is of some interest to you ... I lifted it from a document I wrote for my family... all persons are documented from an obituary and an appl to the Sons of the American Revolution....most of the commentary prior to my grandfather, Lansing (1896) is not certain. From this point forward, the lineage is well documented. Most of the information comes from an application for membership in the Sons of the American Revolution. Edward Thorn(1735-1805) was born in Nine Partners , New York. There is some question as to whether or not Nine Partners ever existed as an incorporated town. It is known that it was a term used for a parish of Quakers. The location is northeast of Rhinebeck, New York, near the current town of Millbrook. Some historians think that the name referred to the nine original settlers who divided the land between themselves. The original land grant came from King George III. The settlement of Nine Partners was defined by the Hudson River on the west, and stretched approximately 40 miles to the east. The territory was divided into 9 one- mile wide strips. Edward was a 2nd Lieutenant in Captain Benjamin Haight's company of Colonel Hopkins Regiment, Dutchess County, New York in 1799. The 1790 federal census lists Edward as a resident of Coxsackie, Albany County, New York. Coxsackie is about 20 miles from Gayhead. A map is available in the appendix. One might surmise that Edward might not have been welcome to stay in Nine Partners after the war, having not demonstrated pacifism. He moved about 70 miles north of Nine Partners and across the Hudson River into the foothills of the Catskill Mountains. The word "kill" is a Dutch term for brook. Edward became a farmer and dairyman in that area (I think). His friend Haight also moved to Greene County. Edward married Hanna Tripp and it is not known how many children they parented. One of their children was a William Thorn, who is our ancestor. He is buried with his wife in the Gayhead Cemetery, Greeneville, Greene County, New York. This location is on the map, and is currently in poor repair. Chapter Five William (5) is again of obscure history. It is assumed that he was born in Greene County, but could have been born in Dutchess County. The date of his birth is also unknown. It is known that he married a Mary Parks. They had at least one son, William, Jr. (6) born 20June1797. The Census of 1810 lists the family of William Thorn in the town of Greeneville with 9 family members. Chapter Six William Jr. (6) was probably born in Greene County 20June 1797. He married Betsy Finch and had at least one child, George. He is buried in Gayhead Cemetery, Greenville, Greene County (27August, 1874). County records indicate that he was Superintendent of the Poor in 1848 and a Supervisor on the Town Council in 1870. Betsy was probably born 9August 1801 and died 31March 1890 (conflicting data suggests 1790-1878). Chapter Seven George was born in 1820 in Greene County. He married Elizabeth Caroline Roe, and they parented four children, William (1845), Lansing Stephen (1849), Jane (1857), and George Edward (1865). Little is known about George and Elizabeth. It is assumed that they were born, resided in, and died in Greene County. I believe that the picture in the appendix is Elizabeth Caroline Roe with her grandchildren. Chapter Eight Lansing moved to Texas and worked in the railroad industry. His obituary follows. George Edward also moved to Texas and worked with his brother. He died at an early age in an accident. His obituary follows. George Edward married Lilly Corrine McBride, and had 2 sons, Lawrence and Lansing, both born in Fort Worth. After his death, Lilly married George H. Clifford of Abilene, whom she had taken in as a roomer in her Ft. Worth home. He was attending business school there. Later, they moved to New York where Mr. Clifford was a successful businessman. Lilly died in 1935 in New York and is buried in Fort Worth, Texas, with her parents, brother and George Edward. Lawrence was born in 1894 and died in 1952. He, with his wife Marie Logan, lived in Port Arthur, Texas. They had four children, Corrine, Lawrence, Florence, and Virginia. Lansing was born in 1896 and died in 1961. He married Esther Speer, and had 3 sons, Lansing, Clifford (twins born in 1921), and Milner(1924). They lived in El Paso, and eventually moved to Austin. Clifford was my father. He and both of his brothers were physicians in Austin, Texas. He died in 1996. Milner died in 1983, and Lansing is still well at age 85. Clifford had 4 children, Jean, George, Julie and Nancy. All are physicians and in good health with families of their own.

Elmer....hope this is of some interest to you ... I lifted it from a document I wrote for my family... all persons are documented from an obituary and an appl to the Sons of the American Revolution....most of the commentary prior to my grandfather, Lansing (1896) is not certain. From this point forward, the lineage is well documented. Most of the information comes from an application for membership in the Sons of the American Revolution. Edward Thorn(1735-1805) was born in Nine Partners , New York. There is some question as to whether or not Nine Partners ever existed as an incorporated town. It is known that it was a term used for a parish of Quakers. The location is northeast of Rhinebeck, New York, near the current town of Millbrook. Some historians think that the name referred to the nine original settlers who divided the land between themselves. The original land grant came from King George III. The settlement of Nine Partners was defined by the Hudson River on the west, and stretched approximately 40 miles to the east. The territory was divided into 9 one- mile wide strips. Edward was a 2nd Lieutenant in Captain Benjamin Haight’s company of Colonel Hopkins Regiment, Dutchess County, New York in 1799. The 1790 federal census lists Edward as a resident of Coxsackie, Albany County, New York. Coxsackie is about 20 miles from Gayhead. A map is available in the appendix. One might surmise that Edward might not have been welcome to stay in Nine Partners after the war, having not demonstrated pacifism. He moved about 70 miles north of Nine Partners and across the Hudson River into the foothills of the Catskill Mountains. The word “kill” is a Dutch term for brook. Edward became a farmer and dairyman in that area (I think). His friend Haight also moved to Greene County. Edward married Hanna Tripp and it is not known how many children they parented. One of their children was a William Thorn, who is our ancestor. He is buried with his wife in the Gayhead Cemetery, Greeneville, Greene County, New York. This location is on the map, and is currently in poor repair. Chapter Five William (5) is again of obscure history. It is assumed that he was born in Greene County, but could have been born in Dutchess County. The date of his birth is also unknown. It is known that he married a Mary Parks. They had at least one son, William, Jr. (6) born 20June1797. The Census of 1810 lists the family of William Thorn in the town of Greeneville with 9 family members. Chapter Six William Jr. (6) was probably born in Greene County 20June 1797. He married Betsy Finch and had at least one child, George. He is buried in Gayhead Cemetery, Greenville, Greene County (27August, 1874). County records indicate that he was Superintendent of the Poor in 1848 and a Supervisor on the Town Council in 1870. Betsy was probably born 9August 1801 and died 31March 1890 (conflicting data suggests 1790-1878). Chapter Seven George was born in 1820 in Greene County. He married Elizabeth Caroline Roe, and they parented four children, William (1845), Lansing Stephen (1849), Jane (1857), and George Edward (1865). Little is known about George and Elizabeth. It is assumed that they were born, resided in, and died in Greene County. I believe that the picture in the appendix is Elizabeth Caroline Roe with her grandchildren. Chapter Eight Lansing moved to Texas and worked in the railroad industry. His obituary follows. George Edward also moved to Texas and worked with his brother. He died at an early age in an accident. His obituary follows. George Edward married Lilly Corrine McBride, and had 2 sons, Lawrence and Lansing, both born in Fort Worth. After his death, Lilly married George H. Clifford of Abilene, whom she had taken in as a roomer in her Ft. Worth home. He was attending business school there. Later, they moved to New York where Mr. Clifford was a successful businessman. Lilly died in 1935 in New York and is buried in Fort Worth, Texas, with her parents, brother and George Edward. Lawrence was born in 1894 and died in 1952. He, with his wife Marie Logan, lived in Port Arthur, Texas. They had four children, Corrine, Lawrence, Florence, and Virginia. Lansing was born in 1896 and died in 1961. He married Esther Speer, and had 3 sons, Lansing, Clifford (twins born in 1921), and Milner(1924). They lived in El Paso, and eventually moved to Austin. Clifford was my father. He and both of his brothers were physicians in Austin, Texas. He died in 1996. Milner died in 1983, and Lansing is still well at age 85. Clifford had 4 children, Jean, George, Julie and Nancy. All are physicians and in good health with families of their own.

Elmer...I will be glad to post the data...btw I did go away for a long trip,,,just not a cruise...I went to Honduras on another medical mission...boy am I glad my ancestors chose the USA best George

God Bless you for your work. If we only had that same spirit across the globe some of the hate and killings would stop. I am comforted now to know you wasn't just blowing me off on my request :). Et -----Original Message----- From: GThorneMD@aol.com [mailto:GThorneMD@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:00 PM To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update Elmer...I will be glad to post the data...btw I did go away for a long trip,,,just not a cruise...I went to Honduras on another medical mission...boy am I glad my ancestors chose the USA best George

Elmer...maybe I come from the "not too clever" branch :) I just looked again at the DNA and my results (Iassume mine is GC) were posted...if you like, I can re-send you the family trace as far back as I can reasonably document best George -----Original Message----- From: Elmer Thorn <eandmthorn@cox.net> To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:31:56 -0500 Subject: Thorn/Thorne DNA Project Update I am now the coordinator for the Thorne/Thorn DNA Project. I am happy to report we have 10 who have tested and waiting on 3 results. We however only have two that match. It seems odd as Thorn isn't a common name. We have tests form the following family lines- New York -no match, Virginia -2 matches, Maryland-no match, Ohio (Vermont?)-no match, Germany-no match, U K -no match ,. We do have three new tests we are waiting for New Jersey - New York- and South Carolina. Hopefully we will find another match from these three tests. We are still needing those to test to solidify the lines that have already tested. We also really want the Thomas Thorn from Va family to test, as well as those from West Virginia , Pennsylvania Etc. If you have a Thorn line that hasn't tested yet please encourage someone from the Thorne/Thorn line to test to confirm your family lineage. This project is growing rapidly and will soon help those that are trying to unravel their lineage from presumed lineage. The link to the Thorne/Thorn website is http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/t/thorne/index.html . While there you can check out the results page and the Patriarch page to see the current results and Lineages. To order the test kit and get the Thorne/Thorne Project go to http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A84729 <http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A84729&special=True> &special=True If you have any questions please contact me Elmer Thorn Project Cordinator eandmthorn@cox.net ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.