Yep! "cskirvin" <[email protected]> wrote: Looking for information on my great-grandfather William Bailor Thomas. b. in Tenn. around 1855. Married Lois Savannah Koger in Jamestown, Tenn. on March 26, 1874. Died Oct. 5, 1929 in Monticello, Wayne County, Ky. On a quest to find out who my paternal great-great grandparents were. When my father passed away in 1992 he was working on this. I've decided to pick upwhere he left off. --- Now, to HeritageQuest censuses, access is free through your local US library: I sorted for white male thomas (since evan didn't pop right up) age about 40s in 1860, 50s in 1870, born TN, in KY since the 1880 has them there for a while per childrens' births: 1860 Kentucky > CLINTON > ALBANY P O Series: M653 Roll: 363 Page: 299 Evin THOMAS 45 laborer TN Julia Ann 28 housework KY William B 7 TN Lewis L 6, Maranda A 3, M Marian 1 (male), all b KY 1870 didn't bring one up, so I sorted for Thomas households in Clinton County KY (on 1880 census the child Manervy age 10 was born KY) - none. They should still be in KY or maybe on the move. So ... back to white male thomas age 50s, no birth state selected-for. 91 in all counties, o dear! I'll let you find out how to get access to HeritageQuest and go through those yerself! Oh hey, look, 3 Evan Thomases in 1850 TN, at ancestry.com. I wonder which is about age 35? And is his papa close by ... I can't help it, I'm addicted. Well, didn't see him in KY, but one of those Evans was age 60 and born VA. Kaye in Texas (someone else already found this - you've got cousins!) http://tinyurl.com/u4ix __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Do we have anyone on our list who is a documented descendent of the Evan Thomas that I mention below? Well, I'm adicted, too....when you start talking about Evan Thomas's, you get my attention. My Brick wall on my Thomas line is Sarah Thomas who marries George McKinsey--probably in SC some time before 1781. I have tried over and over to prove that she is descended from the Evan Thomas who is born circa 1691 who we see moving to Hopewell Monthly meeting with his family [and with Alexander Ross and others (including a Nathaniel Thomas)] in Frederick County, Virginia about 1730. I do not have a proven relationship with this man....so my research is not as extensive as someone who actually knows for sure that they descend....but just in my data base I find a son named Evan Thomas and a grandson named Evan Thomas. And there is no doubt that the family spread down into the south in the next generations as the ones that I have are in SC...Some of the line remained in SC....some moved north to Ohio and Indiana with the mass migration of the Quakers out of the south in the first decade of the 1800's. OK remember that these are my theories....do not take them for gospel. And it seem to me that the big problem is that the records burned in Hopewell about the time we should have records for these people. But certainly I suspect that the Evan Thomases below may have had a (?gr)-grandfather named Evan. And the born in Virginia only supports my hypothesis. Marsha in WV > > Oh hey, look, 3 Evan Thomases in 1850 TN, at ancestry.com. I wonder which is > about age 35? And is his papa close by ... I can't help it, I'm addicted. Well, > didn't see him in KY, but one of those Evans was age 60 and born VA. > > Kaye in Texas >
I am descended from the THOMAS family in Frederick VA, whom I believe is the same as the Evan THOMAS family everyone is talking about. I can share the following two excerpts on the family of Evan THOMAS, in hopes someone might make a connection (and perhaps help me make a connection!). Please copy all replies to the list, the more we share the more we know: 1. Historical Records of Old Frederick and Hampshire Counties, Virginia (Revised)" by Wilmer L. Kerns, Ph.D. p. 357 "Evan THOMAS was born in Wales circa 1685 and died in Frederick County, Va. on 'the 4th day of the second month 1755, aged about seventy years.' * Born into the Church of England, Evan later became a Quaker convert and minister. His former house still stands along US Route 11 just north of Winchester Va." The quote is appparently footnoted, but I only have a few pages of the book and no footnotes unfortunately. 2. Evan's relationship to Lewis THOMAS (my ancestor) is pure speculation based on the following facts from "Pioneers of Old Frederick Co. VA" by Cecil O'Dell, but the facts in this book are very well documented and detailed on the early Evan THOMAS family and their land records, and may help someone. There is a bit of info about the John Smith and John Hardin lines intermixed as they marry into my Lewis THOMAS family, but keep reading for the THOMAS details: 1. John Hardin is first recorded in Orange Co. VA on 11-22-1740 when he purchases 380 acres of land from Nathaniel THOMAS. John Hardin and Nathaniel THOMAS share tract 55, Map no. 7 (Winchester area to Opechon Creek). 2. John above executed the carpentry and joyner's work on the 12 foot square log Court House for Frederick County. 3. He sold this land, bought another tract, sold it to Thomas Ashby, then bought 285 acres of William Vestal's patent land in partnership with George Johnston who also had land dealings with Lewis THOMAS. 4. John Hardin and wife Catherine sold this land and moved to Hampshire Co VA by 5-7-1765. By 1773 he has moved to Bedford Co. PA (40 miles north) where he received his Fairfax grant for 100 acres on Patterson Creek. His son John Hardin Jr. received a Fairfax grant also surveyed for Mark Hardin. By virtue of 1 through 5 above, I place this John Hardin as husband of Catherine Marr, and father of Mary Hardin who marries Owen THOMAS, son of Lewis THOMAS. In this history there are also many references to William Penn and the Quaker beginnings of PA, Goshen Twp., Chester Co PA and Hopewell Meeting House in Frederick VA. This is relayed as background for the following. 6. John Smith of Cecil County Maryland and wife Jane, with daughter Jane Jr.(?) were witnesses at a wedding on the 11th of Dec. 1735 at their public meeting at Hopewell in Orange Co VA. John and Jane were both Quakers and are mentioned in the Chester Monthly Meeting Minutes. John Smith after selling his land in Cecil Co MD buys land in the Opequon Creek area and lives near John Hardin on Tract 11 Map 4. 7. John Smith Jr inherits this land from his father, and sells it to an Edward THOMAS. John Smith and Edward have several land transactions between them. Edward THOMAS and wife Sarah sell this land in addition to their own Fairfax grant and move eventually to S. Carolina. 8. Evan THOMAS was born in Wales c. 1685 and came to Philadelphia Co. PA abt. 1719. He and his wife Catherine moved to Goshen Monthly Meeting in Chester Co. PA. abt. 1724. Sometime before 10-18-1734 and after 1726, Evan moves to VA to the Frederick Co. land which John Hardin and John Smith are living on on 1040 acres on west side of Opechon. On 12 Nov 1735 he receives a patent from the Colony for 1014 acres (Tract 63 Map 4). This land is located in Frederick Co VA on Turkey Run (a branch of Opequon Creek). 9. Evan THOMAS dies by 4-1-1755 when his will is proved. He lists sons Evan Jr., John, Thomas and Enos, and daughter Martha. Evan is known to have other children not listed in the will, a daughter Mary for certain who marries John Hiatt Jr. 10. This Enos THOMAS is the Enos who marries Rachel. He inherits a portion of his father's land in Frederick. He and wife Rachel have children Catherine, Evan, and Phebe. He dies on 23 March 1763. 11. John THOMAS, son of Evan also inherits a portion of the land. His wife is named Else. They sell their land and move to North Carolina. 12. Lewis THOMAS is first mentioned in the records on 23 April 1734. He is living in Orange County. He purchases land from Josh Hite (Tract 90 Map 4). Lewis then sells the land to George Johnston (see John Hardin above also deals with George Johnston) who then sells it to Geo. Washington. This land is on the North Fork (Tract 90B) 13. Lewis THOMAS mortgages horses and cattle to John Smith on Aug 4 1746. 14. On 8 Jan 1752, an Owen THOMAS listed as son of Lewis THOMAS receives a Fairfax grant for 400 acres adjacent Capt. George Johnston and Benjamin Grub, surveryed by Mr. George Washington. This land is adjacent west of Tract 76 Map 3, and adjacent south of Lewis THOMAS Tract 90A Map 4. Owen and Mary have sold all of their land by 7 Aug. 1771. 15. An Owen THOMAS is described as deceased in Orange Co. NC by April 1769 with wife Mary and six small children. Listed children: Hester, Joana, Lewis, Jonathon, John, Elizabeth and older sons William, James, George and Mikle, older daughters Mary Hood and Ann Wicks. Connection is not made to previous Owen, unknown. 16. On 24 Oct 1735 Isaac THOMAS had 200 acres surveyed and received a Fairfax grant on 9 May 1752. This land is located on Back Creek at the mouth of Isaac's Creek, which was named for THOMAS (Tract 196, Map 5) Isaac was in Orange Co VA by 10-19-1736 when he was paid by the Court for one wolf head, certified by Josh Hite. 17. Nathaniel THOMAS b. c. 1710 received a patent for 380 acre tract from the Colony on 12 Nov. 1735. This land was located on Redbud Run a branch of the Opequon Creek. (Tract 55, Map 7). On 22 Nov 1755 Nathaniel sells this land to John Hardin for 42 pounds. He moves to another tract of 850 acres, Tract 147A Map 8. This land is near the head of the Opequon Creek on Frederick Co. Highway 622 present day near Winchester VA. He also buys land from Josh Hite and receives Fairfax grants. He is deceased by March 1 1763 when his will is proved in Frederick court. He lists as sons Isaac and Jonathon, daughters Catherine Emrey, Rachel, Elizabeth and Mary THOMAS. Candy Wagner Thomas, Hardin, Cain, Witten, Cecil, Stuteville, Clements, Boarman, Nave -----Original Message----- From: Marsha H. Moses [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [THOMAS] William, son of Evan THOMAS Do we have anyone on our list who is a documented descendent of the Evan Thomas that I mention below? Well, I'm adicted, too....when you start talking about Evan Thomas's, you get my attention. My Brick wall on my Thomas line is Sarah Thomas who marries George McKinsey--probably in SC some time before 1781. I have tried over and over to prove that she is descended from the Evan Thomas who is born circa 1691 who we see moving to Hopewell Monthly meeting with his family [and with Alexander Ross and others (including a Nathaniel Thomas)] in Frederick County, Virginia about 1730. I do not have a proven relationship with this man....so my research is not as extensive as someone who actually knows for sure that they descend....but just in my data base I find a son named Evan Thomas and a grandson named Evan Thomas. And there is no doubt that the family spread down into the south in the next generations as the ones that I have are in SC...Some of the line remained in SC....some moved north to Ohio and Indiana with the mass migration of the Quakers out of the south in the first decade of the 1800's. OK remember that these are my theories....do not take them for gospel. And it seem to me that the big problem is that the records burned in Hopewell about the time we should have records for these people. But certainly I suspect that the Evan Thomases below may have had a (?gr)-grandfather named Evan. And the born in Virginia only supports my hypothesis. Marsha in WV > > Oh hey, look, 3 Evan Thomases in 1850 TN, at ancestry.com. I wonder which is > about age 35? And is his papa close by ... I can't help it, I'm addicted. Well, > didn't see him in KY, but one of those Evans was age 60 and born VA. > > Kaye in Texas > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html