I've been up all night doing the same thing all over the net. Over the last week or so, I researched hundreds of Nathaniel Smiths, and their derivatives. I've been on ancestry for the quickie freebie but did not find anything useful. You know me, never one for half measures...I have found only one reference on ancestry that provides enough info to make an intelligent inference from what's there: Corporal Nathaniel Smith: Res.: Branford, CT; Humphrey's Company; Enlisted May 26, 1777; Term: War; Died Dec. 07, 1777. There are four other Nathaniel Thompsons but they must fit a certain set of criterial to me relevant. The above has been the only one so far...and I am still not convinced. There are quite a few Privates, and one Captain...but the kicker is they must be married to Lucy Lynde. There are a few on "FootNotes" with Lucy noted, but not much more. The stupid ancestry lists, are just that, useless lists of names, with no other details to place them somewhere in time or place and related to whom. One question: was Nathaniel Smith a victim of the Rev. War, between 1772-1786? If so, where, and where would he be buried? I'd like to share this puzzle with you. Being an obsessive, I am bogged down. I can't get this Smith business clarified, I'm, stuck on this stage. If you have access to worthwhile services, for which I am unable to belong to, I am looking for a Nathaniel Smith, and his wife Lucy Smith [wd]. first of Leicester, then of Brimfield, MA and lastly of Guilford/Brattleborough, VT [1772 Census for Guilford, VT]. Now this is not as easy as it seems. 1. [[7xgm] Lucy [bc May 27, 1741] is really Lucy Lynde, d/o Samuel Lynde and Lucy Lamb of Leicester/Framington, MA [md. Oct 09, 1740] 2. she marries [7xgf] Nathaniel Smith of Leicester, MA...[bc Sep 16, 1738; md Aug 14, 1762] s/o James Smith and Dorcas Richardson [Leicester, MA] 3. they had five children, somewhere!!!! [1772 Census for Guilford, VT] 4. one of which is "my" [4xgm] Polly Smith, the other four are unfound as of yet 5. she married [4xgf] Solomon Thompson in Brimfield, MA [bc Nov 23, 1760; md Jul 13, 1786] 6. BUT!... [7xgf] Nathaniel Smith and [7xgm] Lucy Lynde disappear from Leicester, MA, and turn up in the 1771/2 Census for Guilford, VT/NY 7. this is a tumultuous time when VT, MA, NH and NY are fighting over who is going to get that part of the wilderness as part of their state...so we have a conflict between two groups, the Yorkers and the Sufferers 8. the Smiths are in the middle of it 9. each side trying to outdo the other in records destruction...for eight years!!! 10. Polly was born c 1764, so she would have been about seven-eight years old at the time of the census 11. Polly marries Solomon back in Brimfield, in July 13, 1786, 14 years after the census and at the ae 22 years 12. where were Polly and her family during those "lost years" 1772-1786 13. now, how is it that Polly is back in Brimfield...what has happened in the space of those 12 years??? 14. we also find a Lucy Smith, [wd] marrying a Thomas Ellinwood, back in Brimfield, Jun 03, 1784...just two years before her daughter...SAME TOWN, SAME CHURCH... 15. I can find nothing to identify this Lucy Smith [wd] as the original Lucy Lynde that md Nathaniel Smith, so I must assume until then, that she is the one I am looking for 16. Lucy Smith [ae 43] md Thomas Ellinwood [bc Aug 01, 1728/mdc Jun 03, 1784; ae 56], and is his third wife 17. guess who his second wife was...and who just so happens to have connections back to the Thompsons, MARY THOMPSON, Solomon's aunt!!! 18. so Lucy is now, Solomon's aunt and his wife's mother! ...if my assumptions have merit... one big happy family 19. but what happened to Nathaniel, Polly's father, and Lucy's husband? ...his death cannot be found anywhere... 20. and since Polly and her mother are living in or near Brimfield, the other children must have been there as well...some probably already married, more than likely they are all married, but to whom? 21. assuming the children were ...using the LDS figures... .....born........ 1762/3, 1764/5 [Polly], 1766/7, 1768/9, 1770/1 females md....1782/3, 1784/5>1786], 1786/7, 1788/9, 1790/1 males md.......1786/7, 1788/9..........., 1790/1, 1792/3, 1794/5 22. are there children? fitting this year sequence? md, whose parents are Nathaniel Smith and Lucy {Lynde} Smith? Bottom line, I'd like to find the children, etc.. If you care to assist, and need more information, please ask... Kindest regards, Al Dempster, B.A., M.Ed. -- Al ...: Genealogist... B.A., M.Ed., (U.E., S.A.R. pending), L.O.L... [rtd] VTWINDHA@rootsweb.com THOMPSON@rootsweb.com SMITH-CAN-ONT@rootsweb.com smith@rootsweb.com NY-WESTERN@rootsweb.com nygreene@rootsweb.com ELLENWOOD@rootsweb.com LYNDE@rootsweb.com NY-CEMETERIES@rootsweb.com NYCHAUTA@rootsweb.com nychenan@rootsweb.com nycochenan@usgennet.org Only the expression of an idea is subject to copyright...and only the copying of a significant part of the "expression" of that idea, is subject to Copyright Law. The idea itself, information, and facts cannot themselves be protected by copyright. Researching Surnames: Claydon-Cambridge, Eng.; Ont., Can.--Damude-Ont, Can. Dempster-Scotland--------------------Fraser-Nairn, Scotland Gisso-Ontario Can.-------------------Hainer-Ont., Can.; Mich. US Hancock-Mass, US---------------------Hill-Ontario Can. Hitchock-Mass, US--------------------Huycke-Ont., Can. Lynde-Mass. US-----------------------Moore-NJ'r'y, US; Ont. Can. Smith-Ont., Can.---------------------Swan-Nairn, Scotland; Ont.,Can. Thompson-Mass., US; Ont., Can.-------Upper-NJ'r'y, US; Ont., Ca. Waters/Walters, PEC-Ont.-------------Whitmore-Mass. US Wilson-Ont., Can.--------------------Woodworth-Camb., Eng. Young-Germany; Ont., Can.------------Zimmerman-Germany; Ont., Can. ...and all names associated with those lines. eFAX ME: 1 (267) 285-5306 [use the numeral 1 only if from outside NA. The LARGE PRINT giveth, and the small print, taketh away! Part o' the 23d Psalm "Surely guidness an' mercy, despite a' my roamin' Wull gang wi' me doon tae the brink o' the river. Ayont it nae mair o' the eerie an' gloamin' I wull bide in the Hame o' my Faither for ever." GOD DOES NOT LIVE "OUT THERE" HE/SHE LIVES "IN HERE"