Seeking info on Jane Thomas born before 1825 in Rome Ind.,which was in Perry County. It has been handed down through our family that Jane was part Cherokee Indian. I have seen a portrait of her done in charcoal and she was definably Indian. She married Aaron Rollins Miller in July of 1846 at Meade county,Ky.They had ten children all boys.Jane died on 5 Mar 1901 at Paynesville,Ky. I have alot of information on Jane's husband and their children but very little on Jane herself. I have looked at records of Perry County but cant find anything on her. I have sent letters to different Native Americans groups in search of any Thomas as being listed but im still waiting for reply's.Any help with Jane Thomas would be most welcomed! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 6/5/03

I am searching for any scrap of information on Joseph THOMAS, born about 1831, Connecticut. The 1850 census shows a Joseph THOMAS, age 19, at N. Stonington, New London Co, Ct. This may be him but I have no other evidence. Joseph next shows up in Woodbine Twp, Jo Daviess Co, Illinois, married to Elmira BROWN, at least by 1856. They had a child, Mary Louisa THOMAS born in 1856. Two more children were born at that location, Melvina THOMAS, 1860, and Josephine Eveline THOMAS, 1862. In 1865 the family left for California by wagon train. Joseph died on the trail, the rest of the family continued on to California. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Beverly [email protected]

I am looking for additional information pertaining to my gr gr grandfather and especially his son, L. T. Thomas my gr grandfather. The infomation shown has not all been proven..Would love to share what I have including photos of L.T. Thomas and family. 1 Elihu Thomas Husband: November 20, 1825 Born: Spartanburg County, South Carolina in: December 12, 1891 Died: Thomas Thomas Father: Cassandra Floyd Mother: Malisa Caroline Hobby Wife: May 05, 1824 Born: South Carolina in: June 04, 1896 Died: CHILDREN 1 James Thomas Name: 1848 Born: Spartanburg County, South Carolina in: Married: Orley ? Spouse: M 2 Amanda Thomas Name: 1857 Born: Spartanburg County, South Carolina in: Married: James P. Call Spouse: F 3 Rebecca Thomas Name: 1859 Born: Spartanburg County, South Carolina in: Married: Will Crutchfield Spouse: F 4 George Simpson Thomas Name: January 27, 1862 Born: Spartanburg County, South Carolina in: April 09, 1933 Died: Married: Willie Ida Grier Spouse: M 5 Willie Ida Thomas Name: July 21, 1867 Born: March 26, 1942 Died: Married: George Greer Spouse: F 6 L. Thomas Thomas Name: June 28, 1871 Born: Jordan's Stone Triune,Williamson County, Tennessee in: March 01, 1953 Died: Waldron, Scott County,Arkansas in: November 02, 1893 Married: in: Scott County, Arkansas Della Walker Spouse: M 7 Samuel Thomas Name: September 20, 1877 Born: Spartanburg County, South Carolina in: August 1966 Died: Camden, Ouachita,Arkansas in: M 8 Robert Thomas Name: February 28, 1879 Born: October 1964 Died: Arkansas in: Married: Elizabeth Call Spouse: M Prepared By: Marilyn Thomas Hawley 8491 NW 10th Street Pembroke Pines, FL 33024

THOMAS genealogy is the subject of this board. Our goal is to find our ancestors. Let's make it happen. ROOTSWEB permits us to use their website for FREE to hit World Connect and to post email queries on our family name board. The only cost we endure is in following simple guidelines against posting undesirable content, regardless of reason, and against being rude, crude and socially unacceptable. July 4th is just around the corner. In THOMAS families, Independence Day bears special significance in the fact that we lost family during the Revolutionary War. Be proud of the THOMAS name; we have served our country whether it was Wales, Scotland, England or the USA. Because of this service, we are free today to exercise our freedom of choice. Enjoy your freedom of choice ... exercise it well ... and here's to a successful search for your ancestors. Sam Thomas - THOMAS list admin @ROOTSWEB.

**** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL **** As list administrator, I totally agree ... enough is enough! In my three years as administrator, I have never been forced to use the moderation feature. But, now the list is set to moderated. We are all THOMAS cousins ... yet I have been forced to take this action ... and I really hate having to do this. Accordingly, you will receive this email, but will not be able to post to the message board. The board will remain "off-line" until this email clears the queue. Now here are the rules for posting to this website: 1. POST only material on this board related to THOMAS genealogy and your research. 2. Anyone posting ANYTHING else will be permanently banned from access. 3. If you wish to take exception [i.e.: "torch"] to something posted by another member ... take the squabble elsewhere, by directing your email to that individual only. 4. Squabblers will be banned. 5. Anyone who replies to this email will be banned immediately! NOW ... with that made clear ... let's get back to our family genealogy! I apologize for the inconvenience to those of you who are sincere researchers. The lady that submitted the disruptive email knows not to do it again. Sam Thomas, THOMAS-LIST Administrator **** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ****

**** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL **** As list administrator, I totally agree ... enough is enough! In my three years as administrator, I have never been forced to use the moderation feature. But, now the list is set to moderated. We are all THOMAS cousins ... yet I have been forced to take this action ... and I really hate having to do this. Accordingly, you will receive this email, but will not be able to post to the message board. The board will remain "off-line" until this email clears the queue. Now here are the rules for posting to this website: 1. POST only material on this board related to THOMAS genealogy and your research. 2. Anyone posting ANYTHING else will be permanently banned from access. 3. If you wish to take exception [i.e.: "torch"] to something posted by another member ... take the squabble elsewhere, by directing your email to that individual only. 4. Squabblers will be banned. 5. Anyone who replies to this email will be banned immediately! NOW ... with that made clear ... let's get back to our family genealogy! I apologize for the inconvenience to those of you who are sincere researchers. The lady that submitted the disruptive email knows not to do it again. Sam Thomas, THOMAS-LIST Administrator **** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ****

**** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL **** As list administrator, I totally agree ... enough is enough! In my three years as administrator, I have never been forced to use the moderation feature. But, now the list is set to moderated. We are all THOMAS cousins ... yet I have been forced to take this action ... and I really hate having to do this. Accordingly, you will receive this email, but will not be able to post to the message board. The board will remain "off-line" until this email clears the queue. Now here are the rules for posting to this website: 1. POST only material on this board related to THOMAS genealogy and your research. 2. Anyone posting ANYTHING else will be permanently banned from access. 3. If you wish to take exception [i.e.: "torch"] to something posted by another member ... take the squabble elsewhere, by directing your email to that individual only. 4. Squabblers will be banned. 5. Anyone who replies to this email will be banned immediately! NOW ... with that made clear ... let's get back to our family genealogy! I apologize for the inconvenience to those of you who are sincere researchers. The lady that submitted the disruptive email knows not to do it again. Sam Thomas, THOMAS-LIST Administrator **** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ****

I'm a member of the convict mailing list. The amount of mail because of personal and list response errors is amazing. People you need to remember a lot of people aren't proficient on computers. They muddle along. Leave Crystal alone she made a mistake so what? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crystal P" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: [THOMAS] Finally a man's chain letter > Finally, a man's chain letter! This chain letter was started in hopes of bringing relief to other tired and discouraged men. Unlike most chain letters, this one doesn't cost anything! > > > Just send a copy of this letter to five of your friends who are equally tired and discontented. Then bundle up your wife and/or girlfriend and send her to the man whose name appears at the top of the following list, and add your name to the bottom of the list. > > > When your turn comes, you will receive 15,625 women. > > One of them is bound to be better than the one you already have. > > > At the writing of this letter, a friend of mine has already received > 184 women, of whom four were worth keeping. > > REMEMBER this chain brings luck. > > One man's pit bull died, and the next day he received a Playboy > playmate. An unmarried Jewish man living with his widowed mother was able to choose between a Hooter's waitress and a Hollywood super model. > > You can be lucky too, but DO NOT BREAK THE CHAIN! > > One man broke the chain and got his wife back again. > > > Let's keep it going, men! Just add your name to the bottom of the list below ! > > > Bill Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > Billy Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > Billie Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > B. Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > William Jefferson Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > W. Jefferson Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > W. Jeff Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > W. J. Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > W. Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > William J Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > Wilhelm Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > Willie Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > Will Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > Mr. Hillary Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > Mr. Slick Willie Clinton > 780 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017 > > > > > > > > > Researching these Surnames: MAYFIELD; POLLOCK; HIGHTOWER; WILDER; MUNCY; MCADOO; THOMAS; SEXTON; NICKODAM; MAUDLIN; SIMPSON; BECKNER; MCBRIDE; VAN HOUTAN; HOWERTON; CLINKINGBEARD: GO SOONERS! > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Are true Welsh people rude, too? Marta J

She made a mistake... Everybody does... And, I have noticed this doesn't happen to often... I could see you people getting upset with her if she had done it over and over again, but she didn't. Sheesh!!!!!!!! Get over it ~ already!!!!!!!! Marta Hudson & my ancestral family names: Thomas, Craun, Glick, Landes, Landis, Fifer & Shank & my husband's ancestral family names: Hudson, Woodall & Plaster

I wanted to post the previous information on Rhys ap Thomas before I am removed from the Thomas list. As a Welshwoman I am unrepentant for posting my opinions on sexist "humor." Welshmen and Welshwomen have traditionally stood for their principles. No true person of Welsh descent wishes that someone who has an opposing viewpoint to be silenced. On the other hand, Welsh people will protest whatever they consider to be demeaning, defaming or patronizing because it is the heritage of those who descend from the proud people of Wales -- women and men -- to freely state their opinions. Someone may have pushed the wrong button, but I find it interesting that it was the men of the list who got *their* knickers in a twist and produced the most responses to my post. Judith Thomas Voran

I have seen various hypotheses that Rhys ap Thomas might have been the grandfather of Tristram Thomas of St. Nicolas Parish, Alfold, Surry England in about 1558. I ordered the following book on Interlibrary Loan to check this hypothesis: Ralph A Griffiths, Sir Rhys ap Thomas and his Family : a Study in the Wars of the Roses and Early Tudor Politics. Cardiff, University of Wales Press, 1993. Pp. 268-270. I found the following information which suggests to me a couple of things: There is no documented evidence of a Nicolas Thomas, son of Rhys ap Thomas who could have been the father of Tristram Thomas, rector of the above parish. It appears that the descendents of Rhys ap Thomas later used the surname Rice -- which is logical, given the naming patterns of the time. Therefore, it is my conclusion that Rhys ap Thomas could not have been the ancestor of Tristram Thomas, appointed rector of St. Nicolas Church, Alford Parish, Kent, England 1558 by Bishop White. His first wife was Eva, daughter and co-heiress of Henrie ap Gwillim, of Cort Henrie, by which marriage his estates were considerablie increase, and the long subsisteinge feudes betweene the twoe families weare, att lengthe, hapilie extinguished. The fruite of this union was one sonne, Sir Griffith Rice, whose birth his mother survyved nott longe. To his second wife he matcht with Jonett, daughter of Thomas Mathewes, of an auntiente house in Glamorganshire, by whome he left noe issue. Butt the children he had by different concubynes weare verie numerouse for of hum itt maie be saide, that, in his younger dayes, under the standarde of Venus as well as thatt of Mars, “militavit non sine gloria” [he fought not without glory], and in the servyce of bothe, with him, it was butt ‘veni, vidi, vici.’ And, as most of his illegitimate offspring were matcht to, or became the founders of, house of prime note in Southe Wales, and weare richlie endowed, itt may not altogether be superfluouse or foraigne to our purpose to enumerate as many as weare publicklie acknowledged by their father, and maintayned with suitable respecte. By Gwenllian, sister to his counsellor and confidentiall secretarie, whoe, as well as her brother, might be styled e secretis consiliis [of secret councils]; he had issue Margarett, Ellen the elder, Ellen the younger, Margarett the younger, Mawd, William, David the elder, David the younger, Thomas and Phillip. By elizabeth Mortimer, one daughter, Jane. By Jennett, daughter of Meredydd Vychan of Talley, he had Gwenllian. By Alice Kyffin, of Montgomerieshire (for he mighte well saye, Quae regio in terris nostri non plena laboris [which region of the earth is not full of our toil?] a daughter who died yonge. And, lastlie, by a daughter of Howell ap Jenkin, of Ynisymangwyn in Merionethshire, Anne, whome itt is sayde her father notyced above the rest, and had brought up under his owne eie, matcheinge her into one of the first families of Pembrokeshire…… Son – Gruffyd ap Rhys died between July and Oct 1521 – without issue Grandson – Rhys ap Gruffyd executed 4 Dec. 1531 His son Gruffyd Rice took the family surname of Rice Henry Rice – 1590-1651 wrote the Life and Objections to the alleged treason of Rhys ap Gruffyd first published in the inaugural volume of The Cambrian Registerin 1796. p. 135, Ralph A Griffiths, Sir Rhys ap Thomas and his Family : a Study in the Wars of the Roses and Early Tudor Politics. Cardiff, University of Wales Press, 1993. Pp. 268-270. Judy Voran Strawberry, AZ

wELL, WELL,WELL ! ! I have looked in absolute amazement at the time and effort that has gone into chastising this person. He/she asks the question if some of us haven't accidentally sent something to a "LIST" instead of their individual email list . WELL---I did. It concerned a virus----that was real- and I got some of the most hateful, vindictive, ugly e-mails that anyone could have gotten. You must understand that I felt that is they didn't want to read it they could exercise DELETE. I had a LOT of information that I could have shared with several of the people. I had made a break through. I got the direct e-mail address' of those I wished to stay in touch with and quit the list. This had gone on for days. I felt battered and misused for an honest mistake that I had immediately apologized for but it made no difference. Can't everyone please accept the apology sent with the explanation of what happened and lets use our time for the task of finding our ancestors. I'll bet they'd get a laugh about this. I have but I'm sure the poor person that made the mistake feels 'bruised and battered' right now. Forget it. I've taken up too much research space already. C. Loyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Allen <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [THOMAS] Misuse of Thomas > FINALLY A MAN'S CHAIN LETTER isn't a real chain letter. It's a joke. It's humor. > It would be more appropriate on a humor mailing list (I subscribe to GenHumor, a > RootsWeb mailing list). But why has a sense of outrage replaced the sense of humor? > > Bill Allen <[email protected]> > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Chain letters are illegal so what is this doing in my mail??? This is not > > the first--anymore and I will be forced to unsubscribe from a program I really > > enjoy. > > > > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > THOMAS Family Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: THOMAS > >

While we're on Pennsylvania Thomases... Does anyone's tree include anyone who might be George Calder Thomas, allegedly born somewhere in Pennsylvania in 1811, to Elizabeth and possibly William H. Thomas? (or William could be a brother... could these people HAVE any more common names?) The family appears to have moved to Onandaga Township, Brant County, Ontario probably sometime before 1839. I have no idea what their ethnic background was, or why they moved. Thank you! Kristi Thomas Murdock

FINALLY A MAN'S CHAIN LETTER isn't a real chain letter. It's a joke. It's humor. It would be more appropriate on a humor mailing list (I subscribe to GenHumor, a RootsWeb mailing list). But why has a sense of outrage replaced the sense of humor? Bill Allen <[email protected]> [email protected] wrote: > Chain letters are illegal so what is this doing in my mail??? This is not > the first--anymore and I will be forced to unsubscribe from a program I really > enjoy.

In a message dated 6/5/03 1:20:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I think people are unforgiving because the "joke" was so sexist. I > personally found it offensive and I am tired of being forgiving for > tired sexist men who need other outlets and interests. If broadcasting > this type of material to an audience that has not previously indicated > a desire to receive it -- go get another life. > > Judy Voran > Strawberry, AZ > On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 08:41 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > >In a message dated 6/5/03 11:34:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > >>Why does it seem so many people are unforgiving? > > > >I agree! Get over it. If you read it you would have gotten a chuckle. > >I think > >some of us listers need that every now and then, But please don't send > >me > >letters about how I'm wrong and shouldn't invite this kind of behavoir > >to the > >list. I don't want to hear it. > >I'm not condoning it. I am only stating that if you took the time to > >read it > >you would have laughed and discarded it. > > > Sam, Could you please put a stop to all this garbage mailing over someones simple mistake? I was enjoying reading from the list as it hasnt been this active in a long time. Unfortunetly, there are so many unforgiving listers and final worders that I am deleting what may be important information. Please do something before we lose valuable listers because of one simple mistake made by another. Teri Schneider Winter Park, FL

Whew, it must be all those Welsh Thomas's that have their knickers in a knot. We German Thomas's wouldn't get upset over this, would we <VBG>? Seriously, has anyone gotten past the Peter Thomas/Eva Maria Six deadend in Berks Co. PA? This is still my brick wall. Mark Thomas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

In a message dated 6/5/03 11:34:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Why does it seem so many people are unforgiving? I agree! Get over it. If you read it you would have gotten a chuckle. I think some of us listers need that every now and then, But please don't send me letters about how I'm wrong and shouldn't invite this kind of behavoir to the list. I don't want to hear it. I'm not condoning it. I am only stating that if you took the time to read it you would have laughed and discarded it.

If you can't just laugh or hit the delete key, you need to get a life!! I am tired of everyone being so sensitive!! I am quitting this list and I am ashamed that some of you are my kin!! [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 6/5/03 1:20:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I think people are unforgiving because the "joke" was so sexist. I > > personally found it offensive and I am tired of being forgiving for > > tired sexist men who need other outlets and interests. If broadcasting > > this type of material to an audience that has not previously indicated > > a desire to receive it -- go get another life. > > > > Judy Voran > > Strawberry, AZ > > On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 08:41 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > >In a message dated 6/5/03 11:34:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > >[email protected] writes: > > > > > >>Why does it seem so many people are unforgiving? > > > > > >I agree! Get over it. If you read it you would have gotten a chuckle. > > >I think > > >some of us listers need that every now and then, But please don't send > > >me > > >letters about how I'm wrong and shouldn't invite this kind of behavoir > > >to the > > >list. I don't want to hear it. > > >I'm not condoning it. I am only stating that if you took the time to > > >read it > > >you would have laughed and discarded it. > > > > > > > Sam, > Could you please put a stop to all this garbage mailing over someones simple > mistake? > I was enjoying reading from the list as it hasnt been this active in a long > time. Unfortunetly, there are so many unforgiving listers and final worders > that I am deleting what may be important information. > Please do something before we lose valuable listers because of one simple > mistake made by another. > > Teri Schneider > Winter Park, FL > > ==== THOMAS Mailing List ==== > If you're not already a Rootsweb member, please join with us! > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html -- The best thing to give to your enemy is forgiveness; to an opponent, tolerance; to a friend, your heart; to your child, a good example; to a father, deference; to your mother, conduct that will make her proud of you; to yourself, respect; to all men, charity. MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA http://home.pacbell.net/wthomas1/ Wayne Thomas <>< In the Heart of the Wine Country Sonoma County, California

It is a mass-mailed thing to addresses harvested from the Internet. It may even be a form to send a virus or worm piggybacked on the original. Secondly, I never got the original letter from the THOMAS list, so it may be something that was sent to the original person masquerading as coming from the list, but it didn't. Don't worry about it...just delete it. It's not like this happens multiple times every day. Mark Thomas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com