Does anyone from the list have Thomas connections to Radnor or Delaware Ohio? I am descendant from MaryAnn Jane Rowlands and John Thomas of Radnor. Thanks Diana Bostic Hyde

Craig - I can get the index on www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/index.html. That is what I have bookmaarked. Alex Early Craig Bickle -SLO wrote: > Dear fellow researchers, > > This may seem strange, but I'm sure there's a simple explanation, and I > hope someone here can point it out to me. I subscribed to THOMAS-L and > Genealib many months ago and have been pleased with the information I now > receive from both listservs. However, when I recommended a friend subscribe > to the HARRIS-L list and visited the "Rootsweb" website to find out if one > exists, I was unable to find the list of surname mailing lists anywhere. > Has the rootsweb site changed? And if so, is it still possible to see > which surnames have rootsweb mailing lists as I clearly remember doing in > the past? > > TIA, > > Craig Bickle > Genealogy Librarian cbickle@winslo.state.oh.us > The State Library of Ohio (614) 644-6966 (voice) > 65 S. Front St. (614) 644-7004 (fax) > Columbus, OH 43215

To Craig Bickle: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl This is a site where you may search for a specific mailing list. You just type in the name of your choice and click on "search" I tried this, using the HARRIS surname, and there is evidently no list for HARRIS at this time. Try it, its great! LaDoris eva@cvtv.net At 10:36 AM 11/4/98 -0500, Craig Bickle wrote: >......when I visited the "Rootsweb" website to find >out if [HARRIS LIST] exists, I was unable to find the >list of surname mailing lists anywhere. >Has the rootsweb site changed? > >Craig Bickle...Genealogy Librarian >cbickle@winslo.state.oh.us>> =====================================

I am looking for information on my great-great-grandfather John Thomas THOMAS. He was born 4 Aug 1817 in North Carolina and married Susan Helms on 03 Nov 1836 in Campbell Co.,Ga. Their daugther Dorcas Mariam was my great-grandmother and she married John James Shaddix, son of Greenberry,Sr. and Susan[Cooley]Shaddix. I hope someone can help me with this line. Thanks in advance. Faye

Dear fellow researchers, This may seem strange, but I'm sure there's a simple explanation, and I hope someone here can point it out to me. I subscribed to THOMAS-L and Genealib many months ago and have been pleased with the information I now receive from both listservs. However, when I recommended a friend subscribe to the HARRIS-L list and visited the "Rootsweb" website to find out if one exists, I was unable to find the list of surname mailing lists anywhere. Has the rootsweb site changed? And if so, is it still possible to see which surnames have rootsweb mailing lists as I clearly remember doing in the past? TIA, Craig Bickle Genealogy Librarian cbickle@winslo.state.oh.us The State Library of Ohio (614) 644-6966 (voice) 65 S. Front St. (614) 644-7004 (fax) Columbus, OH 43215

Looking for parents and any more information about my ancestor COL.MICAJAH THOMAS of NC who died in Nash County, NC in 1790. He was probably living in the Halifax vicinity at one point. Thanks Caroline Burnett Cook

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I noticed a post relating to a THOMAS family from Missouri. I am looking for a NY THOMAS family with a child named Missouri. If anyone knows of a Missouri THOMAS, b. ca 1817, d. 26 Nov 1886 in Ovid, Seneca, NY; or a Missouri Ann THOMAS, b. 15 Oct 1854, Bowne, Kent, MI (died young), I would love to hear from you! Laura Prescott Duffy Brookline, NH

I'm looking for some Kentucky Thomas', but I don't know where in Kentucky. Both Sydney & Delitha Jane were born there but were married in Texas. Here's what I have: 1 - Thomas, Sydney A. (b.abt.1854 - KY) sp: Davis, Delitha Jane (b. abt. 1859 - KY) 2 - Thomas, Henry A. (b. Mar 1882 - KY) 2 - Thomas, Hannah Leono (b. 23 Sep 1884 - KY; d. 14 Jul 1951 - TX) sp: Pennington, Wm. Marshall (m. 24 Aug 1902 - TX) 3 - Pennington, Rachel Leona (b. 8 Jun 1903 - TX; d. 7 Jan 1996 - TX) sp: Smith, Jesse Franklin (b. 16 Aug 1901 - TX; d. 1 Feb 1958 - TX) 4 - Smith, Doris Eugene (b. 1 Jul 1929 - TX) sp: Fry, Joe Bill (b. 29 Aug 1927 - TX; d. 10 Apr 1990 - TX) 5 - Fry, Donna Lynn 2 - Thomas, Roy C. (b. Mar 1886 - KY) 2 - Thomas, George R. (b. Aug 1888 - KY) 2 - Thomas, Kate S. (b. Nov 1893 - TX) 2 - Thomas, Sarah V. (Jan 1896 - TX)

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Does any one have any info on THOMAS' in Ellensburg, WA area. Late 1800s, early 1900s Gerri in WA

This is all I have on my Thomas line. Hope someone can find a connection. Bill Gentry Descendants of Isaac Thomas Generation No. 1 1. ISAAC1 THOMAS was born Abt. 1825 in Missouri. He married LUCILE COOK. Children of ISAAC THOMAS and LUCILE COOK are: 2. i. JOHN HAGAN2 THOMAS, b. 02-08-1850, Missouri; d. 07-03-1941, Scott Co., MS. ii. HENRY THOMAS. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN HAGAN2 THOMAS (ISAAC1) was born 02-08-1850 in Missouri, and died 07-03-1941 in Scott Co., MS. He married SARAH ELIZABETH HUNT 09-14-1876, daughter of JAMES HUNT and NANCY WALTERS. Children of JOHN THOMAS and SARAH HUNT are: 3. i. NANNIE E.3 THOMAS, b. 08-1877, Mississippi. ii. WILLIAM FRANKLIN THOMAS, b. 11-1878, Mississippi. iii. JOSEPH LEMUEL THOMAS, b. 02-26-1880, Mississippi; d. 08-25-1964, Scott Co., MS. 4. iv. BIRDIE THOMAS, b. 09-1881, Mississippi. 5. v. MARY J. THOMAS, b. 05-1883, Mississippi. 6. vi. KATIE BELLE THOMAS, b. 12-14-1884, Scott Co., MS; d. 10-19-1963, Scott Co., MS. 7. vii. RUBY THOMAS, b. 12-1887, Mississippi. Generation No. 3 3. NANNIE E.3 THOMAS (JOHN HAGAN2, ISAAC1) was born 08-1877 in Mississippi. She married CLAYBON MANN. Children of NANNIE THOMAS and CLAYBON MANN are: i. ALBERT4 MANN. ii. CLYDE MANN. iii. WILLIE MANN. iv. ROY MANN. v. LOIS MANN. vi. KATIE LOU MANN. 4. BIRDIE3 THOMAS (JOHN HAGAN2, ISAAC1) was born 09-1881 in Mississippi. She married GEORGE LANDFAIR. Children of BIRDIE THOMAS and GEORGE LANDFAIR are: i. GEORGE4 LANDFAIR, JR. ii. CLAUDE LANDFAIR. iii. KATHLEEN LANDFAIR. iv. CHRISTINE LANDFAIR. v. RUBY LANDFAIR. 5. MARY J.3 THOMAS (JOHN HAGAN2, ISAAC1) was born 05-1883 in Mississippi. She married WRIGHT WILLIS. Children of MARY THOMAS and WRIGHT WILLIS are: i. LUCILLE4 WILLIS. ii. EDWARD WILLIS. iii. MARY ETHEL WILLIS. iv. J. L. WILLIS. 6. KATIE BELLE3 THOMAS (JOHN HAGAN2, ISAAC1) was born 12-14-1884 in Scott Co., MS, and died 10-19-1963 in Scott Co., MS. She married EZRA STOVALL GENTRY, son of NATHANIEL GENTRY and MARY NORMAN. Children of KATIE THOMAS and EZRA GENTRY are: i. LONNIE LAMAR4 GENTRY, b. 07-11-1910, Hickory, MS; d. 03-17-1969, Connehatta, MS; m. MARGARET HARALSON. ii. SADIE LORENE GENTRY, b. 09-10-1911, Hickory, MS; d. 09-10-1977. iii. VERNON LEE GENTRY, b. 01-01-1913, Hickory, MS; d. 04-04-1986, Conehatta, MS. iv. MILTON STOVALL GENTRY, b. 10-26-1914, Hickory, MS; d. 06-04-1980, Jackson, MS; m. MARY MADELIN BUCY. v. JOHN HENRY GENTRY, b. 10-13-1916; m. MAGGIE L. GRIFFITH. 7. RUBY3 THOMAS (JOHN HAGAN2, ISAAC1) was born 12-1887 in Mississippi. She married ALBERT EVANS. Children of RUBY THOMAS and ALBERT EVANS are: i. GLADYS4 EVANS. ii. JOHN AUSTIN EVANS.

Found one more Thomas on the indentured servant list, Just in case someone is looking for her. Date indentured Feb 27 Name May Thomas Age at time of indenture 10 yrs old Number of years 8 yrs Where indentured Warren Co., MS Guardian indentured to Woodford Deirne Residence of Guardian Warren Co., MS

Found this on another web site. Thought someone might be looking for her. Date indentured Jan 18 Name Annie Jane Thomas Age when indentured 8 yrs old Number of years indentured 10 yrs Where indentured Warren Co., MS Indentured to J. N. Kent Residence of Guardian Carrol Parish, LA

"My Most Wanted THOMAS Family Member!" I am looking for the parents of William THOMAS of Monmouth County, New Jersey > Name: William THOMAS Sex: M > Birth: On or Abt Feb. 2, 1780 Place: unknown but perhaps NY or NJ > Chr: Place: > Marr: by 1803 Spouse: Mary _________, of Pennsylvannia > Marr: Spouse: > Marr: Spouse: > Death: March 20, 1850 Place: ,Monmouth County, NJ > Burial: Ye Old Robbins Burying Ground Place: Upper Freehold, NJ > > Father: PERHAPS (Robert THOMAS) Mother: Unknown > Notes--------------------------------------------------------- Also buried in the Robbins Burying Ground is Charles THOMAS who I believe was William's brother. Other brothers could be Robert THOMAS Jr., John THOMAS. Children of William THOMAS and wife Mary are: Ezekiel THOMAS born Oct. 13, 1806 married Maria Runals Margaret THOMAS born Dec. 10, 1807 married Joseph Smires Charles THOMAS born Aug. 16, 1809 married Rachel Perrine Sarah THOMAS born 1811 married Capt. Walter Karr Rebecca THOMAS born 1811/1812 married Charles Applegate Elizabeth THOMAS born Nov. 21, 1817 married Corlis Perrine William THOMAS JR. (my line) born Aug. 3, 1820 married Margaret Perrine Lucy Ann THOMAS born after 1820 Any information on the above line will be appreciated. Regards Bill

Terrible news, terrible Hi all, I'm forwarding this message at Nancy's request with deep regret. However, this resignation should NOT be accepted by this projects membership. Even though highly flawed and poorly written, our NC has tried to work within the by-laws. My personal opinion is that every CC within the USGW needs to read what Nancy has to say. She has ask on the State Coordinator list to have certain messages forwarded in the past and they have NOT been forwarded effectively being censored. Not heresay folks, I've asked around..you all know CCs in other states and we do too....meaning I've checked with CCs I'm aquainted with in a number of states and the requested messages did not appear on their respective state administrative lists. My opinion again folks. It's up to you, but if you're aquainted with CCs in other states, consider forwarding this message and if it has not been received encourage them to share with their fellow CC's. How can we expect even the first elected NC to do their job if we don't support them. T >Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:03:06 -0800 (PST) >X-Sender: trice@mail.vci.net >Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:01:07 -0600 >Old-To: Board-L@rootsweb.com >From: Nancy Trice <trice@vci.net> >Old-Cc: <state-coord-l@rootsweb.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] oh well... >To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2546 >X-Loop: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: STATE-COORD-L-request@rootsweb.com > >I started to send this privately to the members of the board but after >thinking about it for several hours have decided to post it publicly. I ask >that all state coordinators forward it to their state lists, but I'm sure >that some of you won't. For the benefit of those CCs whose SCs doesn't >forward it as requested, it will also be posted at: >http://www.nlt.net/usgenweb/11-2-98.html > >I'll start by reminding all of you that I have been part of this project >for longer than any of you, discussing the concept with Jeff Murphy in late >Feb and early March 1996 before KyGenWeb even started... before it was ever >announced on the KYROOTS list. I have loved it and worked my butt off for >over 2 1/2 years to help make it what it is today. I have been SC and >archivist, or file manager, for 3 states, handled several hundred orphan >counties, put up numerous pages to help the new CCs, and have personally >helped many of you. I have attempted to do what I think is best for >USGenWeb, as I was elected to do... as I have done for over 2 1/2 years... >and have been villafied and maligned for doing so. > >Whether any of you realize it or not, I was put in a very awkward position >when the CCs elected me... I was against the bylaws as written... >campaigned against them... and am now in a position of having to work >within them because the consensus of opinion appeared to be that they are >better than no bylaws... vote them in and fix them later. Well, you've all >seen now how really bad they are and how they are open to different >interpretations. It doesn't matter what the intent was when they were >written. They are very poorly written, period! > >The bylaws say that the National Coordinator is the chair of the Advisory >Board but gives no direction for the NC to follow except 'these Bylaws and >by accepted parliamentary procedure'. What is considered 'day-to-day >administration'? What is 'accepted parliamentary procedure'? Who is to >decide? This should have all been spelled out in the bylaws instead of >leaving it so ambiquous. Since it wasn't I have done my best to try to >abide by them anyway as best I could and have been shot down at every step. > > >The bylaws say that the Advisory Board '...shall address any problem issues >as they arise'... 'advising and mediating, if necessary, any grievances or >appeals...'. > >Websters dictionary gives the definition of Advisory as: > adj. 1. Having power to adivse. 2. Containing or given as advice; > not mandatory. > >To me, and to many other CCs, this says that the board are advisors to the >NC and the project volunteers... not the project 'leaders'. > >Article VI, Section 2 of the bylaws says that 'the National Coordinator >shall preside at all meetings of the Advisory Board'. Article VIII, >Section 1 of the bylaws says that 'Nine (9) voting members of the Advisory >Board shall constitute a quorum'. > >Nowhere in the bylaws does it say anything about how those meetings are to >be held, including that they may be held on a general board discussion list >and the quorum established because the board members are subbed to that list. > >I felt strongly (and still do) that board meetings should be held in real >time in order to properly establish a quorum according to the bylaws. I >also feel that the people who elected the board members expected you to >attend those meetings. As a nominee, I would also have thought that you >would expect there to be meetings that you would need to attend. It's >obvious that the majority of the board doesn't feel the way I do. > >It was discussed on the board list that you needed a secretary to keep up >with motions, votes, etc. I placed it on the Oct. 4 agenda where it was >promptly tabled. > >Article VI Section 6 of the Bylaws states: The Advisory Board shall also be >responsible for administering the domains, usgenweb.com, usgenweb.net and >usgenweb.org, over which The USGenWeb Project membership has control and >for which the members are the official lessees. > >As the NC I wrote to Dale Schneider shortly after taking office to inquire >as to his intentions with the usgenweb.com domain. To this date I have >not received a response from him, even tho I sent a 2nd email a few weeks >later. I placed this item on the agenda for the board to discuss where it >was promptly tabled with a comment that he has said he won't turn it over >to the Advisory Board at this time. Because I wrote to him I have now been >accused of 'being obsessed with obtaining control of usgenweb.com' by Linda >Lewis and Don Spidell, both of whom are positive I plan on getting my >grubby little hands on it so I can turn it over to Jerry and Lucy Dill. If >anyone on the board that had 'spoken' with Dale had bothered to inform me >that they had corresponded or chatted with him and what he had said, I >wouldn't have placed it on the agenda. Even after placing it on the >agenda, I could have been informed so it could be removed, but in my >opinion you deliberately chose not to. Today, the bylaws still say that >the board controls that domain, and of course you do not... and further >you have not indicated in any way how you intend to reconcile the bylaws to >the reality. > >The board needs to begin working on election procedures for next year. I >placed this on the agenda for Oct. 4 and a committee chair was elected. If >anything has been done about setting up the committee I am unaware of it at >this time (4 weeks later). > >It's obvious that the bylaws need to be amended in many places. I put this >on the Oct. 4 agenda and a committee chair was elected. If anything has >been done about setting up the committee I am unaware of it at this time (4 >weeks later). > >Numerous project members have written me requesting that the board address >the question of whether or not a member of Rootsweb staff [namely Karen] >should even be on the board-l mail list, suggesting that if the board >needed her input on something she could be asked. I put it on the agenda >where it was quickly tabled, and has not been addressed yet. I, and >others, do not feel that Karen should be on the board list since she was >not elected by anyone [no offense meant to Karen]. > >On 11-1-98 Betsy wrote: >>And, Nancy, I am at a loss as to why you were offended that Trey and I >decided to seek input into who our constituents would like to see as their >next representative. It concerns me that you automatically assume that we >wouldn't even consider your suggestion. Certainly it is one of the >suggestions that we were considering along with suggestions from our >constituents. > > >One of the suggestions you were considering? Who was considering? and >where? Certainly not on the board list. I was not necessarily offended by >the fact that you took it to the CCs, and might even have agreed with you >had there been any real discussion on it. What does offend me however is >that I made a suggestion, 2 or 3 of you immediately shot it down and with >no further discussion it's on the SC list... no discussion at all as to how >we should proceed or whether we should take it to the CCs, try to have >another election, or whatever... it was just done. When I then commented on >it on the SC list, Holly immediately asked why I was discussing it there >instead of here. Funny... that's where the discussion was... not here! I >think that we should have decided how to proceed as a group and not just by >1 or 2 of you. Isn't this what you have all been saying to me for the past >2 months? Whether right or wrong, I saw this action as just one more slap >in the face to the NC by the Advisory Board. > >Almost every one of you have shot me down in the past 2 months because I >tried to lead us, as I was elected to do by the CCs, and the majority of >you have all said, in actions if not by words, that you [the AB] are the >project leader, and have effectively relegated the position of NC to a >motion numberer and vote counter. > >[snip] > >Betsy continued: >>At this point, everything is so public that we can't even discuss anything >without being ripped to shreds on other lists. You don't know the reasons >I have voted as I have on ANY of the issues as you have not asked. I would >LOVE to discuss things with everyone (especially you), hear their views, >express my views, maybe even change my views after hearing the discussion, >etc. > >Have you one time asked me why I feel as I do? Have you tried to open a >dialogue? No... the board members just stated they were against something >or for something and immediately pushed for a vote. Maureen questioned the >board about this numerous times. > >>But this can not happen as it now stands. > >Not pointing any fingers here, but who did that? I said in Sept. that I did >not think the board list should be opened. I said we should have our >discussions on the list, in private, then hold a meeting to vote. Most of >you shot that down. I offered a very workable compromise which all but 1 >or 2 of you immediately shot down as not workable, and I believe every one >of you voted to open the list archives and hold a continuous meeting. I >don't know how any of you feel about it now, but I think that was a >terrible decision. I think the board has tied it's own hands, and unless >you close the board list archives I don't think you'll ever get anything >done. > >I also know that as both a CC and a SC I would never bring any problem I >might have to the board because there is no privacy anymore. I think by >opening the list archives you have done a great injustice to any SC or CC >that might want to seek your advise. I believe the board discussions >should be private, board meetings either open to the public or at least a >log or minutes of the meeting posted. > >[snip] > >>Personally, I would like for us to back up and slow down on this >replacement issue. I don't understand the reason behind the rush to >immediately appoint someone. The only persons I have heard from in support >of Kathy are all from KS which is only one of the states represented in >this region. Everyone else I have heard from wishes that we could poll the >constituents of our region. The answer might still be to appoint Kathy, >but it might not. But at least we would know the wishes of the CC's or our >region. Is there anything wrong with this??? > > >What have I said that indicated I was in a rush to fill the position Betsy? >Again, had there been discussion about it I might have changed my original >position on the matter, but I wasn't given that opportunity. I just think >the board should have decided as a body how to proceed instead of some of >you taking it upon yourselves without a vote, in effect doing what you have >all accused me of doing. > >It's quite obvious to me that the AB does not interpret any of the bylaws >the same way I do. It's also obvious that none of you have the same >concerns that I do. I have stated over and over that I am for a bottom up >structure. That means the CCs should control the project. There are 50 >states, which means 100 people if none of them were SC in more than 1 state >and each state has an ASC, and there are 4 SC reps for them, and only 8 to >represent in the neighborhood of 2000 CCs. To me that is top down, not >bottom up. I am also completely against the special projects all having a >voting board member. I think that is an open invitation for more and more >special projects to be set up in order to get a board seat and eventually >the special projects will control the USGW board. 4 of the 15 board members >were elected by less than 100 people, all of whom are SCs, and 3 were >supposedly voted on, [but might have been appointed], by special projects, >many of whom are not CCs. As a CC I don't like the numbers, and many >others I've talked with don't either. > >I'm also concerned by the statements I see now that a CC that received >votes in the last election should not be appointed because their views >'might not be the best for USGW' or words to that effect. Frankly, I think >the board should be comprised of people with differing view points and >different ideas, not by a group of people all with the same philosophy or >agenda. I think for USGW to continue to grow all ideas must be considered. > From what I have seen on the lists however, it appears that a certain >group of people want only people with their views on the board, and anyone >that doesn't share their views is labeled a troublemaker and quickly run >off the list. > >I also feel that a process needs to be set up to insure that a 'fired' >volunteer gets a fair shake if they file an appeal. Yes, I'm talking about >Kenny Thomas. That's over and done with now but it still leaves a very >bitter taste in the mouths of many of the CCs, especially those in Ks. This >board did nothing to mediate the problem or even try to find out what >really happened, automatically assuming that everything that Linda Lewis >said was gospel and everything that Kenny Thomas, and Maureen Reed, said >was a lie. I think that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. I >tried to set up a board list where it could be discussed by all interested >parties but that didn't work either did it? Seems that the board [and >RootsWeb staff] apparently thought I wouldn't allow the right people to be >subbed or something. > >I've heard from numerous CCs that Linda refused to let them sub to the >Archives-L list because they were CCs and not state level. I asked to be >subbed to that list when it looked like the Ks situation would be discussed >there. Linda subbed me then immediately unsubbed me when I asked everyone >to wait until the new list was obtained. Because of some of the >accusations I had heard I asked her to resub me. She did so, very >grudgingly, then immediately set up a new list for the archive CCs, subbed >me to it and unsubbed me from the archives-l without so much as a note. >That goes a long way toward giving credence to some of the problems I have >heard about, to say nothing about giving the distinct impression that she >feels that what goes on in the Archives is of no concern to the NC, or the >USGenWeb project. At the very least it was very disrespectful to the NC, >regardless of who the NC might be. > >After re-reading this several times, and considering how the board feels, >and how I feel about the bylaws, I think it's best if I just go ahead and >resign. Maybe you can get someone as NC that holds your views. > >You may consider this my resignation as National Coordinator. > >nt >

> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hapime49@aol.com wrote: > > > > I am looking for parents of Cornilius W. Thomas of Marion Co. WV, I believe. > > Born 1837 married to Cordelia Mason in 1859. Any help is greatly > > appreciated.. > > Yours, Gena in FL Gena, I don't know if this will help, but there are several Cornelius > Thomases in Amhearst and Albemarle Co. Va during the late 1700's. I know > this is in western Va. but I don't know how close to Marion Co. Deeds of > Amherst and Albemarle Co. Va. by Baily Fulton Davis can be obtained > through interlibrary loan. I know there are entries for Cornelius Thomas > there. Don Thomas Simmons

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My most wanted THOMAS: Ann THOMAS b. 1811, m. Lewis CHRISTY, died 1838 David THOMAS b. 1812/3, d. 1833 in Bart Twp. Lancaster County, PA. Stuck, looking for parents. Believed to be in Chester County PA in the 1820's. Thanks, Mark mark.christy@decisionone.com

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