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I was wondering if there is anyone from the Portland area. I have some Thomas family that is from that area that I would like to find. Heather Francis www.mommasfamily.blogspot.com --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
Hello Linda---------Yes I am the same James Clark you sent me the file on. I thank you for it----I am just still trying to locate Sims and Matilda Sullivan Thomas and children after 1850------ clarkappliance@bellsouth.net -------------James E. Clark ========================================================================= -------------- Original message from Linda Mardis <mardisfamily@peoplepc.com>: -------------- > Wiley Thomas and Rebecca Humphries families can be found in Blount and Etowah > Co, AL. > > Rebecca Humphries Thomas married a Crump in her older days and you can find info > related > to this in The Heritage of Blount County Alabama Vol. 5 > I have been in touch with two different Thomas' from this line. > If you are interested in their addresses...send me an email. > > Are you the same James' that I sent a copy of Rebecca Humphries Thomas estate > settlement? > > ...Linda > > >From: clarkappliance@bellsouth.net > >Sent: Apr 1, 2008 10:19 AM > >To: thomas@rootsweb.com, SULLIVAN-L@rootsweb.com, sullivant@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [THOMAS] THOMAS---SULLIVAN > > > >Blount, Calhoun, Marshall counties, Alabama. The SULLIVANS lived. On 21 > November 1836 SIMS [spelled several different ways] THOMAS married MATILDA > SULLIVAN. Sims b/abt1815 SC and Matilda b/abt1819 SC > > > >Matilda parents were Joel and Deliah John Sullivan > >Sims parents though to be Wiley Thomas and Rebecca Humphries. > > > >1850 census Sims and Matilda was in Marshall Co, Ala > >Sims was listed as deaf and dumb > >They had these children::: > >1. Delila E. b/ abt 1839 Al > >2. Jessty G. b/ abt 1841 Al [sp] > >3. Mary Ann C. b/ abt1846 Al > >4. Jane Ann b/ abt1846 > >5. Elizabeth b/ abt 1850 Al > > > >Can anyone help with this family? What happened to them after the 1850 census? > > > >I thank you for your help--------------James > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message
I have not posted in a long time so I thought I would send out the following to see if this matches up with any distant cousins....Gary Decker Lewis E Thomas Family First Generation 1. Lewis E1 Thomas was born October 1845. He{XE "Thomas:Lewis E (1845-dec.)"} married Elizabeth B{XE "B:Elizabeth (1845-dec.)"}. Elizabeth{XE "B:Elizabeth (1845-dec.)"} was born June 1845. 1870 US Census, Lewis Thomas (24), wife Elizabeth P (25), her mother Elizabeth (57), her sister Ann J. (16) were living in Pedler Twp, Amherst County, Va. 1880 US Census, Lewis E Thomas (35), wife Elizabeth (35), dauthers Anna Belle (9), Mary H (7) and Ida E (5), along with sons Nathan R (2) and Walter L (3M) were living in Charlemont, Bedford County, VA. From 1887 to 1890 he was a member of Low Moor Lodge No. 166 Clifton Forge, Alleghany County, Va. Masonic Lodge. From 1890 to 1901 he was a member of Bethel Lodge No. 71 Lynchburg, Va. Masonic Lodge. From 1895 to 1903 he was a member of John Ancell Lodge No. 255 in Nelson County, Va. Masonic Lodge. 1900 US Census, L. E. Thomas (54), wife Elizabeth B (55), daughters Rosa (17) and Gertrude (12) and son Charles (15) were living in Lynchburg, Va. 1910 US Census, Lewis E Thomas (65), wife Elizabeth B. (65) their daughter Ida E (30), grandsons Cary E (9) and Rudell E (5) and granddaughter Bertha E (16/24) were living in Lynchburg City, Va. 1920 US Census, Lewis E (75) and Sallie (76) were living with their daughter Gertrude M (30), her husband James M Parrish (32), sons James M (9) and Burke (6) and daughters Natalie (9) and Elizabeth M (2 5/12). Lewis E Thomas{XE "Thomas:Lewis E (1845-dec.)"} and Elizabeth B{XE "B:Elizabeth (1845-dec.)"} had the following children: 2 i. Louis2 Thomas{XE "Thomas:Louis ( - )"}. 3 ii. Harry Thomas{XE "Thomas:Harry ( - )"}. 4 iii. Anna Belle Thomas{XE "Thomas:Anna Belle (APP 1872- )"} was born in Lynchburg, Virginia Approx. 1872. She{XE "Thomas:Anna Belle (APP 1872- )"} married Henry Percival Watts{XE "Watts:Henry Percival (APP 1866- )"} July 17, 1894. Henry{XE "Watts:Henry Percival (APP 1866- )"} was born in London, England Approx. 1866. Henry was the son of James Watts{XE "Watts:James ( - )"} and Elizabeth{XE ":Elizabeth ( - )"}. 5 iv. Mary H. Thomas{XE "Thomas:Mary H. (APP 1873- )"} was born Approx. 1873. + 6 v. Ida Elizabeth Thomas{XE "Thomas:Ida Elizabeth (APP 1876- )"} was born Approx. 1876. 7 vi. Nathan R. Thomas{XE "Thomas:Nathan R. (APP 1878- )"} was born Approx. 1878. 8 vii. Walter L. Thomas{XE "Thomas:Walter L. (APP 1880- )"} was born Approx. 1880. + 9 viii. Rosa Alice Thomas{XE "Thomas:Rosa Alice (1883-1963)"} was born December 25, 1883. 10 ix. Charles Thomas{XE "Thomas:Charles (1884- )"} was born December 1884. + 11 x. Gertrude May Thomas{XE "Thomas:Gertrude May (1887- )"} was born November 1887. Second Generation 6. Ida Elizabeth2 Thomas (Lewis E1) was born in Bedford County, Virginia Approx. 1876. She{XE "Thomas:Ida Elizabeth (APP 1876- )"} married Carey Hawkins{XE "Hawkins:Carey (APP 1877- )"} in Lynchburg, Virginia, June 21, 1898. Carey{XE "Hawkins:Carey (APP 1877- )"} was born in Bedford County, Virginia Approx. 1877. Carey was the son of W. E. Hawkins{XE "Hawkins:W. E. ( - )"} and Meany{XE ":Meany ( - )"}. Ida Elizabeth Thomas{XE "Thomas:Ida Elizabeth (APP 1876- )"} and Carey Hawkins{XE "Hawkins:Carey (APP 1877- )"} had the following children: 12 i. Cary E.3 Hawkins{XE "Hawkins:Cary E. (1901- )"} was born 1901. 13 ii. Rudell E. Hawkins{XE "Hawkins:Rudell E. (1905- )"} was born 1905. 14 iii. Bertha E. Hawkins{XE "Hawkins:Bertha E. (1908- )"} was born 1908. 9. Rosa Alice2 Thomas (Lewis E1) was born in Virginia December 25, 1883. Rosa{XE "Thomas:Rosa Alice (1883-1963)"} died December 18, 1963 in Fort Meyers, Florida, at 79 years of age. She{XE "Thomas:Rosa Alice (1883-1963)"} married Wilbur Edward Pierce{XE "Pierce:Wilbur Edward (1881-1962)"} in Lynchburg, Virginia, October 03, 1903. Wilbur{XE "Pierce:Wilbur Edward (1881-1962)"} was born in Huntersville, West Virginia July 03, 1881. Wilbur was the son of George Adam Pierce{XE "Pierce:George Adam (1858-dec.)"} and Clara Alice Woods{XE "Woods:Clara Alice (1858-dec.)"}. Wilbur{XE "Pierce:Wilbur Edward (1881-1962)"} died August 24, 1962 in Fort Meyers, Florida, at 81 years of age. 1910 US Cenus, Wilbur Pierce (29), wife Rosa (27), sons Frank (5) and Aubry (4) and daughter Ruth were living in Charlottesvile City, Albermarle County, Virginia. 1920 US Census, Wilbur Pierce 1930 US Census, Wilbur E. Pierce (49), Rosa A. (47), sons Harold (15) and Alfred (13) and daughters Ruth e. (21), Alice (10) and Marjorie (5) were living in Union Township, Broome County, New York. Wilbur had been employed by the American Telephone and Telegraph Co. for 43 years until he retirement in 1947. Wilbur and Rosa lived in Newark, NY from 1932 to 1954. He was a life member of the Telephone Pioneers of America and the Masonic Lodge. Wilbur, Rosa and Aubrey were all buried in Fort Myers Memorial Gardens Cemetery in Fort Myers Florida. All 3 lived at 3111 Cleveland Ave. in Fort Meyers in the early 1960s. Rosa Alice Thomas{XE "Thomas:Rosa Alice (1883-1963)"} and Wilbur Edward Pierce{XE "Pierce:Wilbur Edward (1881-1962)"} had the following children: + 15 i. Frank Edward3 Pierce{XE "Pierce:Frank Edward (1904-1975)"} was born December 03, 1904. 16 ii. Aubrey Lee Pierce{XE "Pierce:Aubrey Lee (1906-1964)"} was born in Lynchburg, Virginia April 10, 1906. Aubrey{XE "Pierce:Aubrey Lee (1906-1964)"} died August 10, 1964 in Fort Meyers, Florida, at 58 years of age. + 17 iii. Ruth Elizabeth Pierce{XE "Pierce:Ruth Elizabeth (1908-1993)"} was born March 10, 1908. 18 iv. Annabell Lee Pierce{XE "Pierce:Annabell Lee ( -dec.)"}. + 19 v. Harold Austin Pierce{XE "Pierce:Harold Austin (1915-1959)"} was born February 23, 1915. + 20 vi. Albert Roy Pierce{XE "Pierce:Albert Roy (1917- )"} was born January 03, 1917. + 21 vii. Alice Virginia Pierce{XE "Pierce:Alice Virginia (1920-2002)"} was born March 09, 1920. + 22 viii. Marjory Frances Pierce{XE "Pierce:Marjory Frances ( -dec.)"} was born August 31. 11. Gertrude May2 Thomas (Lewis E1) was born in Lynchburg, Virginia November 1887. She{XE "Thomas:Gertrude May (1887- )"} married James Manson Parrish{XE "Parrish:James Manson (1878- )"} in Lynchburg, Virginia, December 25, 1907. James{XE "Parrish:James Manson (1878- )"} was born in Appomatix, Virginia 1878. James was the son of Thomas H. Paris{XE "Paris:Thomas H. ( - )"} and L. J.{XE "J.:L. ( - )"}. Gertrude May Thomas{XE "Thomas:Gertrude May (1887- )"} and James Manson Parrish{XE "Parrish:James Manson (1878- )"} had the following children: 23 i. Natalie3 Parrish{XE "Parrish:Natalie (1911- )"} was born in Virginia 1911. 24 ii. James M. Parrish{XE "Parrish:James M. (1911- )"} was born in Virginia 1911. 25 iii. Burke E. Parrish{XE "Parrish:Burke E. (1914- )"} was born in Virginia 1914. 26 iv. Elizabeth M. Parrish{XE "Parrish:Elizabeth M. (1918- )"} was born in Virginia 1918.
I enjoyed your post, even though I don't think we share Thomases. Mine (George W. THOMAS, b. CT, 1843) went from CT to IL to MI to IA. But thank heaven, other ancestors were on the west coast by the 1850's. And now I'm one mile from the Pacific in WA - Florence, OR is lovely. Kathleen Van Heuit Nahcotta, WA On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Harry and Bonnie wrote: > I just read your Thomas info. below, and have an idea why people > made the > moves you mentioned. You asked for a "general" idea, and that is > all that I > am offering. I haven't opened your suggested Wikipedia, "Year W/O > a Summer" > yet; however, Lewis and Clark's Expedition really opened up the > Westward > Movement. I think that was about 1804, not too long before the VA > to OH to > IN migrations that you mentioned. Many pioneers just wanted to see > if "the > grass was greener on the other side," and get some of that new land > for > themselves. Now that they had some idea what to expect, for many > different > reasons, they followed that dream to move West. Once someone that > they knew > had gone to OH, it was easier for them to follow,...and the same > thing for > moving on to IN. Remember, too, that there was safety in numbers, > so they > often moved with several neighbors in their group. > > Hey! Not too many years later, my ancestors came to the REAL West > on the OR > Trail! So, here I am, in Florence, OR, on the central OR coastline! > > Don't forget the belief in Eminent Domain. I suppose that also fed > into > their thinking. > > Sincerely, > > Bonnie Schmoll (My Great-Grandmother was a Thomas, who lived in > Fairfield, > Freestone Co., TX.) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Thomas" <tsquizzled@msn.com> > To: <thomas@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [THOMAS] A DNA story > > > Jan, > I descend from Velma's line through another son of Aaron Thomas. I > doubt > they were Mennonites. Aaron's grandfather Rees Thomas was a Baptist > after > arriving in Virginia from Pennsylvania in the 1740s and Aaron's > grandson > B.F. Thomas was a Methodist preacher in Fairfield Co., Ohio. > > Another grandson of Aaron Thomas (Zera C. Thomas - my gg > grandfather) moved > to Noble Co., IN in the 1860s. > > My DNA results have best matched people with the surname of > Walters; though > at 35 markers we are a distance of 2. I have tested 67 markers and > like Rory > I am feeling a little lonely with no matches named Thomas. > Ancestry.com > shows thousands of Thomas families in England and Wales in 1891, so > I am > sure there are some of my line over there somewhere. > > I have wondered why so many people moved from Rockingham Co., VA to > Perry > Co., OH in the early 1800s (other than 1816 - the year without a > summer; see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer) and then why > some later > moved to Indiana. Do you have any recommended sources for me to > understand > the context of these migrations generally? > > Thanks. > Tom Thomas > > > >> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:53:39 -0600> From: textique@aol.com> To: >> thomas@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [THOMAS] A DNA story> > Yes, >> They moved >> to Miami Co., OH and then to surrounding Co.s; > Montgomery and >> Darke. >> Your Thomas' seem to have followed the Mennonites > from VA to OH. >> Pretty >> much the same time and approx. the same counties, > although they >> spread >> across OH following Zane's Trace (sort of the same > route as I-70 >> today). >> That is a basic explanation of a complicated > move. A few of my >> husband's >> Thomas family members from the Rocky Mount > area were Brethren.> >> > Jan >> Thomas> > Vrgfdonna@aol.com wrote:> > Jan, do you know what county >> they >> went to in Oh.? My THOMAS family went to > > Fairfield & Perry >> Counties in >> about 1811 from Rockingham Co., Va., which is > > not really very >> far from >> Bedford Co., especially when you consider county > > changes. I >> don't know >> of a John related to mine, but there may have been one.> > My >> line:> > >> Rees THOMAS 1690 Wales> > Evan THOMAS 1743 Va.> > Aaron THOMAS >> 1772 Va.> > >> David THOMAS ca 1807 Rockingham Co., Va.> > Martha THOMAS 1836 >> Perry Co., >> Oh.> > Thanks,> > Velma> > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2008 >> 11:16:56 >> AM Central Daylight Time, > > textique@aol.com writes:> >> > I can >> trace >> my husband's Thomas family to John and Polley (Mary) Thomas > > of >> Bedford >> Co., VA. Their son - who family legend says was adopted > > >> (unproven) - >> Thomas Tate Thomas was born there in 1851-2 (different > > records >> and >> gravestone). He married Mary Elizabeth Divers in Franklin > > Co. >> at her >> parents' home and his descendants lived there in Rocky Mount > > and >> surrounds until approx. 1913 and moved to OH. No records, to date, >> > > >> have uncovered anything about John and Polley who are listed as >> his > > >> parents on his marriage certificate.> >> > Jan Thomas> > > >> >> >> > >> **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. 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Wanda, Thank you for the information. I will study it and put it into my computer. I will also send you what information I can find. I really appreciate the help. Mary (Ruddell) Zollman Wanda Flesher wrote: >Here's what I have. Explanation, however. So far, I am not tied into this >Thomas family - The Robert Thomas family, b 1714, Spotsylvania Co.,, >Virginia. Robert had a son Reuben, and I have a Reuben Thomas born in the >same general time frame. Someone told me they were sure the Reubens are the >same. I've been working on this family - putting pieces together in order >to make a connection. Much work has been done researching this family >already. It's a huge family, and there are many loose ends. > >Robert Thomas was married twice. 1/ to Frances Remey, b abt 1720, of >Virginia. Married 1739. Here's the source: U.S. and International >Marriage Records, 1560-1900 >about Robert Thomas >Name: Robert Thomas >Gender: male >Birth Place: VA >Birth Year: *1714* >Spouse Name: Frances Remey >Marriage >Year: 1739 >Number Pages: 1 > >Marriage 2/ to Anne Butler Moore, b 1737, of Orange County, Virginia, >married 4 Apr 1757. Source: Virginia Marriages to 1800 - Spouse, Anne >Moore; Spouse, Robert, Married 9 Apr 1757, Orange Co, VA > >I have not heard others refer to Robert's 1st marriage. However, In his >Will he says " My lands and plantation I now live on, I leave to my wife, >Anne Thomas, *to live on until she and my Executors shall think it >convenient for her to move,* at which time the said land and plantation to >be sold to the best advantage for the payments of my debts *and moving her >and joining my family in Kentucky." *There is also a 20+ year difference >in Robert's and Anne's ages. Since Robert and Anne didn't marry until 1757, >any children born prior to that date would be from the 1st marriage. > >Robert had secured other land in Shelby Co KY, at least. That would have >been Jefferson Co. before 1787 (I think). His agents were Lillard and >Willis. After Robert died, Anne married a John Lillard. I don't know if >this was Lillard of Lillard and Willis or not. > >To answer your question: By his first wife Frances Remey, Robert had a son >(among others) named William. (This is determined by William's date of birth >in that he was born before Robert and Anne married. I think this is your >William Sr. He was born 1749 in Orange Co VA and died Apr 1815 in Shelby Co >KY. He was married twice. 1/ Elizabeth Woolfolk and they had at least two >children, Walter and poss. Sarah. >2/ Mary Polly Cyphers, b 22 Oct 1774 in Pennsylvania and died 30 Sept 1855 >in Washington Co Indiana. I only have one son listed for them, but I'm sure >there are other children. Marriage date - 30 Dec 1794, Shelby Co KY. >Obediah Thomas, b 1807 in Shelby Co KY. (Actually I just found a total of 7 >children for them, including a son William). > >The above dates differ from your 'approximate' dates. However, the lineage >seems to fit well. > >I have to close this now. I have more information. Can you shed any light >(from your gleanings) about any Reuben Thomas? > >Some of this information was gleaned from: >http://thefalers.tripod.com/genealogy/id6.htm<http://thefalers.tripod.com/genealogy/id6.html> > >Will of Robert Thomas, Orange Co Virginia: Will Bk 3, pag 195. written 3 >Feb 1788, probated 28 Jul 1788. > >>From History of Orange Co Va (as above): CHAPTER X. > >Germanna and the First Settlers. > >Orange Co VA Tax list for 1787 >Orange Co VA Road Records, dtd 23 June 1788, pg. 471 - Order Book/Minutes >Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850 >Episcipalian church of early Orange Co VA > >Information received from E Perry/ 2001 > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Mary Zollman <boots@aye.net> wrote: > > > >>The above Daniel Robertson Thomas was my 2nd great grandfather. He was >>married to Abigail E. Overman in Washington County, Indiana. Their >>daughter Josephine was born in Missouri, but the family was soon back in >>Indiana living in Clark County. Due to a mistake in a record book, her >>mother's maiden name has sometimes been understood as "Verman" . The >>handwritten handwritten record is difficult to read, and the "O" looks >>like a very fancy part of the "V", but the marriage record of Daniel >>Thomas and Abigail E. Overman is very clear as to the correct spelling. >> >>I am told that Daniel's father was William Thomas Jr. born 1800, that >>his father was William Thomas Sr. born abt 1760 or 1770 born VA or >>Shelby County, KY, and that William Sr.'s father was Robert born 1737. >>William Thomas Sr.'s wife is said to be Mary Pauline (Polly) Cyphers. >> >>Jesse Overman gave his affidavit for Abigail, resident of Washington >>County, Indiana to marry Daniel R. Thomas. on Nov. 15, 1847. They were >>married Nov. 24, 1847. >> >>If you are researching this family, I would enjoy sharing information >>with you. >> >>Mary (Ruddell) Zollman. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > >
I don't know if this will connect eventually or not. I have 5 Rueben Thomas' I do not know if they connect to your line or not: 1. Rueben David Thomas born in 1871 in Hopkins County, Kentucky. He is the son of Williamson Carroll Thomas born in 1848 Hopkins County, Kentucky. Son of David Henry Thomas born 1808 in Virginia died in Kentucky. 2. Reuben Cleveland Thomas born in 1877, Kentucky. Son of William James Thomas born in Bedford County, Tennessee. Son of Christopher Columbus Thomas born in 1820 in either Virginal or Georgia. I have seen both. He is also the son of the brother of my ggg grandfather, William Robert Thomas born 1820 in Virginia. 3. Reuben B. Thomas born in 1884 Caldwell County, Kentucky. Son of Robert Franklin Thomas born in 1859 in Tennessee son of the above named, Christopher Columbus Thomas. 4. Reuben Thomas born in 1881 , Christian County, Kentucky, , son of Christopher Columbus Thomas. I hope this will spark some connection somewhere. I have been upagainst this wall for a long time. I've done ethe DNA thing, but we are still just out there all by ourself. Virginia in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wanda Flesher" <w.flesher@gmail.com> To: <thomas@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [THOMAS] Daniel Robertson Thomas born 1826 - dau. Josephine Thomas born 1854 > Here's what I have. Explanation, however. So far, I am not tied into this > Thomas family - The Robert Thomas family, b 1714, Spotsylvania Co.,, > Virginia. Robert had a son Reuben, and I have a Reuben Thomas born in the > same general time frame. Someone told me they were sure the Reubens are the > same. I've been working on this family - putting pieces together in order > to make a connection. Much work has been done researching this family > already. It's a huge family, and there are many loose ends. > > Robert Thomas was married twice. 1/ to Frances Remey, b abt 1720, of > Virginia. Married 1739. Here's the source: U.S. and International > Marriage Records, 1560-1900 > about Robert Thomas > Name: Robert Thomas > Gender: male > Birth Place: VA > Birth Year: *1714* > Spouse Name: Frances Remey > Marriage > Year: 1739 > Number Pages: 1 > > Marriage 2/ to Anne Butler Moore, b 1737, of Orange County, Virginia, > married 4 Apr 1757. Source: Virginia Marriages to 1800 - Spouse, Anne > Moore; Spouse, Robert, Married 9 Apr 1757, Orange Co, VA > > I have not heard others refer to Robert's 1st marriage. However, In his > Will he says " My lands and plantation I now live on, I leave to my wife, > Anne Thomas, *to live on until she and my Executors shall think it > convenient for her to move,* at which time the said land and plantation to > be sold to the best advantage for the payments of my debts *and moving her > and joining my family in Kentucky." *There is also a 20+ year difference > in Robert's and Anne's ages. Since Robert and Anne didn't marry until 1757, > any children born prior to that date would be from the 1st marriage. > > Robert had secured other land in Shelby Co KY, at least. That would have > been Jefferson Co. before 1787 (I think). His agents were Lillard and > Willis. After Robert died, Anne married a John Lillard. I don't know if > this was Lillard of Lillard and Willis or not. > > To answer your question: By his first wife Frances Remey, Robert had a son > (among others) named William. (This is determined by William's date of birth > in that he was born before Robert and Anne married. I think this is your > William Sr. He was born 1749 in Orange Co VA and died Apr 1815 in Shelby Co > KY. He was married twice. 1/ Elizabeth Woolfolk and they had at least two > children, Walter and poss. Sarah. > 2/ Mary Polly Cyphers, b 22 Oct 1774 in Pennsylvania and died 30 Sept 1855 > in Washington Co Indiana. I only have one son listed for them, but I'm sure > there are other children. Marriage date - 30 Dec 1794, Shelby Co KY. > Obediah Thomas, b 1807 in Shelby Co KY. (Actually I just found a total of 7 > children for them, including a son William). > > The above dates differ from your 'approximate' dates. However, the lineage > seems to fit well. > > I have to close this now. I have more information. Can you shed any light > (from your gleanings) about any Reuben Thomas? > > Some of this information was gleaned from: > http://thefalers.tripod.com/genealogy/id6.htm<http://thefalers.tripod.com/genealogy/id6.html> > > Will of Robert Thomas, Orange Co Virginia: Will Bk 3, pag 195. written 3 > Feb 1788, probated 28 Jul 1788. > > >From History of Orange Co Va (as above): CHAPTER X. > > Germanna and the First Settlers. > > Orange Co VA Tax list for 1787 > Orange Co VA Road Records, dtd 23 June 1788, pg. 471 - Order Book/Minutes > Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850 > Episcipalian church of early Orange Co VA > > Information received from E Perry/ 2001 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Mary Zollman <boots@aye.net> wrote: > > > The above Daniel Robertson Thomas was my 2nd great grandfather. He was > > married to Abigail E. Overman in Washington County, Indiana. Their > > daughter Josephine was born in Missouri, but the family was soon back in > > Indiana living in Clark County. Due to a mistake in a record book, her > > mother's maiden name has sometimes been understood as "Verman" . The > > handwritten handwritten record is difficult to read, and the "O" looks > > like a very fancy part of the "V", but the marriage record of Daniel > > Thomas and Abigail E. Overman is very clear as to the correct spelling. > > > > I am told that Daniel's father was William Thomas Jr. born 1800, that > > his father was William Thomas Sr. born abt 1760 or 1770 born VA or > > Shelby County, KY, and that William Sr.'s father was Robert born 1737. > > William Thomas Sr.'s wife is said to be Mary Pauline (Polly) Cyphers. > > > > Jesse Overman gave his affidavit for Abigail, resident of Washington > > County, Indiana to marry Daniel R. Thomas. on Nov. 15, 1847. They were > > married Nov. 24, 1847. > > > > If you are researching this family, I would enjoy sharing information > > with you. > > > > Mary (Ruddell) Zollman. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > For Freedom's Sake - Love God, Love America > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Here's what I have. Explanation, however. So far, I am not tied into this Thomas family - The Robert Thomas family, b 1714, Spotsylvania Co.,, Virginia. Robert had a son Reuben, and I have a Reuben Thomas born in the same general time frame. Someone told me they were sure the Reubens are the same. I've been working on this family - putting pieces together in order to make a connection. Much work has been done researching this family already. It's a huge family, and there are many loose ends. Robert Thomas was married twice. 1/ to Frances Remey, b abt 1720, of Virginia. Married 1739. Here's the source: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 about Robert Thomas Name: Robert Thomas Gender: male Birth Place: VA Birth Year: *1714* Spouse Name: Frances Remey Marriage Year: 1739 Number Pages: 1 Marriage 2/ to Anne Butler Moore, b 1737, of Orange County, Virginia, married 4 Apr 1757. Source: Virginia Marriages to 1800 - Spouse, Anne Moore; Spouse, Robert, Married 9 Apr 1757, Orange Co, VA I have not heard others refer to Robert's 1st marriage. However, In his Will he says " My lands and plantation I now live on, I leave to my wife, Anne Thomas, *to live on until she and my Executors shall think it convenient for her to move,* at which time the said land and plantation to be sold to the best advantage for the payments of my debts *and moving her and joining my family in Kentucky." *There is also a 20+ year difference in Robert's and Anne's ages. Since Robert and Anne didn't marry until 1757, any children born prior to that date would be from the 1st marriage. Robert had secured other land in Shelby Co KY, at least. That would have been Jefferson Co. before 1787 (I think). His agents were Lillard and Willis. After Robert died, Anne married a John Lillard. I don't know if this was Lillard of Lillard and Willis or not. To answer your question: By his first wife Frances Remey, Robert had a son (among others) named William. (This is determined by William's date of birth in that he was born before Robert and Anne married. I think this is your William Sr. He was born 1749 in Orange Co VA and died Apr 1815 in Shelby Co KY. He was married twice. 1/ Elizabeth Woolfolk and they had at least two children, Walter and poss. Sarah. 2/ Mary Polly Cyphers, b 22 Oct 1774 in Pennsylvania and died 30 Sept 1855 in Washington Co Indiana. I only have one son listed for them, but I'm sure there are other children. Marriage date - 30 Dec 1794, Shelby Co KY. Obediah Thomas, b 1807 in Shelby Co KY. (Actually I just found a total of 7 children for them, including a son William). The above dates differ from your 'approximate' dates. However, the lineage seems to fit well. I have to close this now. I have more information. Can you shed any light (from your gleanings) about any Reuben Thomas? Some of this information was gleaned from: http://thefalers.tripod.com/genealogy/id6.htm<http://thefalers.tripod.com/genealogy/id6.html> Will of Robert Thomas, Orange Co Virginia: Will Bk 3, pag 195. written 3 Feb 1788, probated 28 Jul 1788. >From History of Orange Co Va (as above): CHAPTER X. Germanna and the First Settlers. Orange Co VA Tax list for 1787 Orange Co VA Road Records, dtd 23 June 1788, pg. 471 - Order Book/Minutes Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850 Episcipalian church of early Orange Co VA Information received from E Perry/ 2001 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Mary Zollman <boots@aye.net> wrote: > The above Daniel Robertson Thomas was my 2nd great grandfather. He was > married to Abigail E. Overman in Washington County, Indiana. Their > daughter Josephine was born in Missouri, but the family was soon back in > Indiana living in Clark County. Due to a mistake in a record book, her > mother's maiden name has sometimes been understood as "Verman" . The > handwritten handwritten record is difficult to read, and the "O" looks > like a very fancy part of the "V", but the marriage record of Daniel > Thomas and Abigail E. Overman is very clear as to the correct spelling. > > I am told that Daniel's father was William Thomas Jr. born 1800, that > his father was William Thomas Sr. born abt 1760 or 1770 born VA or > Shelby County, KY, and that William Sr.'s father was Robert born 1737. > William Thomas Sr.'s wife is said to be Mary Pauline (Polly) Cyphers. > > Jesse Overman gave his affidavit for Abigail, resident of Washington > County, Indiana to marry Daniel R. Thomas. on Nov. 15, 1847. They were > married Nov. 24, 1847. > > If you are researching this family, I would enjoy sharing information > with you. > > Mary (Ruddell) Zollman. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- For Freedom's Sake - Love God, Love America
I just read your Thomas info. below, and have an idea why people made the moves you mentioned. You asked for a "general" idea, and that is all that I am offering. I haven't opened your suggested Wikipedia, "Year W/O a Summer" yet; however, Lewis and Clark's Expedition really opened up the Westward Movement. I think that was about 1804, not too long before the VA to OH to IN migrations that you mentioned. Many pioneers just wanted to see if "the grass was greener on the other side," and get some of that new land for themselves. Now that they had some idea what to expect, for many different reasons, they followed that dream to move West. Once someone that they knew had gone to OH, it was easier for them to follow,...and the same thing for moving on to IN. Remember, too, that there was safety in numbers, so they often moved with several neighbors in their group. Hey! Not too many years later, my ancestors came to the REAL West on the OR Trail! So, here I am, in Florence, OR, on the central OR coastline! Don't forget the belief in Eminent Domain. I suppose that also fed into their thinking. Sincerely, Bonnie Schmoll (My Great-Grandmother was a Thomas, who lived in Fairfield, Freestone Co., TX.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Thomas" <tsquizzled@msn.com> To: <thomas@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [THOMAS] A DNA story Jan, I descend from Velma's line through another son of Aaron Thomas. I doubt they were Mennonites. Aaron's grandfather Rees Thomas was a Baptist after arriving in Virginia from Pennsylvania in the 1740s and Aaron's grandson B.F. Thomas was a Methodist preacher in Fairfield Co., Ohio. Another grandson of Aaron Thomas (Zera C. Thomas - my gg grandfather) moved to Noble Co., IN in the 1860s. My DNA results have best matched people with the surname of Walters; though at 35 markers we are a distance of 2. I have tested 67 markers and like Rory I am feeling a little lonely with no matches named Thomas. Ancestry.com shows thousands of Thomas families in England and Wales in 1891, so I am sure there are some of my line over there somewhere. I have wondered why so many people moved from Rockingham Co., VA to Perry Co., OH in the early 1800s (other than 1816 - the year without a summer; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer) and then why some later moved to Indiana. Do you have any recommended sources for me to understand the context of these migrations generally? Thanks. Tom Thomas > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:53:39 -0600> From: textique@aol.com> To: > thomas@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [THOMAS] A DNA story> > Yes, They moved > to Miami Co., OH and then to surrounding Co.s; > Montgomery and Darke. > Your Thomas' seem to have followed the Mennonites > from VA to OH. Pretty > much the same time and approx. the same counties, > although they spread > across OH following Zane's Trace (sort of the same > route as I-70 today). > That is a basic explanation of a complicated > move. A few of my husband's > Thomas family members from the Rocky Mount > area were Brethren.> > Jan > Thomas> > Vrgfdonna@aol.com wrote:> > Jan, do you know what county they > went to in Oh.? My THOMAS family went to > > Fairfield & Perry Counties in > about 1811 from Rockingham Co., Va., which is > > not really very far from > Bedford Co., especially when you consider county > > changes. I don't know > of a John related to mine, but there may have been one.> > My line:> > > Rees THOMAS 1690 Wales> > Evan THOMAS 1743 Va.> > Aaron THOMAS 1772 Va.> > > David THOMAS ca 1807 Rockingham Co., Va.> > Martha THOMAS 1836 Perry Co., > Oh.> > Thanks,> > Velma> > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2008 11:16:56 > AM Central Daylight Time, > > textique@aol.com writes:> >> > I can trace > my husband's Thomas family to John and Polley (Mary) Thomas > > of Bedford > Co., VA. Their son - who family legend says was adopted > > (unproven) - > Thomas Tate Thomas was born there in 1851-2 (different > > records and > gravestone). He married Mary Elizabeth Divers in Franklin > > Co. at her > parents' home and his descendants lived there in Rocky Mount > > and > surrounds until approx. 1913 and moved to OH. No records, to date, > > > have uncovered anything about John and Polley who are listed as his > > > parents on his marriage certificate.> >> > Jan Thomas> > > >> >> >> > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > > > Home. > > > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)> > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message _________________________________________________________________ How well do you know your celebrity gossip? http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A
I just read your Thomas info. below, and have an idea why people made the moves you mentioned. You asked for a "general" idea, and that is all that I am offering. I haven't opened your suggested Wikipedia, "Year W/O a Summer" yet; however, Lewis and Clark's Expedition really opened up the Westward Movement. I think that was about 1804, not too long before the VA to OH to IN migrations that you mentioned. Many pioneers just wanted to see if "the grass was greener on the other side," and get some of that new land for themselves. Now that they had some idea what to expect, for many different reasons, they followed that dream to move West. Once someone that they knew had gone to OH, it was easier for them to follow,...and the same thing for moving on to IN. Remember, too, that there was safety in numbers, so they often moved with several neighbors in their group. Hey! Not too many years later, my ancestors came to the REAL West on the OR Trail! So, here I am, in Florence, OR, on the central OR coastline! Don't forget the belief in Eminent Domain. I suppose that also fed into their thinking. Sincerely, Bonnie Schmoll (My Great-Grandmother was a Thomas, who lived in Fairfield, Freestone Co., TX.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Thomas" <tsquizzled@msn.com> To: <thomas@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [THOMAS] A DNA story Jan, I descend from Velma's line through another son of Aaron Thomas. I doubt they were Mennonites. Aaron's grandfather Rees Thomas was a Baptist after arriving in Virginia from Pennsylvania in the 1740s and Aaron's grandson B.F. Thomas was a Methodist preacher in Fairfield Co., Ohio. Another grandson of Aaron Thomas (Zera C. Thomas - my gg grandfather) moved to Noble Co., IN in the 1860s. My DNA results have best matched people with the surname of Walters; though at 35 markers we are a distance of 2. I have tested 67 markers and like Rory I am feeling a little lonely with no matches named Thomas. Ancestry.com shows thousands of Thomas families in England and Wales in 1891, so I am sure there are some of my line over there somewhere. I have wondered why so many people moved from Rockingham Co., VA to Perry Co., OH in the early 1800s (other than 1816 - the year without a summer; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer) and then why some later moved to Indiana. Do you have any recommended sources for me to understand the context of these migrations generally? Thanks. Tom Thomas > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:53:39 -0600> From: textique@aol.com> To: > thomas@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [THOMAS] A DNA story> > Yes, They moved > to Miami Co., OH and then to surrounding Co.s; > Montgomery and Darke. > Your Thomas' seem to have followed the Mennonites > from VA to OH. Pretty > much the same time and approx. the same counties, > although they spread > across OH following Zane's Trace (sort of the same > route as I-70 today). > That is a basic explanation of a complicated > move. A few of my husband's > Thomas family members from the Rocky Mount > area were Brethren.> > Jan > Thomas> > Vrgfdonna@aol.com wrote:> > Jan, do you know what county they > went to in Oh.? My THOMAS family went to > > Fairfield & Perry Counties in > about 1811 from Rockingham Co., Va., which is > > not really very far from > Bedford Co., especially when you consider county > > changes. I don't know > of a John related to mine, but there may have been one.> > My line:> > > Rees THOMAS 1690 Wales> > Evan THOMAS 1743 Va.> > Aaron THOMAS 1772 Va.> > > David THOMAS ca 1807 Rockingham Co., Va.> > Martha THOMAS 1836 Perry Co., > Oh.> > Thanks,> > Velma> > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2008 11:16:56 > AM Central Daylight Time, > > textique@aol.com writes:> >> > I can trace > my husband's Thomas family to John and Polley (Mary) Thomas > > of Bedford > Co., VA. Their son - who family legend says was adopted > > (unproven) - > Thomas Tate Thomas was born there in 1851-2 (different > > records and > gravestone). He married Mary Elizabeth Divers in Franklin > > Co. at her > parents' home and his descendants lived there in Rocky Mount > > and > surrounds until approx. 1913 and moved to OH. No records, to date, > > > have uncovered anything about John and Polley who are listed as his > > > parents on his marriage certificate.> >> > Jan Thomas> > > >> >> >> > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > > > Home. > > > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)> > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message _________________________________________________________________ How well do you know your celebrity gossip? http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A
Hi, Can anyone help me with my Brickwall, My G.G.Grandfather, Samuel J. Thomas (aka James Thomas) b. 1827 In VA. His Sister, Eleanor Or Alendor “Posey” Thomas. B. VA. Md. Jesse Harp and settled in Kentucky. I know Samuel left VA, and went to Morgan Co, Indiana, and Married Mary Ann Stevens on January-17-1856. They had my G. Grandmother Martha Jane Thomas b. 1857 In Indiana, and then moved to Claiborne Co, TN. If anyone could help, It would be greatly appreciated, Thanks, Connie </HTML>
The above Daniel Robertson Thomas was my 2nd great grandfather. He was married to Abigail E. Overman in Washington County, Indiana. Their daughter Josephine was born in Missouri, but the family was soon back in Indiana living in Clark County. Due to a mistake in a record book, her mother's maiden name has sometimes been understood as "Verman" . The handwritten handwritten record is difficult to read, and the "O" looks like a very fancy part of the "V", but the marriage record of Daniel Thomas and Abigail E. Overman is very clear as to the correct spelling. I am told that Daniel's father was William Thomas Jr. born 1800, that his father was William Thomas Sr. born abt 1760 or 1770 born VA or Shelby County, KY, and that William Sr.'s father was Robert born 1737. William Thomas Sr.'s wife is said to be Mary Pauline (Polly) Cyphers. Jesse Overman gave his affidavit for Abigail, resident of Washington County, Indiana to marry Daniel R. Thomas. on Nov. 15, 1847. They were married Nov. 24, 1847. If you are researching this family, I would enjoy sharing information with you. Mary (Ruddell) Zollman.
Blount, Calhoun, Marshall counties, Alabama. The SULLIVANS lived. On 21 November 1836 SIMS [spelled several different ways] THOMAS married MATILDA SULLIVAN. Sims b/abt1815 SC and Matilda b/abt1819 SC Matilda parents were Joel and Deliah John Sullivan Sims parents though to be Wiley Thomas and Rebecca Humphries. 1850 census Sims and Matilda was in Marshall Co, Ala Sims was listed as deaf and dumb They had these children::: 1. Delila E. b/ abt 1839 Al 2. Jessty G. b/ abt 1841 Al [sp] 3. Mary Ann C. b/ abt1846 Al 4. Jane Ann b/ abt1846 5. Elizabeth b/ abt 1850 Al Can anyone help with this family? What happened to them after the 1850 census? I thank you for your help--------------James
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Wiley Thomas and Rebecca Humphries families can be found in Blount and Etowah Co, AL. Rebecca Humphries Thomas married a Crump in her older days and you can find info related to this in The Heritage of Blount County Alabama Vol. 5 I have been in touch with two different Thomas' from this line. If you are interested in their addresses...send me an email. Are you the same James' that I sent a copy of Rebecca Humphries Thomas estate settlement? ...Linda >From: clarkappliance@bellsouth.net >Sent: Apr 1, 2008 10:19 AM >To: thomas@rootsweb.com, SULLIVAN-L@rootsweb.com, sullivant@rootsweb.com >Subject: [THOMAS] THOMAS---SULLIVAN > >Blount, Calhoun, Marshall counties, Alabama. The SULLIVANS lived. On 21 November 1836 SIMS [spelled several different ways] THOMAS married MATILDA SULLIVAN. Sims b/abt1815 SC and Matilda b/abt1819 SC > >Matilda parents were Joel and Deliah John Sullivan >Sims parents though to be Wiley Thomas and Rebecca Humphries. > >1850 census Sims and Matilda was in Marshall Co, Ala >Sims was listed as deaf and dumb >They had these children::: >1. Delila E. b/ abt 1839 Al >2. Jessty G. b/ abt 1841 Al [sp] >3. Mary Ann C. b/ abt1846 Al >4. Jane Ann b/ abt1846 >5. Elizabeth b/ abt 1850 Al > >Can anyone help with this family? What happened to them after the 1850 census? > >I thank you for your help--------------James > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Is there any more information on Wiley Thomas and Rebecca Humphries? I am a Thomas by birth and I have been trying to get beyond 1820 with my line. I have a lot of Humphries (SIMS) ( I really like this acronym!) and of course, Thomases. I also have some unconnected (no parent) Sullivans intermixed. I am sure you understand, when I say, I follow any leas that seems to connect until proven otherwise. Thank you, Virginia in Seattle. ----- Original Message ----- From: <clarkappliance@bellsouth.net> To: <thomas@rootsweb.com>; <SULLIVAN-L@rootsweb.com>; <sullivant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:19 AM Subject: [THOMAS] THOMAS---SULLIVAN > Blount, Calhoun, Marshall counties, Alabama. The SULLIVANS lived. On 21 November 1836 SIMS [spelled several different ways] THOMAS married MATILDA SULLIVAN. Sims b/abt1815 SC and Matilda b/abt1819 SC > > Matilda parents were Joel and Deliah John Sullivan > Sims parents though to be Wiley Thomas and Rebecca Humphries. > > 1850 census Sims and Matilda was in Marshall Co, Ala > Sims was listed as deaf and dumb > They had these children::: > 1. Delila E. b/ abt 1839 Al > 2. Jessty G. b/ abt 1841 Al [sp] > 3. Mary Ann C. b/ abt1846 Al > 4. Jane Ann b/ abt1846 > 5. Elizabeth b/ abt 1850 Al > > Can anyone help with this family? What happened to them after the 1850 census? > > I thank you for your help--------------James > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
It doesn't make any difference where the person lives. If you want to know offer to pay for the test if he is willing. They will send the kit and you can mail it to him and you will get the results. That's what I did with my brother [Thomas surname]. Unfortunately he didn't match anybody, but they don't have that many test results and Thomas is a very common surname.
These are the male Thomas lines in my tree. Some are missing lots of info. The brother of the eldest Michael went to NC and onto GA. His name was John. John had 5 sons, Michael, William, Joel, Lewis and Jesse all born pre 1775 in Virginia. Take care. Marilyn Descendants of Michael Thomas 1 Michael Thomas b: Abt. 1721 in Virginia d: October 05, 1799 in Fayette County, Kentucky . +Catherine m: Bef. 1755 ...... 2 Henry Thomas b: Abt. 1738 in Orange County, Virginia d: 1817 in Warren County, Kentucky .......... +Catherine Simmons .............. 3 Jeremiah Thomas .................. +Elizabeth Hays .............. 3 John Thomas b: February 14, 1786 d: November 11, 1851 in Warren County, Kentucky .............. 3 Jesse Thomas .............. 3 Daniel Thomas ...... 2 Abraham Thomas b: 1755 in Orange County, Virginia d: April 05, 1843 in Miami County, Ohio .......... +Susannah Smith b: Abt. 1761 in Culpepper County, Virginia m: December 1775 in Ten Mile Creek S.W. Pennsylvania d: January 25, 1821 in Miami County, Ohio .............. 3 William Thomas b: May 02, 1777 in Redstone, Washington County, Pennsylvania d: December 31, 1857 in Montgomery County, Indiana .................. +Lydia Bruner m: 1801 in Mercer County, Kentucky .............. *2nd Wife of William Thomas: .................. +Margaret Logan m: February 11, 1811 in Harrison county, Kentucky .............. 3 Michael Thomas b: 1779 in Redstone, Washington County, Pennsylvania d: May 24, 1818 in Miami County, Ohio .................. +Mary (Polly) Clough b: 1779 in Rockingham County, Virginia m: July 21, 1803 in Harrison County, Kentucky d: September 03, 1863 in Miami County, Ohio .............. 3 Adam Thomas b: February 25, 1782 in Fishers Fort, Mercer County, Kentucky d: August 11, 1859 in Wingate, Montgomery County, Indiana .................. +Jane McJimsey b: April 08, 1789 m: July 24, 1806 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: October 10, 1843 in Montgomery County, Indiana .............. *2nd Wife of Adam Thomas: .................. +Delilah Scofield b: 1805 in New York m: October 22, 1844 in Montgomery County, Indiana .............. 3 Ezekial Thomas b: 1784 in Fishers Station, Mercer County, Kentucky .............. 3 Abram Thomas b: 1788 in Kentucky .............. 3 Samuel Thomas b: February 24, 1790 in Kentucky d: July 03, 1878 in Miami County, Ohio .................. +Elizabeth Gearhart b: May 15, 1796 m: December 26, 1815 in Miami County, Ohio d: September 29, 1870 .............. 3 Peter Watts Thomas b: May 21, 1798 in Kentucky d: January 31, 1870 in Miami County, Ohio .................. +Alice ...... *2nd Wife of Abraham Thomas: .......... +Mary Swailes b: February 03, 1776 m: July 05, 1821 in Miami County, Ohio d: October 03, 1859 ...... 2 Michael Thomas b: 1759 in Virginia d: Abt. 1849 in Ross County, Ohio .......... +Bridget Downing .............. 3 William Thomas .............. 3 Daniel Thomas ...... *2nd Wife of Michael Thomas: .......... +Elizabeth Bennett b: Unknown m: Abt. 1783 in ? Virginia .............. 3 Abraham Thomas ...... 2 Samuel Thomas b: June 16, 1740 in Orange County, Virginia d: Oct ober 07, 1812 in Bracken County, Kentucky ...... 2 Jesse Thomas ...... 2 John Thomas *2nd Wife of Michael Thomas: . +Eve Susannah Hart b: Abt. 1750 in Germany m: Abt. 1768 d: 1829 in Lewis County, Kentucky ...... 2 George B. Thomas b: January 04, 1771 in Culpepper County, Virginia d: December 13, 1832 in Lewis County, Kentucky .......... +Lavinia Scholl b: December 06, 1778 m: June 19, 1800 in Clark County, Kentucky ...... 2 Solomon Thomas b: Abt. 1773 .......... +(? first name) Barnhill b: Unknown m: Abt. 1793 in Kentucky ............... 3 William Thomas ...... 2 Isreal Thomas b: June 15, 1778 in Pennsylvania d: June 17, 1855 in Lewis County, Kentucky .......... +Catherine Halbert m: July 10, 1803 in Mason County, KY ...... 2 Daniel Thomas b: April 07, 1783 d: May 02, 1853 in Homer, Rush County, Indiana .......... +Mary McQueen ...... 2 Sarah Thomas b: Unknown **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
One of the DNA lines that has been tested (my maternal grandmother's line) is R1b which is one of the most common groups in Western Europe. There are over 50 matches at 12 markers on this line. I don't even investigate them further and the ones who match on 37 markers -- are have the same surname and all known to be related My husbands surname is Danish and they changed the surname with each generation -- He ended up with HANSEN as his great grandfather was the son of HANS when they stopped this naming practice but the generation before was ANDERSEN as -- son of ANDERS -- so in his case, the surnames mean nothing and the location in Denmark is more important In my THOMAS line -- E3b-- even though we don't match any other Thomas lines --we also don't match ANY E3b because we have a couple of markers on the first twelve that are off the beaten path for E3b which makes us UNIQUE and any matches -- even with a different surname -- (if we ever get one)-- will be of interest. Just a couple of scenarios. Take care. Marilyn **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
Jan, I descend from Velma's line through another son of Aaron Thomas. I doubt they were Mennonites. Aaron's grandfather Rees Thomas was a Baptist after arriving in Virginia from Pennsylvania in the 1740s and Aaron's grandson B.F. Thomas was a Methodist preacher in Fairfield Co., Ohio. Another grandson of Aaron Thomas (Zera C. Thomas - my gg grandfather) moved to Noble Co., IN in the 1860s. My DNA results have best matched people with the surname of Walters; though at 35 markers we are a distance of 2. I have tested 67 markers and like Rory I am feeling a little lonely with no matches named Thomas. Ancestry.com shows thousands of Thomas families in England and Wales in 1891, so I am sure there are some of my line over there somewhere. I have wondered why so many people moved from Rockingham Co., VA to Perry Co., OH in the early 1800s (other than 1816 - the year without a summer; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer) and then why some later moved to Indiana. Do you have any recommended sources for me to understand the context of these migrations generally? Thanks. Tom Thomas > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:53:39 -0600> From: textique@aol.com> To: thomas@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [THOMAS] A DNA story> > Yes, They moved to Miami Co., OH and then to surrounding Co.s; > Montgomery and Darke. Your Thomas' seem to have followed the Mennonites > from VA to OH. Pretty much the same time and approx. the same counties, > although they spread across OH following Zane's Trace (sort of the same > route as I-70 today). That is a basic explanation of a complicated > move. A few of my husband's Thomas family members from the Rocky Mount > area were Brethren.> > Jan Thomas> > Vrgfdonna@aol.com wrote:> > Jan, do you know what county they went to in Oh.? My THOMAS family went to > > Fairfield & Perry Counties in about 1811 from Rockingham Co., Va., which is > > not really very far from Bedford Co., especially when you consider county > > changes. I don't know of a John related to mine, but there may have been one.> > My line:> > Rees THOMAS 1690 Wales> > Evan THOMAS 1743 Va.> > Aaron THOMAS 1772 Va.> > David THOMAS ca 1807 Rockingham Co., Va.> > Martha THOMAS 1836 Perry Co., Oh.> > Thanks,> > Velma> > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2008 11:16:56 AM Central Daylight Time, > > textique@aol.com writes:> >> > I can trace my husband's Thomas family to John and Polley (Mary) Thomas > > of Bedford Co., VA. Their son - who family legend says was adopted > > (unproven) - Thomas Tate Thomas was born there in 1851-2 (different > > records and gravestone). He married Mary Elizabeth Divers in Franklin > > Co. at her parents' home and his descendants lived there in Rocky Mount > > and surrounds until approx. 1913 and moved to OH. No records, to date, > > have uncovered anything about John and Polley who are listed as his > > parents on his marriage certificate.> >> > Jan Thomas> > > >> >> >> > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > > Home. > > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)> > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THOMAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ How well do you know your celebrity gossip? http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A