The very best place for THOMAS/Germanna info is the Germanna-L list on rootsweb. There is a gentleman there whose site has ALL the Germanna info on it. He's also writing what seems to be the definitive book on Germanna descendants and posts a section every day or so. Sue

I am searching for the parents of Griffith Thomas who was born around 1750-1755 in Pa. His son, Griffith, was born in 1775. He also had a son named James and one named Joseph. Joseph was called the "white pilgrim". He was a minister and always wore white. This family migrated from Pa. to NC. Some stayed in Orange and Alamance Co., NC while some returned to Va. and then on to Ohio. There has been a book published about this family called "Our Kinsman", but I can't get beyond Griffith. If anyone has any connnections, please notify me at easythomas@aol.com. Thanks, Mary Thomas

I am searching for the parents of Nicholas Thomas who was born around 1794 in Maryland; moved to NC, married Mary Anne (Polly) Morris in Randolph Co., NC in 1812. Bought land that same year in Rowan Co. near the Thomasville area. Jane and Jeremiah are the only two known siblings. It is strongly suspected that William Thomas , born around 1765, died in 1840 or 1846, and buried in what is now Davidson Co., NC is the father of Nicholas but I do not have proof. Please contact me at easythomas@aol.com if you can help me. Thank you. Mary Thomas

Do you have any URLs that I could check for further Germanna info? I have some Thomas' in Carter Co. Ky area that seem to have just sprung out of the rocks.--Sherry -----Original Message----- From: bishop5@ix.netcom.com <bishop5@ix.netcom.com> To: THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com <THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 7:54 AM Subject: Re: THOMAS Origins > > > When searching for THOMAS, don't forget the Germanna Colony in Virginia. >THOMAS is also a German name (AKA TOMER/TOMAR) and there is a large clan of >Germanna THOMASes descended from a Johan THOMAS who came over about 1717. >He died soon after but left two sons, John and Michael. Both married and >left descendants but Michael was the prolific one, marrying twice and >producing (according to many accounts) TWENTY-FIVE children, many of whom >were sons. Some of them migrated into NE Ky very early and there was an >extensive THOMAS clan in Mason/Lewis/Carter Co., Ky area before 1800, >part of whom were from his line. > > >Sue > > > > >==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== >Did you know that only 7% of Rootsweb subscribers support Rootsweb? > Thank you for your generous financial support of Rootsweb! >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

FYI Some people may not realize there is a difference, but, Scotch is a drink, and the folks from Scotland are Scots. Some Scots might even take it to be an insult to be called a liquor. So many people refer to the Scots-Irish as Scotch-Irish and it really is an improper term. I realize that it is just lack of knowledge of that fact, so I do hope people realize I am just trying to be informative. I do not wish to insult anyone who has used the term Scotch-Irish. I use to say it too when I was a teen, but my grandmother quickly educated me about that. I just recently read an online article about the subject on a Celtic site, that said that it is an insult to Scots to call them Scotch. I have some nice Celtic links and Scottish Clan links on my website if anyone cares to look at it. Take care and happy hunting! from a Welsh, Irish, Scot, English, German, Dutch, American (you know, a mutt!) :-) TTFN, Lynda (THOMAS) CAMPBELL hilanders@jps.net Lynda's Genealogy Homepage http://www.jps.net/hilanders ...And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the heart of the children to their fathers... Malachi 4:6

When searching for THOMAS, don't forget the Germanna Colony in Virginia. THOMAS is also a German name (AKA TOMER/TOMAR) and there is a large clan of Germanna THOMASes descended from a Johan THOMAS who came over about 1717. He died soon after but left two sons, John and Michael. Both married and left descendants but Michael was the prolific one, marrying twice and producing (according to many accounts) TWENTY-FIVE children, many of whom were sons. Some of them migrated into NE Ky very early and there was an extensive THOMAS clan in Mason/Lewis/Carter Co., Ky area before 1800, part of whom were from his line. Sue

I am searching for my ancestors back to Wales and Ireland. My Grandmother told me that I am Scotch/Irish and Welsh. I have the Blair family name back to South Carolina in 1766 and I know that they were Irish/Scotch. The Thomas' were from Wales I believe. I would be appreciative of any information you could provide or sources, org's I might try. Several years ago I went to Wales (Pembroke) with some friends that had found a man that was in real estate with my same name, Guy Thomas. I spent 2 hours talking to him about Welsh history and my name Guy, which he said came from the French/Norman invasion. He was very accommodating. I came back to the US with hopes of finding my roots. My grandmother that was a Blair told me that I was Scotch/Irish (Blair) and Welsh (Thomas). I have now gotten the Blair's back to Ireland in 1750 but not sure where, as I have found where they came as emigrants to SC in 1766 to receive bounty land. I have the Thomas bunch on the census for 1790 and a land transaction in Edgefield Dist. SC, 1795. But that is where it ends. > Thanking you in advance for any help you might provide. I have found out that there were a lot of Welsh people that worked on the railroad. Also my GGGrandfather was in the civil war so it makes for a good history. > Seeking information on Jeremiah Thomas, place of Birth and parents. Through a lease Jeremiah Thomas of the state of GA, planter, was present in Edgefield County, 96 Dist, SC in Oct 1795. Sold land granted to him in Oct 1794 on Little Steven's Creek and waters of the Savannah River. His name appears on the SC 1800 census. I believe he had at least two sons, Joshua, b 1799 and Jeremiah 1800 something. Joshua was my GGGrandfather. My GGrandfather was William A. Thomas born in Green Cty, AL in 1829 and Grandfather was Charles William Thomas b Scooba, Kemper Cty, MS, in 3-10-1863 where he married Sallie Frances Blair in 1890 and moved to Houston, TX where he worked for the Southern Pacific RR. Joshua and Jeremiah were present in Scooba, Kemper Cty, MS, in the mid/late 1800s. Joshua at age 71 married to a Narcissa with a son David on the 1870 census. I have these Thomas's in Texas to date. There was a Josiah Thomas at the Red Bank Baptist church on the little Saluda River in Edgefield Dist before 1792. He was on the 1790 census for Edgefield Dist, SC. Thought these names might be of the same family somehow. The Blair's and the Thomas families traveled together from SC to AL to MS. Guy H. Thomas

Thanks to Jerry for responding and asking questions about my dates in recent "Scots-Irish Thomases" message. William Thomas of 1850 Coosa County census is 57 with wife Betsy, 33, and children all born in AL, the oldest being 12. Someone has made a note in on-line census information that William Thomas married Eliza Ray in 1836 in Georgia. This certainly fits the childrens ages. I am looking at possibility of earlier wife as mother of James M. This would also explain why James M. Thomas and two brothers, all in late teens or early twenties migrated to Mississippi sans parents. Even more confusing is that in 1828, a William Thomas married Elizabeth Ray in Orange County, NC, witnessed by James Thomas. Ricki

I just found the given name of my J.J. Thomas that I have been researching for some time. Does anyone have information on Jacob J. Thomas, born between 1830-1840 who married Manerva Byars (1835-1898) from Blount Co.Al. They had at least two children, Margaret b. 1856 Alabama and Melissa b. 1861 in Ala. Jacob enlisted in the 1st Tenn. Volunteers CSA and died in the Civil War. Manerva is found in 1880 in Blount Co. Al. and bought land in the late 1880 in Montgomery/Garland Co. Ark. She died in 1898 Arkansas. She was raising her nephews in the 1880 census named Hunter Nelson and Donald Freeman. Hunter is died in 1949 and is buried near Manerva in Ark. ANY INFORMATION ON ANY OF THESE PEOPLE OR INFORMATION ON WHERE TO FIND A ROSTER FOR THE 1ST TENN. VOLUNTEERS maybe Maney's Infantry Co. Suit@micron.net

Patricia, After looking in "Clans & Tartans Of Scotland" by Robert Bain, I found that the Thomas surname is associated with the Campbell Clan. Good Hunting Joe Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: PATRICIA S. SMITH <PatriciaSmith1@compuserve.com> To: <THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Scots-Irish Thomases? > Very good suggestion abt. Scotland. I'd never even thought abt it. I will > check it out. > > pat smith > > > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > Your contributions to RootsWeb helps make THOMAS-L possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

My ancestors declared the family came from Wales but was Welsh, Scots-Irish, and English. However, I have not been able to locate any Scots-Irish, other than a marriage of one of the brothers to "An Irish Girl". The family originally came from Europe to Pennsylvania (which was later Virginia). The ancestry goes: John Thomas b ca 1740 Loudoun Co., VA Joseph Thomas b 1765 Loudoun Co., VA m Elizabeth Unknown; 3 sons James V. Thomas, Sr. b 1801 Loudoun Co., VA m Hannah Griever of Washington Co./Smyth Co., VA (probably German); 10 children James V. Thomas, Jr. b 1831 Lee Co., VA m Susannah Rouse of Washington Co., VA (Pennsylvanian Dutch) James Mack Thomas b 1855 Perry Co., KY m Ellen Richards of England Anybody out there connected to this family? I have a lot of information to share. Pat

Here's my reply to the original message. I'm fairly confidant that my Thomas family was very English/Welsh in origins; but the family married the Scotts Irish neighbors in SW Va. I have also believed my Thomas family to be Welsh, but not much to go on. My branch settled in Maryland in the late 1600's at Lord Baltimore's catholic colony. They then migrated down the Valley of Virginia in the late 1700's and ended up in the Bristol, Va./ Washington County area where they married into the Hamilton, Cox, Bell, and Hawkins families -- now that's a Scotts Irish connection. So, maybe you'll find the Scotts Irish in the marriages.

Very good suggestion abt. Scotland. I'd never even thought abt it. I will check it out. pat smith

Although Thomas is mostly of Welsh origin, the Thomas surname is also a popular name found in Scotland and Germany. The Thomas surname is a recognized Sept of both the Campbell and MacTavish clans. The term Scots-Irish refers to Scots who migrated to Ireland and then to America. So a Scots-Irish person is actually descends from people who were Scots who traveled through and resided in Ireland before reaching America. Sometimes the family may have resided in America for more than one generation before coming to America however. When trying to find the surname in Scotland try looking on the internet under clan Campbell for information. You may have more luck. I have links on my website that may be of interest to you. Happy hunting! TTFN, Lynda (THOMAS) CAMPBELL <mailto:hilanders@jps.net> Lynda's Genealogy Homepage http://www.jps.net/hilanders  ...And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the heart of the children to their fathers... Malachi 4:6   > -----Original Message----- > From: PATRICIA S. SMITH [mailto:PatriciaSmith1@compuserve.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:14 AM > To: THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Scots-Irish Thomases? > > > That's interesting. I too was always told my Thomas family was Scots > Irish, but a book on the Scots Irish that I bought did not list > the name. > I was in Wales a couple of years ago and there were tons of Thomases. > When I mentioned my Scotch Irish Thomases, everyone said,"Can't be." > > My family was in New England. Fisher Hartson b. abt. 1803 supposedly in > Vt. Can't get beyond him. And they went on to Wisconsin and Iowa. So > it's not just a Southern tale. > > Thoughts on this Scots-Irish story? > > pat smith > . > > > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > THOMAS Family Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: THOMAS > >

That's interesting. I too was always told my Thomas family was Scots Irish, but a book on the Scots Irish that I bought did not list the name. I was in Wales a couple of years ago and there were tons of Thomases. When I mentioned my Scotch Irish Thomases, everyone said,"Can't be." My family was in New England. Fisher Hartson b. abt. 1803 supposedly in Vt. Can't get beyond him. And they went on to Wisconsin and Iowa. So it's not just a Southern tale. Thoughts on this Scots-Irish story? pat smith .

I always believed my Thomas family to be of Scots-Irish descent, because that's what my Dad told me. Recent research seems to point in another direction and I am told that most Thomases are of Welsh descent. Are there any Scots-Irish Thomases out there? My brick wall is James M. Thomas, b. 1818 NC. He was in MS by 1839 when he married Nancy Townsend. I know they were in GA for a while, and in AL even longer before coming to MS, probably Coosa County area. Because of children's names, ages, places of birth, etc. I am looking at William Thomas of 1850 Coosa County census (married to Elizabeth "Betsy" Ray in GA in 1836) as possible father of James M. Is this familiar to anyone? rprewitt@telapex.com

I'm planning on visiting in Spencer Co., Indiana, on Friday/Saturday. Can anyone tell me what research facility may be open and recommend a motel or bed and breakfast? Gladys Eichelberger

Looking for the parents of Reason Thomas b. June 4, 1826 in KY. d. July 20, 1863. Buried in Fleming County, KY. Married Miriam Day b. 1828. Their children: William b. 1849 Serdilia b. 1857 Isadora b. 1858 Con E. b. 1859 Bill Mason

To the people searching these two names. I strongly suggest you check records in Lewis/Mason Counties in NE Kentucky. (Mason was the parent county for Lewis which was created in about 1802) There were several THOMAS families in that area. One George THOMAS, born 1771, son of Michael THOMAS of Germanna Colony in Va. I don't have the names of all of George's children, but it makes sense that he would also have a son named George. And the age of the George you are seeing would fit. As for William Isaac THOMAS, both of those names were brothers of the George THOMAS I mentioned in above paragraph. Check all the records in these two counties and also check Carter County which is right next door and was once part of Mason Co. Ky. Knowing the parent counties of this area is essential since there were many divisions and split offs of various counties. The area was under a wild variety of county names from Kentucky Co, to Ohio County, to Fayette County, to Mason Co, etc. Sue

Hi---Still looking for a connection for Wm W. Thomas born 1857 in Bristol England. His marriage certificate in Lewistown IL, 1879, lists his parents as Amos Henry THOMAS Rachael Elizabeth PROSSER I do not have any siblings or other family for William. I do not know when he cane to the US, but he filed papers of intent to naturalize in 1888 and received his papers in 1895. According to an article I just read in Ancestry, if a child came to the US before the age of 21, it was not necessary to go through this process. If a child came with family, and the father naturalized, the wife and children were automatically citizens. This leads me to think it is possible that William did not come until shortly before his marriage. Or, his father never naturalized. The only other piece of information I have is that some in the family seem to recall that William had a sister named Hannah who married William's wifes brother--Bill Jones. I know this is little to go on, but can anyone recognize this man or point me in a direction???? Thanks for any help! Debbie abudebbie@aol.com