Hi Judy, I can't say for sure one way or another if your Henry Thomas could be related to my line or not. I wonder who all his brother's and sister's were? His parents? Uncles and Aunts? Cousins? I am stuck on my Jacob Thomas who died in 1804 in Blount Co, TN and most likely was born in PA. I do not know who his siblings or his parents were, nor really confirmed his birth in PA. He had sons, George, John, Henry, who I don't even have birthdates or birth order on. He had a son Adam b. 1770, Jacob b.c 1780 and a daughter Margaret born c 1762-3. Margaret was the name of his wife and I do not know her maiden name. This was from Will of 1804, his Inventory of his Estate filed in 1804 and information from court records and deeds in Blount Co., TN. Blount Co., TN was formed from Knox Co., TN in 1795. If any of the family stayed in VA area before this time I am not sure. They could have. I would like to find more on Jacob's sons, John, Henry and George but I don't know what happened to them. They sort of disappear from Blount Co., TN and who knows which direction they went. We have had leads, but can't prove up or discount if some of the George's, Henry's or a John could be the missing sons. A Henry Thomas we think was in Blount Co. for a number of years and then left with his family for Ohio. Not sure if this could be a brother to old Jacob or not. We don't think it is his son because his age didn't quite jive. This DNA testing might rule this in or out if there is match on some of the Thomas lines that are still looking for parents. Or even prove up that the connection they have guessed on is not correct. I hope you can persuade your brother to participate in the DNA swab. It might give us an idea if we do have any relationships to your line. Bonnie is checking on all of this. It sounds like the price may be around $170. But she will let us know. If others from your line would help pitch in on the costs it would help. I know that is what I will be offering to do so that one person doesn't have to pay for the whole thing themselves. It costs a lot to research and I don't think some realize this cost. But I think this could help us connect and confirm some of the research we have already done and maybe save us some research costs in the end. At least I hope it can! Barb http://www.geocities.com/blynnfitzz/KinshipofJThomas1.html http://www.geocities.com/blynnfitzz/index.html and http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=barbfitz&id=I0783 -----Original Message----- From: Judy Snowden [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:08 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [THOMAS] DNA Project Hello all, I caught your discussion about a Thomas DNA project. I have a brother living in Seattle, a direct descendant of a Thomas line. We go back to Henry Thomas b. ca 1736 in VA, his son Walker Thomas b. ca 1770 in VA. I understand Henry's son John Thomas moved to Iredell Co. NC and his many children spread out to Kentucky and on westward. Also, wouldn't be surprised if some ended up in Tennessee. I just haven't followed that lilne, as it isn't directly mine, but there is alot of info on it. Just wondering if any of you Tennesse-Thomas descendants think it might tie into this Henry Thomas line and how much it cost to be one of the participants. I think my brother would do it if I asked and it isn't too much money. It is a very interesting idea. Judy (Thomas)Snowden [email protected] >From: "Barbara Fitzmaurice" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [THOMAS] DNA Project >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:51:04 -0400 > >I think this is a good idea but I have question. Or rather want to confirm >what I think. > >The males that are tested have to be from the paternal side and the direct >male descendant? Father, son, grandson, gr-grandson, gr-gr-grandson? A >direct line of male descendants? And someone mentioned that this could go >on >to maybe 30 generations down the line? > >I am going to have to dig up some male cousins that will do this, since my >brother has already passed away. My sons wouldn't fit the criteria. Has to >be direct male descendants if I have this right. I think I can find someone >to pitch in here. > >Can someone find out what the costs would be assuming we have over 9 >volunteers so we can get that better rate? > >It would also be good to have someone head up the project that has the time >and understands how it works. Some have been through this with their other >branches like Bruce for the Barretts so he may know a little more and give >us a hand? > >Barb (Thomas) Fitzmaurice >Michigan >Jacob Thomas line - died 1804 Maryville, Blount Co., TN > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bruce P Barrett [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:50 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [THOMAS] DNA Project > > >Hi, >You can see the Barrett Surname Project by going to >http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project2.htm > >Bruce P. Barrett >[email protected] >Heath, OH USA > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bonnie Thomas Chaffin" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:30 PM >Subject: Re: [THOMAS] DNA Project > > > > Hi Virginia, > > > > My (Bonnie) name comes from my mother who is also a Bonnie. She is >Bonnie > > Kate, named for Bonny Kate, wife of the first Governor of Tennessee ( >John > > Sevier). > > > > The best place to look for information is on the www.familytreedna.com > > website. The test requires a male as it is a Y-chromosome test. The > > Y-chrom. is passed from father to son to son, etc. without any mutation > > within about 30 generations (I think). Therefore, in our case, it will >be >a > > THOMAS male as the line cannot be broken. > > > > It is not a complete DNA test. From what I understand, only those >markers > > that show the genealogical ties? FamilyTreeDNA posts the results on >their > > site, but only by number. Unless we share those results with each >other, > > the names are not known. > > > > My DRAKE family had a separate site where only those names were posted. > > They were identified by the progenitor of that line, based on the > > researchers work. We were able to connect several lines, not previously > > known to relate. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Virginia A." <[email protected]> > > To: "Bonnie Thomas Chaffin" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [THOMAS] DNA Project > > > > > > > Hello Bonnie, > > > > > > What happens to the DNA results after this is done? Do you know why >it > > can > > > only be a male? I am going to try to work on one of my brothers and >see >if > > > he will do it for me. I don't know if he will or not. > > > > > > Just a side note: My mother wanted to name me Bonnie. My father's >middle > > > name was Bonnell. He hated it so I got named Virginia instead. > > > > > > Virginia (Thomas) in Seattle > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bonnie Thomas Chaffin" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:44 AM > > > Subject: [THOMAS] DNA Project > > > > > > > > > > Has there been any discussion on the THOMAS list of participating in >the > > > DNA > > > > project? I would be happy to volunteer a brother. > > > > > > > > This might help link some of these groups... particularly the three >East > > > > Tennessee clans which might possibly have a common ancestor. > > > > > > > > Bonnie Thomas Chaffin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > > > > THOMAS Family Mail List Archives: > > > > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! > > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > Just type in the mail list's name: THOMAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > > Need list assistance? Please contact: > > [email protected] > > List Adm for THOMAS-L and THOMAS-D > > > > > > >==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > Need list assistance? 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