hi there tery of what are you Common=ncetoins ogf thorns a too the doyle family my might doulbe conencted cause my mom"s grand father was a McDowell the come from scotland theasne that he are scottish but grand mother was decnednetof the william harrison thorton who was at the battle of padacah, ky in 1863ad but here lies the problem here greatmother twice before before big problem cause step mother was married twice and there great father william harrison and also nowen ad henry thorton was also widowed twice and reah married lady from ohio county . THERE LIES THE DELEMMA those thorns you speakc uf in ne yokr when did the the dolye's family line" ? YOU and they aerCONECTION IN KENTUCKY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Doc Thorne" <tltilm@bellsouth.net> To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:29 AM Subject: daguerre site > For those of you who truly enjoy photographic glimpses into our past, I highly recommend this new and growing site... incredible shots, and notations... look closely at the GALLERIES, you might see an ancestor. Doc > > http://www.daguerre.org/home.php > > > > > My clan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/upstateNY_Thorne_family > Terry 'Doc' Thorne tltilm@bellsouth.net 910.793.4288 >

haven't heard of that book...would be interesting to look at it is you find one, let me know thanks George

George, I found this on google search. I did have a lady e-mail me that she thought she had the book. We will see. Elmer William Thorn (M) b. between 1621 and 1623, #73546 Pop-up Pedigree William Thorn was the son of William Thorn. William Thorn was born between 1621 and 1623 at Halifax, Yorkshire, England. William Thorn was born in 1693 at Dorsetshire, England. He married Sarah Denton circa 1707 at Of, Dorsetshire, England; this marriage may have been to a different William Thorn. William Thorn married Mary Peck, daughter of Possibly father of Mary Robert Peck and Possibly mother of Mary Margaret (Unknown), before November 17, 1719. William Thorn married (Unknown) (Unknown). William Thorn married Mary Peck, daughter of Possibly father of Mary Robert Peck and Possibly mother of Mary Margaret (Unknown), in 1724; message posted to the Prince William County board by Laura Pack. Not verified. There is also an ancestral file with Sarah Denton born 1623/24 Bolton Yorkshire, England married to William Thorn 1639 Of Halifax, Yorkshire, England. Ancestral file in one instance shows all the children are from the marriage of William Thorn and Sarah Denton. Sarah Denton is listed as Willams spouse in Listed as William Thornes spouse in Eight Generations of William Thorne, by Joseph Middleton, 1913. William Thorn resided at at Dorsetshire, England. Tenders of Tobacco in Overwharton Parish ----- Original Message ----- From: <GThorneMD@aol.com> To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Thorn Book > haven't heard of that book...would be interesting to look at it is you find > one, let me know > thanks > George > >

For those of you who truly enjoy photographic glimpses into our past, I highly recommend this new and growing site... incredible shots, and notations... look closely at the GALLERIES, you might see an ancestor. Doc http://www.daguerre.org/home.php My clan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/upstateNY_Thorne_family Terry 'Doc' Thorne tltilm@bellsouth.net 910.793.4288

In a message dated 8/19/04 8:46:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eandmthorn@cox-internet.com writes: > Has anyone ever heard of a Book - Eight Generations of William Thorne by > Joseph Middleton published 1913? I think I have that "book." The one I have is several pages that are stapled together. Will find it and see what it says. Paulina Thorne

Has anyone ever heard of a Book - Eight Generations of William Thorne by Joseph Middleton published 1913? I would love to find a copy of it. It is quoted by a researcher as a source for Susannah Thorn ,daughter of Mary Peck Orear and William Thorn. Et

I recently purchased this facinating old book: "Golden Manual or The Royal Road to Success," by Henry Davenport Northrop, PBR Moss (publishers), Chase City, VA, copyright 1893 (?), 672-pages... It is in fair condition but all pages are intact and readable. Inside the following handwritten inscriptions are present: 1st front leaf: Mr. Thorne & family 2nd front leaf: This night I will never for git [sic] Nov 18 1900 John Allese Minnie Burnett and Sam Trot here 3rd front leaf: to: Eugene Thorne by: au agent Oct 4 1891 1st back leaf: Sept 3, 1906 Mr. Eugene Thorne Henderson N. Car 2nd back leaf: Sept 3 1906 Blanche Hardee and Asa A. Hardee Pg 283: Clara Clara Finch If anyone has an interest in this volume, please email me. Thanks, Doc Terry L. 'Doc' Thorne tltilm@bellsouth.net 910.793.4288

Well, I have a Martin THorn born about 1784 to 1794 in an unknown place and died in 1815 In Ohio. I have all of his descendents from there on but I have not been able to place him prior to his coming to Ohio. Elaine Day Highbush10@aol.com wrote:Does anyione have more info on Martin Thorn Descendants of Martin Thorn 1 Martin Thorn b: Abt. 1685 ........ 2 Thomas Thorn b: 1707 in Bath North Hampton Co. NC d: Unknown ............ +Mary Lee b: Abt. 1705 d: Unknown m: Unknown ........ 2 Martin Thorn b: Unknown d: Unknown Tom Hollingsworth highbush10@aol.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!

Does anyione have more info on Martin Thorn Descendants of Martin Thorn 1 Martin Thorn b: Abt. 1685 ........ 2 Thomas Thorn b: 1707 in Bath North Hampton Co. NC d: Unknown ............ +Mary Lee b: Abt. 1705 d: Unknown m: Unknown ........ 2 Martin Thorn b: Unknown d: Unknown Tom Hollingsworth highbush10@aol.com

I have been researching William Thorn and feel I am close to seeing that he was one and the same William Thorn that was married to : (1) ___ ? early 1700's (2) Mary Peck O'Rear abt 1723-24 and then (3) Sarah ___ Muse, Carter (William Thorn abt 1740's) Henry WIlson I have just received a lot of documentation form The Virginia Library that documents Land Purchases, Deeds,Wills, Tax Lists Etc. I do know that Sarah Muse Carter Thorn Wilson was John Thorn's (b late 1740's in Prince William Co) mother by him being executor of her will and that Sarah Thorn was appointed guardian of John Thorn and a sister Frances Carter in May 1762. John continues on through Prince William Co records until Oct 22 1806 where he sells the land granted to his father William Thorn in 1729 in then Stafford Co Va and quoted from document "He being the only son and heir at law" of WIlliam Thorn . In 1729 I believe that William Thorn was married to widow Mary (Peck) O'Rear as he was the step father of Daniel and John O'Rear. So you can see the connection between the two wives Mary Peck O'Rear and Sarah ___ ? Muse ,Carter,Thorn,Wilson. I hope this helps others researching either the Thorn, O'Rear or Muse -Carter lines as well. I am open to dialog on this. I also have documentation from a wonderful person ,DONALD WILSON, Librarian at Ruth E Lloyd Information Center (RELIC) Bull Run Regional Library. He has been most helpful and thorough as well. I will be glad to share this information with anyone that would like a copy.

Hi Donna, I have seen many referrals of your research. You must be the woman with the goods. I am trying to follow my ancestor William Thorn who was married to Sarah Jackson -Muse -Carter and then married William Thorn abt 1740's. They had one son John b c1750 which I am a descendant from. We are under the impression that William b 1685 who was married to Mary Peck O'Rear was another William than ours. But now I am seeing too many close simularities such as our William bought some land from Thomas Whitledge in Prince William in 1748 . Daniel O'Rear had some land that bordered Thomas Whitledge on the Occaquan River. So did our Thorns. Daniel was a step son to William b 1685. I also see William that married Mary Pack had a daughter Esther before he married Mary Peck. And William 1685 was a guardian to John and Daniel O'Rear after their fathers death. Could WIlliam b 1685 have been married once before he married Mary Peck and then married Mary and had Susannah , and after Mary's death - been the William that married Sarah Jackson-Muse-Carter and had John with her.?????? so William children Esther b bef 1716 mother #1 Susannah b 1719 mother Mary Peck ORear John b abt 1750 mother Sarah Jackson-Muse-Carter-Thorn-Wilson. We have to be half crazy to figure all of this out!!! Any advise you have would be greatly appreciated. Elmer Thorn

I found a John G Thorne b abt 1839 in Ohio and lived in Campbell Co Kentucky in the late 1800 and early 1900s. His wife was Josephine . Does anyone have any info on this family? He fits with my Thorn/Thorne family in Jackson Co Ohio which is only abt 100 miles from Campbell Co Ky. Campbell Co is just across the state line from Cincinatti Ohio. Interested if anyone has any info on this family. Et

My children are descendants of Henry THORN, b. ca. 1785, d. 22-Jan-1865, Mercer County, PA. His wife was named Mary (?), b. ca. 1785, died 15-Jan-1857. The only offspring of which I am aware was: Lavina THORN, born 1809, Morgantown, Monongalia Co., VA [now WVa], married Thomas McMAHAN 27-Apr-1826 at Lordstown, Trumbull Co., OH. Lavina died 29-Aug-1887 at West Salem, Mercer Co., PA, and is buried at Maysville, West Salem, Mercer Co., PA Thomas McMAHAN was born 1803, and d. 15-Oct-1875. Any further information on the Henry THORN family would be appreciated. Thanks, Don Havlicek Connersville, IN

Just wanted to share this with the list. hope someone might connect. Et ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> To: "J.M. (Jay) Ingalls" <jay_ingalls@pipeline.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: Fw: [VAPWILLI-L] WILLIAM THORN > Jay, Here is some correspondance that we have had on the matter. Notice the > Virginia Land owners information sent to me by Chocybrown below. I think we > have found our family. Thanks for the suggestions. Et > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> > To: <Chocybrown@aol.com> > Cc: "Jake Thorn" <JThorn7376@aol.com>; "Greg Volk" <the.volks@comcast.net>; > "Tony Thorne" <asthorne61@hotmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: [VAPWILLI-L] WILLIAM THORN > > > > Thanks again for this info. It has helped me confirm that this must be my > > family. I know that Mary Sanford who was married to a Thorn was living in > > Prince William Co Va in 1796 per her mother Henrietta Sanford 's will. We > > only see one Thorn there that was her age and it was John Thorn born abt > the > > same time as Mary Sanford. > > > > Also in 1771 there was a John Thorn and wife Mary deeded some land owned > by > > his father William Thorn. Notice John's wife is Mary. > > > > Then in 1810 we see John Thorn in the P W Co Census as being 45 and over > and > > a female the same age. Living two dwellings from him a William Thorn > (which > > must be his son) age 26-45 with 2 males under 10 which is the age of our > > Williams first two sons and then 2 females under 10 which we have yet to > > find any info on. Could have died young or married and we never found a > > marriage record of them. At any rate, we believe this is in fact our > Thorn > > line. I haven't seen anything on William Thorn or John Thorn after 1815 > in > > P W Co. Have you? That makes me believe also that the had gone west and > > were in Jackson Co Ohio in 1817. I have land record that William was there > > in 1817. Maybe John being old went with them. Thanks again for the info > on > > Virginia land owners. Interesting that there was a Brown living between > John > > and WIlliam Thorn in the 1810 Dumfries ,Prince WIlliam Co census. Maybe > > relation.?? Et > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <> > > To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:00 AM > > Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] WILLIAM THORN > > > > > > > "1815 Virginia Landowners Directory" > > > Vol 4 > > > Northern Region > > > by Roger G. Ward > > > 1999 > > > > > > Prince William County, Virginia > > > THORN, John=10NW > > > THORN, William=10NW > > > (The transcriber of this information was unsure of the name and also > lists > > it > > > with a ?? THOME due to the bad copy of the original document; however, > if > > you > > > find a WILLIAM THORN on the 1810 census for Prince William County, this > is > > > probably your guy. I would check for a John Thorn on the 1810 census.) > > > > > > Culpeper County, Virginia > > > THORN, Alex, estate; Hawville; 12E > > > THORN, John; Berry Hill, Mount Prospect; 12E. > > > > > > The above mentioned THORNS are the only ones found in the above > mentioned > > > reference book for the Northern Region of Virginia which includes the > > following > > > counties: Alexandria, culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, Frederick, Ind. City > of > > > Alexandria, Ind. City of Fredericksburg, Ind. City of Winchester, > Loudoun, > > > Madison, Orange, Pirnce William, Rockingham, Shenandoah, Spotsylvania > and > > Stafford > > > counties. > > > > > > 10NW would mean the location of the property was 10 mile northwest of > the > > > county courthouse at the Village of Dumfries in Prince William County in > > 1815. > > > > > > 12E would mean the location of the property was 12 east of the county > > > courthouse at the Village of Fairfax which is now known as Culpeper on > NE > > corner of > > > Davis Street and Main Street. > > > > > > Hope this helps in your analysis > > > > > > > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > > > Search this list's archived messages! > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > >

No direct relation... that THORN family settled in NC back in the early 1800's, my Middle NY State branch moved here in 1965... Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Elmer Thorn <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:48 PM Subject: Willie Thorn > Someone on the list was looking for a Willie Thorn to www.Ancestry.com and type in Willie THorn and Wilmoth Thorn. I found a family from N.C. with these sons. Don't know if it's your Willie or not. ET > >

Someone on the list was looking for a Willie Thorn to www.Ancestry.com and type in Willie THorn and Wilmoth Thorn. I found a family from N.C. with these sons. Don't know if it's your Willie or not. ET

Jay, I have done that and everything matches except two females under 10 in the 1810 Prince William Co census. That could be two daughters that may have died or two daughters I never found who they married. One of the females showed up in the 1820 Jackson Co Ohio census that I couldn't account for. So actually only 1 female off. Sometimes they took in orphanes etc. so it's really hard to pipoint without names. Thanks for the suggestion. Et ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.M. (Jay) Ingalls" <jay_ingalls@pipeline.com> To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Thorns in Virginia > Elmer, > > Put your census data for all years that apply on a multiyear census > form. Record the birth years for all family members. See if the family > birth years and sexes match in multiple years. > > Please let me know if you find an Arthur Thorne born PA about 1897, > living in West Virginia about 1934. He was in Ohio in 1935. > > Jay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> > To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 11 July, 2004 8:06 AM > Subject: Fw: Thorns in Virginia > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elmer Thorn > > To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com > > Cc: vapwilli-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 6:40 AM > > Subject: Thorns in Virginia > > > > > > I need some advice from other researchers please. > > My WIlliam Thorn b betwenn1770-1780 was born in Virginia according > to census information of his children. His first 5 children were all > listed as being born in Va bet 1800- 1816. > > Question: > > In the 1810 Federal Census there were only > > 14 William Thorn/Thorne listed in the total census index. > > 8 were in New York, 4 were in Virginia, 1 in Maine and 1 in Ky. > > There is one in Virginia which is in Prince William Co that matches > my WIlliam. Could there have been a lot more William Thorns that was > missed by the census back in 1810? Can I go by my strong assumptions > that the one in Prince WIlliam Co is +90% my WIlliam Thorn? > > > > I would like feedback from some of you that have been researching > for some time please. > > > > ______________________________ > >

Michelle, Where and what time period in Ohio. Possibly about 1935 in Akron Ohio? Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Bellinger" <michellebellinger@comcast.net> To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 11 July, 2004 5:14 PM Subject: Benjamin Thorn NY to Illinois to Calif > Hello, > I am looking for information on the Thorns that came to California, > > Benjamin Kent Thorn was born in New York to Elizabeth "Betsy" (nee Platt) > Thorn and Platt Thorn > born in Plattsburgh, Clinton, NY > > Platts parents were: William Thorn and Susannah Mitchell > > Platt Thorn moved his family to Illinois, where he was a farmer and had > three children: > Benjamin Kent > Abbott Goddard > and Mary A > > Abbott and mary were both born in Illinois.Ben was born in NY. > > Elizabeth Thorn died 1890 age 84 > Platt died in Illinois in 1859 > > After Platts death Elizabeth came with the two younger children to > California and lived for awhile with her son Ben. > She then went to Napa, Calif. > Ben was the sheriff of San Andreas, CA and the house he built in 1861 is > still standing.He married Annie Meeks and had two children. > > I have some pictures of Ben and also some unidentified pictures of people > taken in Ohio who may also be Thorns. > If anyone is intrested in this family I would love to share with you. I have > scanned all the pictures. > > Thanks, > Michelle > > ______________________________

Elmer, Put your census data for all years that apply on a multiyear census form. Record the birth years for all family members. See if the family birth years and sexes match in multiple years. Please let me know if you find an Arthur Thorne born PA about 1897, living in West Virginia about 1934. He was in Ohio in 1935. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 11 July, 2004 8:06 AM Subject: Fw: Thorns in Virginia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elmer Thorn > To: THORN-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: vapwilli-L-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 6:40 AM > Subject: Thorns in Virginia > > > I need some advice from other researchers please. > My WIlliam Thorn b betwenn1770-1780 was born in Virginia according to census information of his children. His first 5 children were all listed as being born in Va bet 1800- 1816. > Question: > In the 1810 Federal Census there were only > 14 William Thorn/Thorne listed in the total census index. > 8 were in New York, 4 were in Virginia, 1 in Maine and 1 in Ky. > There is one in Virginia which is in Prince William Co that matches my WIlliam. Could there have been a lot more William Thorns that was missed by the census back in 1810? Can I go by my strong assumptions that the one in Prince WIlliam Co is +90% my WIlliam Thorn? > > I would like feedback from some of you that have been researching for some time please. > > ______________________________

Hi Michelle, I believe that Ben Thorn was the sherrif who caught Black Bart. Do you know when Ben came to Calif. ? My Thorns, Col. Thomas and family came in 1849. I am wondering if they were on the same wagon train? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Bellinger" <michellebellinger@comcast.net> To: <THORN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:14 PM Subject: Benjamin Thorn NY to Illinois to Calif > Hello, > I am looking for information on the Thorns that came to California, > > Benjamin Kent Thorn was born in New York to Elizabeth "Betsy" (nee Platt) > Thorn and Platt Thorn > born in Plattsburgh, Clinton, NY > > Platts parents were: William Thorn and Susannah Mitchell > > Platt Thorn moved his family to Illinois, where he was a farmer and had > three children: > Benjamin Kent > Abbott Goddard > and Mary A > > Abbott and mary were both born in Illinois.Ben was born in NY. > > Elizabeth Thorn died 1890 age 84 > Platt died in Illinois in 1859 > > After Platts death Elizabeth came with the two younger children to > California and lived for awhile with her son Ben. > She then went to Napa, Calif. > Ben was the sheriff of San Andreas, CA and the house he built in 1861 is > still standing.He married Annie Meeks and had two children. > > I have some pictures of Ben and also some unidentified pictures of people > taken in Ohio who may also be Thorns. > If anyone is intrested in this family I would love to share with you. I have > scanned all the pictures. > > Thanks, > Michelle > > >